i'm the guy Zachary Tims is testifying about .. i asked him for help in 2010 after i lost my inheritance in 2000, bad marriage, but he couldn't give me $5.
Watch Missionary Johnny's teachings with Personal testimony of dealings with Zachary Tims : Johnny Rice gave $107,000 donations, but Zach wouldn’t help Johnny’s Missions to India Ministry. PASTOR RIVA TIMS, HOWEVER, GAVE A GENEROUS DONATION of $500 & prayers from Majestic Life Church encouraged Johnny departure to India....
Creflo lied. I saw with my own two eyes a recording of him saying he would not release any financial records without a government order subpoena. Which I doubt he will have to worry about due the fact he boldly display's his Masonic affiliation.
.....having $ is not evil you fools, its your relationship with it & to it. I've been rich and ive been poor, i know the difference by now. AND to accuse someone you dont personally know of theft or pimping, without evidence means that your breaking one of THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, dare you bare false witness and then find out you were wrong!?
This Eddie Long is one fine scam artist and sodomite. Nothing against sodomy. I love it. But this guy is a vulture, a vermin, scum and scam of the top christian level. THIS kind of child and teen abuse goes on and on within the Church, all of them, and finally this big fatass got caught. Gullible are the assholes who 'worship' at his church. As it says in the Bible, "Give them shit and they'll eat it".
This Eddie Long is one fine scam artist and sodomite. Nothing against sodomy. I love it. But this guy is a vulture, a vermin, scum and scam of the top christian level. THIS kind of child and teen abuse goes on and on within the Church, all of them, and finally this big fatass got caught. Gullible are the assholes who 'worship' at his church. As it says in the Bible, "Give them shit and they'll eat it".
just think if everyone went back to volunteering for greater good. u knw when storms come, homeless need 2 b fed, children tutored nd taught. When people were opressed nd didn't have money they snuck nd learn nd taught 2 others. b4 world created debt wit what God gave free, imagine a world were we used the free nd. The word was freely given to us now we charge for salvation. Jesus parable about leasing 2 the tenants then they kept it charged everyone else then killed the son makes u think.
Religious distress is at the same time the expression of the real distress and also the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of the spiritless condition. It is the opium of the people. Nevertheless, Religion is what they give to Slaves, Women and children,
so they obey their masters, husbands and parents. Since, I am neither
This Eddie Long is one fine scam artist and sodomite. Nothing against sodomy. I love it. But this guy is a vulture, a vermin, scum and scam of the top christian level. THIS kind of child and teen abuse goes on and on within the Church, all of them, and finally this big fatass got caught. Gullible are the assholes who workship at his church. As it says in the Bible, "Give them shit and they'll eat it".
Be truthful and stop telling people that the money collected is going to God when you know darn well it goes to your pocket. The fact is is ..... this preaching thing is a money making scam; it is a scam because they are constantly misleading people. Where is your fear of God? you have no fear of God; this is why you do what you do.
I personally DO NOT believe that just because you are a pastor and you have a lot of money means that you're a crook. But it does look odd when your pastor has luxury cars and extremely expensive homes while more than a few of your members will go home to a dark house after service because they felt guilted into tithing as opposed to tithing because they think it is right.
IF THESE PREACHERS TEACH THE MEMBERS THAT IF THEY DO NOT WORK AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAMLIES THEM AND THEIR FAMILY WILL NOT SURVIVE, SHOULDN"T THE SAME GO FOR CREFLO DOLLAR EDDIE LONG AND ANY OTHER PREACHER THAT ARE NOT OF RETIREMENT AGE. WHY SHOULD THE HEADS OF FAMLIES TAKE CARE OF THE PASTOR AND THE PASTORS FAMILY AND TAKE CARE HIS OWN FAMILY? EXPLAIN THAT TO ME
I don't see anything wrong with a luxury lifestyle - if it is rightfully earned. I am not judging, but I wonder how much time and money is invested in doing corporal and spiritual acts of mercy and just spending time ministering to the sick and shut-in. If they have done wrong, God will surely repay them. He always bring justice and vindication.
@philippeclement If you love poetry you will love this poem. Search " IS the Cross Christian" It will blow your mind!!!!!!!!! IF you are Deep, are you?
Why don't people start using their gift of a brain, to know they, themself can give and help those around them instead of assuming that the organized cults and crooked religious leader are doing it for them, all the while they are being robbed
those who don't know the principal of Gods Kingdom (Light) will talk ignorance (darkness). God will bless those who are obedience! it will cost you your life!
we are seated in heavenly places,but swinging from the beams or pushing people over for excessive wage packets is wrong.freely you recieve freely give.Jesus pushed no one over ,but only lifted up the poor and needy and fed them with gospel truth in a sandwich
I was born to win LOL what kind of name is that?? Sounds like freeflow dolla to me? Who are you anyway? You are that free flow dolla preacher arent you?
what how he & his church group is still sending money 2 help Katrina Victims, which your government is claiming everything is ok now. What about giving a million dollars 2 help build a state of the art hospital in Kenya Africa, where they burn alive the babies who mother's are HIV positive? or giving $40,000 to schools in Atlanta, paying for band uniforms, and after school programs which your government has cut funding for. And U got a nerve 2 post a video like this, with out knowing the facts?
I was speaking in private to this person (IwasBorn2Win), but they've decided to block me, because they did not like that I stand against the false teaching they endorse.
@IndependentConserv If you love poetry you will love this poem. Search " IS the Cross Christian" It will blow your mind!!!!!!!!! IF you are Deep, are you?
