Obama Refuses Access to Birth Records

[adiosucks123]

All I hear is "He's black, he can't be american!"

[Nobamatruth]

@adiosucks123, Well, that just shows how ignorant you are then doesn't it? The fact that he has spent millions to stop the release of his birth certificate, and that his own attorneys have argued that it's release would prove to be an embarrassment to him, should give you a clue that he has something to hide. There was no space on the form to list his religion or his parents marital status, so what would be so embarrassing about it? What did he lie about? Perhaps where he was born?

[msgais]

Muzzy terrorsit occupying our oval office.

[demmmmm1]

Why ask for the birth certificate in the first place? Why would any sane human being think that a man whose mother was born in Kansas, who was editor of the Harvard Law Review, taught Constitutional Law on the university level, served the State of Illinois, became a member of Congress, and ran one of the most electrifying campaigns in recent memory, would be an illegal alien?

Anyway...as you know, it's settled for anyone who bases their judgments on fact.

[Nobamatruth]

@demmmmm1, You have based your judgement on FICTION. The Constitution requires the President to be a "natural born citizen" meaning someone born in our nations to US citizen parents. It is common knowledge that his father was a British subject from Kenya-that made Obama a British subject the moment he was born. People holding dual citizenship are not legally eligible to hold the Office of President.

[hoonerdog]

This whole video is wrong and a lie. I want the guy who made this to show me his birth certificate. I want him, if he has the guts, to show me the time and place of birth. I also want him, if he was in the military, to show me what branch and when.

I also want him to show me his parents so I can varify their national origin.

If he can do all that with out any statement that he will use to pass on varification, we'll see. If he wants Obama to do this why can't he????

[Nobamatruth]

@hoonerdog, Because the man that made this video didn't run for public office. The 20th Amendment requires that the President qualify for office, and Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution requires that the President be a "natural born citizen", meaning a person born in the US, to parents not owing allegiance to any foreign country-not to someone that holds his wee-wee, when the National Anthem is being played. Any other ignorant questions?

[amyalewine]

@Nobamatruth Thank you for setting that troll straight. Ignornance is destroying this country and Hoonerdog is very ignorant.

[demmmmm1]

@Nobamatruth Does everyone understand that this issue was solved a very, very long time ago? The hospital will not issue his original birth certificate. It's why they do the "certificate of live birth," which is the one we've all seen, and which has been certified by the State of Hawaii. It is exactly the same document he would use should law require members of congress and the White House to present them, according to the State of Hawaii. End - of - story.

[Nobamatruth]

@demmmmm1, No, the State of Hawaii never verified his "Certification of Live Birth" was genuine. As I already stated, to be a "natural born citizen", BOTH OF YOUR PARENTS MUST BE US CITIZENS.

[demmmmm1]

@Nobamatruth Where do you get your information from? Here's one of the many, many articles on the matter.

You're either listening to Glenn Beck too much, or your birther group, or whoever...try real media, and definitely do your own fact-checking before you believe what you hear on FOX.

There's only one reason this is still a story, and that is that there are insane people out there who are either racist, or just weird conspiracy theorists - like Beck.

[Nobamatruth]

@demmmmm1, You have just proved your ignorance. Glenn Beck and Fox News refuse to talk about the issue.

[demmmmm1]

@Nobamatruth OMG. You have to be kidding me.

From Media Matters: "Fox News still trafficking in birth certificate theories." Google it, and read the page. It's not their "opinion," it's fact.

[Nobamatruth]

@demmmmm1, Do you understand the concept of "Time"? The article is dated May 28, 2009, and it is NOT FACTUAL. The article states, "The Hawaii Department of Health also repeatedly confirmed that the birth certificate on record with the state is valid and proves that he was born in the state of Hawaii." The truth is that the HDOH, has never stated Obama's Birth Certificate proves he was born in Hawaii, and has never verified the document Obama posted on the internet is genuine.

[demmmmm1]

@Nobamatruth No point in arguing with you about something you could easily google. It has been two years now since most sane people saw the proof. You are dead wrong, and that's about all I can say. The governor of Hawaii even said he was born there. It's a done story for people who live in the real world.

[Nobamatruth]

@demmmmm1, In June, 2008, after viewing the Certification of Live Birth, provided on Obama's Fight the Smears website, Janice Okubo, of the Hawaii Health Department stated, "I don't know that it's possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents." The Hawaii Director of Heath said Obama's original birth certificate is "on record", but, neither she nor the Governor has ever said "his birth certificate says he was born in Hawaii". If I'm wrong-prove it! Good luck!

