It's been a wildly successful & friendly competition since the early 1990! Both Fish and Marillion know that they play-off each other in the media & fan bases. I mean - they know there's a kind of rivalry, and without that rivalry, neither Fish on his own nor Marillion with H would have been as successful as they are!
Genius marketing & showmanship on both garden parties. ;-)
Wow, had no idea that Marillion did any Fish era stuff with H any more. Must be quite rare I imagine, seeing as they've got like 20+ years of music they've written without him that they could play instead.
Man! I mean, I could understand the anger about Peter leaving Genesis and these becoming a Poppy band. But why are people angry about the voluntary departure of Fish from Marillion, and the rest of the band keeping the legacy of tasteful and creative music with Hogarth?
Because this is far below Hogath's level. I mean listen to it...thank God nowadays their music is more mature, like a good wine becomes better over the years. Let mr Dick do what he does best, paint his face and playing a jester (poor Gabriel immitation). In the meanwhile Marillion does what they can do best and that is making good music with Steve Hogarth.
H is pretty much acting like a dick, laughing and smiling throughout this song. This is a song with pretty serious subject matter; when Fish sang it w/ the band, he was very focused and acted out the part of the protagonist. Plus, as others have said, once the whole band joins in, WAAAAAAY too fucking fast of a tempo. Overall = D+ at BEST,
@dufortrph I'm sorry but these lyrics just scream prog masturbation and i've never taken them seriously. It's a great song no matter who's singing it Rothery makes the song what it is not Mr Dick
@pinkfloydrule27 Jesus, what a joke this band has been since Hogarth took over... having the audience sing along? Feel like I'm watching a Jonas Brothers video...
@dufortrph I see no 12 year old girls in the audience. tbh i've never even heard a Jonas Brothers song so you I wouldn't know much about your statement there
Great Band and Great Song but... WITH FISH! This is not "Script"... this is something like... I don't know what. Please, Marillion with Fish is Progressive Rock - Marillion without Fish is something like Banal Pop! Fish and Marillion 4EVER!
@whitweedug there are songs that he just don't sing, and i think that's a good thing - like: Grendel, Market Square Heroes - not because those songs are "iconic", but they're in a totally different key to H's standard... But i really loved Script, Kayleigh in H's version... White Russian as well!
I am a huge Fish fan and also a massive Hogarth fan...I'm also totally honest. We all sing along at gigs. Fish initially used to hold the mic out for us out of enthusiasm, but from '86 onwards because he simply can't hit the notes. That is something that Hogarth cannot be accused of. As a vocalist, he's superb and he makes sure he can do his job. He has alot to be thanked for, Marillion only had one album left in them with Fish before it would have collapsed, he would have died on the road.
If you forced me to choose between H or Fish, I'd say that I prefer Fish overall, however H does a phenomenal job with this very difficult song. I think he's really quite underrated as a vocalist.
@AcidPuppy Although i am a huge fish fan, h has done some great songs with the "new" marillion, angelina for example, however, they really should not allow him to crucify fish classics like this. Its painfull to listen to.
About time Marillion re-visited their early early past. How long before Hogarth tackles "Grendel"? Pleasantly surprised how well he sang a song that is so associated with his predecessor
Although I like this version of "Script", I feel quite...weird, when I hear a song, which to me is strongly connected with Fish, sang by Steve Hogarth. But, as I said, I like Hogarth's version too. (Besides, I think H is one of the singers who are able to sing anything and they always do it well ;) )
I love H and love Derek, diferent styles, diferent voices, different feelings, H voice i like an angel singing, the passion of Fish is great, it´s good to hear H singing fish songs, and this is one of the most greatest songs of the hystory, feels great in H voice.
I can understand that you are at a loss about my comment as it was not a reaction to your comment, but a general comment. I just picked yours to react!
I agree almost completely with you althought I don't want Fish to sing any song as he can't bring the quality he had in the 80's, H still can though.
Why the Fish versus Hogarth blarney after all these years? Simple. Name one song with H that even remotely comes close to this nine minutes of musical perfection. There is none.
well that is entirely a matter of opinion. Whilst I love Script, there are plenty of songs from the Hogarth era that match it, at the very least. This Strange Engine and Interior Lulu to name just 2.