@IwasBorn2Win you are right !!! that is why i hate republicans & conservatives, i am a hurricane Katrina survivor. they think that all help should come from churches groups & people sending money. they think that the government shouldn't give any help to anyone. we live in the richest country, i think that the government should always help the people in need & not the churches doing everything themselves. because with church groups things are always "LIMITED !!! "
@IwasBorn2Win The money Dollar gives away are pennie compared 2 what he is recieving, If the spirit Of god was aroung him dont you think Atlanta would be a very Good place to live, but there is so much crime around that boy's church its pathetic to think he has any connection with the lord.
Yall are trippin on here. Get a grip and some sense!so quick 2 throw stones but yet fail 2 look at the real story & legal paperwork. U all need 2 know the facts. My brother who is the lead attorney for the IRS, worked very close on this case. Chuck Grassely who made this public attack on these preachers chracters did so with intent of harm and No just reason . The senator was out of order and caught on tape doing and recieving under the table bonus deals to lie on this religious ministers.
if this senator wanted 2 know these church's income,he knows 2 pull their IRS audits with the IRS- non-profit audit office. ALL ministries, espcially Eddie Long, Joyce Myer, and TD Jakes, have passed ALL legal & Audit investigation according 2 the IRS. I can't wait 2 November so I can vote this right wing racist NUT ( & I'm white), out of office. This senator can't stand to see blacks, latinos, jews, do economically well. They always have 2 associate a well 2 do minister with pimping. please!
I am not 4 sure what your beef is with Jakes,but whatever! TD Jakes was on the list, of this ridiculous request by a right wing republican who has mentioned in his interviews that churches does not need to talk about economic empowerment. In other words, let miniorty church folks stay dumb and broke. Please if either ministry was in illegal standing, the government would have shut thier churches down long time ago.
Casino, I have better idea! Why don't we expose you. what should we send u to jail for? you might night pimping in the pulpit, but you got dirty skeltons in your closet. I say we all should investigate on you! Since I work for the IRS, why don't we do some back ground check on you.
SolideoGloriafella you go from video to video trying make these life changing men who are healing people and saving peoples lives look bad. Sir do you have hate or hurt inside of you? I have noticed on all these videos you go around to each one shouting out these same scriptures trying justify your stones being throwed..
The only god these shameless pimps serve is Mammon, and you do nothing to further the cause of your Christ by following behind these moneychangers and false prophets.
"There is great gain in godliness with contentment, for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world. But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content." (1Timothy6:6-8)
"Those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs"
(1 Timothy 6:6-10).
Why would you want to develop a ministry that encourages people to pierce themselves with many pangs and plunge themselves into ruin and destruction?
All of the "God wants Christians to be rich" people never can answer the question why Paul was not rich, the Apostles were not rich, and the 1st century Christians were not rich..
THey just bypass the question and spew garbage,
(DJisforreal)......Still waiting on that answer...
Are any of you Surprised that the Media, and this Senator are blasting this Pastors. The real Question is why and who profits from seeing them fall. I ues to think just as some of you do, however after realizing all these people who are being watched like a Hawk Preach at least 3- 4 times aweek, reach Millions all over the World with the Gospel and I know that Joyce Meyors does FREE Conferances several times a year. So let all the Accuser Of the Breathren Stop Hating.
This is to Gareof name someone in the bible who was poor and still had people give their lives to God.Don't say Jesus because he was a carpenter and capenters made a lot of money even now, don't say Peter because he was a tax collector so.God made Job poor to show Job the he need God and when Job realized that God made him rich again So don't scripture out of context because of your diagreements or your disbelief in God's Doctrine.You study the bible and tell me where God said we should be poor.
Ok if God just wants us to be rich in him... give all of your money away and GIVE your car and house away. Just worship God and try to spread the gospel broke busted and disgusted. I'll tel you what happens next you become angry with God because you are miserable. You would curse God and try to get your stuff back. Don't be ignorant people. If God wanted us to be broke and homeless Joseph would have been second to pharoh and David wouldn't have been king. God blesses is people don't get it wrong
Just because people dont agree with the "God wants people to be rich" philosophy doesnt mean that they believe that God wants people to be poor...
God wants His people to be content with what they have...(1Tim6)
If GOd wants Christians rich... What happened to Paul, the Apostles, 1st century Christians, and modern Christians in the eastern nation eduring hardship?
"Theyve never heard of 1 Corinthians 4, cause they say they cant imagine Gods people being poor."
Out of the most severe trial, their overflowing joy and their extreme poverty welled up in rich generosity. For I testify that they gave as much as they were able, and even beyond their ability. Entirely on their own,
Don't take that out of context.That woman gave her last in faith for more.The others were giving outta neccessity and not faith.God said he wants to prosper us in more ways than one,but when your prosperous people tend to look and think differently of you.The wealth of the wicked is laid up for the just,but the just have to have to have aggresive faith to get is and it's the passive people angry with the ones with aggressive faith.Those pastors have aggressive faith.Don't be mad if you don't.
"God wants us to be content..."If we were to be content we wouldn't have to renew our minds everyday.He would tell us to seek his face.He wouldn't have told us to be fruitful and multiply.He wouldn't have told us to subdue the earth and everything in it.Paul became rich in Alexandria after he lost everything on a boat as a prisoner.The people of alexandria blessed him.They need foundation to build on without foundation a structure cannot stand.They became content...Sound Familiar!!!!
Everyone of them mention are all false teachers. No problem with that one. The poor yet are not any less guilty, bibles are everywhere, all you need do is read. Most churches will give you one if you ask free of charge.Plus God gave ALL and innate ability to discern lies from truth.
