Now SHE is a LEGEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 24....no groin owie.........no excuse after excuse......no breaks....earned marks......no propping up......no favortism so blatant it reeks and totally insults skating fans.........and then off to Worlds...24 years old....incredible and a true champion and again a true geniune legend. I wonder if she skated back in the day when amatuers couldn't rake in the bucks and were purists!!
@markbob120 Now SHE is a LEGEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 24....no groin owie.........no excuse after excuse......no breaks....earned marks......no propping up......no favortism so blatant it reeks and totally insults skating fans.........and then off to Worlds...24 years old....incredible and a true champion and again a true geniune legend. I wonder if she skated back in the day when amatuers couldn't rake in the bucks and were purists!!
What is UP with the vicious attack on Tonia? And me?
This was a very nice performance. What comes to mind: I miss Dick & Peggy's commentating, and I miss the 6.0 system, despite its faults. The skaters of today are just not as interesting either.
I am stunned some of you think Kwiatkowski deserved to beat Kwan. Kwan probably skated an even better performance than she did to win Worlds considering she did the triple toe-triple toe. Tonia skated well but has no triple-triple, no triple salchow, and a few of her landings were off or two footed. The only time Tonia didnt beat Kwan when she deserved to was the 95 Nationals the year before. I agree she deserved to place way higher than 8th at Worlds though.
loved this program. she did two-foot a few of her jumps. it's hard to tell with the iffy qualify of this vid, but i taped this program and watched it many times, including the jumps in slow motion. her feet are so close together in the air, it's almost impossible to see, but the toe pick of the free leg taps just slightly before it swings around. one of her cleanest jumps was the loop. i'd never seen her land it successfully before, and she was obviously thrilled!
acuison1, correct, it's obvious which music is good music and bad,and why on earth people would choose bad music! However, this music to this program is not that bad. It has hooks, is flowing to the ear and the cuts work and flow. It's not the best, but it's fine. There are so many bad examples of bad tacky music in programs out there, and bad edits/cuts that don't work.
I don't get why some skaters perform to such music. I mean most of the time you can tell who will win and who would lose by the choices of their music. Seriously?
A great program, delivered well, and nice to watch. 2nd place was the right decision, though, as there was no salchow jump in this program. Kwan did all triples including the salchow.
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I have a lot of respect for Tonia. She was very respectful of her coach and their relationship, of skating, and of her competitors. She's a very classy lady.
However, the program is dated-very late 80s/early 90s style of music, costume, and choreography. Michelle really showed improvement and change-her Salome program was just the beginning. Michelle's camp recognized the need to show a drastic change to the judges and public in order to show her growth. I think that was the difference.
i loved this performance and feel she is to be admired for sticking with it and showing everyone that she could deliver a jam-packed program with elegance.
This was an awesome program. If she could have skated this 5 years earlier, she would have been huge. But everything about this program seems a little bit 1991 -- down to the music. I think she is a great and awfully underrated skater, though. Both of her Worlds performances were Bronze-medal worthy and she was underscored. Don't get me wrong.
Yeah, I agree. I thought she was an awesome athlete, she just couldn't get out of the 1990 cliche! I mean, seriously? John Tesh? hahaha, great skater nontheless!
This program blows me away. Tonia presents this program with so much class. Like Lu Chen's Silver at the 1996 Worlds, I can't stop watching this program repeatedly.
This was a great performance and moment for her but those of you saying she should have won are smoking crack. A silver for Tonia is awesome in an era of Lipinski, Kwan, and Bobek, all generally superior skaters to her, the silver is a dream, just leave it at that. Kwan and Tonia both went to Worlds and skated this well again and Kwan won gold (should have been silver but still officialy gold) while Tonia was only 8th so obviously the judges made the right decision who to give the U.S title.
What I liked about Tonia was how she was so quietly elegant. Very calm, very beautiful, similar to Angela Nikodinov. I think she should have won, this program was underrated, IMO. I love love love the jazzy section. xxx
Michelle was very overrated in 1996. She hadnt yet truly grown into her new look and new style. It should have been treated by the judges as what it really was, a transition year to a truly beautiful and developed skater in 97, not as if she were already this. Also Kwan with sexy and sleak midruff costume for Salome when she had the breastless and flat body of a 7 year old looked ridiculous. It would have been like Tara dressing in that the next year.
