Maybe more people will understand better if one removes the "1984 Newspeak" words, ie ' conspiracy theory ' and replace it with the words ' business plan '....
Btw there's a ratio of 10 to 3 in favour of inside job etc. Whoever leaving/protesting it''s not. You're just as guilty as the ones who plotted it bush, Cheney,Rothchilds etc
WOW!!!! lol an you've done no research....man study it 4 ur dam self an stop being stupid....if u study the events on 911, ull have lots of questions that need to be answered just like the people who lost loved ones on that day.....so if u wana call me a moron, just know ur callin poeple who lost loved ones morons as well....God bless ya
WILL PEOPLE WAKE UP!!!!!!! IF U DO YOUR OWN STUDY ON 9/11 U WILL ASK A HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS TO ASK!!! ITS PATHETIC HOW PEOPLE DNT EVEN WANA BELIEVE THAT 9/11 WAS A COVER UP!!!!! STUDY IT 4 YOURSELF TO FIND OUT THA TRUTH AN STOP BELIEVING THESE PATHETIC LIES THAT THIS DAM GOVERNMENT TELL YEAR IN AN YEAR OUT!!!! IF WE AS PEOPLE DNT WAKE UP THIS COUNTRY WILL FALL TO (TRYANNY)
@ivory29jaguar shut up you stupid asshole 911 was not an inside job and WTC was not controlled demo. You sound like a fucking idiot typing responses like the one you posted you fucking moron.
@SaneBoomer 1) you are too stupid to go to my channel and see my age?? 2) I am here to point out the obvious which is Alex Jones is a fucking idiot. The only people dumber than Jones are the fucking idiots that believe and follow all his bullshit. Truthers are fucking idiots. Retarded monkeys are smarter than Truthers.
By the way, Gravel's investigation is important but not essential. The essential 9/11 investigation has been complete for a long time now. It has established as self-evident truths that:
* the real 9/11 terrorists were the experts who blew up the twin towers before their complete evacuation
* the U.S. government gave them cover and protection
* the numerous watchdogs with a vested interest in denouncing the above have been looking the other way
It ought to be remembered that Gravel is hardly a 9/11 truth-seeker. He claims awareness of much information that unofficial investigators have discovered, but "we the people" are still waiting for him to state the self-evident controlled demolition of the twin towers.
@phliperphil fuck you. You do not speak on behalf of all Canadian you fucking dumb pile of shit. Go fuck yourself asshole stop giving Canada a bad name.
@phliperphil YOU FORGOT ABOUT BUSH JR THE BILDEBERGS/THE ROCKEFELLERS/ALL THEIR ADVOCATES. WE IN AMERICA KNOW THEM REAL WELL. IF PEOPLE DO,NT SPEAK UP NOW THEY,LL HAVE NO VOICE. IT,S A WORLD THING NOW.
@garrethdavis not trolling you stupid asshole it is pointing out the obvious. Jones is a fucking idiot and it looks like you are an even bigger fucking idiot. You pathetic loser
@phliperphil I have a brain buddy and anyone with a brain can see that Alex Jones is a fucking idiot. Since you seem to believe and follow his bullshit you are a bigger fucking idiot then he is. Get an education buddy.
Never heard of this gentleman before. He's wonderful, so sane, so easy to listen to and he breaks down the 9/11 situation to the point without prejudice. It certainly doesn't add up as he states. Bless his cotton socks... :o)
We're all like rats on a ship, most compartmentalized, most don't even have a clue as to Who Why nor How the World Bankers hold the Thermostat on how to make society not like their life of working hard in a Hijacked Sound Money System In 1913.
The first thing Alex said in this video is a really good point. I've seen a lot of people on the news say if dont like the pat-downs dont fly & that flying is a privilege.I believed that for a lil while but thats bullshit the TSA is all over the place.
No, the false narrative will never work again. I'd say there were "holes" in the official theory, but it is more like the theory is one big hole in and of itself. A 9-11 Truth and Reconciliation Commission. whereby people who can name names come forward to get amnesty, might be a good way to get to the truth, and using the mechanisms of the Patriot Act would make it easy to arrest and permanently jail those we all suspect but just cannot prove anything against. Put those FEMA camps to work.
Money is necessary to run a successful campaign. That people immediately accuse those who understand the importance of funding and ask for it of "trying to make a buck" by scooping off the top is totally silly. Not all who ask for money are scam artists. Most are just trying to be effective with their message.
what about the FBI claiming not to be able to find the flight recorders {black boxes}that are for the most part indestructable with tracking devices.But were able to find two flimsey passports identifying two hijackers.LOL anyone belive that story?s
@19linko Lets not forget the plane that vaporized going into the pentagon; titanium and steel vaporized with the heat yet they managed to get the fingerprints of the guy that was flying it,,,,,,,, go figure,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?