I Timothy 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain. 6:7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. 6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
They are afraid of his power. He is one of many churches that stepped in and helped in the time of Katrina. The government want these events to cause failure quicker so it's tough when the churches step in like that.
God's Word says he has chosen the poor of this world to be rich in faith & Jesus said: it is hard for a rich man to get into heaven... (so, who do you think wants you to be rich?) but false teachers must increase in the last days before Christ returns, but it sure is hard to watch ordinary folks get ripped off in the name of Jesus, by these liars. Folks need to study God's Word & they will immunize themselves against false doctrine
Is God double-minded? On one hand, Jesus says WOE UNTO YOU WHO ARE RICH(Lk 6:24), yet Christians say "God wants us rich." On one hand, Jesus says, You CANNOT serve God and mammon(Mat 6:24)," yet christians say, "God wants us rich." Jesus says, "Lay NOT up for yourselves treasures upon this earth, but lay up treasures in HEAVEN(Mt 6:19), yet christians say, "God wants us rich." Jesus says, "How hardly shall they that have riches enter the kingdom of God(Mk 10:23), yet, "God wants us rich."
You have to really think about If Jesus had the 12 disciple leave EVERYTHING to follow him Jesus had to be making money to support them. Having money is not wrong it is the LOVE of money that is wrong. Tithe & offering is not Demanded but it's how we are blessed so we can further the Kingdom. Let's not be pulled by every little piece of news that crosses our path. We must discern the truth through the Holy Spirit & not believe Everything on the nightly news!
Telling people they should give to expect earthly reward is WRONG. Jesus and the apostles lived like homeless people Matthew 8:20 & 1 Corinthians 4:11. If those pimps did not LOVE money, they would not LIE about what people should give it for and they would NOT retain so much for themselves, II Peter 2.
And the apostles NEVER told anyone to pay 10%. Tithe is obsolete, old covenant, not for the church and was never about money.
@IndependentConserv If you love poetry you will love this poem. Search " IS the Cross Christian" It will blow your mind!!!!!!!!! IF you are Deep, are you?
@IndependentConserv Simple enough, the gospel says anything that you ask in Jesus Christ name with faith, you shall receive. James goes on to say the same regarding receiving from anything from God only by unwavering faith, not by giving. Giving is sign of Charity. Charity is a fruit of the spirit of the holy spirit. Notice, a fruit. You have to believe and have faith to receive anything from God, that is the first requirement.
@IndependentConserv Faith in Jesus Christ first and asking in his name first and only. Love seed, tithe, offering mean nothing without developing your congregations faith only in God first. If it is given without faith in God, it's sin, bottom line
@abiola20 the word said you can't serve God and mammon (Satan god of money). the words says Pharoah's wife financed Jesus. Judas was an example of what happens when u serve mammon. That is why Jesus told them to leave it behind. If Jesus turned 5 loaves of bread into fish then he said don't worry about what u will eat 2morrow. He told the rich man to sale and give up his riches to the poor bc he couldn't serve both nd his trust was in mammon (money). Jermiah says all preist r motiv by money.
@levychandra Yes I agree with you, that SERVING money is wrong. Money itself is not wrong. There shall be no other god before me, is what is says in the word, so if money is before God then it is wrong. That was the case with all the examples you mentioned, so there is no disagreement there, but that does not mean that if you are making money that you are serving mammon. Money is not 'mammon, but when you put money above God it becomes mammon.
@abiola20 I agree with you whole heartedly. Adam was cursed to til the field (work). God knew we didn't appreciate what we did not work for and to much idle times were not good for Adam hince (Eve and work). I believe some of these preachers should multi-task like single women. Work a job, be good fathers, husbands, and serve there community. MLK type men back n day laid down there life and freedom for family and their commun. These modern preachers r getting it to easy. Take me back 2 tent prea
@abiola20 I don't know about that. Interestingly, Jesus family did not have money enough to bury him, a pharisee did. Christ even told the disciples not to take anything for the teaching of the gospel. Paul goes further to state he didn't take advantage financially of people during his missionary work. So what example are preachers like these following, it is not a scriptural example.
It's about time, pimping money and calling it a 'tithe'. Not one occurrence in the New Testament of tithing or even teaching it. Money was never a tithing commodity even in the Old Covenant. Bible doesn't indicate Jesus tithed, but he sure ran out them money changers in the temple.
Tithing keeps us in right standing in the Kingdom of God. Offerings open up the windows of blessings for those who give. It takes finances to operate a ministry, and to be influential. Money=influence, history teaches that if economic boycotts are successful then politicians will negotiate MLKjr recognised this from the problems the civil rights movement faced in albany, ga. Money=power
These charlatan pimps inflict fear upon their people by using Malachi 3:8,"Will a man rob God?" but wont tell the truth as to who was really robbing God. That can be found in Malachi 2:1, "And now, O ye PRIESTS(emphasis mine), this commandment is for you." That's who was stealing the tithe...the priests, things never change. Grace and Peace
Look at Dueteronomy 12:12. The tithes were for the passover only, not for these high places{churches]that we are giveing our money too. If you or creflo dollor want to learn more about tithes and offering let me know. Shalom[peace].
every church is not a high place. we dont have to give our money unless we know for sure that the word of God is being taught, and people are being delivered. The church is where most people learn about the bible. you pay taxes to the government. why not give offerings into a ministry that teaches the word of God.
The goal of these ministries is to have power and influence through wealth. If a man writes a book and people buy it its his book, he wrote it, and did the research for it. If people choose to buy it then my view is its the authors money to do what he wants with it. But using the tithe to get rich is theft. We need to discern if these ministries are teaching truth or a self proclaimed gospel.