[lv2surf]

Little Barry is all grown up with from his Mama who didn't believe in God and his Kenyan Dad who was a core Muslim married to another Muslim when Barry was born making him a bastard son! Growing up with a huge chip on his shoulders power rich muslims saw great potential in him and got him into the best anti american schools money could buy some many years later their plans have come to light,Barrys in the White House playing with matches creating racist division while our emenys grow

[supermario00110011]

While he was running someone should have got the birth records for all the other candidates together and out of all those ducks one would be left a bit of a goose don't you say? lol

[Nobamatruth]

@supermario00110011, Yes, funny you mention ducks. Go to obama's Fightthesmears website, and download a copy of his "Birth Certificate. If you open it with Windows Notepad, you will see the word "Adobe" on the top line, meaning the document was Photoshopped. You will also see the name of the person that did it- "Ducky".

[finallytherock]

That pretty amazing considering Obama's birth announcement published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961. Are you saying that has been faked? and that all the people that remember that have been shut up?

I know, I know... he's black and therefore not really american in your book.

[Nobamatruth]

@finallytherock, The Hawaii Heath Department routinely issues "Certifications of Live Birth" to children born outside of the United States, and when that is done an announcement is placed in the Newspapers. The announcements do not say where the child was born. There is nothing "Amazing" about it, unless you are very simple minded. The fact remains that his father was a British subject, which means Barry was born a citizen of the United Kingdom, and that will not change regardless of his race.

[finallytherock]

@Nobamatruth Other than the announcement listing his parents address (something that could checked, and has been)?

Why not get all over him for bailing out the UAW... that an issue that will win you the next election. This bunch of crap will do nothing but make people think you totally nuts.

[Nobamatruth]

@finallytherock, The birth announcements do not say where Barry was born. The address in the birth announcement was a house that his grandparents rented-not his parents address. His father lived on the other side of town, and remained there until he moved to Harvard. His parents never lived together. Now, how exactly was I supposed to discuss the UAW bailout, in a video posted in September of 2008? Why haven't you made a video about it?

[gorgeousdzastr]

@finallytherock Why does EVERYONE insist that he is BLACK?

He is HALF OTHER remember? Or does that OTHER half NOT count?

[Nobamatruth]

@gorgeousdzastr, It is interesting to note that all these accusations of racism, come from the party that started the KKK-the Democrats. They hanged both black and white people for voting Republican. So when the blacks finally get the right to vote, thanks to the Republicans, they joined the Democratic Party, that oppressed them for so many years, and attack the Republicans. Don't they get it? The KKK endorsed Obama.

[usrevolution2]

IS IT TIME?! Go to USRevolution2 (dot com) and get your flag of the Second American Revolution. They were recently all over the tax day rallies in Boston and D.C. They will also soon appear in Bob Basso’s new Thomas Paine videos and on Showtime’s “Weeds” show. They look exactly like the flag of Betsy Ross with a Roman numeral “II” in the center of the 13 stars. This flag is now in all 50 states and spreading from porch to porch. They make great gifts for family, friends and recovering Liberals.

[kirkd13]

Barack Obama is a muslim. He doesn't give a crap about this country. He is focused on the "one world government" and in his mind he thinks he is going to be the leader of that government. He is a sick puppy.

[astupid16yearold]

You know what's ironic, McCain was not actually born in the United States. lol He was Born in Panama, he was born a Panama citizen and later they changed the law, sons and daughters born on American military bases abroad were then considered American citizens.

[Nobamatruth]

@astupid16yearold, "later they changed the law, sons and daughters born on American military bases abroad were then considered American citizens." Your screen name fits you well. US immigration law has held that the foreign born children of US citizens, are US citizens since the First Congress passed our nation's first immigration act in 1790.

[derrick713]

@astupid16yearold he was born on US territory since it was ours when we built the canal till jimmy carter returned sovereignty to Panama.

[dzubztv]

this happened in peru with a japanese president they had... his name was fujimori...

it's all good. if u like the us constitution then u should see the truth and the truth is that it doesnt matter what race or where he was born. dat really shouldnt matter rite? were smart enough as humans to look past that now right? thats prejudice right?

[Nobamatruth]

@dzubztv, "the truth is that it doesnt matter what race or where he was born"?The Constitution requires the President to be a "natural born citizen" which is a legal term that was well understood by the founders of our nation, being defined in legal texts, before the Revolutionary War. "Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens."

[BigNeonGlitterGirl]

@dzubztv Your a dumbass and you just don't get it!!! So I won't bother explaining it to you.

[JRBeaman]

You were all warned.

Now eat shit and die.

Obama is a Muslim. - Proof:

Muslims kill those that convert to Christianity. - Obama is still alive.

What could be worse than a Muslim Gangsta running our country?

Answer: Nancy Palosi.

[slvrserfr]

It's interesting how he has consistently insisted on spending as much money as possible during his term as president. Overcirculation of the dollar would cause a currency crisis and guess which countries would benefit from the surge in natural gold resources? Africa and Indonesia. If he didn't have anything to hide then he should just show his birth certificate (not some counterfeit facsimile) and get it over with.

[lv2surf]

One of the first thing Obama did was seal all his records 1st week in Office. You voted him in America You didn't do any research , we let the media make him out to be a God like rock star while they trashed much better canidates, Mr Obama is a domestic threat to the American way of life, right of the citizens and that term libs hate one nation under god!