BUT It "is a posion pill" not only to them being re-elected should they hold public office, but als could jeopardize their "so-called public word" as being considered even half-way realistic! and of serious. I'm of the convicion that first FEAR of the establishment taking away their positions, and secondary losing their jobs which is another way of saying monetary income or pocket books which could not be more serious to those considering taking a public vs public stand on this issue. MGM.
I WILL SAY IT AGAIN! during the decade"s of the 80"s 90"s when the globalists and their planted puppett presidents were planing all their attacks and agenda for the nwo future. there were 2 things their think tank could not factor in or account for 1. the future which lead to the internet and the eventual invention of google and youtube.
2. george (Gilligan) bush jr. there was no way they could have known that clown would draw suspect red flags by him just being his idiot self ..lol
when I clikced on an user wich was exposing the traitor-scumbag-magotvomit Cahrlie Veitch, this showed up: ''This account has been suspended due to a violation of YouTube's policy prohibiting content designed to impersonate another person or user. '' PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is ridicolus
I'm here to bring attention to a minor shift in the truth movement. If you know who Charlie Veitch is, he has changed his mind on 9/11. He says he still believes there are criminals running the planet, but they didn't do 9/11. The BBC will have a documentary about it with Mr. Veitch as a guest. I see the psy-op. search for Max Igan and go to his channel and please listen carefully. He is asked to give out names of the producers and simply will not talk about it. This is important folks. Check!
@AmpSanders Wow thanks for sharing this I did youtube max igan and listened to part of that interview with Charlie Veitch - unbelievable that he now sides with the OFFICIAL STORY official conspiracy theory
@SaneBoomer i see it as an opportunity. Charlie was probably harrassed quite harshly to change his mind. That doesn't make it okay by any means, but when he shows up on TV lambasting us, keep in mind the incredible courage it took for Charlie to stand up at all, much less say 9.11 was inside job to begin with. Let's find ways to make this work for us and not in any underhanded ways. I think Mr. Veitch needs our help and support, just imagine the type of people he's dealing with....
@SaneBoomer im not apologizing for my understanding that 9/11 couldn't have happened without insider knowledge to begin with. My point is, Veitch is going to sell us all out, when people use him to laugh at us, instead of freaking out about it, we can use it to wake more people up to the facts. The more and more I wake up to my own understanding of reality, the more I see opportunity not downfall....strange thing that happens when you start to love the world you live in.
Ok, i'll go along with that. However, i see the guy as simply an opportunist and i wouldn't cut him any slack whatsoever. I was not familiar with Veitch before this incident, so i'm not a groupie either.
Anyway, we have reached a point of agreement, and to you i say, keep up the good fight.
AL QAIDA IS NOTHING BUT A SELF REPLICATING VIRUS THAT SPREADS ACROSS A REGION HELP BY LEADERS THAT KNOW THE REAL TRUTH BUT MISLEAD OTHERS INTO IT ITS EXACTLY LIKE THE CRIPS AND BLOODS AND MOST MODERN STREET GANGS THE CIA AND FBI FIGURED THIS OUT BACK IN THE 70S-80S IN TO THE 90S THAT YOU CAN CREATE A SELF REPLICATING FORCE THAT DOES NOT EVER NEED A CENTRAL LEADER TO SPREAD AND HAVE A DRASTIC EFFECT ON PEOPLE
PEOPLE DON'T WANT THE TRUTH IT WOULD DESTROY THEIR FALSE SENSE OF PATRIOTISM THAT THEY HAVE USED AS A CRUTCH FOR THE LEST 10 YEARS THEY CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH THE SYSTEM WILL NEVER EVER ADMIT THE TRUTH
"CIA spy" Davis was giving nuclear bomb material to Al-Qaeda
Double murder-accused US official Raymond Davis has been found in possession of top-secret CIA documents pointing to the American Task Force 373 (TF373) providing Al-Qaeda terrorists with “nuclear fissile material” and “biological agents," including a nuclear "dirty bomb."
U.S. 4-star General Wesley Clark (Ret.), explains that the Bush Administration planned to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Iran (2007 up to 2012)
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"Japan’s government, threatened with more HAARP attacks, pays 60 trillion yen to Feds"
all due respect to the senator and i think he has some great ideas, but i don't trust the masses of my fellow amerikans to vote something like this to happen. they're so brainwashed into believing the lies and they truly believe that it was some muslim group that had nothing to do with the us gov't.
@inbetweentics can you trust people more than the government? its not about trusting people, its about immense distrust for the government and authority.