Agreed. When she skated Salome, she wasn't seductive at all because her physical development wasn't yet at its peak. She was more like a young teenager being forcibly told to don on an image that was way too mature for her. I'm happy for Tonia though. I have always loved her skating when she was on.
Totally agree! That is why I could never find Kwan's Salome as great as some seemed to. You are right, it was a great moment for Tonia though, so happy for her.
This was such a great moment for her. Has to be one of the happiest sivler medalist ever...I think she should have won. I grow tired of little girls on the ice (and Michelle was still a little girl at this point) I like it when ladies win.
Michelle's program had more polish and her technique was acceptable.
Tonia's program demonstrated superior technique and but with less polish.
The entrance to Tonia's Triple Lutz is technically better than the typical common long edge and Mohawk entrances used today. The outside edge is so much deeper that in that entrance that is almost guaranteed that skater will fall before they flutz.
The entrance to Tonia's Triple Lutz is technically better than the typical common long edge and Mohawk entrances used today. The outside edge is so much deeper than in the long edge entrance that it is almost guaranteed that the skater will fall before they flutz.
did anyone notice that the guy next to Tonia (Glen Watts) sat soo close to Tonia, and that his hand was dangerously close to Tonia's derriere?! I noticed when I watched this live on tv years ago, and I just noticed it again.
I dont know if I agree there, but she certainly impressed the judges still. If you notice her scores were very close to Michelle's and way ahead of all the others. She skated almost this well at Worlds and was so robbed, she should have won the bronze medal at Worlds.
@lambielkwanfan I agree that Tonia was totally robbed when it came to the 1996 Worlds but if you look at the placesments a lot of people was robbed. I kind of disagree with your placements at worlds that year. I would have Tonia in 4th overall. I would have had her 5th in the Short Program and 4th in the Long. So my top 12 placements would have been overall Kwan, Chen, Butyskaya, Kwiatkowski, Slutskaya, Szewczenko, Bonaley, Yokoya, Vorobieva, Ito, Czakó, Lipinski,.
I met Tonia at a charity event here in Cleveland and she was very gracious. When I told her "I really enjoy your skating", she replied "thank you... that is so very kind of you." She is a class act!
Now SHE is a LEGEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 24....no groin owie.........no excuse after excuse......no breaks....earned marks......no propping up......no favortism so blatant it reeks and totally insults skating fans.........and then off to Worlds...24 years old....incredible and a true champion and again a true geniune legend. I wonder if she skated back in the day when amatuers couldn't rake in the bucks and were purists!!
getrealandsee 10 months ago
@getrealandsee You are an idiot. Tonia Kwiatkowski stunk on ice and was a major choke artist! She was a lousy skater and a dirty polock whore!
markbob120 2 months ago
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@markbob120 Now SHE is a LEGEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 24....no groin owie.........no excuse after excuse......no breaks....earned marks......no propping up......no favortism so blatant it reeks and totally insults skating fans.........and then off to Worlds...24 years old....incredible and a true champion and again a true geniune legend. I wonder if she skated back in the day when amatuers couldn't rake in the bucks and were purists!!
What is UP with the vicious attack on Tonia? And me?
getrealandsee 1 month ago
i skated to this music, loved it
Evancho08 10 months ago
This was a very nice performance. What comes to mind: I miss Dick & Peggy's commentating, and I miss the 6.0 system, despite its faults. The skaters of today are just not as interesting either.
psbfan01 1 year ago
I am stunned some of you think Kwiatkowski deserved to beat Kwan. Kwan probably skated an even better performance than she did to win Worlds considering she did the triple toe-triple toe. Tonia skated well but has no triple-triple, no triple salchow, and a few of her landings were off or two footed. The only time Tonia didnt beat Kwan when she deserved to was the 95 Nationals the year before. I agree she deserved to place way higher than 8th at Worlds though.
russianskatingfan 1 year ago 2
@russianskatingfan a triple...a triple triple...Kwan did that?
getrealandsee 10 months ago
Should have been National Champion and World Medalist that year!
skaterdude1962 1 year ago
@skaterdude1962 I agree and skated faster than Michelle
dtw1958 1 year ago
Beautiful program and skater. Tonia was always gracious to all her fans as well.