[keepitacrime]

dec 21 2012 obama launches nuclear war, the world turns into a post apocalyptic wasteland, life sustains approximately 140 more years then the last man dies! welcome to the end!

[blckjade05]

@keepitacrime and in december 21 2012 i hope we remember this comment when nothing happens.

[tkreed51]

Its Americas Fault ,You just let a slap in your mommas face go by with a big ole fat smile muslim Barack hussain Obama ,Sounds kinda like osama binladin . And bush sucked as well .The last good guy we had was John F Kennedy..We been getting screwed eveysince.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!

[Nobamatruth]

That's what happens when the public elects people who refuse to follow the Constitution they swore an oath to defend.

[maryferry2]

Thats true! if he wasnt born here, then he shouldnt be the president. Crooks! and why doesnt he solute our flag by the way??? WHAT KIND OF FUCKIING PRESIDENT IS THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[angelfuck666999]

i cant believe people are afraid of this filthy maggot bottom feeder terrorist son of a bitch, i cant believe we cant just find out where he was born so we can end his time in office, everyone is regreting voting for him, and who ever did ur a fucking idiot and i forgive u for being a dumbass because i know u regret it, now can we please just fucking get this terrorist out of here and send him back where he came from, fuck!

[snarkthenews]

why is this idiot still in office?

[bunnybaby811]

dont you have to have proof of being born in america to be president????

[Nobamatruth]

Yes, but everyone with the power to do so, let him skate. They were all afraid of being labeled a racist. Every member of Congress, the Supreme Court and most members of the Media have committed treason. The Federal Courts still refuse to hear the cases against him claiming that no one has the legal right to question Obama.

[MoreTimeThanYouThink]

Did you not know that Obama is an alien... they do not all have green skin. Some look quite normal. Ha Ha Ha!

[thesixtiesguy]

This fucking maggot is a radical socialist that is bent on destroying this economy and this nation and what it stands for.. He is not really president because he was not born in this country. How can this happen? I know how our forefathers would have dealt with a phony, commie puppet, sabateur in the white house. How long will stupid America let this atheist idiot ruin this nation? And by the way. Now Hilliary is spending 100 billion on global conservation. Where is this money going? Or who?

[i2drunk2kill]

im with you all the way but rather than Athiest idiot i think hes a Muslim Anti-Christ and this whole thing is to destroy us from the inside out to globalize us

[phnx4life]

He knows he is not legally the president. Why?

Why would Team Obama attorney Robert Bauer threaten plaintiffs against Obama?

i.e."Bauer sent a letter to plaintiff Gregory Hollister, a retired Air Force colonel, of Hollister v. Soetoro, threatening sanctions if he doesn't withdraw his appeal of the eligibility case..."

Why spend 1.4 million dollars? Why threaten American citizens? Why not put the matter to rest with 10-20 dollars and a quick phone call to vital records?

[BLUTundGermany]

Because He is a muslim and a terrorist who will destroy us from within! Thats what they want!

[candiceevans1]

Obama is a radical communist and he will destroy this country if we do not stop him. Have we all gone mad?

[Yamahamod]

Obeyme is also a corrupt fraud. Just like Acorn.

[stillleenie18]

Obama - a disgrace.

[Chaen]

Fuck it.... Lets let someone from another country run ours. We clearly aren't doing a good job.

[Nobamatruth]

That is exactly what happened when Obama was elected, and now he is doing a great job destroying our nation. Gee, what a great idea Chaen. If you have any other brainstorms, please keep them quiet.

[i2drunk2kill]

@Nobamatruth hoorah brother thank you for sharing the truth the media will not dare share with us YOU are a true patriot

[RyanP91]

this issue was looked at by legitimate media. check out Chris Matthews recent interview with Bob Tyrrell, editor of the American Spectator, longest running conservative mag in the country- they looked into this issue over a year ago. they WANTED to find something wrong

[Nobamatruth]

You are a liar! Tingle legs Chris Matthews publicly stated that it is NOT his job to investigate, but to protect Obama, and make sure he is a success. If he did find something wrong, he would do his best to hide it. You've been drinking way too much Kool-aid.

[hidethisnine]

This president is more dangerous than any terrorist group.

[kellipeter05]

This man is a JOKE. A FRAUD. A terrorist. A communist. He WILL be removed from office and I will be smiling the whole day. WE MUST defend the constitution. Without it we have anarchy.

[allgotti]

Well, if we really accept that he is not a US citizen, wouldn't that make all of us a bunch of dumbasses for this? I mean the whole House, Senate, all depts, all are dumbasses. Well, he didn't bring those along.

[Nobamatruth]

That is exactly right. If you voted for Obama, you are dumb. All the man did was post a picture of a birth certificate, and all his idiot supporters voted him in. Not one of our elected leaders had the brass to say anything about it, for fear of being called a racist. Is it racist to realize Obama's father wasn't a us citizen? Everyone should have known, a natural born citizen is the child of 2 us citizens, not 1 citizen and a kenyan goat herder. Dumb isn't strong enough for what it was.

