While it is true that being in good shape is preferable to being obese, true martial arts do not absolutely require it. Arts such as Kenpo & Kung Fu have an internal structure that the practitioner must "find." Once said practitioner finds his structure, he can ironically become lazier with his technique (meaning he no longer has to strictly follow textbook motions for the techniques to work). While Mr. Speakman does appear to be over-weight, his Kenpo is better now than when he was young.
if your going to grappling as part of your system,its a good idea if you can actually grapple which speakman obviously cannot.His kicking is also atrociously bad
One good think BJJ guys did is open the world to effectiveness of grappling. MOst good BJJ schools also supplement with Muay Thai and boxing. I think in about 50 years we would no longer have traditional martial arts. Slowly but surely most schools would teach boxing, wrestling, Muay Thai type kickboxing, perhaps some fancy TKD type kicks, and definitely submission grappling (sambo, bjj, judo, etc.).
I doubt it. You'll always have Kyokushin, Shotokan, Goju Ryu, Kudokan Judo, Tang Soo Do, Hapkido, Taekwondo, Jujutsu, Aikijujutsu, Hung Gar, Northern Shaolin, Wing Chun, Escrima, Kenpo, JKD, and other MA out there to give people a variety of techniques to choose from. Loyoto Machida has shown how to incorporate TMA into MMA, and other UFC fighters like Liddel and St. Pierre have done the same. For schools to limit themselves to just the styles you mentioned is unlikely.
I agree. BTW, your post on history of kenpo was excellent. As for Machida: 1. Most MA masters are not open minded enough or conditioned enough to challenge their style against other styles in a full contact arena. You'll hear many excuses. 2. Machida is not only a national level Karate competitor, but is a BLACK BELT in Brazilian Jiujistu, a boxer, and Muay Thai competitor who also supplemented his training with wrestlers. He's very unique.
I'm actually glad that he can see beyond his limmitations (MOST KENPO GUYS DON"T) and include grappling into his arsenal. Too many martial artists refuse to get supplemental training and develope some "anti grappling" techniques and instructional DVDs. At least he was open minded to get some basic grappling. You can't beat a grappler if you never studied grappling.
Kenpo was originally called Kosho Ryu Kempo-Jujutsu under James Mitose, and had grappling techniques mixed with striking techniques from the beginning. He passed this on to William Chow who created Kara-Ho Kenpo Karate after adding more Kung Fu techniques to his system. It was American Kenpo founder Ed Parker who really messed with the Mitose-Chow lineage, removing much of the grappling from Kenpo and changing 80% of what the art originally was. Speakman is only putting back what was taken out.
there are a lot of styles out there that now claim there style originaly had grappling techniques incorporated, this has suddenly come out of the woodwork since the mma/bjj boom, the fact is never has grappling been taught to such an expert level as brazillian jujitsu, wrestling has also come to the fore front, this is a good thing for martial arts in general, many people talk about tradition, wrestling/boxing/muay thai, combining the three is expertise.
There's nothing to "claim," I was simply stating fact. Kenpo started as a mix of striking and grappling techniques, and lost a lot of those techniques during the Ed Parker era. BJJ is all the rage now, but it comes from Kodokan Judo, and as someone once said, you can't re-invent the joint-lock. Human bodies still functon today the same way they did hudreds of years ago, and there's nothing that hasn't already been developed before. MMA however, seems to have greater expertise in swagger.
never mind what is the rage now, the simple fact is that bjj is popular for a reason, the reason is in your face pal, the gracies have taken grappling groundfighting to another level, helio gracie originally learnt from kodokan judo, it was his years of practice and adding wrestling techniques, and open challenge matches, for which the gracie family is famous. that has refined bjj into a fantastic art, maybe styles such as kenpo have lost there grappling roots, bjj has bought them back.
so instead of winging like a 10 year old girl!!! why dont you put on a gi, get on the mmat and learn some bjj, it can only improve what you already(if anything) know!
