If anyone doubts VKM ruined wrestling, I always say look at the gates. Except for Wrestlemania, they have been consistently down ever since Vince killed the NWA. Now they are even further in the toilet, The WWE can barely run an area once a year and manage a sellout crowd, when there were territories that used to sell out these areas on a weekly basis. The WWE business was built on PPV and TV, but it even looks like that is collapsing now because wrestling has been dying for the last 25 years.
These guys need to realise that the Attitude Era ruined the old wrestling style. These days most of the time theirs a good match on TV the crowd chant "Boring"
I was a lifelong wrestling fan and even heavily considered being professionally trained, but then Vince bought WCW and ECW and killed off wrestling in one angle: The Invasion. Watching the old tapes and WWE Vintage makes me wonder WTF was he thinking?
OK GUYS BUT,,,TNA IS DIFFERENT I MEAN THE GUYS WRIGHT THERE ARENT SO COCKY AND DONT TALK THAT MUCH LIKE IN WWE SCHOWS.THERE ARE A LOT OF FIGHTS AND REAL WRESTLING.TNA IS GREAT TO WATCH ITS SO EXITED
@JacksonXxXWaWa TNA is worse than wwe. TNA aint nothing but talk, very bad acting, boring storylines and old names (why haven't they been pushing styles properly? why did they dress daniels up as some dancing ninja? did they really ruin jay lethal and call him macho negro/black machismo? why do they give every big wwe guy that comes in the world belt? everything they've done since 2005 was horrible and NOW they decide hogan & bischoff would be a good idea? can someone say WCW JR)
extreme's are always bad. I hated the very early stuff where it was so dull... 15 minute head scissor? no thank you, thats as bad as a 25 minute promo. It was so perfectly balanced in the 90's :D
wwe wrestling today most matches is acting and are scripted...and yes most of is talking..but we have real blood..some real moves..and some real pain..and we have excitement..it not bad...No 1 wrestling is wwf(when we used to have The Texas rattle snake stone cold Steve Austin..the great one the rock..bill Goldberg..old masked big red monster Kane...old undertaker...and much)..
I agree 150% with the opinions in this video. The WWE is a waste of time if what you're interested in is wrestling matches. Fortunately, we have the Internet, DVDs, etc. that allow even the smallest federations and their wrestlers to have global exposure. Vince McMoney can't control that. Let the WWE run its course. One day it will be gone and we will continue to enjoy the federations that focus on the matches, not the hype.
@coconutsavage, thank god wsx showed the younger independent talent, everyone on the wsx roster brought me back to wrestling. This time it wasn't something i could watch once a week though, i had to find internet videos, but hey, thank god wsx got a month to show the lesser known talent, cuz that is what got me watching wrestling again
They had toys making fun of Edge, Kurt Angle, Rob Van Dam, etc. I agree that it is mostly talk and angles now, but these guys I just named can wrestle and are some of the best in the world.
Yes folks! You got that right. It IS corporate ass kissing at the conclusion of this video. These wrestling fans/wrestlers' comments reflect what I have been saying since 1985. I hate the WWF/WWE! I hate Vince McMahon and how he incorporated pro wrestling. That is how his shows are like. More talk than action. I seriously would like to see the independent scene bring back the image of what pro wrestling was really like. Bring back old school, kill off sports entertainment.
vince mcmahon company was al about wrestling bak when it was wwf a wrestling frederation now it is all about celebrity storylines when wwf changed to wwe it started to lose crediblity there were more matches on raw or smackdown back when wwe was wwf then now it is sad it is like i'm watching my girlfriend's soap as the world turns pathetic!
Finally people are starting to see the truth Ive known all along. Current WWE stuff is crap! It almost makes me ashamed to be a fan but I learned to put Sports Entertainment apart from professional wrestling. Vince is a greedy selfish jackoff who owuldnt know what good wrestling was, if it smashed him in the yap.
I think we're barking the wrong three in wanting for McMahon to change his program into wrestling. But I would like for guys that are second or third in the upper echelon to try returning back to when wrestling was wrestling.
Exactly this, WWE already has an empire of a certain type of "wrestling". Telling them to change is pointless, it is a shame that Vince is trying to make a monopoly of this activity, trying to buy every good wrestler of any other promotion.
Yeah, I like it better when they just wrestle instead of all that drama like, your my son or you don't win your fired thing. They need to just WRESTLE!!!
That is sooooo true... The 2 hour wrestling shows are about 20 mins. of actual wrestling.. the rest is COMMERCIALS and BULLSHIT!!!! The only way to watch it is by taping it then it takes about 20 mins. to watch the entire show...
If anyone doubts VKM ruined wrestling, I always say look at the gates. Except for Wrestlemania, they have been consistently down ever since Vince killed the NWA. Now they are even further in the toilet, The WWE can barely run an area once a year and manage a sellout crowd, when there were territories that used to sell out these areas on a weekly basis. The WWE business was built on PPV and TV, but it even looks like that is collapsing now because wrestling has been dying for the last 25 years.
TNAROHfan 1 month ago
These guys need to realise that the Attitude Era ruined the old wrestling style. These days most of the time theirs a good match on TV the crowd chant "Boring"
1995lukeya 4 months ago
wrestling holds are the easy thing to do. Talking and high flying are the hard things to do.
TheGrowDude 5 months ago in playlist Shoot Central 1
I was a lifelong wrestling fan and even heavily considered being professionally trained, but then Vince bought WCW and ECW and killed off wrestling in one angle: The Invasion. Watching the old tapes and WWE Vintage makes me wonder WTF was he thinking?
welcomehome901 8 months ago
i want ecw 2000 and paul heyman
NODguy 10 months ago
Old School until 1994. All after that is bullshit! Greats from germany. Bring back the good old times! we want gimmicks and matches!
