Could one of you Christians PLEASE help me? As an atheist, I'm afraid that I will be condemned to hell. So, if that does happen to me, then how much is the postage from hell? Do they sell stamps, or should i bring my own? What time does the postman pick up the hellmail? Does everybody get a PO box, or do we share a return address like "c/o Satan, General Delivery"? If I'm burning in eternal hellfire, won't my stationery get scorched? I have so many questions...I do want to be ready.
those who do not belive in God will burn in hell!!!!!! The body that i rule is in the country named Romania...near Bucharest...in the city called Oltenita...his name is Mihail Christian...in romanian language...mihai cristian...today it is 30.01.2009...if somebody contacts me at messenger id : diesel_porno2009 ...an idiot ID...i shall not bring the hell out of my dad's burial grounds...wich is at the North Pole...i have choosed this "movie" because he is partial right... SUMADARTSON DEMON......
Those who do not believe in God, along with those who do will never know the difference. No one knows what lies beyond death. Did you hear that? No one knows. You only have faith and belief.
Of course I watched the video, multiple times. Who told you that the vid was about Christians afraid to share the gospel, your minister? Is this someone else's explanation or your conclusion with no influence? Something important to think about.
You are clearly avoiding the entire premise of the video, which is that a a young man's friend is sending him a letter from Hell and is describing the terrible fear. How can you not address that?
I have been discussing & debating Christianity for many years & saying I didn't understand the video is a bankrupt statement. That is one of many default arguments from Christians that is self defeating. This video was fearmongering as evidence by the depiction of someone being sent to hell and we all have a pretty good image of what Christians see as hell. I believe that the creators did not set out to make it that way, because of the way they perceived the message & the content.
Every human being alive deserves to be sent to hell, even Christians. We are all sinners. Yet, God came to earth as a man to die as the PERFECT sacrifice, so that "all who believe in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life." (John 3:16b).
Quoting scripture is a of the biggest self defeating arguments among Christians. There is no contemporary evidence to prove the bible, let alone that the bible itself has not been clearly substantiated to be histroically accurate.
okay then, what about Isaiah chapter 66, which prophecies that Israel would be reborn as a nation in ONE day. And then, after WWII in I believe 1948, but don't quote me on the date, Israel became a nation in JUST ONE DAY. That's HISTORICAL AND SCRIPTURAL. Then Israel was attacked by pretty much all the surrounding nations THAT DAY before they had any organized army and Israel drove them back and remained a nation.
Sorry man. I lost about a couple minutes there. He basically said that if someone who was a current believer watched the "A Letter From Hell" and became an atheists or questioned their faith, he would want to speak with them right away. Obviously to do some damage control, but the saddest thing to me was he acted like he didn't understand what I was trying to convey. He also basically avoided the questionand never gave me a direct answer. I expected as much.
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1 Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
My desire was to identify whether or not this organization understood the consequences of showing this to impressionable young people.
Also, I am not trapped, so I have no need to escape a life I love and enjoy. I am at peace with the fact that I get one life and that there is nothing beyond this life. I can handle it.
I understand but we could debate the existence of hell until our time expires but the best known truth is that no one really knows I find these kinds of scare tactics a little repulsive. Please understand my perspective.
I can not convince you; it's not in my power to do so, but I know one who can; look up and know there is a God in Heaven who finds great value in you, and using the same trust that your own children have in you; that you would protect them from harm; simply ask Him to do the same and He will.
Nothing else in the world requires that. Having blind faith in a god and not questioning, learning, educating and understanding the world through other means is irresponsible and dangerous. Please do not misconstrue my words. I am not speaking only to you or trying to insult you. We cannot become better people and hope to stop some of the atrocities in the world if we just continue to believe and do not investigate further. Peace sandiegobroker.
I can't stand the way he doesn't let you get a word in edgewise! To me, this is illustrative of how full of it some Xians can be; many of them claim to have higher moral standards than the rest of us, and yet they can be rude, condescending, presumptuous arseholes who will not allow the other side to speak. Next time I hear the old "but if you don't believe in the bible, where do you get your morals from?" question, I'm going to laugh my arse off!
It doesn't matter if they've recycled a soundtrack that's been around since the early nineties; the fact is that TBF put the visuals and sound together in it's present format and posted it on the net to make it available to a world wide audience. Why would he want to weasel out of his responsibility for the message that he is sending out to the world about Xianity? My guess is that he is copping a lot of flack for this from both Theists and non-believers and he's trying to minimise his role.
Absolutely, I feel the same way. Just because they were not the creative geniuses behind it, doesn't mean they aren't responsible to the message by dramatizing it in that manner. He did sday he has gotten some very belligerent calls and emails.
I agree with freetaught, I have no idea why believers automatically take non-believers for idiots knowing full well that the vast majority of us are recovering theists.I know I can't just be speaking for myself when I say that reading the bible and wrestling with it's inconsistencies was one of the first and most powerful reinforcements of the idea that it was more than likely all bullshit.