[allgotti]

Well, first off, i didn't vote for him, neither did i vote for McCain. Because I don't believe in "having to have to" vote just because I am limited to a person who is unknown to me, and a war criminal. As far as the laws of the United States is concerned, all you need to be to be considered a natural born, "is to be born i the US, has nothing to do with parents, even if both parents are illegal immigrants." We need to be educated on the laws of a land we proclaim our love to.

[Nobamatruth]

Well said, that you need to be educated in the laws of the land. it is clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. The Constitution requires the president to be a natural born citizen. What do you think that means?

[allgotti]

I have no intentions of arguing here, but honestly, go read the laws on that. U DO NOT need to have 2 or even one US born parent. All u need to be is born inside the US borders. If i was right, u owe me a lunch. :-D

[Nobamatruth]

Minor v. Happersett, October, 1874

"The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens." You owe me a dinner.

[allgotti]

After that, calling a university professor a goat herder, makes no sense man. It only shows rasicm on you part. You need to tone it down, get educated on the facts you are going to claim on your arguments, and then you will have an army behind you.

Until then.

[Nobamatruth]

LOL, all through the campaign, the media sold Obama to us. That is exactly what they called his father, and Obama has told the same story. His parents were a Christian girl from Kansas and a goat herder from Kenya, yet now I am a racist for saying that? When did I mention anything about anyone's race? Aren't there White people in Africa that raise goats too?

[007ObiWan]

To allgotti, when Barack gave his famous speech in Berlin in the summer of 2008, he proudly declared that his father was a goatherder. That's a fact.

[hamshow]

I heard that Barack Obama is really an alien being from another planet -- and more are coming -- they will first take over important positions in Government then they will have pods of duplicate humans.... Run for the hills before it's to late!!! Don't say I didn't warn you!!!

[Nobamatruth]

Hamshow, you really shouldn't take everything that Robert Gibbs and Nancy Pelosi say that seriously.

[1kel40b]

welcome to the new world order

[Nobamatruth]

Yes, except this is not the NWO that the founders of our nation had in mind. They fought for freedom from the World Bankers, and now Obama wants to give more authority to the Federal Reserve System, which seeks to enslave us.

[blackcherry1212]

interesting contrast to see him selecting justices where they would be the ones to accept the case. Seems like a serious confilt of on interest.

But whom am I to suspect someone in DC of protecting themselves with all means.

[Nobamatruth]

Well, if you are referring to Sonia Sotomayor, even if she took the case, she would no doubt side in his favor. 67% of her decisions have been overturned by higher courts. She, much like Obama, constantly makes the wrong choice.

[qwertyman129]

Wrong. Sotomayor's been overturned 3 times out of several hundred opinions she's written in over a decade. She's overturned less than 1% of the time. What you refer to is that she's been appealed 5 times. The SC overturns 65-75% of cases, so she does better than her peers.

And Alito and Scalia were overturned every time their cases went to the SC. So you're really just entirely wrong there, just as you're completely wrong about this birther crap.

[Nobamatruth]

Qwertyman, Do you ever check your facts?

I have seen a lot of your comments on youtube videos, and you are always wrong. While it may be true that the Supreme Court has only overturned 3 of her decisions, she was not always a Federal Appeals Judge. She was also a Judge in the lower Courts in New York, and many of her decisions were overturned by the Appeals Court. Are you really proud to be that ignorant?

[rushforce33]

No hand over his heart....way to respect the country you rep. Thanks dick....

2 pay cuts in one year here in the aviation business....

Bullshit Obama.....get the hell out

[Gunnypauly73]

I didn't vote for him!! Kick him to the curb as far as im concerned. He's a Joke. You can say what you want about Bush, but that man Loved Our Nation, and was a Patriot..Well as far as obama is concerned, I think the picture speaks for its self...

[dkk32843]

shame on you usa you have aloud this man to be our president of the united states and he is not even one of us. so you have to pay the price. i guess it's ok to say,,, stupid is as stupid does. now we are no different then any other country,, thanks alot people.

[supermarc26]

I agree with this person. SHAME on ANYONE that voted for this false prophet! I have a free and clear conscience on this issue. I DID NOT VOTE FOR BHO! Obama is NOT who or what people think he is! (unless they think he is trash!) Obama is NOT an American. Let's impeach and indict! Obama is a usurper!He is from kenya. Good job Morons.

[joserivera409]

Obama is an idiot!

[Angie2343]

Agreed. And a liar.

[ogrishTWO]

the obamazombies scare me. i live in canada and knoe ppl here who are all over him. some don't even know who thier own m.p. is, fools.

[moblou]

Corruption in politics is rampant especially in Chicago, where may I remind you all, Obama is from. Be afraid Americans, be very afraid. You may want to ask yourselves, what have we done?

[KevinMerck]

Go to worldnetdaily and sign petition.