"can you trust people more than the government?" - not when nearly half the amerikan public is on WELFARE and more than half of the rest are completely dumbed down and think more gov't is good! try talking to everyone you meet about the truth - the tsa, 911 inside job, the great culling, the federal reserve and just see how far you get. like aj, 99 people out of 100 will tune him out that hear his words, but we keep spreading the truth
@inbetweentics i would rather trust the people(who are naive yet have good intentions for the most part) than government(who have bad intentions. people are so naive they think government makes the world go round. many negativities of the mass population come from adapting to government. i would rather trust the naive than the malevelont
naivety = ignorance, ignorance is uninformed and you're saying ignorance is bliss? WRONG. you have to educate the masses of people on the TRUTH first BEFORE they can make an INFORMED decision with any RATIONALITY. we have had rotten presidents for the last 40 some years because people were naive. they make bad choices or choose to completely tune out to the truth when it is told to them. you can't just blindly trust the people til they remove the blinders and accept the truth
until the people have the TRUTH, they will continue to make bad decisions. can't trust naivety, IGNORANCE, of the masses to vote on ANY thing until they have the truth. that is why people like alex jones exist - to spread the truth and motivate others to do the same. i encourage you to share that truth with your friends, family, co-workers and all you know. we must all work together to enlighten as many as possible so more people DO make the right choices when it's posed.
@inbetweentics i agree its our job to wake people up, but regardless: i will trust ignorance over malevolence. people=positive intention, government=negative intention. the reason people are naive is in part due to schools that teach memorization and regurgitation, a society that teaches hate, and a media that teaches lies. humanity is a toddler, just wait til we start reading.
you're absolutely right about schools. they haven't taught the truth about anything in decades. but please remember that we can't trust ignorant masses - they're the same ones that got us both george w and obama. let's do all we can to help them see the truth so we can throw out the liars.
@inbetweentics i never said i trust the masses. i said i prefer ignorance to negativity. just because one prefers a to b does not mean that a and b are good options. and ur right its all about spreading awareness
Luisitania, Reichstag, Gulf of Tonkin, WTC Attack of 93', Oklahoma City, WTC Attack of 01'-911, plus the next one whenever they'll decide and many other examples that I have missed, look at the results of these "terror" attacks, there is a pattern....i just love the talking dunderheads who will simply dismiss someone as someone part of the tinfoil hat brigade any time you mention these FACTS, they can't argue FACTS so they will deny and attack... come on man... fuck that
The old America is gone, hollowed out, destroyed from within. It's already been replaced.
New Amerika, is built on a series of lies, fraud & total corruption. You can't fix that, no one can. You can pretend to fix it, all that does is fortify the lies. The lies behind 9/11 will never come out in this lifetime. A corrupt gov will never investigate itself. The America we knew pre-9/11 is condemned to history, it died in an expertly planned coup on 9-11-01, thru treachery, greed, & power lust..
I really have to question whether this guy, who is a FORMER senator would be talking about this if he was still part of the Crew Of Corruption. Actually, I don't have to wonder, I KNOW he would not be saying these things. Politicians are all the same..... don't ever question this.
"If you dont like the TSA, then don'y fly" Whoever thinks or says that is stupid and selfish. People like me have to fly from other countries and get on connecting flights so there isnt a way to avoid them and we cant refuse because we are going to end up stranded in another state. Also taking a bus or a cab would also cost a lot of money on top of the flight. So to avoid all this is to get rid of it. Its not helping anyone.It's just making everyone out to be a criminal.
Just watched vid on youtube called 'No emotional attachment to 911 theories-the truth is most important' by Charlie Veitch,and if you think he has any credibility I suggest you watch it too
@SubZero1703 Bloc? Elaborate plainly your point with proof to someone that has no clue what you're talking about. I understand what a shill is, but then, if you're saying Gravel is a shill then we'd have to say Alex is too, no?
Wow...things are moving so quickly and lots of people from our government are waking up and saying 911 was an inside job. I've heard lots of people from Japan believe so too and some of them are saying they probably used pure fusion weapon (stealth nuclear weapon?) to bring twin towers down. Maybe that's why lots of people are dying with cancer... If this was true, it is just evil.
Bush and Cheney are scared as hell right now however it will involve quite a few elites and may bring in other nations. i'd vote for a proper investigation.
If we don't blow 911 lies out of the water we and our children can look at a lifetime of fascism under the guise of the lie of a "war on terror" which will never end. If it's money that's needed, I'm willing to donate my life savings (after I find out WHO is "investigating"!). Wealthy people around the world who helped set up 911 are becoming very frightened, especially "officials" and "authorities" as well as business people in the US because, if found guilty of high treason, they can be SHOT!
alex didnt want to say his name, but he just called charlie veitch controlled opposition. i could feel the hate in that comment. alex do not like charlie no mo.