You see, this is what I mean. Why is it that you can't go to any martial arts vid on youtube or anywhere else without some MMA type almost evangelically preaching the gospel of MMA/Muay Thai/BJJ while bad-mouthing other MA as well as everyone else around them? MMA and its Muay Thai/BJJ combo might be lauded in the octagon, but it is also loathed due to the attitude and arrogance it seems to instill in its practitioners who constantly reinforce the MMA trash-talking stereotype.
ive met and trained with mma, bjj, muay thai practitioners, not once have i come accross arragonce, attitude, they are respectable disciplined people, i myself train in traditional goju ryu, i do some bjj for grappling purposes, these guys that comment on youtube with arrogannce and attitude, probably dont train martial arts, they watch it on youtube, and are just fans, you cant blame that on the practitioners of these arts,e.g. boxing is a fine art, but the fans come in all shapes and sizes.
Jeff Speakman has set up better kenpo karate type than any other form that i have trained in. although i got my black in Mr Tatum's kenpo, i am glad that i now train in one of mr speakmans schools
No, I was referring to Jeff Speakman. I admire Larry Tatum as well, but I really would prefer Speakman primarily. Maybe it's his demeanor, I'm not real sure but Speakman would be my choice over anyone, with one exception,. . Dr. Ron Chapel.
Okay, I assumed again. . . . . sorry! Just to let you know, Dr. Chapel has a studio in Torrance. I visited a couple of times and loved it right away. He's really a cool guy, even in his sixties. I would say he'd be my first choice rather than Speakman b/c he's closer to me and he's not involved in the tournament circuit. He's only interested in teaching for self-defense. I think I'm past getting involved in tournaments at stage in my life. So Chapel would probably work out better.
I know I probably didn't clarify what I was trying to say. I feel someone is going to misinterpret it. I believe Speakman to be a very competent, viable force in the ring or on the street. I am mainly interested in street level competency in training. I am not sure if he exclusively trains people that way. But I do know that Chapel does, he even said so. That's why he doesn't train children. But of course some teachers of Krav Mag and maybe other styles are the same way.
does anyone know Jeff Speakman's old and last student? its Antranik Parseghian. he is the best kenpo 5.0 instructor ever. and i am one of his brown belts. and i don't apprieciate u talking about Jeff Speakman in a bad way.
Thank You for those of you who aren't talking about him.
Speakman 5.Gay! Thank you Jeffy-Boy for making Kenpo something that even homos can appreciate. Now you should feel right at home you self-righteous prick.
If you can't handle true kenpo evolution from a gifted instructor, you should show at least some semblance of self respect and keep your mouth shut Mr. alancaltry
fighting amongst ourselves and name calling is ruining the reputation of kenpo in the eyes of our younger practitioners. obviously you have little self esteem and need to downplay others to make yourself feel better. He studied with SG Ed Parker, have you? I would much rather have a conversation, but am willing to put my skills to the test. grow up!
but because of the evoltution of mma and k1 ...taking it to the ground... and in kenpo ram just means front tackle (and nobody is going for a tackle but for the ground) mr speakman concluded that it's in handy to know grappling and brazilian jiujitsu for in case your being tackeld and taken to the ground,you know a way out or a way in to this attack.
The ideal martial art needs to give its students the constant opportunity to practice thier art realistically otherwise it is mostly theory and guess work. You dont want to test your art on the street, you want to test it in the dojo. If you cannot do this it is a major limitation of the art. Kenpo needs to spend a lot less time on their technique lines and more time striking and grappling. Most Kenpo techniques and moves probably wont work against a trained fighter.
yes it does but not in all the technique's,the answer on that question is already posted here so take a look,the thing is in "kenpo" (the original technique's) there are a few technique's that are called "ram" or "ram and eagle" etc,
Is master Jeffspeakman teaching jujitsu? becouse i don't know any kenpo karate technique that has that kind of defense" Anyway,and respecfully thank you for sharing that video"
hey thnx for posting a reaction on the video and its my pleasure....
Normaly kenpo techniques "like you say" dont have jujitsu but since he created and refined his techniques within the 5.0 system he had a influence of a grand master in brazilian jujitsu where he is taking lessons;so kenpo 5.0 has brazilian jujitsu.
Well thank for enswering me, I am a kenpo karate teacher I teach in London, United Kingdom, I respect every Master of American Kenpo Karate, I am studying to become a scintist and What I relized every time I practice Kenpo is that it is really effective and studied" I
@AmericanKenpo1 what grandmaster in bjj taught him?The only 9th dan in america is rorian gracie,the rest live in brazil .If hes going to include bjj,he neeeds someone to teach it properly and not sports bjj,the gracie academy combatatives would be ideal for kenpo,all theyd have to do then would learn how to fight standing up and theyd have a decent art.