Could one of you Christians PLEASE help me? As an atheist, I'm afraid that I will be condemned to hell. So, if that does happen to me, then how much is the postage from hell? Do they sell stamps, or should i bring my own? What time does the postman pick up the hellmail? Does everybody get a PO box, or do we share a return address like "c/o Satan, General Delivery"? If I'm burning in eternal hellfire, won't my stationery get scorched? I have so many questions...I do want to be ready.
CaptainMacNasty 1 year ago
fucken nobs
dlrsuhn1 2 years ago
those who do not belive in God will burn in hell!!!!!! The body that i rule is in the country named Romania...near Bucharest...in the city called Oltenita...his name is Mihail Christian...in romanian language...mihai cristian...today it is 30.01.2009...if somebody contacts me at messenger id : diesel_porno2009 ...an idiot ID...i shall not bring the hell out of my dad's burial grounds...wich is at the North Pole...i have choosed this "movie" because he is partial right... SUMADARTSON DEMON......
gogu921 3 years ago
Those who do not believe in God, along with those who do will never know the difference. No one knows what lies beyond death. Did you hear that? No one knows. You only have faith and belief.
mconn2112 3 years ago
the point of the video was for christians who are afraid to share the Gospel. Did you even watch the video!!!!!!!!
JRKIMBLE 3 years ago
Of course I watched the video, multiple times. Who told you that the vid was about Christians afraid to share the gospel, your minister? Is this someone else's explanation or your conclusion with no influence? Something important to think about.
You are clearly avoiding the entire premise of the video, which is that a a young man's friend is sending him a letter from Hell and is describing the terrible fear. How can you not address that?
mconn2112 3 years ago
In the original video posted to GodTube there is a disclaimer that says basically what "jrkimble" said.
cadborasaurus 3 years ago
Just because they put a disclaimer up there does not mean that it doesn't come across a different way.
mconn2112 3 years ago
Just because you didn't understand the video at all does not mean that the video was made for the purpose your thinking.
cadborasaurus 3 years ago
Mike,
I have been discussing & debating Christianity for many years & saying I didn't understand the video is a bankrupt statement. That is one of many default arguments from Christians that is self defeating. This video was fearmongering as evidence by the depiction of someone being sent to hell and we all have a pretty good image of what Christians see as hell. I believe that the creators did not set out to make it that way, because of the way they perceived the message & the content.
mconn2112 3 years ago
Just because they explain it as one thing does not mean it cannot be something entirely different.
mconn2112 3 years ago
Every human being alive deserves to be sent to hell, even Christians. We are all sinners. Yet, God came to earth as a man to die as the PERFECT sacrifice, so that "all who believe in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life." (John 3:16b).
cadborasaurus 3 years ago
Quoting scripture is a of the biggest self defeating arguments among Christians. There is no contemporary evidence to prove the bible, let alone that the bible itself has not been clearly substantiated to be histroically accurate.
mconn2112 3 years ago
okay then, what about Isaiah chapter 66, which prophecies that Israel would be reborn as a nation in ONE day. And then, after WWII in I believe 1948, but don't quote me on the date, Israel became a nation in JUST ONE DAY. That's HISTORICAL AND SCRIPTURAL. Then Israel was attacked by pretty much all the surrounding nations THAT DAY before they had any organized army and Israel drove them back and remained a nation.
cadborasaurus 3 years ago
3:10... what a bullshit cop-out and typical answer
whoisfettel 3 years ago
big, stinking pile for sure.
mconn2112 3 years ago
wow then he says "you totally dont believe what we do" how could he know what you know or believe? what an idiot.
gees is he gonna let you speak? man! babble babble babble. :X somebody shut him up!
fckuvrymch 3 years ago
that was so funny he actually said the content was not made for people who were not believers!!!
gees... then who the hell is it for?
if you already believe then why would you need to know jesus?
hahahahhahaha (cont'd)
fckuvrymch 3 years ago
Damn. I wanted to see how he was going to answer the question at the end!
Damn!
KingPoison 3 years ago
Sorry man. I lost about a couple minutes there. He basically said that if someone who was a current believer watched the "A Letter From Hell" and became an atheists or questioned their faith, he would want to speak with them right away. Obviously to do some damage control, but the saddest thing to me was he acted like he didn't understand what I was trying to convey. He also basically avoided the questionand never gave me a direct answer. I expected as much.
mconn2112 3 years ago
Haha.
Okay thanks, and yeah YouTube is a bitch for cropping videos.
But yeah, most religious people are the same. Answering questions with indirect answers.
Keep up the good work!
Peace.
KingPoison 3 years ago
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
sandiegobroker 3 years ago
My concern is to get home and to invite as many as I can on my way.
sandiegobroker 3 years ago
1 Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
sandiegobroker 3 years ago
Luke 18:17 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.
sandiegobroker 3 years ago
Why Stone the messenger?