Jesus,our supreme example had NO MONEY and had the necessary influence to preach the Gospel. Same for the apostles. This was all given by the power of the Holy Spirit.
Money it the root of all evil. I have always noticed that a rich pastor always ends up deviating from Christ.
judas was the treasurer. So if Jesus had a treasurer then He had money. Also Mary Magdalene was named after the town of Magdala. Her name was not Magdalene but she was called that because she owned her own property in the town of Magdala and had financial influence. She was among those who provided for Jesus and His retinue out of their own resources Luke8:2-3.
Fact is did he used his assets as a power of influence? He came in Jerusalem on a donkey, slept in his disciple's houses (he had no shelter of his own), even had no tomb (Joseph gave his)... Strange for a guy who claimed to a young rich: "if you want to be perfect(i.e. like him), go and sell that thou hast." Using money as THE mean to reach people out is in fact saying the power of the Holy Spirit is not enough.
He is the Lord he did not have to. but its true people will listen to those that have financial wealth. People pay big money for advice from donald trumph, and real estate investors. This same principle works in the Kingdom of God. people just dont listen to po-folks. The Holy Spirit prospers people so they will have influence over their environment.
You got to love the title of this clip hahahahahahaha were are the followers your preaching are swimming in a pool of your money while you suffer still lord help yall
Their true intent and purpose will be revealed after all of this is said and done...How can you justify living such a Luxury Lifstyle when members/families in your church are THE WORKING POOR??? QUESTION WHO IS REALLY CARING FOR GOD'S SHEEP???
lauryndoll - If you used to attend those places you probably have a copy of the scriptures (Bible). Please read that yourself. I was at New Birth 7+ years and can tell you for a fact, that what you were told was NOT the Word of God. You were given twisted words and heresy. All those being investigate preach a FALSE gospel. Not the truth of Christ that you can find in your Bible by just sitting and reading continually.
While I am not a churchgoer anymore, when I did attend church regularly, I went to New Birth and to World Changers. Both churches are huge, and although they may be pulpit pimps, I got the word and inspiration I needed.
My mom also likes Joyce Meyers. she's not my style but that's cool because she also seems real.
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i'm the guy Zachary Tims is testifying about .. i asked him for help in 2010 after i lost my inheritance in 2000, bad marriage, but he couldn't give me $5.
Watch Missionary Johnny's teachings with Personal testimony of dealings with Zachary Tims : Johnny Rice gave $107,000 donations, but Zach wouldn’t help Johnny’s Missions to India Ministry. PASTOR RIVA TIMS, HOWEVER, GAVE A GENEROUS DONATION of $500 & prayers from Majestic Life Church encouraged Johnny departure to India....
johnnyluvsjesus 4 months ago
well fucking shock horror,what have we here a couple of lying thieving pastors stealing from the brain dead,well fucking shock horror.
megamus3 11 months ago
WELL, SPEAK THE TRUTH!
SharonTaylorOnline 1 year ago
Creflo lied. I saw with my own two eyes a recording of him saying he would not release any financial records without a government order subpoena. Which I doubt he will have to worry about due the fact he boldly display's his Masonic affiliation.
ba5rj 1 year ago
.....having $ is not evil you fools, its your relationship with it & to it. I've been rich and ive been poor, i know the difference by now. AND to accuse someone you dont personally know of theft or pimping, without evidence means that your breaking one of THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, dare you bare false witness and then find out you were wrong!?
fotizome 1 year ago
This Eddie Long is one fine scam artist and sodomite. Nothing against sodomy. I love it. But this guy is a vulture, a vermin, scum and scam of the top christian level. THIS kind of child and teen abuse goes on and on within the Church, all of them, and finally this big fatass got caught. Gullible are the assholes who 'worship' at his church. As it says in the Bible, "Give them shit and they'll eat it".
MarcusHolly 1 year ago
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This Eddie Long is one fine scam artist and sodomite. Nothing against sodomy. I love it. But this guy is a vulture, a vermin, scum and scam of the top christian level. THIS kind of child and teen abuse goes on and on within the Church, all of them, and finally this big fatass got caught. Gullible are the assholes who 'worship' at his church. As it says in the Bible, "Give them shit and they'll eat it".
MarcusHolly 1 year ago
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and both are gay
dhaney01 1 year ago
just think if everyone went back to volunteering for greater good. u knw when storms come, homeless need 2 b fed, children tutored nd taught. When people were opressed nd didn't have money they snuck nd learn nd taught 2 others. b4 world created debt wit what God gave free, imagine a world were we used the free nd. The word was freely given to us now we charge for salvation. Jesus parable about leasing 2 the tenants then they kept it charged everyone else then killed the son makes u think.
levychandra 1 year ago
Religious distress is at the same time the expression of the real distress and also the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of the spiritless condition. It is the opium of the people. Nevertheless, Religion is what they give to Slaves, Women and children,
so they obey their masters, husbands and parents. Since, I am neither
one- Therefore, it's meaningless to me....
modo7907 1 year ago
What were the results of these investigations?
sflachuck 1 year ago
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This Eddie Long is one fine scam artist and sodomite. Nothing against sodomy. I love it. But this guy is a vulture, a vermin, scum and scam of the top christian level. THIS kind of child and teen abuse goes on and on within the Church, all of them, and finally this big fatass got caught. Gullible are the assholes who workship at his church. As it says in the Bible, "Give them shit and they'll eat it".
rumpwrestler 1 year ago
In the name of jesus give me all your money you dumb niggas
ptlittl5 1 year ago
Be truthful and stop telling people that the money collected is going to God when you know darn well it goes to your pocket. The fact is is ..... this preaching thing is a money making scam; it is a scam because they are constantly misleading people. Where is your fear of God? you have no fear of God; this is why you do what you do.