Can anyone show me a documentary that details the evidence about 9/11 supposedly being an inside job? Because I know very well there are strange details, and I think something's up there, absolutely, but I'm not convinced by loose change, nor zeitgeist, as they have both been debunked to the degree that they no longer are conclusive in my opinion. And please don't even bother with the "baa baa sheep die sheep!" stuff I usually get, it gets really old. I'm genuinely interested in hard evidence.
@Lleanlleawrg thousands of weird details and some are scattered. i dont know where theres a complete list of 9/11 anomalies or why one hasn't been compiled. but there are a lot of documentaries besides loose change, which i dont like too much either, and interviews with intelligence professionals, architects, visa officials, flight training school operator, all kinds. i think the motive for the false flag is strong, really strong. i like The New American Century watch?v=eFHQkHQcis0 .
@Lleanlleawrg the Sith Lord Cheney may approve of your... doubts. whether anyone likes ron paul as a presidential candidate or not, everyone should hear his "neoconned" speech from 2003. watch?v=aewpvcxAwTk
he'll never say anything about 9/11 inside jobbagery, for his own reasons, but he destroys the PNAC neocon criminals.
@jsmith2144 Well, I'm simply critical of all information I absorb. And considering the fact that there's always more than one side, I need to hear as much contradicting information as possible, preferrably with analysis from multiple sides, and sift through the data to make up my own mind based on what is most likely fact, what might be fact and what is most likely not fact. I wouldn't want to jump to conclusions because someone says something in an authorative voice, not from uncle sam, nor AJ.
@jsmith2144 "The New American Century" was a good watch. I knew most of this from before, but it doesn't hurt to be reminded of it. It didn't touch very deeply into the 9/11 issue however, at least not as far as concrete evidence pointing towards an inside job goes. But I think most people should see this one as well as "Iraq For Sale" which is also a very interesting documentary on war profiteering. And while I do not fully agree with Ron Paul, I agree with many of his points. It's a good vid.
@Lleanlleawrg how about the troops amassing around afganistan before 9/11?? bush signs attack order on 9/10/01, iraq oil split up a year before invasion, oh yeah buildings never collapse from small fire (steel).you must be hooked on flouride and mercury shots to believe in the 9/11 FABLE
I don't believe you. I researched WTC for years, until i had to move on, in disgust, and plain annoyance from people like you. My conclusion: people like you deserve the nightmare you are now living AND its only going to get worse until it ends in unthinkable hell. That the twin towers and building #7 were a CONTROLLED DEMOLITION is self evident, and in plain view. Simply do the work, wake yourself up, or continue to live the lie. Its your choice. You'll get what you deserve.
@SaneBoomer I am asking people to show me where to find solid evidence, or someone who can go through the solid evidence for me. I've mentioned that zeitgeist and loose change isn't gonna cut it, because too much of it has simply been debunked, so that what's left is not conclusive. It's indicative, but not conclusive. Call me crazy but I like to base my opinions on empirical evidence. I would have thought someone who put "sane" into their name would appreciate that quality in another person.
@Lleanlleawrg If you believe science is the answer to these questions, then why don't you visit the AE911truth channel or their (.org) site for highly detailed examination of the disaster? At last count there were 1,518 verified architectural and engineering professionals who state unequivocally that the government and main stream media accepted story defies logic, physics, and simply doesn't make any sense.
@Lleanlleawrg Another thing you might want to ponder and that was what offices were in WTC 7, e.g.; IRS Regional Council, U.S. Secret Service, C.I.A., Securities & Exchange Commission, Mayor's Office of Emergency Mgmt, and many more. How it's conceivable that when asked about the collapse of WTC Donald Rumsfeld was not aware of that building, a man who was 13th Sec. of Defense from 1975-1977 and the 21st Sec. of Defense from 2001-2006 that he was not aware of this? Seems extremely odd to me.
@MadeByEduNotLaziness Well this is a slightly more complex problem than 1+1=2, wouldn't you agree? And so I'd have to see hard evidence before drawing conclusions. Now if you think I shouldn't demand incontrovertible evidence before deciding what conclusions to draw, then I think your standards are very low. Try to understand what I've been saying: I don't buy what the government is saying - I am simply undecided. I have aknowledged not buying the official story. So what's your problem?
@Lleanlleawrg It's not my problem, it never was. You won't like what I have to say because it's the truth. You have to take the time out of your day to search out the truth on your own. Lazy people will demand sources when they do not wish to sincerely seek them. Jesse Ventura knows demolishion from his time as a navy SEAL. He said buildings free fall like that in controlled demolishion. Look at casino and other large building demolishions. Look at other aircraft crashes into buildings.
@MadeByEduNotLaziness "You won't like what I have to say because it's the truth." That's just such a fantastically stupid notion that I don't even know what to say to that. Also; Lazy people will demand sources when they do not wish to sincerely seek them? Where are you getting this from? That sounds like a major lack of understanding of how the world works. People need to cite source data for fact checking purposes, otherwise the information is useless.