This is exactly what the bible teaches.
But good news, God is love, trust Him and He will save you. John 3:16
There is away of excape.
sandiegobroker 3 years ago
Hello Randy,
My desire was to identify whether or not this organization understood the consequences of showing this to impressionable young people.
Also, I am not trapped, so I have no need to escape a life I love and enjoy. I am at peace with the fact that I get one life and that there is nothing beyond this life. I can handle it.
mconn2112 3 years ago
Please understand true Christians are extremely concerned with the consequences and that why we cry out.
sandiegobroker 3 years ago
I understand but we could debate the existence of hell until our time expires but the best known truth is that no one really knows I find these kinds of scare tactics a little repulsive. Please understand my perspective.
mconn2112 3 years ago
I can not convince you; it's not in my power to do so, but I know one who can; look up and know there is a God in Heaven who finds great value in you, and using the same trust that your own children have in you; that you would protect them from harm; simply ask Him to do the same and He will.
All He requires is believing with out seeing.
sandiegobroker 3 years ago
"All He requires is believing with out seeing."
Nothing else in the world requires that. Having blind faith in a god and not questioning, learning, educating and understanding the world through other means is irresponsible and dangerous. Please do not misconstrue my words. I am not speaking only to you or trying to insult you. We cannot become better people and hope to stop some of the atrocities in the world if we just continue to believe and do not investigate further. Peace sandiegobroker.
mconn2112 3 years ago
You are correct in saying "nothing in this world requires bind faith" but I am not talking but this world.
My concern is for the here after and my authority on this matter comes from one who had risen from the dead.
sandiegobroker 3 years ago
OMG, the guy on the phone is fucking nuts. Cant stop lauhging XD
Deadagent 3 years ago
It was amazing to me that he just could not understand where I was coming from.
mconn2112 3 years ago
Good video mconn2112, /Subscribed.
TheLovePizza 3 years ago
Thanks, I appreciate it.
mconn2112 3 years ago
holy shit, i just watched the video you asked him about
c r a z y c o r n y s c a r e t a c t i c s
onlywhenprovoked 3 years ago
Is that fucked up or what?
mconn2112 3 years ago
"you can't understand the content cuz your not a believer".bullshit.will watch your second part..i need to reply to that original video
it is sick beyond words
vocalbrush 3 years ago
Yes and Yes. :)
mconn2112 3 years ago
You inverted the luminous but not the color.
Walabio 3 years ago
It happened to be one of the stock effects on my web cam that I went with.
mconn2112 3 years ago
I can't stand the way he doesn't let you get a word in edgewise! To me, this is illustrative of how full of it some Xians can be; many of them claim to have higher moral standards than the rest of us, and yet they can be rude, condescending, presumptuous arseholes who will not allow the other side to speak. Next time I hear the old "but if you don't believe in the bible, where do you get your morals from?" question, I'm going to laugh my arse off!
FantasmaBAnco 3 years ago
That question always gives me a chuckle as well. Religious piety does not constitute morality nor is it a by product of it.
mconn2112 3 years ago
It doesn't matter if they've recycled a soundtrack that's been around since the early nineties; the fact is that TBF put the visuals and sound together in it's present format and posted it on the net to make it available to a world wide audience. Why would he want to weasel out of his responsibility for the message that he is sending out to the world about Xianity? My guess is that he is copping a lot of flack for this from both Theists and non-believers and he's trying to minimise his role.
FantasmaBAnco 3 years ago
Absolutely, I feel the same way. Just because they were not the creative geniuses behind it, doesn't mean they aren't responsible to the message by dramatizing it in that manner. He did sday he has gotten some very belligerent calls and emails.
mconn2112 3 years ago
I'm not surprised.
FantasmaBAnco 3 years ago
"Are you a believer?" Paul asked you.
"Oh, then you would'nt understand."
Critical thinking is imparitive these days.
Its good that you rationally addressed the issue.
DVincentW 3 years ago
Thanks man. Part 2 coming.
mconn2112 3 years ago
Great video, man. Is there more? Part two?
Interesting stuff.
eequalsfb 3 years ago
Yeah, brother. My computer actually says it is still saving it and has been for 3 hours. Fuckin' YT. Part 2 coming and to discuss part 2.
mconn2112 3 years ago
I agree with freetaught, I have no idea why believers automatically take non-believers for idiots knowing full well that the vast majority of us are recovering theists.I know I can't just be speaking for myself when I say that reading the bible and wrestling with it's inconsistencies was one of the first and most powerful reinforcements of the idea that it was more than likely all bullshit.
Scheckig 3 years ago 2
Thanks for the feedback.
mconn2112 3 years ago
I hate that shit! Ask what your position is at the offset, as if it matters... we atheists just don't F#cking get it?
That's one of the statements that really gets to me everytime!
freetaught 3 years ago 2
Me too. I wanted to address it right away but he kept rolling. More to come Part 2.
mconn2112 3 years ago