I must say that this song really suits well to H's vocal - it sounds really great, as epic, as Fish's performance were. I prefer Hogarth, but I must admit, that they are both really awesome and outstanding artists
omg.. after all these years Hogarth been in Marillion this shit still goes on? YEAH! Hogarth is no Fish, but he is a damn good singer! Has his own style, is own ways of performing, Sure Fish has the voice, but not the charm. I saw fish play not so long ago, he is more stiff and stand still then a rock. But dont take me wrong, He is a good singer. But just get over it! Hogarth is the singer for Marillion! appriciate what he does instead
I love that!!! I've seen Marillion on stage a lot of times since 1994, but they never playd "Script". Was it filmed on one of the M.-Weekends? It was not 2007 though.
I think it's great personally. And I like all eras of Marillion, and to quote the big man himself, Steve Hogarth does his job 'very well'. Good enough for me.
2) It's not totally Fishes song - he only wrote the lyrics. The largest writing credit has to go to the rest of the band.
3) He's not letting the crowd sing because he can't be arsed, he's letting them sing because they want to sing.
Dont't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Fish both when he was with Marillion and his solo work. But he still plays the old Marillion classics so why shouldn't Marillion?
FloydPink You have said what all of us, Marillion fans of both eras have said all this time: Get over it!! even Fish got over with leaving the band. Why not the rest of the fans accept this fact and embrace this era (C'mom it's a long time) and enjoy the music, it's still good!!
Sure thing! No one ever complains that Ian Mosley is playing Mick Pointer's song. H is Marillion's singer since 1989. If people hate H they should only stop listening to him and stop complaining.
Cool...I'm not the fan who gets into the Fish/Hogarth thing, I like both versions of the band but am always curious to see how Hogarth handles the "old stuff"...Thanks for the post!
Where's Fish????
renumeratedfrog 3 weeks ago
Which yeas was this DVD made in ? I suppose 2009 or ?
dilbertanas 2 months ago
@dilbertanas WIsh You Were Here DVD. Relesased 2005 march, out of print. This song recorded at Marillion Weekend 2003.
strategiasbeci 1 month ago
amazing band .. fish a h the soul of marillion
Sirgreyfox2011 2 months ago
not right, just leave the fish era marillion songs to fish, hogarth isnt worth a ....
jasonctennant 3 months ago
yes, yes mr H - you don't have to sing...
cruelhaku 3 months ago
I'm a huge Marillion-with-fish fan, but I thank H he wants to perform the old stuff.
Why is it not good ? Because it's not Fish ? I think H does a great performance with a great song. get your mind open for this !
broes1966 4 months ago
not bad but this song IS fish
chris72arg 5 months ago
GRANDE MARILLION UN TEMAZOOOO (Y)
Uruqui 5 months ago
It's been a wildly successful & friendly competition since the early 1990! Both Fish and Marillion know that they play-off each other in the media & fan bases. I mean - they know there's a kind of rivalry, and without that rivalry, neither Fish on his own nor Marillion with H would have been as successful as they are!
Genius marketing & showmanship on both garden parties. ;-)
DrChebutykin 6 months ago
Oh, my good God! Look at Steve at 7:48. He's totally INTO this song!
vlad1gavrilchik 7 months ago
@Jamesyctfc
Yeah and napoleon should be elected as the next president of France.
cermisan 8 months ago
Fish should return and Hogarth stand down!!!
jamesyctfc 8 months ago 2
Wow, had no idea that Marillion did any Fish era stuff with H any more. Must be quite rare I imagine, seeing as they've got like 20+ years of music they've written without him that they could play instead.
xeractus 9 months ago
@vivelavidarocka
Amen to that!
cermisan 10 months ago
Man! I mean, I could understand the anger about Peter leaving Genesis and these becoming a Poppy band. But why are people angry about the voluntary departure of Fish from Marillion, and the rest of the band keeping the legacy of tasteful and creative music with Hogarth?
vivelavidarocka 10 months ago
@dufortrph
Because this is far below Hogath's level. I mean listen to it...thank God nowadays their music is more mature, like a good wine becomes better over the years. Let mr Dick do what he does best, paint his face and playing a jester (poor Gabriel immitation). In the meanwhile Marillion does what they can do best and that is making good music with Steve Hogarth.
cermisan 10 months ago
Only one word, really - dire.