ZionaLove1 1 year ago
Can't these dudes catch the bus just like everybody else,or is that they're too damn good,damn fags,
mightyblack1 1 year ago
I personally DO NOT believe that just because you are a pastor and you have a lot of money means that you're a crook. But it does look odd when your pastor has luxury cars and extremely expensive homes while more than a few of your members will go home to a dark house after service because they felt guilted into tithing as opposed to tithing because they think it is right.
RockStarTripleT 1 year ago
IF THESE PREACHERS TEACH THE MEMBERS THAT IF THEY DO NOT WORK AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAMLIES THEM AND THEIR FAMILY WILL NOT SURVIVE, SHOULDN"T THE SAME GO FOR CREFLO DOLLAR EDDIE LONG AND ANY OTHER PREACHER THAT ARE NOT OF RETIREMENT AGE. WHY SHOULD THE HEADS OF FAMLIES TAKE CARE OF THE PASTOR AND THE PASTORS FAMILY AND TAKE CARE HIS OWN FAMILY? EXPLAIN THAT TO ME
ANGELALEE226 1 year ago
I don't see anything wrong with a luxury lifestyle - if it is rightfully earned. I am not judging, but I wonder how much time and money is invested in doing corporal and spiritual acts of mercy and just spending time ministering to the sick and shut-in. If they have done wrong, God will surely repay them. He always bring justice and vindication.
TheSupernova247 1 year ago
Now, if the govement take's the money of these "croocks", would be good if they gave it to the poor and the needy.
philippeclement 1 year ago
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@philippeclement If you love poetry you will love this poem. Search " IS the Cross Christian" It will blow your mind!!!!!!!!! IF you are Deep, are you?
TheTruthUnderTheHood 1 year ago
lock all these mega church pastors up including benny hinn's ass. Religion is mind control.
Tiara71783 1 year ago
If these Pastors R innocent, & have nothing to hide, they shld just explain wht happened... and answer all questions asked 2 them!
sheez 2 years ago 4
@sheez I Agree With You
cce262120 1 year ago
Why don't people start using their gift of a brain, to know they, themself can give and help those around them instead of assuming that the organized cults and crooked religious leader are doing it for them, all the while they are being robbed
coconutgurl707 2 years ago
those who don't know the principal of Gods Kingdom (Light) will talk ignorance (darkness). God will bless those who are obedience! it will cost you your life!
manusiabaru 2 years ago
we are seated in heavenly places,but swinging from the beams or pushing people over for excessive wage packets is wrong.freely you recieve freely give.Jesus pushed no one over ,but only lifted up the poor and needy and fed them with gospel truth in a sandwich
bibliosca 2 years ago
tax evangelist and immigrants
AvEryBadApPLe 2 years ago
hmmm....... is this true?? anyone?
mixerjason 3 years ago
They are gods, they can do whatever they wan`t????
missionoc 3 years ago
I was born to win LOL what kind of name is that?? Sounds like freeflow dolla to me? Who are you anyway? You are that free flow dolla preacher arent you?
quinn127 3 years ago
what how he & his church group is still sending money 2 help Katrina Victims, which your government is claiming everything is ok now. What about giving a million dollars 2 help build a state of the art hospital in Kenya Africa, where they burn alive the babies who mother's are HIV positive? or giving $40,000 to schools in Atlanta, paying for band uniforms, and after school programs which your government has cut funding for. And U got a nerve 2 post a video like this, with out knowing the facts?
IwasBorn2Win 3 years ago
I was speaking in private to this person (IwasBorn2Win), but they've decided to block me, because they did not like that I stand against the false teaching they endorse.
So I'm blocking them from here starting now.
IndependentConserv 3 years ago
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@IndependentConserv If you love poetry you will love this poem. Search " IS the Cross Christian" It will blow your mind!!!!!!!!! IF you are Deep, are you?
TheTruthUnderTheHood 1 year ago
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@IwasBorn2Win If you love poetry you will love this poem. Search " IS the Cross Christian" It will blow your mind!!!!!!!!! IF you are Deep, are you?
TheTruthUnderTheHood 1 year ago
@IwasBorn2Win you are right !!! that is why i hate republicans & conservatives, i am a hurricane Katrina survivor. they think that all help should come from churches groups & people sending money. they think that the government shouldn't give any help to anyone. we live in the richest country, i think that the government should always help the people in need & not the churches doing everything themselves. because with church groups things are always "LIMITED !!! "
unelmitchell 1 year ago
@IwasBorn2Win The money Dollar gives away are pennie compared 2 what he is recieving, If the spirit Of god was aroung him dont you think Atlanta would be a very Good place to live, but there is so much crime around that boy's church its pathetic to think he has any connection with the lord.
jurnagin 1 year ago
Yall are trippin on here. Get a grip and some sense!so quick 2 throw stones but yet fail 2 look at the real story & legal paperwork. U all need 2 know the facts. My brother who is the lead attorney for the IRS, worked very close on this case. Chuck Grassely who made this public attack on these preachers chracters did so with intent of harm and No just reason . The senator was out of order and caught on tape doing and recieving under the table bonus deals to lie on this religious ministers.