skaterdude1962 1 year ago
loved this program. she did two-foot a few of her jumps. it's hard to tell with the iffy qualify of this vid, but i taped this program and watched it many times, including the jumps in slow motion. her feet are so close together in the air, it's almost impossible to see, but the toe pick of the free leg taps just slightly before it swings around. one of her cleanest jumps was the loop. i'd never seen her land it successfully before, and she was obviously thrilled!
caseyphx 1 year ago
acuison1, correct, it's obvious which music is good music and bad,and why on earth people would choose bad music! However, this music to this program is not that bad. It has hooks, is flowing to the ear and the cuts work and flow. It's not the best, but it's fine. There are so many bad examples of bad tacky music in programs out there, and bad edits/cuts that don't work.
delayedricochet 2 years ago
Has anyone else noticed her resemblence to Nancy Kerrigan? Appearance and skating style.
dylanvalente 2 years ago
@dylanvalente Minus the buck teeth and bitchy attitude however.
thomstephens 1 year ago
I don't get why some skaters perform to such music. I mean most of the time you can tell who will win and who would lose by the choices of their music. Seriously?
acuison1 2 years ago
hahaha... I saw this live! it was unbelievable!!! (long time ago, but I remember it!) she is such an amazing skater!!
dragonfly0283 3 years ago
LOVE TONIA! I miss this kind of glamorous skating. :(
brunofttt 3 years ago
A great program, delivered well, and nice to watch. 2nd place was the right decision, though, as there was no salchow jump in this program. Kwan did all triples including the salchow.
toonertoon 3 years ago
The Blade Runner score is definitley "80's", but that doesn't negate the fact it's still great music and sends me to analog nirvana everytime
However, John Tesh has already gone the way of Yanni, Melrose Place and the Thighmaster.
gandy74 3 years ago
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aaprato 3 years ago
I have a lot of respect for Tonia. She was very respectful of her coach and their relationship, of skating, and of her competitors. She's a very classy lady.
However, the program is dated-very late 80s/early 90s style of music, costume, and choreography. Michelle really showed improvement and change-her Salome program was just the beginning. Michelle's camp recognized the need to show a drastic change to the judges and public in order to show her growth. I think that was the difference.
MissFit29 3 years ago 2
That plus the triple-triple Michelle did.
ants2876 3 years ago 3
This was such a lovely LP for Tonia. She skated flawlessly.
rickram1961 3 years ago 2
Yes this was probably her best performance ever. She was very lovely and graceful.
mec441 3 years ago
The way she keeps her legs so tight and pointed in the air looks pretty, but it also makes her two-foot the jumps a lot.
Great performance here though, one of her best ever.
uwoeric 3 years ago 2
i loved this performance and feel she is to be admired for sticking with it and showing everyone that she could deliver a jam-packed program with elegance.
thomstephens 3 years ago
This was an awesome program. If she could have skated this 5 years earlier, she would have been huge. But everything about this program seems a little bit 1991 -- down to the music. I think she is a great and awfully underrated skater, though. Both of her Worlds performances were Bronze-medal worthy and she was underscored. Don't get me wrong.
sbe79 3 years ago 3
I agree with all you said.
russianskatingfan 3 years ago
Yeah, I agree. I thought she was an awesome athlete, she just couldn't get out of the 1990 cliche! I mean, seriously? John Tesh? hahaha, great skater nontheless!
ShaefDawg 3 years ago 2
This program blows me away. Tonia presents this program with so much class. Like Lu Chen's Silver at the 1996 Worlds, I can't stop watching this program repeatedly.
Mikelandscaper 3 years ago
a very classy skater that ended a good career on a high note
dolcevitausa 3 years ago
This was a great performance and moment for her but those of you saying she should have won are smoking crack. A silver for Tonia is awesome in an era of Lipinski, Kwan, and Bobek, all generally superior skaters to her, the silver is a dream, just leave it at that. Kwan and Tonia both went to Worlds and skated this well again and Kwan won gold (should have been silver but still officialy gold) while Tonia was only 8th so obviously the judges made the right decision who to give the U.S title.
russianskatingfan 3 years ago 2
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The point in a competition is not who is the best skater, it is who delivers the best program of the night. And that night Tonia did it.
BigA3372 3 years ago
One of my favorite programs ever.