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While it is true that being in good shape is preferable to being obese, true martial arts do not absolutely require it. Arts such as Kenpo & Kung Fu have an internal structure that the practitioner must "find." Once said practitioner finds his structure, he can ironically become lazier with his technique (meaning he no longer has to strictly follow textbook motions for the techniques to work). While Mr. Speakman does appear to be over-weight, his Kenpo is better now than when he was young.
quanfa88 7 months ago
What is it with Kenpo fighters, they are all fat like Ed Parker.
clearcombat 1 year ago
The ignorance of people on youtube is just ridiculous.
jadeezy21 1 year ago
if your going to grappling as part of your system,its a good idea if you can actually grapple which speakman obviously cannot.His kicking is also atrociously bad
billysue2 1 year ago
Jeff Speakman
el tipo es un maldito genio del kenpo
korkuz1 2 years ago
One good think BJJ guys did is open the world to effectiveness of grappling. MOst good BJJ schools also supplement with Muay Thai and boxing. I think in about 50 years we would no longer have traditional martial arts. Slowly but surely most schools would teach boxing, wrestling, Muay Thai type kickboxing, perhaps some fancy TKD type kicks, and definitely submission grappling (sambo, bjj, judo, etc.).
MAfanatic 2 years ago
I doubt it. You'll always have Kyokushin, Shotokan, Goju Ryu, Kudokan Judo, Tang Soo Do, Hapkido, Taekwondo, Jujutsu, Aikijujutsu, Hung Gar, Northern Shaolin, Wing Chun, Escrima, Kenpo, JKD, and other MA out there to give people a variety of techniques to choose from. Loyoto Machida has shown how to incorporate TMA into MMA, and other UFC fighters like Liddel and St. Pierre have done the same. For schools to limit themselves to just the styles you mentioned is unlikely.
44excalibur 2 years ago
I agree. BTW, your post on history of kenpo was excellent. As for Machida: 1. Most MA masters are not open minded enough or conditioned enough to challenge their style against other styles in a full contact arena. You'll hear many excuses. 2. Machida is not only a national level Karate competitor, but is a BLACK BELT in Brazilian Jiujistu, a boxer, and Muay Thai competitor who also supplemented his training with wrestlers. He's very unique.
MAfanatic 2 years ago
id have to say id have reservations about a master teaching grappling when hes only a beginner himself.
billysue2 2 years ago
I'm actually glad that he can see beyond his limmitations (MOST KENPO GUYS DON"T) and include grappling into his arsenal. Too many martial artists refuse to get supplemental training and develope some "anti grappling" techniques and instructional DVDs. At least he was open minded to get some basic grappling. You can't beat a grappler if you never studied grappling.
MAfanatic 2 years ago
Kenpo was originally called Kosho Ryu Kempo-Jujutsu under James Mitose, and had grappling techniques mixed with striking techniques from the beginning. He passed this on to William Chow who created Kara-Ho Kenpo Karate after adding more Kung Fu techniques to his system. It was American Kenpo founder Ed Parker who really messed with the Mitose-Chow lineage, removing much of the grappling from Kenpo and changing 80% of what the art originally was. Speakman is only putting back what was taken out.
44excalibur 2 years ago
there are a lot of styles out there that now claim there style originaly had grappling techniques incorporated, this has suddenly come out of the woodwork since the mma/bjj boom, the fact is never has grappling been taught to such an expert level as brazillian jujitsu, wrestling has also come to the fore front, this is a good thing for martial arts in general, many people talk about tradition, wrestling/boxing/muay thai, combining the three is expertise.
singhakabuttar 2 years ago
There's nothing to "claim," I was simply stating fact. Kenpo started as a mix of striking and grappling techniques, and lost a lot of those techniques during the Ed Parker era. BJJ is all the rage now, but it comes from Kodokan Judo, and as someone once said, you can't re-invent the joint-lock. Human bodies still functon today the same way they did hudreds of years ago, and there's nothing that hasn't already been developed before. MMA however, seems to have greater expertise in swagger.