[wtchuu]

THIS IS about our US Constitution from which ALL of our subsequent laws are based upon! Obama has admitted that at the time of his birth he had dual citizenship! See his Smears website! The natural born citizen for the Presidency means a person can NOT have dual citizenship... unless of course the US Supreme Court bypasses this & denies the Wrotnowski case oral hearing come this Mon, Dec 15. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE CONSITUTION and LAWS CONTAINED THEREIN.

[Greencloud8]

This is what I think...This guy burt i am real surprised that hes from new jersey and making a big fuss. I think obama would not be president is this is the case.however our country is too much in love with him which wouldnt be right. perhaps we can make him VP and joe Pres.. I learned in HS that you have to be natural born. Who wants some crazy running your country from another?

[Nobamatruth]

About 50% of America just doesn't understand what you do. They don't care if this would mean the end of our country, they want him to be President, and they don't care about the Constitution. Why make him VP? If something happened to Biden, he would be Preident. No, I don't think Obama is even a US citizen. We really don't know where he was born.

[KillHighPitch]

Hamilton's draft of the law. Nothing about parents.

"No person shall be eligible to the office of the President of the United States unless he be now a Citizen of one of the States, or hereafter be born a Citizen of the United States."

[Nobamatruth]

"or hereafter be born a Citizen of the United States" How was one born a citizen at that time in history? By being born to 2 US Citizens. Read the Naturalization Act of 1790. A natural born citizen is the child of 2 US citizens. The Naturalization Act of 1795 states that the Child born to a US citizen mother and an Alien father would not be a citizen unless he had fulfilled residence requirements.

[Nobamatruth]

Also, remember that Obama has never proved himself to be a citizen. Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17.8 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was BORN OUTSIDE of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the childs birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence. This law has been in effect since 1911. So as you can see from this law, Obama could have a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth, and NOT be a citizen of the United States. He refuses access to his original BC.

[Nobamatruth]

Hamilton's draft is NOT the law, but the Constitution is. It is clearly instructive. To be born a citizen would also discount all citizens that were naturalized. The 14th Amendment also states that the citizens must be under the jurisdiction of the United States. Obama admits he was born under the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom. A natural born citizen would not be under the jurisdiction of two nations.

[Rockmanzzzz]

I was born in 1962 and I have certified copies of my birth certificate. My certificate looks NOTHING like that forgery that Obama has posted on his website and other sites. Where is the following information? 1.Registration District No? 2.Registered No? 3.Child's birth No? 4.Mother's place of birth 5. Father's place of birth 6. Father's occupation 7.Doctor's name 8. Doctor's signature 9. Doctor's place of work 10. Doctor's license number 11. State he is licensed in?

[truthlive5]

When Obama was born he was both US citizen (by virtue,Hawaii) and by his father (UK citizen) Obama's Kenyan citizenship EXPIRED ON 8/4/82. He remain US citizen. A court in Virginia held that there was NO legal requirement that Obama renounce his Kenyan citizenship or affirm his US citizenship in order to maintain his status of NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

[Nobamatruth]

LMFAO. What case in Virgina? LOL Obama never had natural born citizenship to begin with. You just admitted her had dual citizenship when he was born. You can't have dual citizenship AND be a natural born citizen. What comedy show was this on?

[amarilly55]

The comedy show is what you are fabricating with these lies. To begin with: what with the writ of Certiorari? Nothing happened and nothing is going to happened because he is an American citizen. Natural born citizen is Not defined in the Constitution.

[Nobamatruth]

A citizen Or the President is not defined in the Constitution either. The phrase "natural born citizen" has been used and defined in law books for centuries. Let's say you are making cakes for a small army. The receipe calls for "1/2 peck of flour", and the cake pans have to be 1 1/2 cubits long, 1 cubits wide, and a 1/2 cubit deep. What would you do? Look up terms in a dictionary of course. Intellegent people don't just call people liars, before they check the facts.

[brder4ev]

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

[kadayo]

I think they should reword that to 'United States American Born' or something - after all, no matter the country, you are born natural unless your going to split hairs.

[Nobamatruth]

To be a natural born citizen means that you are a citizen by virtue of being born within a nation to other citizens of that same nation, and no other nation can claim jurisdiction over you or your parents. Not all citizens are natural born. Obama may have been born here but he was a British citizen from birth, because his father was a British citizen. He is not a natural born US citizen.

[Gwynne66]

According to the law, Obama *is* a "natural born citizen". If you don't like the law, you can always lobby to have it changed, but it won't do you any good in Obama's case because even though laws can be changed, they can't be changed retroactively.

Fact: Obama is a natural-born American citizen and all the carping from the right won't change that.

[Nobamatruth]

LOL According to what law is Obama a natural born ctizen? You made the claim, now quote the law, or admit you just lied. Put up or shut up.

[Gwynne66]

The Fourteenth Amendment makes Obama a "natural born US citizen". Unless you're going to try to argue that he was born before the 14th was ratified, you've got nothing.