What I liked about Tonia was how she was so quietly elegant. Very calm, very beautiful, similar to Angela Nikodinov. I think she should have won, this program was underrated, IMO. I love love love the jazzy section. xxx
Lilia96 3 years ago 2
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She should've won this. Don't get me wrong, I love Michelle Kwan, but Tonia deserved this. Michelle was just starting to mature.
JMNYC84 4 years ago
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Michelle was very overrated in 1996. She hadnt yet truly grown into her new look and new style. It should have been treated by the judges as what it really was, a transition year to a truly beautiful and developed skater in 97, not as if she were already this. Also Kwan with sexy and sleak midruff costume for Salome when she had the breastless and flat body of a 7 year old looked ridiculous. It would have been like Tara dressing in that the next year.
kristirulesice 3 years ago
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Agreed. When she skated Salome, she wasn't seductive at all because her physical development wasn't yet at its peak. She was more like a young teenager being forcibly told to don on an image that was way too mature for her. I'm happy for Tonia though. I have always loved her skating when she was on.
topjazz69 3 years ago
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Totally agree! That is why I could never find Kwan's Salome as great as some seemed to. You are right, it was a great moment for Tonia though, so happy for her.
kristirulesice 3 years ago
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This was such a great moment for her. Has to be one of the happiest sivler medalist ever...I think she should have won. I grow tired of little girls on the ice (and Michelle was still a little girl at this point) I like it when ladies win.
rfillangi 4 years ago
I so wanted her to win!
anfjustin1981 4 years ago
Tonia is a beautiful skater and the best coach i ever had
iceamc 4 years ago
very very good quality skater
okhan001 4 years ago
I think most important however was that after then marks were displayed Tonia was still absolutely elated.
visceraltuning 4 years ago
This would have been very difficult to judge.
Michelle's program had more polish and her technique was acceptable.
Tonia's program demonstrated superior technique and but with less polish.
The entrance to Tonia's Triple Lutz is technically better than the typical common long edge and Mohawk entrances used today. The outside edge is so much deeper that in that entrance that is almost guaranteed that skater will fall before they flutz.
Pre-1991 Tonia would have won.
visceraltuning 4 years ago
Oops, typos.
The entrance to Tonia's Triple Lutz is technically better than the typical common long edge and Mohawk entrances used today. The outside edge is so much deeper than in the long edge entrance that it is almost guaranteed that the skater will fall before they flutz.
visceraltuning 4 years ago
That's interesting...because Tonia still flutzed and she didn't fall!
kwadruple 4 years ago
You're right, Tonia did flutz!
uwoeric 4 years ago
did anyone notice that the guy next to Tonia (Glen Watts) sat soo close to Tonia, and that his hand was dangerously close to Tonia's derriere?! I noticed when I watched this live on tv years ago, and I just noticed it again.
ShaefDawg 4 years ago
OMG! He is practically patting her fanny isn't he?
mec441 3 years ago
HAHA I'm glad someone else noticed that
Yikes!
ShaefDawg 3 years ago
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Thanks for posting this - I loved this program SO MUCH! And even though I am a Michelle Fan - Tonia should've won this US Title...
belgarion04 4 years ago
I dont know if I agree there, but she certainly impressed the judges still. If you notice her scores were very close to Michelle's and way ahead of all the others. She skated almost this well at Worlds and was so robbed, she should have won the bronze medal at Worlds.
lambielkwanfan 4 years ago 6
@lambielkwanfan I agree that Tonia was totally robbed when it came to the 1996 Worlds but if you look at the placesments a lot of people was robbed. I kind of disagree with your placements at worlds that year. I would have Tonia in 4th overall. I would have had her 5th in the Short Program and 4th in the Long. So my top 12 placements would have been overall Kwan, Chen, Butyskaya, Kwiatkowski, Slutskaya, Szewczenko, Bonaley, Yokoya, Vorobieva, Ito, Czakó, Lipinski,.
slamballmanlita 1 year ago
Love her! One of my all time favorites! :)
raelynne04 4 years ago 2
I met Tonia at a charity event here in Cleveland and she was very gracious. When I told her "I really enjoy your skating", she replied "thank you... that is so very kind of you." She is a class act!
sjkel 4 years ago
I think had she done a triple-triple of some kind, it would be have been closer between her and Michelle.
Though I still think Michelle would have won. :)
Iceman8822 4 years ago 3
Love her!
brunofttt 4 years ago 2
This was as good as a gold medal for her.
diskplaying 4 years ago 4