@Lleanlleawrg Not true. That's what the schools and media declares. Know why? They know that you'll never look and often their sources are false! "This cite your sources" comment in the media has people thinking it's always right. Regardless of your opinion of that. This doesn't apply to you. People have cited their sources and you don't like them and you stop from digging deeper on certain people's sources. There's something called google. Type in what you want to research then make the call.
@SaneBoomer Yes, I saw the video. Someone else recommended it to me and I had a look at it. It does bring up some very interesting points, but I'm not entirely satisfied, partly because it's a lot of information to digest, and it will require a few re-watches and some crossreferencing before I can make a solid judgement. But okay, suppose the evidence is incontrovertible, let's look at another aspect of this: how many people would you need to involve in this plot? and how can it be kept secret?
Sorry, but i'm terminating this discussion now. Just as i thought, you are baiting for the purpose of asking the usual dumb questions. Good luck with it.
@SaneBoomer Yeah that Lleanlleawrg is saying that the government's version is more credible than the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth it makes me laugh. I wish people would do their own research rather than beleive EVERYTHING the government tells them. That's the problem with people. They ACCEPT everything the government tells them. I don't think people like Lleanlleawrg are ever going to wake up because they're in deep slumber in la-la land believing their government would protect them.
@solarDeviant Let me take a stab at explaining their problem, see if you agree. There is a paper on one of the 9/11 sites which i am too lazy to find, but it explains 'negative hypnosis'. The mind, due to a number of psychological influences maintains a kind of pseudo reality, keeps reality buffered, filtered, such that it excludes, by dimming, blocking out many facts and aspects of reality. That special reality is reenforced by media, so it becomes like a mass spell. Some of us awaken.
Analyzing my own moment of awaking, it came by accident. I saw a WTC video on youtube menu, and clicked on it. I watched #2 come down. Then watched it again. By the 3rd time, i realized something wasn't right. Then i watched #1 come down. Instantly i realized the big flaw in the illusion. Two buildings, and they both came down the exact same way from airplanes!! IMPOSSIBLE!!
Instantly awake. That was all it took. It's obviously a moment in time, a dawning, a gestalt.
Sorry its a bit long, but just wanted to conclude by saying what happens after you awaken. (this part is for dickhead there) After you snap out of the negative hallucination, its mixed emotions. Suddenly its as if being in a room where invisible furniture, there all the time, begins to materialize into view. One by one element, you now see reality for what it is, sans the negative black out. It can be shocking, gut wrenching, deadly, but there's no going back to sleep
@SaneBoomer EXACTLY. People like that sheeple are too afraid to question their government in fear of being called un-patriotic. I bet if the president told the public right now that 9/11 was an inside job they still wouldn't believe it LOLFor them it is incomprehensible because they believe that the government are protecting them, yet they have NO clue that they are the same people trying to kill them. But they have been hypnotized for so long, they keep all their eggs in one basket. Sad,really.
@solarDeviant Their government, is not their government. If that makes any sense.
Also, this dickhead, and that's what he is, i've met 100's, is not genuine. That's what makes him, a dickhead.
He is either (a) awake already, and therefore a malicious dickhead, or (b) not awake, and seeking to reinforce his inner fear, that the system has not failed him, in other words, a fully unconscious dickhead. In this case, he must snap out of it alone, in his own time. In his own moment.
@solarDeviant Seen it, and I find Jesse's standards for what constitutes evidence far too lax. All his episodes go like this: "I met this source (random guy) out in a random location, and he told me something without backing it up with evidence of any kind. Now we're dealing with a conspiracy. Let's investigate. Hm, people aren't forthcoming about this. Clearly a sign it's a conspiracy!" it's comical. I do love the guy, I really enjoy the show, but it wouldn't hold up in a lab, nor court.
@Lleanlleawrg Where is the plane that crashed into the Pentagon? Where are the wings, the tail, the two 9-foot Rolls Royce steel engines, the fuselage, etc? How does a 757 with a wingspan of 125 feet fit into a 16 by 20 foot initial impact hole? Why the apparent "STAND DOWN" by the FAA, NORAD, and NMCC on 9/11? NORAD had routinely intercepted planes 67 times earlier that year within 20 minutes each time and NEVER had a failure like they did on 9/11, nor after 9/11.
@Lleanlleawrg Heat from burning jet fuel was reportedly the sole cause of the WTC collapse? What a ludicrous theory! Steel melts at 2750°F. The steel in the Towers was certified by Underwriters Lab Inc. to withstand 2000°F for 6 hours! Jet fuel produces a max temp of 1800°F in a special combustion chamber. Theories that claim the steel melted from the jet fuel fire violate the laws of physics!
