"You need to practice for 10,000 hours before you get good at anything". Practice? Are we talking about practice? why do i get the feeling that Allen Iverson would not be a fan of this man? Can you imagine if Allen Iverson had 10,000 hours of basketball practice under his belt? Talk about erasing Michael Jordan off the record books!
@kanguesso I don't know what that coach had on his mind, but I came across rather opposite info. It's logical to think that on NBA level you just can't be idler. There're people who like to hide facts about their training regime to look more impressive. You encounter them in every sphere of human activity. I knew some guys who kept the image of party people and also had straight A's apparently without learning, but later it came out that they went from party straight to the textbook.
Cool concept. Natural talent plays a big role as well. Lots of people could play the piano or study computers for 10,000+ hours or 20,000 hours and still have nothing to offer. It is a mix.
This man knows his stuff. I will forever recommend Outliers to everyone to read for the rest of my life. It's fascinating the things that are stated in this book.
Well check it out if all his work was in line wih his contemporaries then he was just composing in the style of his peers till he was comfortable to composing something yhat is all his and that would take time and observing what works and what has yet to be done. And if it's the zenith of a style then its a masterpiece. Or creates a new style then he is an originator both of which are accomplishments.
It was a great book and I don't normally read nonfiction. I was expecting it to be more of a how-to, but I was so fascinated by the stories and by the research, and I felt so empowered by its implications.
@0:45 is the reason America will fail. Too many who have "succeeded" believe that their success is due to nothing more than their own hard work and practice. This flawed theory allows a person to look at those who have not achieved a certain level of success and think "wow what a ignorant piece of shit". Discounting the fact that their own success was facilitated by something other than just their own "practice and hard work".
he's exactly right in what he is saying. I tried guitar at 12 and didn't get the results as fast as i wanted so i quit (i always admired other guitarists that were good),tried many other things and quit because i didn't get results fast. I started playing piano at 35 and enjoyed it so much that i practiced 3-5 hours a day. I can honestly say that this man is right. 10000 hours sound about right.
brilliant book. as an 13 year old, i will really work hard to improve myself in playing the guitar. slash practiced for 12 hours per day and im sure he reached the 10,000 hours. and look at him now, millions of people want to be him, just like you guys want to be the best. kings are not born, they are made. they are bred to become the elite of the society, genes mean nothing if your a dumbass.
Is he writing another book? It's been 3 years since Outliers and his latest book was just a collection of his magazine articles (not a bad thing, but).
honestly if i hadn't been told to research and read this book, i wouldn't even be here in the first place. he's talking about such a trivial matter in an overly-serious and pretentiously-analytical way, as if we ourselves hadn't a clue about 'success'. "... read it as an extended apology for my success ".. what the hell, what does he do for a living in the first place *sarcasm* but indeed, i find him arrogant and quite obnoxious. i bet this is for the uneducated wannabes.
@nataliechiara8602 I totally agree, I'm more a fan of Alain de Bouton, that man actually has an interesting take on succes and society and all the elements that fit in it and make it work.
I never said anything about the cosa nostra you dumb fuck. Go keep on reading Gladwell and tell yourself that you're well-read. Tell yourself that your sad little pussy fuck of a life will be ok. Dumb cockroach fuck.
You've missed Mr. Gladwell's point completely. What Mozart created at 11 sucked. When Michael Jordan tried out sophomore year for his high school varsity team, he sucked.
But they were resilient, passionate, and self-disciplined. When Gladwell talks about 10,000 hours he's talking about 10,000 hours of progress, not just idle repetition. Even though their earlier work/athleticism were not great they improved from it and that's all that matters, even if it was shit.
this video leaves out a couple good points he makes in the book which is just how much luck comes into play and how to really excell in life requires an IQ of about 120 or higher, which is average for a college graduate. I just hope the powers that be listen to this man and change the way we educate kids and go back to an apprentice format. Now they are saying kids learn nothing their 1st 2 years and some even regress. We need CHANGE!
His comments are fairly reasonable: It takes time to master something. 10,000 hours perhaps. No argument there. But to not judge people along the way to weed out those who may never "master" a certain craft or field no matter what is costly and counterproductive in most cases. Individuals must make choices in life and just because you happen by chance into a teaching job doesn't mean you'll ever become even a good teacher, so maybe the school fires you for poor performance after 1 yr. So what?
@aluisious Would you agree that if you lived in a middle class to wealthy neighborhood and Family A (Middle Class) can only send their kid to a community college, but Family B (Wealthy) can send their kid to Harvard that the kid from Family B is going to find far greater success in life? We are a product of our environment and timing.
gladwell's prose is just words with no logic or process behind it. so stop sucking his dick already you damn wankers. fuck. and malcolm gladwell, stop. fucking. writing.
@pear928 Gladwell's a NY Times best seller. You're just a typical Youtube internet troll; hater. Do you think your opinion matters in the grand scheme of things?
@da5families Being a best seller has nothing to do with speaking the truth or his credibility. If you actually believe only those who make NY Times best seller is entitled to an opinion, you are nothing more than a dumb motherfucking cunt.
@pear928 Im a university student I practice critical thinking regularly, I would know. For potty mouth uneducated people like you, I don't need to resort to going any deeper rhetoric than saying NY Times best seller > pear928.
@da5families You practice critical thinking regularly? You dumb fuck. If you used your fucking pea sized brain for a nanosecond you would know that being on the NYTimes bestseller's list has nothing to do with merit. University my ass you're just a fucking pussy ass fanboy.
@pear928 no need. already have it. internet troll.
i wonder behind that computer screen what you look like, do you have friends, what your father and your mom thinks of your behavior; more than a few decades to raise a ignorant potty mouth piece of shit. FAIL.