SharonW64 11 months ago
Fish is gone. Long live Marillion!!!
cermisan 11 months ago
@cermisan
Er no, he's not actually. He's far from gone, he's just not in Marillion anymore.
SharonW64 11 months ago
@SharonW64
I didn't say that he was dead?!
cermisan 7 months ago
F*ck H!
KherZhul 1 year ago
Without Fish its not the same
Defender80s 1 year ago 5
H is pretty much acting like a dick, laughing and smiling throughout this song. This is a song with pretty serious subject matter; when Fish sang it w/ the band, he was very focused and acted out the part of the protagonist. Plus, as others have said, once the whole band joins in, WAAAAAAY too fucking fast of a tempo. Overall = D+ at BEST,
dufortrph 1 year ago
@dufortrph
Couldn't have put it better myself.
SharonW64 11 months ago
@dufortrph I'm sorry but these lyrics just scream prog masturbation and i've never taken them seriously. It's a great song no matter who's singing it Rothery makes the song what it is not Mr Dick
pinkfloydrule27 10 months ago
@pinkfloydrule27 Jesus, what a joke this band has been since Hogarth took over... having the audience sing along? Feel like I'm watching a Jonas Brothers video...
dufortrph 10 months ago
@dufortrph I see no 12 year old girls in the audience. tbh i've never even heard a Jonas Brothers song so you I wouldn't know much about your statement there
pinkfloydrule27 10 months ago
Great Band and Great Song but... WITH FISH! This is not "Script"... this is something like... I don't know what. Please, Marillion with Fish is Progressive Rock - Marillion without Fish is something like Banal Pop! Fish and Marillion 4EVER!
GuCaRix 1 year ago 2
Fantastic! Hot audience, great song - thanks
mariangeorgiev1 1 year ago
I would just love to hear H do something like Chelsea Monday or maybe Incubus but I thinks its highly unlikely.
whitweedug 1 year ago
Steve H is so good at the old songs...I wish he would sing more of them
whitweedug 1 year ago
@whitweedug there are songs that he just don't sing, and i think that's a good thing - like: Grendel, Market Square Heroes - not because those songs are "iconic", but they're in a totally different key to H's standard... But i really loved Script, Kayleigh in H's version... White Russian as well!
GrendelPL 1 year ago
H makes the portrayal of this song a.. joke.. tacky and very unprofessional like.
I know Marillion B-Team have to play it for the fans, but for the Jesters sake, don't make it a joke.
To end.. I have never liked Marillion post Fish. I just don't and I just can't, don't ask me why.. the answer will only be.. because of H.
AcidPuppy 1 year ago
H is a fantastic vocalist,i love his voice,he sing it in his own style,it´s difficult but not bad,better than Fish today with his damage voice!
yove381 1 year ago
I say its a real honor to their fan to still play live :P
sabourinrock 1 year ago
when and where?
its good to see they havent abandoned the fish era stuff completely
cruiser277777 1 year ago
I am a huge Fish fan and also a massive Hogarth fan...I'm also totally honest. We all sing along at gigs. Fish initially used to hold the mic out for us out of enthusiasm, but from '86 onwards because he simply can't hit the notes. That is something that Hogarth cannot be accused of. As a vocalist, he's superb and he makes sure he can do his job. He has alot to be thanked for, Marillion only had one album left in them with Fish before it would have collapsed, he would have died on the road.
MGBOMAR 1 year ago
Great performance, great song, great band
mariangeorgiev1 1 year ago
H is a legend!
MARBLES81 1 year ago
If you forced me to choose between H or Fish, I'd say that I prefer Fish overall, however H does a phenomenal job with this very difficult song. I think he's really quite underrated as a vocalist.
passionatearts 1 year ago
Stary kawałek.Nowe wykonanie.Polska kocha Marillion! :D
maxx499 1 year ago
esta cancion me hizo subir al cielo
elmarillion 2 years ago
I live in barking and my foreign neighbours loved this! help!!!
PJSouthall 2 years ago
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mfush 2 years ago
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What is that dork singing a song that has been written by king! Should be shot!
LouiseHayward36 2 years ago
So what, just because Fish left the band 20 years ago they should stop playing all these great tracks?
I agree that h isn't Fish, but Fish isn't h either, he brings something else to the songs.
MrLosfuegos 2 years ago 16
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davegto67 2 years ago
Fish - bitter and melodramatic
h - melancholy and melodramatic
Both are great.