@Lleanlleawrg Also, steel frame buildings have NEVER collapsed due to fires! Steel frame buildings cannot collapse at free-fall speed, symmetrically, straight down into a relatively small pile of rubble due to fire. That’s a fact.
@Lleanlleawrg WTC maintenance workers confirm massive explosions in the sub-basement area that closely coincided with the aircraft impacts on the upper floors. FDNY rescuers also confirm coordinated explosions "like demolition charges" in the North Tower, as they escaped. The media conveniently failed to show these witnesses.
@Lleanlleawrg Civil engineering professor Hyman Brown, the WTC’s construction manager, WTC 1 and 2 were designed to survive an impact and resulting fires from a collision by the largest commercial aircraft at the time, a Boeing 707, carrying 23,000 gallons of fuel. He also stated the towers "could have easily withstood multiple airplane crashes".
@Lleanlleawrg Another feature that would be expected only if explosives were used to slice the steel columns would be molten steel, and its existence at the WTC site was indeed reported by several witnesses, including the two main figures involved in the clean up, Peter Tully, president of Tully Construction, and Mark Loizeaux, president of Controlled Demolition, Inc. Tully said that he saw pools of "literally molten steel" at the site.
@Lleanlleawrg Loizeaux said that several weeks after 9/11, when the rubble was being removed, "hot spots of molten steel" were found "at the bottoms of the elevator shafts of the main towers, down seven basement levels". Hot spots were recorded up to 1377°F 5 DAYS AFTER 9/11!
@Lleanlleawrg To top off this peculiar event, the steel structures and columns were quickly removed from the site (before any examination and to the objection of fire safety officials, firefighters, and victims’ families) and shipped to China and India to be recycled! (The real cause of the collapses was a highly sophisticated controlled demolition!)
@Lleanlleawrg How did WTC 7 collapse when no plane hit it? The collapse of Building 7 was later admitted to be a demolition by owner Larry Silverstein on a PBS interview in Sept. 2002. In a phone call with the FDNY chief regarding building 7, he said "We've had such terrible loss of life; maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse" referring to the demolition of building 7.
@Lleanlleawrg Larry later explains that "pull it" meant to evacuate firefighters, but there were no firefighters in the building at that time! Also, the FDNY is not equipped or trained to "pull" Building 7 in a controlled demolition as Larry stated. Nor can any building be prepared for such a well-designed demolition in the few minutes after Larry asked to "pull it". Coincidentally, Silverstein assumed a 99-year lease on the WTC Towers on July 24, just six weeks before Sept. 11.
@Lleanlleawrg After the attacks, Larry boldly asserted he was entitled to twice the insurance policy value because "The two hijacked airliners that struck the 110-story twin towers Sept. 11 were separate ‘occurrences’ for insurance purposes, entitling him to collect twice on $3.6 billion collective worth of the policies, or $7.2 billion."
@Lleanlleawrg (Do you think he wanted building 7 to collapse? The official FEMA report on WTC 7 concludes "The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time." Nice investigation there!)
@Lleanlleawrg Don’t believe that the government is capable or that ruthless to murder Americans to justify a war in Iraq? Read about "Operation Northwoods", which shows plans that Lyman Lemnitzer and the Joint Chiefs of Staff drew up in 1962 and approved for what may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government.
Regarding "Operation Northwoods", This is a largely over-looked part of the negative hallucination. I knew one of the Cuban pilots trained in Fla. They had a few squads of nationals ready and equipped to attack Cuba, cia funded, controlled. Then one
Maybe more people will understand better if one removes the "1984 Newspeak" words, ie ' conspiracy theory ' and replace it with the words ' business plan '....
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MrClicker100 3 months ago
Truthers are fucking idiots. Retarded monkeys are smarter than Truthers.
12weasel100 5 months ago
<--- obviously didn't watch video
johncantees 2 months ago
@johncantees no need to watch Truther videos it is all the same bullshit lies and edited statements etc. No facts in any piece of shit truther video
12weasel100 2 months ago
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MrEmotoz 5 months ago
I thought Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich were the only decent humans in Washington. Senator Gravel welcome to my list.
nuggz503 5 months ago
Btw there's a ratio of 10 to 3 in favour of inside job etc. Whoever leaving/protesting it''s not. You're just as guilty as the ones who plotted it bush, Cheney,Rothchilds etc
Dorsetlad1 6 months ago
Great interview. The US govt must be shitting itself
Dorsetlad1 6 months ago
Gravel is one of the very few honest and normal people representing it's citizens.
getourworldback 7 months ago
Gravel for President.
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WOW!!!! lol an you've done no research....man study it 4 ur dam self an stop being stupid....if u study the events on 911, ull have lots of questions that need to be answered just like the people who lost loved ones on that day.....so if u wana call me a moron, just know ur callin poeple who lost loved ones morons as well....God bless ya
ivory29jaguar 8 months ago
GET THAT BUM OUT OF WHITE HOUSE .