44excalibur 2 years ago
never mind what is the rage now, the simple fact is that bjj is popular for a reason, the reason is in your face pal, the gracies have taken grappling groundfighting to another level, helio gracie originally learnt from kodokan judo, it was his years of practice and adding wrestling techniques, and open challenge matches, for which the gracie family is famous. that has refined bjj into a fantastic art, maybe styles such as kenpo have lost there grappling roots, bjj has bought them back.
singhakabuttar 2 years ago
so instead of winging like a 10 year old girl!!! why dont you put on a gi, get on the mmat and learn some bjj, it can only improve what you already(if anything) know!
singhakabuttar 2 years ago
You see, this is what I mean. Why is it that you can't go to any martial arts vid on youtube or anywhere else without some MMA type almost evangelically preaching the gospel of MMA/Muay Thai/BJJ while bad-mouthing other MA as well as everyone else around them? MMA and its Muay Thai/BJJ combo might be lauded in the octagon, but it is also loathed due to the attitude and arrogance it seems to instill in its practitioners who constantly reinforce the MMA trash-talking stereotype.
44excalibur 2 years ago
ive met and trained with mma, bjj, muay thai practitioners, not once have i come accross arragonce, attitude, they are respectable disciplined people, i myself train in traditional goju ryu, i do some bjj for grappling purposes, these guys that comment on youtube with arrogannce and attitude, probably dont train martial arts, they watch it on youtube, and are just fans, you cant blame that on the practitioners of these arts,e.g. boxing is a fine art, but the fans come in all shapes and sizes.
singhakabuttar 2 years ago
Then how do you account for your last, rather belligerent comment? I take it you don't include yourself in that category?
44excalibur 2 years ago
all i said is that you may benefit from bjj training, it will not hinder your practice, whatever style you practice!!
the little girl comment was just a bit of humour, which is also good for martial arts practice!
singhakabuttar 2 years ago
and yeh guys, plz don't fight...remember...wisdom strength kindness....and of course, we wudnt want another school of kenpo being favoured! ¬.¬
kenpoisawesome 2 years ago
Jeff Speakman has set up better kenpo karate type than any other form that i have trained in. although i got my black in Mr Tatum's kenpo, i am glad that i now train in one of mr speakmans schools
kenpoisawesome 2 years ago
Does he have a school near the West L.A. area?(California)
woodie62 2 years ago
if you mean Master Larry Tatum, then yes i believe so.
TabbzMoo 2 years ago
No, I was referring to Jeff Speakman. I admire Larry Tatum as well, but I really would prefer Speakman primarily. Maybe it's his demeanor, I'm not real sure but Speakman would be my choice over anyone, with one exception,. . Dr. Ron Chapel.
woodie62 2 years ago
ah cool fair enough! i don't know, i dont live in America!
TabbzMoo 2 years ago
Okay, I assumed again. . . . . sorry! Just to let you know, Dr. Chapel has a studio in Torrance. I visited a couple of times and loved it right away. He's really a cool guy, even in his sixties. I would say he'd be my first choice rather than Speakman b/c he's closer to me and he's not involved in the tournament circuit. He's only interested in teaching for self-defense. I think I'm past getting involved in tournaments at stage in my life. So Chapel would probably work out better.
woodie62 2 years ago
cool
TabbzMoo 2 years ago
I know I probably didn't clarify what I was trying to say. I feel someone is going to misinterpret it. I believe Speakman to be a very competent, viable force in the ring or on the street. I am mainly interested in street level competency in training. I am not sure if he exclusively trains people that way. But I do know that Chapel does, he even said so. That's why he doesn't train children. But of course some teachers of Krav Mag and maybe other styles are the same way.
woodie62 2 years ago
hyekenpo7....you are soooooo not sensei anto!
Abercrombie548 2 years ago
does anyone know Jeff Speakman's old and last student? its Antranik Parseghian. he is the best kenpo 5.0 instructor ever. and i am one of his brown belts. and i don't apprieciate u talking about Jeff Speakman in a bad way.
Thank You for those of you who aren't talking about him.
Abercrombie548 2 years ago
well then who are you? i am Antranig Parseghian very first black belt and also his wife......