@da5families Here's a simple fact. You think being on NYTimes bestseller's list gives some credence to an author. This alone says so much about how fucking naive you are. Also, the very fact that you would try to attack my parents, my looks, and my friends suggest how much resentment you have towards your own folks (you probably never had any), you suffer from inferiority complex from being a fugly motherfucker, and of course, the only friend you ever had was the internet. I never said anything
further, his reasoning is so fucking stupid. "the beatles played thousands of shows in some obscure beer hall in germany, filling their 10k hr requirement for greatness" what the fuck? this is the stupidest fucking shit i've ever heard. beatles were great because they wrote great fucking songs, of which there is no clear and obvious relationship to performing inordinate number of shows. think about it. gladwell is basing his entire proposition on obscure, wee-minded logic.
i cant believe at this day and age we still have pseudo scientists like malcolm gladwell hailed as some fucking sage.
one of his premises is that to be good at something the process has to be practiced and honed over a long period of time. but is this such a big fucking surprise? like is this such revolutionary idea that you tools all need to get on your knees and kiss his ass?
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i just started reading this book and don't yet know whether i like it or not, but from what i hard here it leaves me a hope that i, actually, can become SOMEONE if i work on it..But let me finish the book
I'm starting high school in a few weeks... I had to read this over the summer. It's kind of depressing for high school students I would think. Then again my school is in a really wealthy area so... I guess it's kind of supposed to be inspirational.
Apparently, Gladwell is mixing competence with success.
Success is largely a combination of knowledge, ability and timing.
You have to have either oneof those three or all three to be successful.
The 10,000 hours aspect is confined to creating high professional ability and competence and is nothing new but can be found throughout history in various trades and jobs.
Take Bunraku-Japanese puppet theater. It takes 10 years to move from an apprentice to a performer.
Actually Gladwell says just that. The 10000 hour thing is only a small part of it. The rest of the book talks about how random variables like culture, timing, and very special opportunities lead to success more than pure talent. Most stories in the book explain why highly capable people don't become successful or how only specific groups have the chance to be successful at certain points in time. The book isn't life changing but it is a little interesting and an easy read.
That book made me depressed I had been practicing saxophone for two to three hours in the year and since reading the 10,000 hour rule I realized that if I ever wanted to get any better I had to practice 8 hours a day seven days a week like bill gates. Needless to say I decided to stop practicing and to work on my 10, 000 hours of writing
@anguianoloops69 youve picked it up wrongly,if you keep practising with feedback youll continually get better,if you want to be a virtuoso,a master youll need a natural gift plus approx 10,000 hours of deliberate practise,not just any practise but goal directed.
the 10,000 hour thing is successful to musicians cuz its just playing and practicing for 10,000 hrs striaght, I'm asian and i spent OVER 10,000 hrs in my life in school :P
I think he's trying to make his point to sell his book. Who is he to say that Mozart wasn't good at 8. I reckon better than this guy was at book writing. We are all x part nature and x part nurture. Sure how long and hard we work at it affects the outcome, but some people are pre-wired for greatness. It doesn't rule out someone making it thru grit & determination, but it helps. This guy has blinkers on
What Gladwell misses is the power and reach of the networks or connections we accidentally or deliberately build, and the processes we use to search out "success memes" so that we can take advantage of rising trends. None of that depends upon birth or life circumstances, or upon emotional or cognitive intelligence. Great book and definitely worth the money, but just google "success meme, outliers" and you'll see there's a whole new world out there.
Maybe Malcolm Gladwell's labeling of Mozart's early work as "garbage", but his main point is that fact that Mozart had to work to develop his ability. Compare his work from his childhood to his later life, his latter work is significantly better and it only got better by doing the hard work.
Think of the "10,000 hours rule" as a metaphor, then. You have to do work to get somewhere. I mean you can't just lie on your sofa eating flavored potato chips expecting progression to fly though the window and enter into your body, making your an instant success. Even if you are born with genius, you still have to work, work really hard, to exploit that genius.
Mr. Gladwell's arguments, when scrutinized, are self-referential and weak and are thus most often useless as academic works. They never really seem to be able to add anything to what we already know and good only for raising morale. I guess that's how we give his works value. There's actually nothing wrong with this, if you're OK with subscribing to and spreading questionable conclusions as truth. I am not, however, hence, my impassioned criticisms.
Malcolm Gladwell is making all these sweeping generalizations and oversimplifications and though his heart may be in the right place, they are just not true.
The guy is absolutely right - here is another great example: boxer David Haye. The interview with him is a perfect example of all the circumstances around him PLUS natural gift were condjusive for absolute mastery. He had the golden opportunity to start boxing at 10 years old and his parents loved boxing and I'm sure encouraged him along the way. It's like an uphill momentum of success capitalizing on success...
Wow are you off the mark. Gladwell would clain Leonardo DaV needed 10,000 hours of practice with design before he could do so with ease and expertise. As an apprentice to another artist, he would certainly have put in masses of time. His great works were done late in life (after 10,000 hours).
Yes he would. That's what the theory states. But he is dead wrong if he thinks genius is simply mechanical effort and nothing else (that is what the rule implies). I insist that the 10,000 rule is BS because it equates proficiency of skill (something which isn't too remarkable really) to true genius. Work is necessary to accomplish ANYTHING, but a genius is a genius. That is why we will always hold Mozart and da Vinci, among others, to be EXCEPTIONAL.
i just started reading Outliers today. I think it's a great book. He brings a lot of interesting points to the table, however, I don't agree with something he said in this interview. Mozart wasn't producing "garbage" at age 11.
Some people try to post here without knowing the ENGLISH language. Being competent is different from being an expert. Mozart was quite competent at playing the piano at 9 than other children his age were. At 22 and 23 he became an expert at what he did and achieved mastery.
He's not talking about the B+/A minuses or even the A's; he's talking about the A pluses and those who are off the charts.
I'm surprised that so many people got him wrong despite his lucidity. He is not saying that anyone who's worked hard for 10000 hours can succeed, he's telling us that among those who are already quite above average, hard work is more important than natural talents, and everybody (even Mozart) needs those 10000 hours in order to be great.
Can anyone tell me if this book is available in paperback in the US yet (or if there is a release date)? I know there's a hardcover edition, but I'm interested in whether there is a US paperback edition yet. Thanks in advance for any info you might have.