MORE CASH WAS SPENT ON THE JESUIT TRAINED BUM CLINTON AND MONIKA THAN ON 911 INVESTIGATION !
JESUIT GEORGETOWN , BOY CLINTON'S SCHOOL , WHERE JESUITS WROTE PATRIOT ACT .
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FKTHPOPE 8 months ago
WILL PEOPLE WAKE UP!!!!!!! IF U DO YOUR OWN STUDY ON 9/11 U WILL ASK A HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS TO ASK!!! ITS PATHETIC HOW PEOPLE DNT EVEN WANA BELIEVE THAT 9/11 WAS A COVER UP!!!!! STUDY IT 4 YOURSELF TO FIND OUT THA TRUTH AN STOP BELIEVING THESE PATHETIC LIES THAT THIS DAM GOVERNMENT TELL YEAR IN AN YEAR OUT!!!! IF WE AS PEOPLE DNT WAKE UP THIS COUNTRY WILL FALL TO (TRYANNY)
ivory29jaguar 8 months ago
@ivory29jaguar shut up you stupid asshole 911 was not an inside job and WTC was not controlled demo. You sound like a fucking idiot typing responses like the one you posted you fucking moron.
12weasel100 8 months ago
@12weasel100
Two questions:
1) how old are you?
2) why are you here, on this thread?
SaneBoomer 8 months ago
@SaneBoomer 1) you are too stupid to go to my channel and see my age?? 2) I am here to point out the obvious which is Alex Jones is a fucking idiot. The only people dumber than Jones are the fucking idiots that believe and follow all his bullshit. Truthers are fucking idiots. Retarded monkeys are smarter than Truthers.
12weasel100 8 months ago
@12weasel100 Go back under the bridge troll!!
NazcarFanatic24 6 months ago
@NazcarFanatic24 go back to school and get an education you pathetic sack of pig shit.
12weasel100 6 months ago
if alex is an idiot then all the guests on the show are idiots too? the info he is giving is wrong? why is he an idiot? I dont get it
Grock66 8 months ago
By the way, Gravel's investigation is important but not essential. The essential 9/11 investigation has been complete for a long time now. It has established as self-evident truths that:
* the real 9/11 terrorists were the experts who blew up the twin towers before their complete evacuation
* the U.S. government gave them cover and protection
* the numerous watchdogs with a vested interest in denouncing the above have been looking the other way
Love,
DanUuNoel 8 months ago
It ought to be remembered that Gravel is hardly a 9/11 truth-seeker. He claims awareness of much information that unofficial investigators have discovered, but "we the people" are still waiting for him to state the self-evident controlled demolition of the twin towers.
cont'd
DanUuNoel 8 months ago
DESIRE THE TRUTH. INVESTIGATE 9/11.
MrDeppness 8 months ago
We in Canada know who the culprit is for 9-11 His names is fucking chaney and bush senior..
phliperphil 8 months ago
@phliperphil fuck you. You do not speak on behalf of all Canadian you fucking dumb pile of shit. Go fuck yourself asshole stop giving Canada a bad name.
12weasel100 8 months ago
@phliperphil YOU FORGOT ABOUT BUSH JR THE BILDEBERGS/THE ROCKEFELLERS/ALL THEIR ADVOCATES. WE IN AMERICA KNOW THEM REAL WELL. IF PEOPLE DO,NT SPEAK UP NOW THEY,LL HAVE NO VOICE. IT,S A WORLD THING NOW.
61TUNER 8 months ago
We in Canada know who the culprit is for 9-11 His name is fucking chaney and bush senior..
phliperphil 8 months ago
Alex Jones is a fucking idiot. The only people dumber than Jones are the fucking idiots that believe and follow his bullshit.
12weasel100 8 months ago
@12weasel100 Your facts convinced me ;)
Landazar321 8 months ago 2
@Landazar321 no problem
12weasel100 8 months ago
@12weasel100 Damn, that;s some sweet trolling you're doing there.
I commend you, Sir!
garrethdavis 8 months ago
@garrethdavis not trolling you stupid asshole it is pointing out the obvious. Jones is a fucking idiot and it looks like you are an even bigger fucking idiot. You pathetic loser
12weasel100 8 months ago
@12weasel100 haha piss you off fool.
garrethdavis 8 months ago
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12weasel100 8 months ago
@12weasel100 Tahts how a fucking weasel Would think. Get a brain buddy..
phliperphil 8 months ago
@phliperphil I have a brain buddy and anyone with a brain can see that Alex Jones is a fucking idiot. Since you seem to believe and follow his bullshit you are a bigger fucking idiot then he is. Get an education buddy.