Hyekenpo7 2 years ago
Speakman 5.Gay! Thank you Jeffy-Boy for making Kenpo something that even homos can appreciate. Now you should feel right at home you self-righteous prick.
alancaltry 3 years ago
If you can't handle true kenpo evolution from a gifted instructor, you should show at least some semblance of self respect and keep your mouth shut Mr. alancaltry
knunkhead 3 years ago
define "true kenpo evolution," and since when does your opinion of my opinion prove I have no self-respect? Please use your brain b4 responding.
alancaltry 3 years ago
fighting amongst ourselves and name calling is ruining the reputation of kenpo in the eyes of our younger practitioners. obviously you have little self esteem and need to downplay others to make yourself feel better. He studied with SG Ed Parker, have you? I would much rather have a conversation, but am willing to put my skills to the test. grow up!
knunkhead 3 years ago
I call the police, the police, I call n-deet da police? I call the police? What's your name?
alancaltry 3 years ago
but because of the evoltution of mma and k1 ...taking it to the ground... and in kenpo ram just means front tackle (and nobody is going for a tackle but for the ground) mr speakman concluded that it's in handy to know grappling and brazilian jiujitsu for in case your being tackeld and taken to the ground,you know a way out or a way in to this attack.
hope this satified your question
greetz
AmericanKenpo1 3 years ago
@AmericanKenpo1
The ideal martial art needs to give its students the constant opportunity to practice thier art realistically otherwise it is mostly theory and guess work. You dont want to test your art on the street, you want to test it in the dojo. If you cannot do this it is a major limitation of the art. Kenpo needs to spend a lot less time on their technique lines and more time striking and grappling. Most Kenpo techniques and moves probably wont work against a trained fighter.
peccleft64 7 months ago
hello
yes it does but not in all the technique's,the answer on that question is already posted here so take a look,the thing is in "kenpo" (the original technique's) there are a few technique's that are called "ram" or "ram and eagle" etc,
AmericanKenpo1 3 years ago
so this kenpo branch include ground fighting and grappling too as in brazilian jiujitsu?
borobei 3 years ago
everyone in that room is a badass!
kenpo all the way
jiu jitsu sucks
nbohli1 3 years ago
A higher level white belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu would handle those guys on the ground.
jayh81 3 years ago
haha, of course. i was just being sarcastic
nbohli1 3 years ago
sure they could
CobraLord 2 years ago
Is master Jeffspeakman teaching jujitsu? becouse i don't know any kenpo karate technique that has that kind of defense" Anyway,and respecfully thank you for sharing that video"
uruguayo1000 3 years ago
hey thnx for posting a reaction on the video and its my pleasure....
Normaly kenpo techniques "like you say" dont have jujitsu but since he created and refined his techniques within the 5.0 system he had a influence of a grand master in brazilian jujitsu where he is taking lessons;so kenpo 5.0 has brazilian jujitsu.
i hope ive answerd your question with this...
greetz
AmericanKenpo1 3 years ago
Well thank for enswering me, I am a kenpo karate teacher I teach in London, United Kingdom, I respect every Master of American Kenpo Karate, I am studying to become a scintist and What I relized every time I practice Kenpo is that it is really effective and studied" I
uruguayo1000 3 years ago
@AmericanKenpo1 what grandmaster in bjj taught him?The only 9th dan in america is rorian gracie,the rest live in brazil .If hes going to include bjj,he neeeds someone to teach it properly and not sports bjj,the gracie academy combatatives would be ideal for kenpo,all theyd have to do then would learn how to fight standing up and theyd have a decent art.
billysue2 1 year ago
thnx for the positive reaction....
and sorry for the last name fault....
Michèlle Janssen.
and we will come again towards you'r club.mayby for a seminar 5.0...who knows.
I will take contact with you or richard about that
kenpo greetz
AmericanKenpo1 3 years ago
Thanks for putting together this video and sharing it with us. The seminar was a great succes! Nice video!
Hopefully, untill next time!
Friendly regards,
Michèlle Janssen (instead of Jansens.. ;))
shelllx8 3 years ago
Thanx for putting this video together. Looks great and it was a big pleasure from my side to have you with us on the seminar!
Nice regards,
Richard Baarspul
Jeff Speakman's Kenpo 5.0 - The Netherlands
AKKSNetherlands 3 years ago
Thanx M8t
its my pleasure.
We had a great time and thats why i wanted to show this to the rest.
greetz
AmericanKenpo1 3 years ago
great video!!! perfect job.
respectfully
Humberto.
JSKK Allende,Coahuila,Mex.
myrmidonH76 3 years ago