Thanks for the reply, Mr. Buttercracks, but I still can't find any info on a US paperback. I know about the UK release, but I'm looking to order it in bulk for a US vendor. Could you point me to a link for the US paperback?
By the way, I don't always agree with Gladwell's points. I'm mostly interested in the book as a pop culture phenomenon.
Seen this before for classical musicians. Maybe better stated, "You WON'T excel at anything UNLESS you put in 10,000 hours." The reciprocal (I put in my 10,000 hours, now why ain't I a genius) doesn't necessarily work. 10,000 hours is about five work-years of 40 hour weeks. Mostly, people don't have a sustained goal, don't keep building on a single interest.
i think it depends on what the field is so that theory is kinda incorrect for a general rule. there is focus involve and all that so ... u can do something a hundred of times if ur mind is not there u cant be good at it
Maybe BEEING on the internet or whatever you're doing isn't lucrative or something that achieves something meaningful. What was the goal you were aiming for?
@AndroidPolitician That's too general. It's because you're not studying something specifically on the internet. Now you might be, but I infer that you would have stated that you are instead of what you said which was to broad. You certainly know how to navigate comfortably throughout the internet can't you?
@AndroidPolitician more than 500000 have been on the internet that long.... the sucess he's talking about is.."tangible sucess"... there is no such thing as being sucessfull on the internet.. unless u turn it into some sort of profit
lol I took the test and it said that I associate black people with weapons more than white well actually that's not true LMAO... but it did say slightly..
but I"m black lmao..
yea well I get scared of black people
and I also get scared of white people with shaved heads.. LOL
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it's all nuts. so many poor people succeed despite the odds; & rich kids with a sense of entitlement fail. it comes too easy; there are so many instances in both cases - poor kids who repeat poverty; rich kids who inherit. so this is just bs he is throwing out.
1/2 way thru the book, I amost tossed it . Made me angry, but I've since recovered. I understand Gladwell, except that he doesn't define 'success'. Is he saying we are to deal with the hand they're dealt with and measure success by that? If so, you will see this continual increasing divergence of wealth between upper and lower classes carried through generations. Something's wrong there.
My take was that reality isn't problematic - not know reality is. SO knowing what we are up against in life is good information. What we do with it is up to us. It's like the girl in the school program that changed her direction in life by making different choices. She isn't Bill Gates, but she has a hell of a change now.
jdcowan, I agree, it helps us to know what the reality(s) are so that we can make wise choices, as individuals and as a society.
Perhaps what might be helpful to me (and this might sound strange to some) is to know more about Gladwell's political views so I know where he is going with info in his books. I have ideas; but, need confirmation.
Gladwell is a bullshitter...he crams his "evidence" into his preconceptions because they make people feel good, and thus make them buy his books.
Example: After Hamburg, Beatles turned down by every record label except one...and George Martin said he thought their playing as nothing remarkable, even their songwriting, but was struck by how marketable their personalities were.
10,000 applies to shit like playing the violin in a symphony, applying it to creative work in art and math is false
You made valid points. But I think the 10,000 hr rule is pretty much dead-on for those starting a business, getting a degree, learning an apprenticeship etc. Although, it does take some 'desire' to achieve at what you are doing.
you are missing the point. the point isnt that the beatles were successful because of hamburg. the point is they couldnt have done it without that experience. 'its not simply good enough to be talented and driven"
are you a musician? what do you know about violin?
I happen to agree with the 10,000 hour rule. being a professional musician i know for a fact all of those considered "masters" have spent AT LEAST ten thousand hours truly working on getting better.
theres plenty of bands out there who managed to do it without the experience of playing in hamburg. Of course all great bands work really hard at their music and the Beatles did too. What is the great revelation here? that successful people work hard, surely you dont need to read a book to figure that out.
actually i did read the book and didnt find any original ideas there, i did find him trotting out some old racial stereotypes which are simplistic and dangerous. its a small step from asians are hierarchical math geeks to hispanics are lazy and blacks are violent criminals. We dont need that kind of retarded thinking being propogated with some meaningless statistics being used to legitimize it
small step my ass. you are just a hater. trying to sound smart. the book helped me. you didnt like it. so what. go read something you do like and quit talking shit.
true Im a cellist and I have been outperformed by people that have less natural talent than I, all because they had the discipline to practice while I didn't have the same drive.
@frankbombs I totally agree with your comment. I myself have been an artist, producer, musician and have worked in information technology for ten years. I know first hand about the 10,000 hour rule. I can tell exactly where I am on the road in these different areas. For instance as a composer and producer I got to 10,000 hours about 2 years ago. As a guitar player I am about at 6000 hours. As an artist and painter I am at about 9000 hours. As an IT person I am at about 7000 hours.areas
mozart may have had the genius to start his work at age 11, but it took him years to hone his skills as a composer and bring something truly great to the world. because he merely says mozart wrote garbage at age 11. debatable, but the point is most of us would write a piece of garbage at any age and simply stop there, thinking "i must be a garbage composer" but no - we can all do great things with time and dedication - you gotta do work to do good
Yes but in his book he says that if you can still be very good at a young age like what mozart was but he did not reach his full potenial until he was 22/23
although i do think garbage is the wrong word to use
Because it doesn't matter what Dr Phil With An Afro says about Mozart at 22 just to fit into his theory.
Any 9 year old composing pieces like this
watch?v=hL0bBPMH8qg
is not "producing garbage",
By saying that, Gladwell just held a mirror up to himself, hes a man who is good at speaking for the sake of it because these overarching theories just dont work. Some pilots are superbly competent at 5,000 hours of flight - But I guess that Gladwell knows better
he acknowledges that mozart was incredibly talented, he is just saying that he did not reach his FULL POTENTIAL until he had practiced for this 10000 hours
and the flights was just a study into if different nationalities had more competent pilots... he is not saying that all these people are incompetant andd he takes into account that individuals are different but he is looking at the possiblity that it effects their attitude towards flying
Ok this gives me one more reason to take an arrow to the knee !
saveushiral 1 month ago
I'm buying this book soon, can't wait.