[Nobamatruth]

The phrase "natural born US citizen", does not appear in the 14th Amendment. Now, do you want to try again, or will you now admit that you lied?

[Gwynne66]

I never said it did. It simply states that someone born in the US (which Obama certainly was) is entitled to all the legal benefits of a US citizen... including becoming president.

[Nobamatruth]

You said, "According to the law, Obama *is* a "natural born citizen", and "The Fourteenth Amendment makes Obama a "natural born US citizen". These are your words, as anyone can see, That is exactly what you said, and now you deny this? LOL The Constitution requires the President to be a natural born citizen. Obama may be a citizen, but he is NOT a natural born citizen, and no law can change that.

[Gwynne66]

The US Supreme Court disagrees with your interpretation of "the law". Nuff said.

[Nobamatruth]

Oh really? and when did they do that? When did the Supreme Court disagree with what I have stated?

[obamasensation]

US Code, Title 8, Section 1401, currently the law we use to define the citizens of this coutry:

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

It goes on, but that should be enough. Anyone considered a "national" here can run for president.

[Nobamatruth]

No, a National is not a Citizen, and can NOT be President. The Constitution requires the President to be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, not a NATIONAL. A Natural Born Citizen is a person that was born in the United States, and BOTH of his parents have to be citizens. Niether Obama or McCain are Natural Born Citizens.

[obamasensation]

Bud, its right in front of you. You don't have your facts right. I'm sorry, but the man qualifies. I mean, lawsuits over where he was born to the contrary, his parentage was never in doubt. People knew from day one who his father and mother were, that can be traced and confirmed. If he wasn't natural born as defined by our laws, he would have been black flagged back in 2000 when speculation about him running began.

[Nobamatruth]

"The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens." (The Law of Nations, BOOK I.

CHAP. XIX § 212, BY JOSEPH CHITTY, Esq. Barrister At Law 1883) Notice it says his parents are citizens. It does NOT say ONE of his parents is a citizen.

[obamasensation]

Was 1883 the publication date? Because the law I've quoted above is more recent, and is the current law by which such matters are decided. I don't mean to just go around in circles here, but it doesn't make sense if the law is intepreted the way you believe it is. Obama's parentage is easily traced. Surely you see how this would have become a much bigger issue well before now. If nothing else, John McCain or Hillary Clinton would have brought this up if the matter was that simple.

[Nobamatruth]

You seem a bit confused. Nationals and Natural Born Citizens are 2 different things. I was quoting from a legal text, and you are quoting an immigration law. Natural Born Citizens, do not require the application of an immigration law. If someone becomes a citizen though the application of a law, then they can not be said to be natural born. Obama is NOT a natural born citizen. He was born under the jurisdiction of a foreign government. He has admitted this, yet you deny it.

[obamasensation]

Apologies for all the posts I'm making on this topic. I do have a question for you. is it your understanding that a natural born citizen is born on American soil to two US citizens, without exception?

[Nobamatruth]

That is correct. US territories have always been considered US soil.

[obamasensation]

Actually, his mother was a natural born citizen, and only one parent has to be to claim US citizenship.

[Nobamatruth]

Yes, that is correct, but it takes 2 US citizen parents to be a natural born citizen. If Obama was not born in Hawaii, his mother was too young to pass citizenship on to him. If he was born in Hawaii, then he was a US citizen at birth, but not a natural born citizen, because his father was a citizen of the United Kingdom, which by law made him a British subject. If he had citizenship in two nations, then he is NOT a natural born citizen.

[obamasensation]

My apologies, I was mistaken in the distinction between a natural born and naturalized citizen. The critical factor for determining natural birth here is being born in Hawaii versus elsewhere. If he was born ON American soil, he is natural born (and would be, no matter who his parents were- they could be from mars and it wouldn't affect his status). The status of the parents becomes important if he was born outside of America.

[Nobamatruth]

No, you have to be born to 2 us citizens, on US soil. That is what a natural born means, you were born with no other allegiance to any other country. Obama was a citizen of the United Kingdom when he was born, and there is nothing he or anyone else, can no or say to change it. He was not a natural born citizen, and he can never become one later.

[amarilly55]

This is not true, what about the "anchor babies" when pregnant illegal alien women sneak into this country and have a baby here this baby is an American citizen. Period

[Nobamatruth]

The "anchor babies" are dual citizens. Yes they are US citizens, because they were born here, but they are also citizens of their parents homeland. A Natural Born US Citizen, would NOT be under the jurisdiction of any other country except the United States. This is not true of "anchor babies", who are under the jurisdiction of both the US and their parents nation.

[pavlove1]

An immigration lawyer told me that Obama is a natural born citizen. Why? because he was born in Hawaii(by virtue)and by virtue of being born to a father who was citizen of the UK he had dual citizenship but his Kenyan citizenship expired on 8/4/1982. A Court in Virginia held that there was no legal requirement that Obama renounce his Kenyan citizenship or affirm his US citizenship in order to maintain his status of "natural born citizen"

[Nobamatruth]

British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): "Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth."