IwasBorn2Win 3 years ago
if this senator wanted 2 know these church's income,he knows 2 pull their IRS audits with the IRS- non-profit audit office. ALL ministries, espcially Eddie Long, Joyce Myer, and TD Jakes, have passed ALL legal & Audit investigation according 2 the IRS. I can't wait 2 November so I can vote this right wing racist NUT ( & I'm white), out of office. This senator can't stand to see blacks, latinos, jews, do economically well. They always have 2 associate a well 2 do minister with pimping. please!
IwasBorn2Win 3 years ago
Why is not TD Jakes included or mentioned? Take a good look
asabizzybee 3 years ago
I am not 4 sure what your beef is with Jakes,but whatever! TD Jakes was on the list, of this ridiculous request by a right wing republican who has mentioned in his interviews that churches does not need to talk about economic empowerment. In other words, let miniorty church folks stay dumb and broke. Please if either ministry was in illegal standing, the government would have shut thier churches down long time ago.
IwasBorn2Win 3 years ago
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akdraw1 3 years ago
pimps and whores in the pulpit, send them to prison
CASINOLEO3 3 years ago
Casino, I have better idea! Why don't we expose you. what should we send u to jail for? you might night pimping in the pulpit, but you got dirty skeltons in your closet. I say we all should investigate on you! Since I work for the IRS, why don't we do some back ground check on you.
IwasBorn2Win 3 years ago
straight pimpin
americaISsoRACISTS 3 years ago
Eddie Long has been photographed receiving numerous head-2-face-2-chest-hugz from George Bush. The "brotherhood" is "multiracial"
TubeGuest5178 3 years ago
SolideoGloriafella you go from video to video trying make these life changing men who are healing people and saving peoples lives look bad. Sir do you have hate or hurt inside of you? I have noticed on all these videos you go around to each one shouting out these same scriptures trying justify your stones being throwed..
John 8:7
Inhisword08 3 years ago
The only god these shameless pimps serve is Mammon, and you do nothing to further the cause of your Christ by following behind these moneychangers and false prophets.
sinistralwing 3 years ago 3
"There is great gain in godliness with contentment, for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world. But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content." (1Timothy6:6-8)
But then he warned against the desire to be rich.
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago
"Those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs"
(1 Timothy 6:6-10).
Why would you want to develop a ministry that encourages people to pierce themselves with many pangs and plunge themselves into ruin and destruction?
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago
Why would you ENCOURAGE such things that we are warned against desiring in Scripture...
Instead of forstering a desire for riches in Christians.......Teach Christians to DESIRE GOD more than they DESIRE SIN...
but people desires to be rich, and run to prosperity preachers::::
Dealing with sin is in a priority in these churches. Purpose, destiny, and wealth, and riches are a HUGE priority in these churches.
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago
All of the "God wants Christians to be rich" people never can answer the question why Paul was not rich, the Apostles were not rich, and the 1st century Christians were not rich..
THey just bypass the question and spew garbage,
(DJisforreal)......Still waiting on that answer...
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago
Acts 8:20
But Peter said to him, "May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money!
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago
Are any of you Surprised that the Media, and this Senator are blasting this Pastors. The real Question is why and who profits from seeing them fall. I ues to think just as some of you do, however after realizing all these people who are being watched like a Hawk Preach at least 3- 4 times aweek, reach Millions all over the World with the Gospel and I know that Joyce Meyors does FREE Conferances several times a year. So let all the Accuser Of the Breathren Stop Hating.
beckyvboo 4 years ago
This is to Gareof name someone in the bible who was poor and still had people give their lives to God.Don't say Jesus because he was a carpenter and capenters made a lot of money even now, don't say Peter because he was a tax collector so.God made Job poor to show Job the he need God and when Job realized that God made him rich again So don't scripture out of context because of your diagreements or your disbelief in God's Doctrine.You study the bible and tell me where God said we should be poor.
djisforreal2 4 years ago
Ok if God just wants us to be rich in him... give all of your money away and GIVE your car and house away. Just worship God and try to spread the gospel broke busted and disgusted. I'll tel you what happens next you become angry with God because you are miserable. You would curse God and try to get your stuff back. Don't be ignorant people. If God wanted us to be broke and homeless Joseph would have been second to pharoh and David wouldn't have been king. God blesses is people don't get it wrong
djisforreal2 4 years ago
DJisforreal2,
Just because people dont agree with the "God wants people to be rich" philosophy doesnt mean that they believe that God wants people to be poor...
God wants His people to be content with what they have...(1Tim6)
If GOd wants Christians rich... What happened to Paul, the Apostles, 1st century Christians, and modern Christians in the eastern nation eduring hardship?
"Theyve never heard of 1 Corinthians 4, cause they say they cant imagine Gods people being poor."
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago
Poor people can give too. Before you say, 'it takes wealth to be able to bless others...' Please read...
Mark 12:42
A poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, which amount to a cent.
Calling His disciples to Him, He said to them, "Truly I say to you, this poor widow put in more than all the contributors to the treasury;
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago
2 Corinithians 8:2-3
Out of the most severe trial, their overflowing joy and their extreme poverty welled up in rich generosity. For I testify that they gave as much as they were able, and even beyond their ability. Entirely on their own,
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago
Don't take that out of context.That woman gave her last in faith for more.The others were giving outta neccessity and not faith.God said he wants to prosper us in more ways than one,but when your prosperous people tend to look and think differently of you.The wealth of the wicked is laid up for the just,but the just have to have to have aggresive faith to get is and it's the passive people angry with the ones with aggressive faith.Those pastors have aggressive faith.Don't be mad if you don't.
djisforreal2 3 years ago
"God wants us to be content..."If we were to be content we wouldn't have to renew our minds everyday.He would tell us to seek his face.He wouldn't have told us to be fruitful and multiply.He wouldn't have told us to subdue the earth and everything in it.Paul became rich in Alexandria after he lost everything on a boat as a prisoner.The people of alexandria blessed him.They need foundation to build on without foundation a structure cannot stand.They became content...Sound Familiar!!!!
djisforreal2 3 years ago
1 Tim 6
men of depraved mind and deprived of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain.