SolarRockNRed 1 month ago
"You need to practice for 10,000 hours before you get good at anything". Practice? Are we talking about practice? why do i get the feeling that Allen Iverson would not be a fan of this man? Can you imagine if Allen Iverson had 10,000 hours of basketball practice under his belt? Talk about erasing Michael Jordan off the record books!
kanguesso 1 month ago
@kanguesso And how do you know he doesn't have 10000 hours...?
mujotomi 1 month ago
@mujotomi He didn't like to PRACTICE, Duh!
kanguesso 1 month ago
@kanguesso That doesn't mean he wasn't.
mujotomi 1 month ago
@mujotomi Not according to his coach.
kanguesso 1 month ago
@kanguesso I don't know what that coach had on his mind, but I came across rather opposite info. It's logical to think that on NBA level you just can't be idler. There're people who like to hide facts about their training regime to look more impressive. You encounter them in every sphere of human activity. I knew some guys who kept the image of party people and also had straight A's apparently without learning, but later it came out that they went from party straight to the textbook.
mujotomi 1 month ago
i love this book!
missphatty85 1 month ago
Such a great book.
peacebalanceloveart 1 month ago
Mozart was a composer with 5-6. But he is probably right in some extend.
notengonickcojones 2 months ago
@notengonickcojones He wasn't an accomplished composer at 5-6. That's the point.
mujotomi 1 month ago
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Cool concept. Natural talent plays a big role as well. Lots of people could play the piano or study computers for 10,000+ hours or 20,000 hours and still have nothing to offer. It is a mix.
pismo10 2 months ago
the best book i read so far.its very practical. highly recommend if you want to be succesful..its plain logic..not some weird "the secret" power
shadd255 3 months ago
Loved this book - amazingly inspirational
TheRachelHenke 3 months ago
This man knows his stuff. I will forever recommend Outliers to everyone to read for the rest of my life. It's fascinating the things that are stated in this book.
souladucky 4 months ago
@Hofsteder
Well check it out if all his work was in line wih his contemporaries then he was just composing in the style of his peers till he was comfortable to composing something yhat is all his and that would take time and observing what works and what has yet to be done. And if it's the zenith of a style then its a masterpiece. Or creates a new style then he is an originator both of which are accomplishments.
STVODVIL 4 months ago
Interesting.............Hussein Obambi is an Outlier all-right. Especially the liar part.
ACORNSUCKS 5 months ago
@ACORNSUCKS prick.
hilariousmoments4u 2 months ago
@hilariousmoments4u dickhead Hussein lover.
ACORNSUCKS 2 months ago
@ACORNSUCKS I'm neither an Obama lover nor hater. But you're just flat out stupid. Or racist. Or both.
hilariousmoments4u 2 months ago
@hilariousmoments4u You have your fat nose up obam's asshole.
ACORNSUCKS 2 months ago
Thank you for posting this, media1512.
writersblock26 5 months ago
It was a great book and I don't normally read nonfiction. I was expecting it to be more of a how-to, but I was so fascinated by the stories and by the research, and I felt so empowered by its implications.
jessicadawnholt 5 months ago
just ordered the book can't wait to read it
breakdancer100 5 months ago
I love how Anderson Cooper somewhat begrudgingly acknowledges Gladwell's point about time and mastery (the 10,000 hour rule).
Its not an intuitive insight but nonetheless one that appears to hold true in a vast array of real world circumstances.
Our reality is more complex, interconnected and mysterious than most of us realize.
FreedomLiberty21 7 months ago
@0:45 is the reason America will fail. Too many who have "succeeded" believe that their success is due to nothing more than their own hard work and practice. This flawed theory allows a person to look at those who have not achieved a certain level of success and think "wow what a ignorant piece of shit". Discounting the fact that their own success was facilitated by something other than just their own "practice and hard work".
drbayoms 7 months ago
This book is a must read!!!! Super interesting, and informative. You can think outside of the bubble...
lemonsnlimes333 7 months ago
This book is a must read!!!!
lemonsnlimes333 7 months ago
hit any of the numbers on ur keyboard and u will laugh
JDDisneyTV 7 months ago
he's exactly right in what he is saying. I tried guitar at 12 and didn't get the results as fast as i wanted so i quit (i always admired other guitarists that were good),tried many other things and quit because i didn't get results fast. I started playing piano at 35 and enjoyed it so much that i practiced 3-5 hours a day. I can honestly say that this man is right. 10000 hours sound about right.
aknowneemus 7 months ago
brilliant book. as an 13 year old, i will really work hard to improve myself in playing the guitar. slash practiced for 12 hours per day and im sure he reached the 10,000 hours. and look at him now, millions of people want to be him, just like you guys want to be the best. kings are not born, they are made. they are bred to become the elite of the society, genes mean nothing if your a dumbass.
punongkahoy312 7 months ago
Guitar players---can you say "CARPAL TUNNEL SYNDROME?"
robert1268 8 months ago
Is he writing another book? It's been 3 years since Outliers and his latest book was just a collection of his magazine articles (not a bad thing, but).
camreeno360 8 months ago
honestly if i hadn't been told to research and read this book, i wouldn't even be here in the first place. he's talking about such a trivial matter in an overly-serious and pretentiously-analytical way, as if we ourselves hadn't a clue about 'success'. "... read it as an extended apology for my success ".. what the hell, what does he do for a living in the first place *sarcasm* but indeed, i find him arrogant and quite obnoxious. i bet this is for the uneducated wannabes.
nataliechiara8602 9 months ago
@nataliechiara8602 don't confuse what hes saying with how he says it
ketsustyle 8 months ago
@nataliechiara8602 I totally agree, I'm more a fan of Alain de Bouton, that man actually has an interesting take on succes and society and all the elements that fit in it and make it work.
esdenaze 7 months ago
my favorite author.!!!