[Nobamatruth]

A natural born citizen, can not be a citizen of two nations. Even if his UK/Kenya citizenship expired at age 21, you can not become a natural born citizen, 21 years after the fact. To be a natural born citizen, means that you are only subject to the jurisdiction, of the nation in which you were born, and this starts the moment you are born, NOT 21 years later. Obama was never a natural born citizen, so it sounds to me like you need a new lawyer.

[Nobamatruth]

A Court in Virginia held that there was no legal requirement that Obama renounce his Kenyan citizenship or affirm his US citizenship in order to maintain his status of "natural born citizen". LOL when did you dream that one up? Obama was never a natural born citizen to begin with, so there is nothing he could do to maintain, something he never had in the first place. LOL What Court case? LOL Who told you this? LOL

[obamasensation]

On the Kenyan debate, under their constitution Obama could have claimed status as a citizen due to his father's background. However, that opportunity would expire when he became an adult at 21. At that time, if he did nothing to claim that status he would effectively forfeit any status as a dual citizen (minors are allowed dual citizenship, adults are not under Kenyan law). Currently, Obama could not claim to be a citizen if he wanted to.

[Nobamatruth]

It doesn't matter that it expired when he was 21. You can't become a natural born citizen, 21 years after you are born. LMFAO.

[fleurdeliz5]

He was not a natural born citizen, then how he "run" for President. He has to "meet" all the requirements befor running, dumb!

[Nobamatruth]

Roger Calero was on the ballot too. He is a felon, and he is NOT a citizen. He has a green card. Now that is dumb, but he got votes too.

[tonyroccoJR]

I truly belive that Obama was not born in the USA. But here is the unfortunate FACT-- Someone in the upper regions on the US government will surly "create" an orginal birth certificate. So it looks like we are in a no win situation and you can blame all the fools that voted for him. May God have mercy on us all.

[TORCHforAMERICA]

lol i dont know of any black people that were born in hawaii... and i think those people would live there

[wtchuu]

You can now listen to the online interview that was broadcast the night Mr. Donofrio's website was brought down on Nov 22, 2008 here on Utube (broken into several 10 minute segments - total of 9). First one: youtube(dot)com/watch?v=IUmnlV yhs50 -- it is his case that is now before the US Supreme Court for FULL CONFERENCE on Dec 5, 2008. Also, Donofrio's NEW website for updates on his case: thenaturalborncitizen(dot)blog­spot(dot)com/

[Nobamatruth]

Remember people, even if Obama produces his birth certificate, he is still not a natural born citizen.

[offthahook08]

Heck "George H. Scherf" I mean "George Bush" isn't a citizen either. Hes from Germany. So now Obama has an legit argument . LoL this stuff is comical. The white man is comical. You only research stuff when it suits you. Its well known that George bush isn't a Citizen. The law has already been broken your about 26 years too late guys. You've out smarted your damn selves. You cant use the Constitution in Court Padelford, Fay & Co., vs. Mayor and Aldermen of the City of Savannah 14 Ga. 438, 520

[Nobamatruth]

And so you think that seeing how this Nazi plot has already been hatched, and put to work, that we should not bother to resist, and let the plan continue with Obama? Those stories are bunk. The author of those articles claims they are based on deathbed confessions of Skorzeny before he died in 1999. Skorzeny died in Spain in 1976. LOL you will believe anything except the truth. Your screen name suits you well-"Offthahook"-more like "off the wagon".

[Nobamatruth]

LOL, Yeah I'd like to see that. Obama argue that he should be allowed to be President because George Bush SR was really a Nazi spy put here by Adolf Hitler to spy on Tesla and then become President. What did you have for lunch? Fruitcake perhaps?

[ikickedyourdingo]

Did anyone see when the Candidates where at ground zero how Obama threw down his rose when McCain set his down gently? One of those men is a patriot the other is not, you decide.

[Nobamatruth]

Yes, and did you notice how he always approaches the military women more than the men. I noticed this, even in the videos, when he visited the troops. He ate with the women. It's like he was afraid of the men. It is also my understanding that the military ballots were not counted in the election.

[ikickedyourdingo]

people are swept up in "making history" instead of making correct decisions.

[MOJONIXION]

If he is truly a American born Citizen why does he not just show the documents and prove it. It would suck the wind out of the sails of those who say he is not. I Smell a Rat! We will find out soon enough who he really is. For now I will just buy a few Guns and ammo and hope that.this is not true.

[Nobamatruth]

If he could prove it he would.