But godliness actually is a means of great gain when accompanied by contentment.
WHat Bible verse are you referring to?:
There is no such account from Scripture that tells that Paul went to Alexandria and became wealthy and rich...
But 1Corinthians 4----Paul did write...
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago
1 Tim 6
For we have brought nothing into the world, so we cannot take anything out of it either.
If we have food and covering, with these we shall be content.
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago
Jesus said, "How difficult it will be for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God!" (Mark 10:23)
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God." (Mark 10:24)
My question for prosperity preachers is: Why would you want to develop a ministry focus that makes it harder for people to enter heaven?
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago
BUSTED!!! BYE BYE creflo and all the graduates from oru. cya slowly fading
MIKOMI846 4 years ago
Know what they say about a "fool and his money..."
sagondo 4 years ago
God's moveing the sauls and Elis out of the way to make room for the Davids.
christophorM 4 years ago
Everyone of them mention are all false teachers. No problem with that one. The poor yet are not any less guilty, bibles are everywhere, all you need do is read. Most churches will give you one if you ask free of charge.Plus God gave ALL and innate ability to discern lies from truth.
Primetime7 4 years ago
I Timothy 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain. 6:7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. 6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
WhirL37 4 years ago
Jesus clearly warned us about false prophets in the last days. The only richness we need is in him.
When its all said done, What did you do for Jesus?
BigFishIreland 4 years ago
They are afraid of his power. He is one of many churches that stepped in and helped in the time of Katrina. The government want these events to cause failure quicker so it's tough when the churches step in like that.
rafamous 4 years ago
God's Word says he has chosen the poor of this world to be rich in faith & Jesus said: it is hard for a rich man to get into heaven... (so, who do you think wants you to be rich?) but false teachers must increase in the last days before Christ returns, but it sure is hard to watch ordinary folks get ripped off in the name of Jesus, by these liars. Folks need to study God's Word & they will immunize themselves against false doctrine
gareof 4 years ago
Gee, should be surprised by any of this? Hell No!!
chaserl 4 years ago
Is God double-minded? On one hand, Jesus says WOE UNTO YOU WHO ARE RICH(Lk 6:24), yet Christians say "God wants us rich." On one hand, Jesus says, You CANNOT serve God and mammon(Mat 6:24)," yet christians say, "God wants us rich." Jesus says, "Lay NOT up for yourselves treasures upon this earth, but lay up treasures in HEAVEN(Mt 6:19), yet christians say, "God wants us rich." Jesus says, "How hardly shall they that have riches enter the kingdom of God(Mk 10:23), yet, "God wants us rich."
blackraid 4 years ago 2
Blackraid..
You nailed it!
The message is all about riches and not the Gospel.
They will perish with their money.
Oh and God does want us rich... RICH IN HIM.
Derringersummers 4 years ago 2
You have to really think about If Jesus had the 12 disciple leave EVERYTHING to follow him Jesus had to be making money to support them. Having money is not wrong it is the LOVE of money that is wrong. Tithe & offering is not Demanded but it's how we are blessed so we can further the Kingdom. Let's not be pulled by every little piece of news that crosses our path. We must discern the truth through the Holy Spirit & not believe Everything on the nightly news!
abiola20 4 years ago
Telling people they should give to expect earthly reward is WRONG. Jesus and the apostles lived like homeless people Matthew 8:20 & 1 Corinthians 4:11. If those pimps did not LOVE money, they would not LIE about what people should give it for and they would NOT retain so much for themselves, II Peter 2.
And the apostles NEVER told anyone to pay 10%. Tithe is obsolete, old covenant, not for the church and was never about money.
IndependentConserv 4 years ago 3
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TheTruthUnderTheHood 1 year ago
@IndependentConserv Simple enough, the gospel says anything that you ask in Jesus Christ name with faith, you shall receive. James goes on to say the same regarding receiving from anything from God only by unwavering faith, not by giving. Giving is sign of Charity. Charity is a fruit of the spirit of the holy spirit. Notice, a fruit. You have to believe and have faith to receive anything from God, that is the first requirement.
FitnessMinded 11 months ago
@IndependentConserv Faith in Jesus Christ first and asking in his name first and only. Love seed, tithe, offering mean nothing without developing your congregations faith only in God first. If it is given without faith in God, it's sin, bottom line
FitnessMinded 11 months ago
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chim80 3 months ago
AND... Jesus had enough money to let THE THEIF, TAXMAN JUDAS hold the money!
bat5mello 4 years ago
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TheTruthUnderTheHood 1 year ago
@abiola20 the word said you can't serve God and mammon (Satan god of money). the words says Pharoah's wife financed Jesus. Judas was an example of what happens when u serve mammon. That is why Jesus told them to leave it behind. If Jesus turned 5 loaves of bread into fish then he said don't worry about what u will eat 2morrow. He told the rich man to sale and give up his riches to the poor bc he couldn't serve both nd his trust was in mammon (money). Jermiah says all preist r motiv by money.