Malcolm Gladwell is the best.
honeybear540 9 months ago
dd
vitalychernobyl1 9 months ago
i'm a self made investor after spending over 10,000 hrs investing :)
samann95014 9 months ago
funny how you keep calling me a troll when that is just another form of trolling. fucking pussy.
pear928 10 months ago
I never said anything about the cosa nostra you dumb fuck. Go keep on reading Gladwell and tell yourself that you're well-read. Tell yourself that your sad little pussy fuck of a life will be ok. Dumb cockroach fuck.
pear928 10 months ago
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babyblackshadow 10 months ago
@babyblackshadow
You've missed Mr. Gladwell's point completely. What Mozart created at 11 sucked. When Michael Jordan tried out sophomore year for his high school varsity team, he sucked.
But they were resilient, passionate, and self-disciplined. When Gladwell talks about 10,000 hours he's talking about 10,000 hours of progress, not just idle repetition. Even though their earlier work/athleticism were not great they improved from it and that's all that matters, even if it was shit.
n0time2spare 10 months ago
this video leaves out a couple good points he makes in the book which is just how much luck comes into play and how to really excell in life requires an IQ of about 120 or higher, which is average for a college graduate. I just hope the powers that be listen to this man and change the way we educate kids and go back to an apprentice format. Now they are saying kids learn nothing their 1st 2 years and some even regress. We need CHANGE!
ironspade 10 months ago
Someone who is truly talented and clever doesn't need that much time.
mmr11027 10 months ago
His comments are fairly reasonable: It takes time to master something. 10,000 hours perhaps. No argument there. But to not judge people along the way to weed out those who may never "master" a certain craft or field no matter what is costly and counterproductive in most cases. Individuals must make choices in life and just because you happen by chance into a teaching job doesn't mean you'll ever become even a good teacher, so maybe the school fires you for poor performance after 1 yr. So what?
conboy11 10 months ago
Success is who you are AND your environment? Wow, that's so fascinating. Please do tell me more.
These books really are designed to impress morons. I have to give him kudos for realizing that's such a rich market.
aluisious 11 months ago
@aluisious Would you agree that if you lived in a middle class to wealthy neighborhood and Family A (Middle Class) can only send their kid to a community college, but Family B (Wealthy) can send their kid to Harvard that the kid from Family B is going to find far greater success in life? We are a product of our environment and timing.
ShelterDogs 10 months ago
Just a great revelation.
Kellykleinman 11 months ago
fuck this book
LINX29X92 1 year ago
That 10,000 hour rule is amazing. I'm inclined to agree with that. Wow! I've been struck with an epiphany today.
333777threeseven 1 year ago
Something about this guy that I don't trust... just perceive an underlying motive.
invertedchords 1 year ago
@invertedchords
ya d00d, itz cos hez part blak
MrMerajjio 1 year ago
gladwell's prose is just words with no logic or process behind it. so stop sucking his dick already you damn wankers. fuck. and malcolm gladwell, stop. fucking. writing.
pear928 1 year ago
@pear928 Gladwell's a NY Times best seller. You're just a typical Youtube internet troll; hater. Do you think your opinion matters in the grand scheme of things?
da5families 10 months ago
@da5families Being a best seller has nothing to do with speaking the truth or his credibility. If you actually believe only those who make NY Times best seller is entitled to an opinion, you are nothing more than a dumb motherfucking cunt.
pear928 10 months ago
@pear928 Im a university student I practice critical thinking regularly, I would know. For potty mouth uneducated people like you, I don't need to resort to going any deeper rhetoric than saying NY Times best seller > pear928.
da5families 10 months ago
@da5families You practice critical thinking regularly? You dumb fuck. If you used your fucking pea sized brain for a nanosecond you would know that being on the NYTimes bestseller's list has nothing to do with merit. University my ass you're just a fucking pussy ass fanboy.
pear928 10 months ago
@pear928 @da5families I love it. I LOVE it. keep up the profanity; you're making yourself look like an idiot. not me.
by the way, learn to read.
da5families 10 months ago
@da5families Go heed to your master and practice critical thinking for at least 10000 hours you rat fuck.
pear928 10 months ago
@pear928 no need. already have it. internet troll.
i wonder behind that computer screen what you look like, do you have friends, what your father and your mom thinks of your behavior; more than a few decades to raise a ignorant potty mouth piece of shit. FAIL.
da5families 10 months ago
@da5families Here's a simple fact. You think being on NYTimes bestseller's list gives some credence to an author. This alone says so much about how fucking naive you are. Also, the very fact that you would try to attack my parents, my looks, and my friends suggest how much resentment you have towards your own folks (you probably never had any), you suffer from inferiority complex from being a fugly motherfucker, and of course, the only friend you ever had was the internet. I never said anything
pear928 10 months ago
@pear928 lol. good one. you're an internet troller, you're cheesy get lost.
da5families 10 months ago
@pear928 im not with la cosa nostra. get a real life.
da5families 10 months ago
further, his reasoning is so fucking stupid. "the beatles played thousands of shows in some obscure beer hall in germany, filling their 10k hr requirement for greatness" what the fuck? this is the stupidest fucking shit i've ever heard. beatles were great because they wrote great fucking songs, of which there is no clear and obvious relationship to performing inordinate number of shows. think about it. gladwell is basing his entire proposition on obscure, wee-minded logic.
pear928 1 year ago
i cant believe at this day and age we still have pseudo scientists like malcolm gladwell hailed as some fucking sage.
one of his premises is that to be good at something the process has to be practiced and honed over a long period of time. but is this such a big fucking surprise? like is this such revolutionary idea that you tools all need to get on your knees and kiss his ass?
pear928 1 year ago
4 people who watched this will never master anything
marlowetravers 1 year ago
I think even the guitar player Steve Vai once said you have to practice 10,000 hours to get good !
Zappacho 1 year ago
i personaly think this rule is bullshit way too logical mozART WAS GREAT AT 11
crisDAwog 1 year ago
@crisDAwog Mozart wasn't "GREAT AT 11"; Mozart was good. The symphonies only manifested after 10 000 hours of effort.
honeyandwool 1 year ago 6
are outliers outliers if we can predict that there will always be a few outliers?