When you're stuck in the past you miss out on great things going on right now. You gotta grow with the band.
inheritedmemory 2 years ago 5
Good lord. I never knew until now that h had sung this. Live and learn. :)
suncrashuk 2 years ago
Hogarth made inexcusable miskake trying sing that song, but the audience were wonderful!
martuhasz 2 years ago
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H = pretentious prick
Fish = Genius
Marillion without Fish is a joke.. rubbish.
Fact. End.
AcidPuppy 2 years ago
Marillion without Fish is another Band.
Markcello 2 years ago 3
Indeed.. and to those that gave the 2 negative votes... :p
I don't care, I was there in the beginning.
AcidPuppy 2 years ago
Where won't help reason prompt voice heart
Stoupa1007 2 years ago
agree.
Philmacrakken 2 years ago
couldn't agree more!
rharris2727 2 years ago
@AcidPuppy Although i am a huge fish fan, h has done some great songs with the "new" marillion, angelina for example, however, they really should not allow him to crucify fish classics like this. Its painfull to listen to.
jagxjrlbl75l 5 months ago
When was this?
Djasper321 2 years ago
i hope he never try to sing grendel
sanderpoel1977 2 years ago 5
Me too
martuhasz 2 years ago
it's a fish song
sanderpoel1977 2 years ago 2
A great song and a great voice of H... yes we love him!!!!
Blissgtastunting 2 years ago
About time Marillion re-visited their early early past. How long before Hogarth tackles "Grendel"? Pleasantly surprised how well he sang a song that is so associated with his predecessor
Ruaidhrimac 2 years ago
Although I like this version of "Script", I feel quite...weird, when I hear a song, which to me is strongly connected with Fish, sang by Steve Hogarth. But, as I said, I like Hogarth's version too. (Besides, I think H is one of the singers who are able to sing anything and they always do it well ;) )
mathaios87 2 years ago
One of the most greatest songs in the world, feels great in H voice, different styles, different voices, different feelings, both great
pokianchis 2 years ago
I love H and love Derek, diferent styles, diferent voices, different feelings, H voice i like an angel singing, the passion of Fish is great, it´s good to hear H singing fish songs, and this is one of the most greatest songs of the hystory, feels great in H voice.
pokianchis 2 years ago
Dear finniusmknoll,
I can understand that you are at a loss about my comment as it was not a reaction to your comment, but a general comment. I just picked yours to react!
I agree almost completely with you althought I don't want Fish to sing any song as he can't bring the quality he had in the 80's, H still can though.
I'm sorry if I offended you in anyway!
breakneck1975 2 years ago
WHY compare Fish with H???
Completely different singers.
Compare the songs they wrote for my sake, but not their capacity to sing.
H is, by far, the better (technically) singer of the two. Fish had a special sound to it.
I say had, because nowadays Fish sounds worse than my 6 month old son. H sounds still great.
breakneck1975 2 years ago
grande marillion y la calidad la mantiene con hogart saludos desde chile y ojala vuelvan algun día saludos
gzloneoprog 2 years ago
Brilliant live version. The crowd was excellent. Where was this concert held?
ajittffcure 2 years ago
Why the Fish versus Hogarth blarney after all these years? Simple. Name one song with H that even remotely comes close to this nine minutes of musical perfection. There is none.
gtr80sman 2 years ago
Oh... I'm not taking your opinion, but you're wrong. Examples of Hogarth's 9 minute and more songs
This Strange Engine (around 15 minutes)
A Few Words For The Dead (around 10 minutes)
Neverland (12 minutes)
The Invisible Man (13 minutes)
Happiness Is The Road (10 minutes)
I like Fish, I like H. I'm not arrogant or foolish enough to compare two totally different personalities and characters, however.
CzechGuardian 2 years ago
well that is entirely a matter of opinion. Whilst I love Script, there are plenty of songs from the Hogarth era that match it, at the very least. This Strange Engine and Interior Lulu to name just 2.
CraigyT 2 years ago
i really enjoyed it! brill
lostinbass4 2 years ago
not quite as powerful as with Fish, but i love it, first time hearing a version with Hogarth : )
dapadau 3 years ago
I must say that this song really suits well to H's vocal - it sounds really great, as epic, as Fish's performance were. I prefer Hogarth, but I must admit, that they are both really awesome and outstanding artists
rysiu16 3 years ago 3
"h" is no Fish !!!!!!!!!!!
mengenstrom 3 years ago
o rly?
beRsek8 3 years ago
If you are gonna do it then do it right! Use your own style but sing the right words.............