levychandra 1 year ago
@levychandra Yes I agree with you, that SERVING money is wrong. Money itself is not wrong. There shall be no other god before me, is what is says in the word, so if money is before God then it is wrong. That was the case with all the examples you mentioned, so there is no disagreement there, but that does not mean that if you are making money that you are serving mammon. Money is not 'mammon, but when you put money above God it becomes mammon.
abiola20 1 year ago
@abiola20 I agree with you whole heartedly. Adam was cursed to til the field (work). God knew we didn't appreciate what we did not work for and to much idle times were not good for Adam hince (Eve and work). I believe some of these preachers should multi-task like single women. Work a job, be good fathers, husbands, and serve there community. MLK type men back n day laid down there life and freedom for family and their commun. These modern preachers r getting it to easy. Take me back 2 tent prea
levychandra 1 year ago
@abiola20 I don't know about that. Interestingly, Jesus family did not have money enough to bury him, a pharisee did. Christ even told the disciples not to take anything for the teaching of the gospel. Paul goes further to state he didn't take advantage financially of people during his missionary work. So what example are preachers like these following, it is not a scriptural example.
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MrSokitumi0007 5 months ago
Jesus said, "Blessed are the rich."
Richardgwm 4 years ago
It's about time, pimping money and calling it a 'tithe'. Not one occurrence in the New Testament of tithing or even teaching it. Money was never a tithing commodity even in the Old Covenant. Bible doesn't indicate Jesus tithed, but he sure ran out them money changers in the temple.
BibleTruth 4 years ago
Tithing keeps us in right standing in the Kingdom of God. Offerings open up the windows of blessings for those who give. It takes finances to operate a ministry, and to be influential. Money=influence, history teaches that if economic boycotts are successful then politicians will negotiate MLKjr recognised this from the problems the civil rights movement faced in albany, ga. Money=power
mrvlslight 4 years ago
These charlatan pimps inflict fear upon their people by using Malachi 3:8,"Will a man rob God?" but wont tell the truth as to who was really robbing God. That can be found in Malachi 2:1, "And now, O ye PRIESTS(emphasis mine), this commandment is for you." That's who was stealing the tithe...the priests, things never change. Grace and Peace
BibleTruth 4 years ago
Thats absolutly right it was the Priests during that time that stole the tithe, and true again many are doing it today.
mrvlslight 4 years ago
Look at Dueteronomy 12:12. The tithes were for the passover only, not for these high places{churches]that we are giveing our money too. If you or creflo dollor want to learn more about tithes and offering let me know. Shalom[peace].
muteehall 4 years ago
every church is not a high place. we dont have to give our money unless we know for sure that the word of God is being taught, and people are being delivered. The church is where most people learn about the bible. you pay taxes to the government. why not give offerings into a ministry that teaches the word of God.
mrvlslight 4 years ago
The goal of these ministries is to have power and influence through wealth. If a man writes a book and people buy it its his book, he wrote it, and did the research for it. If people choose to buy it then my view is its the authors money to do what he wants with it. But using the tithe to get rich is theft. We need to discern if these ministries are teaching truth or a self proclaimed gospel.
mrvlslight 4 years ago
Jesus,our supreme example had NO MONEY and had the necessary influence to preach the Gospel. Same for the apostles. This was all given by the power of the Holy Spirit.
Money it the root of all evil. I have always noticed that a rich pastor always ends up deviating from Christ.
jpgaspard 4 years ago
judas was the treasurer. So if Jesus had a treasurer then He had money. Also Mary Magdalene was named after the town of Magdala. Her name was not Magdalene but she was called that because she owned her own property in the town of Magdala and had financial influence. She was among those who provided for Jesus and His retinue out of their own resources Luke8:2-3.
mrvlslight 4 years ago
Fact is did he used his assets as a power of influence? He came in Jerusalem on a donkey, slept in his disciple's houses (he had no shelter of his own), even had no tomb (Joseph gave his)... Strange for a guy who claimed to a young rich: "if you want to be perfect(i.e. like him), go and sell that thou hast." Using money as THE mean to reach people out is in fact saying the power of the Holy Spirit is not enough.
jpgaspard 4 years ago
He is the Lord he did not have to. but its true people will listen to those that have financial wealth. People pay big money for advice from donald trumph, and real estate investors. This same principle works in the Kingdom of God. people just dont listen to po-folks. The Holy Spirit prospers people so they will have influence over their environment.
mrvlslight 4 years ago
2Pe 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you:
BibleTruth 4 years ago
You got to love the title of this clip hahahahahahaha were are the followers your preaching are swimming in a pool of your money while you suffer still lord help yall
mimismith 4 years ago
Their true intent and purpose will be revealed after all of this is said and done...How can you justify living such a Luxury Lifstyle when members/families in your church are THE WORKING POOR??? QUESTION WHO IS REALLY CARING FOR GOD'S SHEEP???
hyssop2007 4 years ago 5
lauryndoll - If you used to attend those places you probably have a copy of the scriptures (Bible). Please read that yourself. I was at New Birth 7+ years and can tell you for a fact, that what you were told was NOT the Word of God. You were given twisted words and heresy. All those being investigate preach a FALSE gospel. Not the truth of Christ that you can find in your Bible by just sitting and reading continually.
IndependentConserv 4 years ago
@IndependentConserv They(Dollar and Long) have their own bibles too???
Domini478 1 year ago
Wow... this should be interesting.
While I am not a churchgoer anymore, when I did attend church regularly, I went to New Birth and to World Changers. Both churches are huge, and although they may be pulpit pimps, I got the word and inspiration I needed.
My mom also likes Joyce Meyers. she's not my style but that's cool because she also seems real.
I guess we'll see...!
lauryndoll 4 years ago