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appositiongh 1 year ago
in 10.000 hours from now i will be able to summon lightning and i will be the most powerful man on earth!!!!YEAH!!!!
amtheriver 1 year ago 7
@amtheriver i fckin LOL'd at this
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amtheriver 1 year ago
i just started reading this book and don't yet know whether i like it or not, but from what i hard here it leaves me a hope that i, actually, can become SOMEONE if i work on it..But let me finish the book
fdzhanibekova 1 year ago
I'm starting high school in a few weeks... I had to read this over the summer. It's kind of depressing for high school students I would think. Then again my school is in a really wealthy area so... I guess it's kind of supposed to be inspirational.
usamaki10 1 year ago
he looks like Krusty the Clown from the Simpson
swtsymphony 1 year ago 3
Apparently, Gladwell is mixing competence with success.
Success is largely a combination of knowledge, ability and timing.
You have to have either oneof those three or all three to be successful.
The 10,000 hours aspect is confined to creating high professional ability and competence and is nothing new but can be found throughout history in various trades and jobs.
Take Bunraku-Japanese puppet theater. It takes 10 years to move from an apprentice to a performer.
Nothing new.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1
Actually Gladwell says just that. The 10000 hour thing is only a small part of it. The rest of the book talks about how random variables like culture, timing, and very special opportunities lead to success more than pure talent. Most stories in the book explain why highly capable people don't become successful or how only specific groups have the chance to be successful at certain points in time. The book isn't life changing but it is a little interesting and an easy read.
3eyedweasel 11 months ago
@3eyedweasel Culture is always a bullshit racist argument.
You also have define what you mean by success.
If you mean riches and wealth, then only a small percentage of people attain that level.
That's an industry unto itself-books that tell you how tobe successful or study how people attained success.
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moneyinabundance 1 year ago
That book made me depressed I had been practicing saxophone for two to three hours in the year and since reading the 10,000 hour rule I realized that if I ever wanted to get any better I had to practice 8 hours a day seven days a week like bill gates. Needless to say I decided to stop practicing and to work on my 10, 000 hours of writing
anguianoloops69 1 year ago
@anguianoloops69 youve picked it up wrongly,if you keep practising with feedback youll continually get better,if you want to be a virtuoso,a master youll need a natural gift plus approx 10,000 hours of deliberate practise,not just any practise but goal directed.
billysue2 1 year ago
the 10,000 hour thing is successful to musicians cuz its just playing and practicing for 10,000 hrs striaght, I'm asian and i spent OVER 10,000 hrs in my life in school :P
edmondYJ 1 year ago
10 000 hours sounds about right for musicianship, that explains why 99% of popular musicians today can't play their instruments very well.
Frankenpalin 1 year ago 26
I can't wait to read this book!!
julianna0627 1 year ago
This guy is a complete dink, buy his book if you want to be conned.
beradification 1 year ago
Gladwell reminds me of Side Show Bob...a nerdy, Kinda Cute, Biracial Sideshow Bob
Unekwu89 1 year ago
I think he's trying to make his point to sell his book. Who is he to say that Mozart wasn't good at 8. I reckon better than this guy was at book writing. We are all x part nature and x part nurture. Sure how long and hard we work at it affects the outcome, but some people are pre-wired for greatness. It doesn't rule out someone making it thru grit & determination, but it helps. This guy has blinkers on
etmax1 1 year ago
What Gladwell misses is the power and reach of the networks or connections we accidentally or deliberately build, and the processes we use to search out "success memes" so that we can take advantage of rising trends. None of that depends upon birth or life circumstances, or upon emotional or cognitive intelligence. Great book and definitely worth the money, but just google "success meme, outliers" and you'll see there's a whole new world out there.
moorinn34 1 year ago
He has Art Garfunkel hair.
Forensource 1 year ago
@Forensource and that is what you got out of the interview? Okay then *snort*
ElegantPaws01 1 year ago
Amazing first half. Loved him since the tipping point.
MrBadleyBradley 1 year ago
Great Book!!! Thanks!!!
MiguelSantanaArt 1 year ago
I would not say older is worse what I would say is that it takes the brain a lot longer to grasp what say and under 5 would :D
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arkable1 1 year ago
this is true u only get better with practice in anything talent counts but harder pays off more
corruptionRFP 2 years ago
Maybe Malcolm Gladwell's labeling of Mozart's early work as "garbage", but his main point is that fact that Mozart had to work to develop his ability. Compare his work from his childhood to his later life, his latter work is significantly better and it only got better by doing the hard work.
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5hiv4n 2 years ago
Think of the "10,000 hours rule" as a metaphor, then. You have to do work to get somewhere. I mean you can't just lie on your sofa eating flavored potato chips expecting progression to fly though the window and enter into your body, making your an instant success. Even if you are born with genius, you still have to work, work really hard, to exploit that genius.
5hiv4n 2 years ago 18
@5hiv4n its not a metaphor, its a specifif number
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WK4R 2 years ago
But Gladwell's main point is that:
He is a f*cking retard who will never approach the objective genius of Mozart at age 6, never mind 11.
LordButtercracks 2 years ago
"Mozart is composing garbage at eleven" -> alright. so much for insight then. This guy has no idea what he is talking about
firebreathone 2 years ago
this dude fucking sucks. His logic is that of a 10 year old. Take what he says with a grain of salt...
mpc232323 2 years ago
@mpc232323 u should probably read the book before making that assertion
kbb28 2 years ago
I have
mpc232323 2 years ago
Read the book and see if what you claim holds a grain of salt. Better yet, read the tipping point....that book is even better!
soulchild2008 1 year ago
Mr. Gladwell's arguments, when scrutinized, are self-referential and weak and are thus most often useless as academic works. They never really seem to be able to add anything to what we already know and good only for raising morale. I guess that's how we give his works value. There's actually nothing wrong with this, if you're OK with subscribing to and spreading questionable conclusions as truth. I am not, however, hence, my impassioned criticisms.
rachre 2 years ago
@rachre whateva nigga
wowusvn 1 year ago
Malcolm Gladwell is making all these sweeping generalizations and oversimplifications and though his heart may be in the right place, they are just not true.