[MOJONIXION]

I didnt vote for him. I was not amused with his choice of freinds. I Like my to keep my money for my own purposes. I don't care if my President is liked by the rest of the world. Infact if my President is TOO liked by the rest of the world it means he is "giving away the store". I dont like the idea of paying for other peoples Health care and Ect. I think diversity and multiculterism is Crap . I think Illeagal Mexicans are destroying AMERICAN CULTURE. Also I like owning guns. I hate commies

[m3mane30]

You must be a Racist. If the United states require that you be a natural born citizen what happened? Did they just somehow forget to check his qualifications? Do you really think that the United states GOV is that stupid? The CIA, FBI and Secret Service could not only find Bin Laden and WMDs in Iraq but also OBAMAS birth Certificates? You sound agry not because of a birth certificate but because of a black president. Admit it you racist bastard.

[Nobamatruth]

Are you really that ignorant? If the qualifications are checked, before someone becomes a candidate, as you seem to believe, could you please explain, how Roger Calero was able to run for President, as a candidate of the Socialist Workers Party in 2004 and 2008? He also ran for the US Senate in 2006 in New York. Calero was born in Nicaragua in 1969. He and his family fled to Los Angeles, California in 1985. Calero is now a permanent resident alien (holding a green card) since 1990.

[Nobamatruth]

The requirement that our President be a natural born citizen of the United States is set forth in the Constitution. It is not something that has been cooked up just because of Obama's race. Did you not have to provide proof that you are a US citizen to your employer? Do you think that was required just because of your race? Playing the race card like you do is getting pretty old, and it reveals that fact, that you are the racist. You can't deal with the facts, so you pull out that old excuse.

[spongboblover33]

ok how come now its racist not to like someone i dont like Obama becuase of his polotics not the fact that he is black. I thought this was sopossed to be a race free race why did Obama play the race card then?

and now if you dont know him your RACIST!!! thats bull its not racists to question an INEXPERIANCED UNTESTED senator with NO legislative OR military experiance

SO STOP SAYING PEPLE ARE RACIST FOR NOT LIKEING OBAMA GET OVER IT

[ogskeetdizzle]

and the plot thickens, how much evidence do they need, obamamaniacs need to grow up and get a brain

[patchouli85]

Please contact your state reps. and electorates and demand that they do not vote in Barack Obama until his eligibility is proven. If you are seeking the highest office of the land, you have to be transparent!

[bluecamaro98]

before 1900 in America and past 1960 all blacks were noted as "negroe" or "negro" on all public records from birth certificates, marriage licenses, passports, driver's licenses to death certificates. Whoever forged the Barack Obama birth certificate got caught in Mr. Obama's own political correctness." But Obama doesn't care about obeying the laws its obvious.. African is a race ? nope its a nationaility . theres no such thing as an African -American either as those too are nationalitys .

[69khz]

In addition to blocking access to birth records, he also blocked access to records from annenburg challenge, his harvard records, his columbia records, pretty much everything about this man has been blocked or sealed.. He is hiding something.

[ksurick]

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[Grandus11]

Obama sat on the board of the company that owns factcheck so naturally they are gonna say the document is the real macoy

[PayHere]

A "Certification of Live Birth" is what he posted to his website. That's just a short computerized form. It's not quite the same as a Certificate of Birth or Certificate of Live Birth. Why doesn't he submit a certified copy of his original birth certificate to the judge? What's the big deal? Why all the stalling around lawyers?

[DAISEYBBGUN]

Gretchen, your an idiot! All the Messiah has to do is produce a valid birth certificate. And, the problem goes away! Neither of his parents were citizens and according to HIS grandmother, he was born in Kenya and she was there. Sorry. Truth is truth.

[RyudoSama1]

And you don't think that his grandmother could be wrong? That old age has fogged her memory?

[Nobamatruth]

He also has a brother and a sister, that claim they were there too. Are they wrong too?

[Nobamatruth]

Gee how comforting to know that his Certificate of Live Birth, was examined by a website, that has ties to both Obama and Ayers. There is only one problem-It is NOT a Birth Certificate. Obama has refused to present his actual birth records in Court. Instead, he hired a team of lawyers, who have asked the case be dismissed, and all discovery of documents to be halted by the Court-all this time and money wasted rather than show us the true birth records. Why is that?

[flyboymd82]

If he's a U.S. citizen, why won't he just prove it and make Burke look stupid?

He went to school in Indonesia. Only Indonesian citizens are allowed to go to school there.

Imagine if he gets elected, THEN its proven he's not a U.S. citizen! We will be the laughing stock of the world.

[212trooper]

he's not a u.s. citizen

but the government will have to see his birth certificate to confirm it until then theres no chance

[1BuckeyeNation]

FactcheckDOTorg has looked at the the birth certificate and judged it valid but I do not know if experts validated it. I think the real problem is his possible dual citizenship that could be a problem.

[Nobamatruth]

Factcheck is owned by the Annenburg Foundation, which has direct ties the both Barack Obama and Bill Ayers. Even the Hawaii Heath Department, has stated that they can't say for certain what this image that Obama posted represents.

[mmmbad]

God help us all if he's elected.

[212trooper]

if he's elected were dead

[Nobamatruth]

Yes, using the powers in the Patriot Act, Obama would become a communist dictator.