JestersTear1 2 years ago
omg.. after all these years Hogarth been in Marillion this shit still goes on? YEAH! Hogarth is no Fish, but he is a damn good singer! Has his own style, is own ways of performing, Sure Fish has the voice, but not the charm. I saw fish play not so long ago, he is more stiff and stand still then a rock. But dont take me wrong, He is a good singer. But just get over it! Hogarth is the singer for Marillion! appriciate what he does instead
Exoradus 2 years ago
Not bad but why does he still (still!) change the bloody words.
"In the silence of my shame the MUTE (not bloody FOOL)"
He has done this since he joined!
Apart from that he does a good job.
Yes - I am an anal git! :-)
JestersTear1 3 years ago 3
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hOGARTH SUCKS!!!
Alxscode 3 years ago
I love that!!! I've seen Marillion on stage a lot of times since 1994, but they never playd "Script". Was it filmed on one of the M.-Weekends? It was not 2007 though.
SvenGlueckskeks 3 years ago
Yep - must agree that Rothery just slipped into God like status there. Good vocal from Hogarth as well - suits him this track !!
whitts1314 3 years ago 2
Rothery may be the world's greatest guitarist!
Plante80 3 years ago
O Hogart é demais, qualquer música da era Fish que ele gravar fica sensacional com uma voz incrivel
deisemerie 3 years ago
Marillion = God.
(With Fish or h.)
BastionOfFinality 3 years ago
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agreed H sucks BRING BACK FISH. in fact crawl over broken glass and beg him to come home. I LOVE FISH
yugiohmaster2000 3 years ago
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FISH FISH FISH FISH, HOGGY SUCKS
fellini1470 3 years ago
Sorry, If I listen to this song, rothery makes it an original, but Hogarth makes it a cover version. Bet the audience had some fun - so should we.
andressen 3 years ago
I think it's great personally. And I like all eras of Marillion, and to quote the big man himself, Steve Hogarth does his job 'very well'. Good enough for me.
beachedcamel 3 years ago
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C'mon Hogarth give it up..you're OK,but you sure as Hell ain't no FISH. Do your own thing,leave the "classics" alone-they don't become you.
agelessguy 3 years ago
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NO NO NO
1) he's doing it all wrong
2)It's fish's song
3)He's letting the crowd sing half of it for him coz he can't be arsed!
grendel151 3 years ago
YES YES YES
1) He's not Fish and he's not trying to be him.
2) It's not totally Fishes song - he only wrote the lyrics. The largest writing credit has to go to the rest of the band.
3) He's not letting the crowd sing because he can't be arsed, he's letting them sing because they want to sing.
Dont't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Fish both when he was with Marillion and his solo work. But he still plays the old Marillion classics so why shouldn't Marillion?
floydpink64 3 years ago 27
FloydPink You have said what all of us, Marillion fans of both eras have said all this time: Get over it!! even Fish got over with leaving the band. Why not the rest of the fans accept this fact and embrace this era (C'mom it's a long time) and enjoy the music, it's still good!!
vivelavidarocka 3 years ago 4
Sure thing! No one ever complains that Ian Mosley is playing Mick Pointer's song. H is Marillion's singer since 1989. If people hate H they should only stop listening to him and stop complaining.
ratapadou69 3 years ago 5
zdarec! je fajn, že se o tuhle super kapelu zajímá i někdo z Česka! Marillion mám hodně rád a mrzí mě, že jsou tady u nás tak nedocenění ....
baziMB 3 years ago
Fish couldn't do this well on dry land. Great job Marillion!!!! Steve lets the crowd help out... Totally cool of this Band!!!!
timbowood 3 years ago 2
where en when was this filmed?
or is this from a DVD.
anyhow 5*.
zevenaar01 3 years ago
this from a DVD-Marillion - Wish You Were Here [Disc 1 ~Popular Music~]
Stoupa1007 3 years ago
Cool...I'm not the fan who gets into the Fish/Hogarth thing, I like both versions of the band but am always curious to see how Hogarth handles the "old stuff"...Thanks for the post!
RonG40 3 years ago 3