rachre 2 years ago
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WK4R 2 years ago
The guy is absolutely right - here is another great example: boxer David Haye. The interview with him is a perfect example of all the circumstances around him PLUS natural gift were condjusive for absolute mastery. He had the golden opportunity to start boxing at 10 years old and his parents loved boxing and I'm sure encouraged him along the way. It's like an uphill momentum of success capitalizing on success...
philipjterry 2 years ago
Ok. So that means that Leonardo da Vinci would need around 1000 years to achieve what he has achieved. This 10,000 hour rule is pure BS.
rachre2 2 years ago
Wow are you off the mark. Gladwell would clain Leonardo DaV needed 10,000 hours of practice with design before he could do so with ease and expertise. As an apprentice to another artist, he would certainly have put in masses of time. His great works were done late in life (after 10,000 hours).
drfoxcourt 2 years ago 2
Yes he would. That's what the theory states. But he is dead wrong if he thinks genius is simply mechanical effort and nothing else (that is what the rule implies). I insist that the 10,000 rule is BS because it equates proficiency of skill (something which isn't too remarkable really) to true genius. Work is necessary to accomplish ANYTHING, but a genius is a genius. That is why we will always hold Mozart and da Vinci, among others, to be EXCEPTIONAL.
rachre 2 years ago
i just started reading Outliers today. I think it's a great book. He brings a lot of interesting points to the table, however, I don't agree with something he said in this interview. Mozart wasn't producing "garbage" at age 11.
That's all.
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emphamiz1 2 years ago
Some people try to post here without knowing the ENGLISH language. Being competent is different from being an expert. Mozart was quite competent at playing the piano at 9 than other children his age were. At 22 and 23 he became an expert at what he did and achieved mastery.
He's not talking about the B+/A minuses or even the A's; he's talking about the A pluses and those who are off the charts.
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BrokenAero1 2 years ago
I'm surprised that so many people got him wrong despite his lucidity. He is not saying that anyone who's worked hard for 10000 hours can succeed, he's telling us that among those who are already quite above average, hard work is more important than natural talents, and everybody (even Mozart) needs those 10000 hours in order to be great.
awnplmigo 2 years ago
Obama is an outlier in that he's an extraordinarily empty suit. Gladwell and CNN are drinking the Obama kool aid, in this video atleast.
ELHIEGER1 2 years ago
I had to read this book for ap english and I absolutely loved it!
grawritsangie 2 years ago
I adore this book.
MattTastySteelman 2 years ago
Can anyone tell me if this book is available in paperback in the US yet (or if there is a release date)? I know there's a hardcover edition, but I'm interested in whether there is a US paperback edition yet. Thanks in advance for any info you might have.
TheArtOfTheComment 2 years ago
Its available in paperback, which makes it great for your space heater.
LordButtercracks 2 years ago
Thanks for the reply, Mr. Buttercracks, but I still can't find any info on a US paperback. I know about the UK release, but I'm looking to order it in bulk for a US vendor. Could you point me to a link for the US paperback?
By the way, I don't always agree with Gladwell's points. I'm mostly interested in the book as a pop culture phenomenon.
TheArtOfTheComment 2 years ago
Seen this before for classical musicians. Maybe better stated, "You WON'T excel at anything UNLESS you put in 10,000 hours." The reciprocal (I put in my 10,000 hours, now why ain't I a genius) doesn't necessarily work. 10,000 hours is about five work-years of 40 hour weeks. Mostly, people don't have a sustained goal, don't keep building on a single interest.
manabozho 2 years ago 2
10thousands hours / by 24h = 417 days
417 - 365 = 52 (so one year a month and 22 days!
i think it depends on what the field is so that theory is kinda incorrect for a general rule. there is focus involve and all that so ... u can do something a hundred of times if ur mind is not there u cant be good at it
izaak791 2 years ago
I've been on the internet for 10,000 hours WHY AREN'T I SUCCESSFUL YET.
AndroidPolitician 2 years ago 37
You aren't staying the same topic online. You have to also do 10,000 hours in a year!
jbplaysmusic 2 years ago
Maybe BEEING on the internet or whatever you're doing isn't lucrative or something that achieves something meaningful. What was the goal you were aiming for?
clintonskakun 2 years ago
But you are not doing anything meaningful.
challengeme99999 2 years ago
if there was a way to make money watching porn you would be bill gates.
or you have no idea how long 10,000 hours is.
frankbombs 2 years ago
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LordButtercracks 2 years ago
@AndroidPolitician That's too general. It's because you're not studying something specifically on the internet. Now you might be, but I infer that you would have stated that you are instead of what you said which was to broad. You certainly know how to navigate comfortably throughout the internet can't you?
termanogue 1 year ago 2
@AndroidPolitician
You are....successful on posting first here.
maselarita 1 year ago
@AndroidPolitician more than 500000 have been on the internet that long.... the sucess he's talking about is.."tangible sucess"... there is no such thing as being sucessfull on the internet.. unless u turn it into some sort of profit
tabiforcamille 1 year ago
@AndroidPolitician - Porn doesn't count
ConroyBumpus 1 year ago
@AndroidPolitician - Porn doesn't count
ConroyBumpus 1 year ago 3
@AndroidPolitician You are; you've mastered the ins and outs of web browsing.
Imperativism 1 year ago
@AndroidPolitician the 10,000 hour rule is to declare yourself an expert... not that you will be successful if you do something for 10,000 hours...
Prestige087 1 year ago
@AndroidPolitician maybe bec u r a politician..
Jesuslovesseng 1 year ago
10000 hours! If someone had a commited hobby of 10hrs a week it would 20 years to master it. OK now I know.
freendull 2 years ago
Gladwell is awesome. All three of his books are riveting.
getgln 2 years ago 5
lol I took the test and it said that I associate black people with weapons more than white well actually that's not true LMAO... but it did say slightly..
but I"m black lmao..
yea well I get scared of black people
and I also get scared of white people with shaved heads.. LOL
acrislazoiu 2 years ago
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it's all nuts. so many poor people succeed despite the odds; & rich kids with a sense of entitlement fail. it comes too easy; there are so many instances in both cases - poor kids who repeat poverty; rich kids who inherit. so this is just bs he is throwing out.
culturelady 2 years ago
"so many poor people succeed despite the odds"
yeah so many. I mean it's not like the majority of rich people in America where born rich.