MrSmokingChannel 11 months ago
ROH is better becus it has more wrestling
ahhcrap101 11 months ago
you put a head scissors on a guy for 15 minutes during a match, I dare ya bud
less than a minute, the crowd will be chanting "BORING"
don't get me wrong, I like the old school wrestling, but like everything else, things change.
zredoyle 1 year ago
OK GUYS BUT,,,TNA IS DIFFERENT I MEAN THE GUYS WRIGHT THERE ARENT SO COCKY AND DONT TALK THAT MUCH LIKE IN WWE SCHOWS.THERE ARE A LOT OF FIGHTS AND REAL WRESTLING.TNA IS GREAT TO WATCH ITS SO EXITED
JacksonXxXWaWa 1 year ago
@JacksonXxXWaWa TNA is worse than wwe. TNA aint nothing but talk, very bad acting, boring storylines and old names (why haven't they been pushing styles properly? why did they dress daniels up as some dancing ninja? did they really ruin jay lethal and call him macho negro/black machismo? why do they give every big wwe guy that comes in the world belt? everything they've done since 2005 was horrible and NOW they decide hogan & bischoff would be a good idea? can someone say WCW JR)
cashcrazywhiteboy 10 months ago
extreme's are always bad. I hated the very early stuff where it was so dull... 15 minute head scissor? no thank you, thats as bad as a 25 minute promo. It was so perfectly balanced in the 90's :D
gengarjetty 1 year ago
I agree with mist if this. But not the high flying part, different styles, especially the high flying type styles are great.
sscodebreaker 1 year ago
wwe wrestling today most matches is acting and are scripted...and yes most of is talking..but we have real blood..some real moves..and some real pain..and we have excitement..it not bad...No 1 wrestling is wwf(when we used to have The Texas rattle snake stone cold Steve Austin..the great one the rock..bill Goldberg..old masked big red monster Kane...old undertaker...and much)..
TheStone97cold 1 year ago
I agree 150% with the opinions in this video. The WWE is a waste of time if what you're interested in is wrestling matches. Fortunately, we have the Internet, DVDs, etc. that allow even the smallest federations and their wrestlers to have global exposure. Vince McMoney can't control that. Let the WWE run its course. One day it will be gone and we will continue to enjoy the federations that focus on the matches, not the hype.
coconutsavage 1 year ago
@coconutsavage, thank god wsx showed the younger independent talent, everyone on the wsx roster brought me back to wrestling. This time it wasn't something i could watch once a week though, i had to find internet videos, but hey, thank god wsx got a month to show the lesser known talent, cuz that is what got me watching wrestling again
rayrayALA 1 year ago
Up until 80's Wrestling was its BEST.
CadillacL 1 year ago
They had toys making fun of Edge, Kurt Angle, Rob Van Dam, etc. I agree that it is mostly talk and angles now, but these guys I just named can wrestle and are some of the best in the world.
saiyanblade84 1 year ago 7
Yes folks! You got that right. It IS corporate ass kissing at the conclusion of this video. These wrestling fans/wrestlers' comments reflect what I have been saying since 1985. I hate the WWF/WWE! I hate Vince McMahon and how he incorporated pro wrestling. That is how his shows are like. More talk than action. I seriously would like to see the independent scene bring back the image of what pro wrestling was really like. Bring back old school, kill off sports entertainment.
Lurvy1963 1 year ago
vince mcmahon company was al about wrestling bak when it was wwf a wrestling frederation now it is all about celebrity storylines when wwf changed to wwe it started to lose crediblity there were more matches on raw or smackdown back when wwe was wwf then now it is sad it is like i'm watching my girlfriend's soap as the world turns pathetic!
MrDivalover1 2 years ago
Linda McMahon was deeply involved in ruining pro wrestling too. She's actually is running for the Senate in CT.
wrestle1965 2 years ago
to only good wrestling is from mexico, and i don't speak spanish sad ain't it
cappsoutlaw 2 years ago
WWE has as much wrestling in it now as MTV has music videos
ViperRob42 2 years ago 17
Finally people are starting to see the truth Ive known all along. Current WWE stuff is crap! It almost makes me ashamed to be a fan but I learned to put Sports Entertainment apart from professional wrestling. Vince is a greedy selfish jackoff who owuldnt know what good wrestling was, if it smashed him in the yap.
RICFAN1 2 years ago
This is very true, though honestly Vince McMahon is not going to listen.
Ashkihyena 2 years ago
I think we're barking the wrong three in wanting for McMahon to change his program into wrestling. But I would like for guys that are second or third in the upper echelon to try returning back to when wrestling was wrestling.
skinwalkerxxx 2 years ago
Exactly this, WWE already has an empire of a certain type of "wrestling". Telling them to change is pointless, it is a shame that Vince is trying to make a monopoly of this activity, trying to buy every good wrestler of any other promotion.
ChevalierAguila 2 years ago
Yeah, I like it better when they just wrestle instead of all that drama like, your my son or you don't win your fired thing. They need to just WRESTLE!!!
Darkflame215 2 years ago
That is sooooo true... The 2 hour wrestling shows are about 20 mins. of actual wrestling.. the rest is COMMERCIALS and BULLSHIT!!!! The only way to watch it is by taping it then it takes about 20 mins. to watch the entire show...
Richfromfl 2 years ago