AndroidPolitician 2 years ago
you obviously haven't read the book.
frankbombs 2 years ago
Gee whiz. Does Youtube ever not have technical difficulties.? Now it's flagged my postings as spam. What next? Censorship?
LesTrafik 2 years ago
1/2 way thru the book, I amost tossed it . Made me angry, but I've since recovered. I understand Gladwell, except that he doesn't define 'success'. Is he saying we are to deal with the hand they're dealt with and measure success by that? If so, you will see this continual increasing divergence of wealth between upper and lower classes carried through generations. Something's wrong there.
LesTrafik 2 years ago
My take was that reality isn't problematic - not know reality is. SO knowing what we are up against in life is good information. What we do with it is up to us. It's like the girl in the school program that changed her direction in life by making different choices. She isn't Bill Gates, but she has a hell of a change now.
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LesTrafik 2 years ago
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jdcowan, I agree, it helps us to know what the reality(s) are so that we can make wise choices, as individuals and as a society.
Perhaps what might be helpful to me (and this might sound strange to some) is to know more about Gladwell's political views so I know where he is going with info in his books. I have ideas; but, need confirmation.
LesTrafik 2 years ago
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LesTrafik 2 years ago
Gladwell is a bullshitter...he crams his "evidence" into his preconceptions because they make people feel good, and thus make them buy his books.
Example: After Hamburg, Beatles turned down by every record label except one...and George Martin said he thought their playing as nothing remarkable, even their songwriting, but was struck by how marketable their personalities were.
10,000 applies to shit like playing the violin in a symphony, applying it to creative work in art and math is false
MisterAtoms 2 years ago
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You made valid points. But I think the 10,000 hr rule is pretty much dead-on for those starting a business, getting a degree, learning an apprenticeship etc. Although, it does take some 'desire' to achieve at what you are doing.
LesTrafik 2 years ago
you are missing the point. the point isnt that the beatles were successful because of hamburg. the point is they couldnt have done it without that experience. 'its not simply good enough to be talented and driven"
are you a musician? what do you know about violin?
I happen to agree with the 10,000 hour rule. being a professional musician i know for a fact all of those considered "masters" have spent AT LEAST ten thousand hours truly working on getting better.
frankbombs 2 years ago 12
theres plenty of bands out there who managed to do it without the experience of playing in hamburg. Of course all great bands work really hard at their music and the Beatles did too. What is the great revelation here? that successful people work hard, surely you dont need to read a book to figure that out.
Axl207 2 years ago
you abviously didnt understand what i said. nor did you read the book. the point is you cant just be good. things have to fall into place.
frankbombs 2 years ago
actually i did read the book and didnt find any original ideas there, i did find him trotting out some old racial stereotypes which are simplistic and dangerous. its a small step from asians are hierarchical math geeks to hispanics are lazy and blacks are violent criminals. We dont need that kind of retarded thinking being propogated with some meaningless statistics being used to legitimize it
Axl207 2 years ago
small step my ass. you are just a hater. trying to sound smart. the book helped me. you didnt like it. so what. go read something you do like and quit talking shit.
frankbombs 2 years ago
i am not surprised that the book helped you bcos clearly you need a lot of help. You were a little slow asa child werent you.
Axl207 2 years ago
@frankbombs
true Im a cellist and I have been outperformed by people that have less natural talent than I, all because they had the discipline to practice while I didn't have the same drive.
Unekwu89 1 year ago
@frankbombs I totally agree with your comment. I myself have been an artist, producer, musician and have worked in information technology for ten years. I know first hand about the 10,000 hour rule. I can tell exactly where I am on the road in these different areas. For instance as a composer and producer I got to 10,000 hours about 2 years ago. As a guitar player I am about at 6000 hours. As an artist and painter I am at about 9000 hours. As an IT person I am at about 7000 hours.areas
mibrito666 1 year ago
@mibrito666 jesus, you have spent about 60 percent of your time in the past 10 years either painting, playing guitar, composing music, or using IT?
TheMswizzy 10 months ago
he does have a great point, tho
mozart may have had the genius to start his work at age 11, but it took him years to hone his skills as a composer and bring something truly great to the world. because he merely says mozart wrote garbage at age 11. debatable, but the point is most of us would write a piece of garbage at any age and simply stop there, thinking "i must be a garbage composer" but no - we can all do great things with time and dedication - you gotta do work to do good
BigNickontheDrum 2 years ago
No.
Mozart did not, as "Dr Phil" Gladwell said.
Gladwell may have written garbage, and may still write garbage, but at 11, Mozart was not writing "garbage".
Mozart wrote this at 8. By 11 it was even better.
watch?v=hL0bBPMH8qg
Gladwell is going to regret saying that. It shows he is the Uri Geller of the literary world.
LordButtercracks 2 years ago 2
Yes but in his book he says that if you can still be very good at a young age like what mozart was but he did not reach his full potenial until he was 22/23
although i do think garbage is the wrong word to use
Nadge11 2 years ago 2
Well tough luck.
Because it doesn't matter what Dr Phil With An Afro says about Mozart at 22 just to fit into his theory.
Any 9 year old composing pieces like this
watch?v=hL0bBPMH8qg
is not "producing garbage",
By saying that, Gladwell just held a mirror up to himself, hes a man who is good at speaking for the sake of it because these overarching theories just dont work. Some pilots are superbly competent at 5,000 hours of flight - But I guess that Gladwell knows better
LordButtercracks 2 years ago
he acknowledges that mozart was incredibly talented, he is just saying that he did not reach his FULL POTENTIAL until he had practiced for this 10000 hours
and the flights was just a study into if different nationalities had more competent pilots... he is not saying that all these people are incompetant andd he takes into account that individuals are different but he is looking at the possiblity that it effects their attitude towards flying