12weasel100 8 months ago
Never heard of this gentleman before. He's wonderful, so sane, so easy to listen to and he breaks down the 9/11 situation to the point without prejudice. It certainly doesn't add up as he states. Bless his cotton socks... :o)
TruthSeekingElf 8 months ago
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youneekk 8 months ago
the plane videos were falsified
Dave7689 8 months ago
The first thing Alex said in this video is a really good point. I've seen a lot of people on the news say if dont like the pat-downs dont fly & that flying is a privilege.I believed that for a lil while but thats bullshit the TSA is all over the place.
IIDivineShadowII 8 months ago
No, the false narrative will never work again. I'd say there were "holes" in the official theory, but it is more like the theory is one big hole in and of itself. A 9-11 Truth and Reconciliation Commission. whereby people who can name names come forward to get amnesty, might be a good way to get to the truth, and using the mechanisms of the Patriot Act would make it easy to arrest and permanently jail those we all suspect but just cannot prove anything against. Put those FEMA camps to work.
virgy45 8 months ago
How many times did Gravel ask for money in this clip? It's sick that he want to turn a buck off of 9-11.
craigrlaw 8 months ago
@craigrlaw
Money is necessary to run a successful campaign. That people immediately accuse those who understand the importance of funding and ask for it of "trying to make a buck" by scooping off the top is totally silly. Not all who ask for money are scam artists. Most are just trying to be effective with their message.
OpenYourMindQuaid 8 months ago
@craigrlaw Oh. You mean just like Al Whore and the myth of Anthropomorphic Global Warming.
drreedindeed 8 months ago
what about the FBI claiming not to be able to find the flight recorders {black boxes}that are for the most part indestructable with tracking devices.But were able to find two flimsey passports identifying two hijackers.LOL anyone belive that story?s
19linko 8 months ago 13
@19linko Lets not forget the plane that vaporized going into the pentagon; titanium and steel vaporized with the heat yet they managed to get the fingerprints of the guy that was flying it,,,,,,,, go figure,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?
orrinoconnor 3 months ago
BUT It "is a posion pill" not only to them being re-elected should they hold public office, but als could jeopardize their "so-called public word" as being considered even half-way realistic! and of serious. I'm of the convicion that first FEAR of the establishment taking away their positions, and secondary losing their jobs which is another way of saying monetary income or pocket books which could not be more serious to those considering taking a public vs public stand on this issue. MGM.
agbtg7 8 months ago
I WILL SAY IT AGAIN! during the decade"s of the 80"s 90"s when the globalists and their planted puppett presidents were planing all their attacks and agenda for the nwo future. there were 2 things their think tank could not factor in or account for 1. the future which lead to the internet and the eventual invention of google and youtube.
2. george (Gilligan) bush jr. there was no way they could have known that clown would draw suspect red flags by him just being his idiot self ..lol
88DRocker1 8 months ago
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007thinkagain 8 months ago
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gspotjazz 8 months ago
I'm here to bring attention to a minor shift in the truth movement. If you know who Charlie Veitch is, he has changed his mind on 9/11. He says he still believes there are criminals running the planet, but they didn't do 9/11. The BBC will have a documentary about it with Mr. Veitch as a guest. I see the psy-op. search for Max Igan and go to his channel and please listen carefully. He is asked to give out names of the producers and simply will not talk about it. This is important folks. Check!
AmpSanders 8 months ago
@AmpSanders Wow thanks for sharing this I did youtube max igan and listened to part of that interview with Charlie Veitch - unbelievable that he now sides with the OFFICIAL STORY official conspiracy theory
What happened ???
COCKROACHEXS999 8 months ago
@AmpSanders
Check, will do.
SaneBoomer 8 months ago
@AmpSanders
9/11 is now a belief system? A cult of truth?
Fuck off Charlie Veitch, this is bull shit.
Redact Veitch out - now. Right now. You hesitate, you lose.
SaneBoomer 8 months ago
@SaneBoomer i see it as an opportunity. Charlie was probably harrassed quite harshly to change his mind. That doesn't make it okay by any means, but when he shows up on TV lambasting us, keep in mind the incredible courage it took for Charlie to stand up at all, much less say 9.11 was inside job to begin with. Let's find ways to make this work for us and not in any underhanded ways. I think Mr. Veitch needs our help and support, just imagine the type of people he's dealing with....
AmpSanders 8 months ago
@AmpSanders
I am diametrically opposed to that view point, and i don't feel the need to apologize. Do what you have to do.
SaneBoomer 8 months ago
@SaneBoomer im not apologizing for my understanding that 9/11 couldn't have happened without insider knowledge to begin with. My point is, Veitch is going to sell us all out, when people use him to laugh at us, instead of freaking out about it, we can use it to wake more people up to the facts. The more and more I wake up to my own understanding of reality, the more I see opportunity not downfall....strange thing that happens when you start to love the world you live in.
AmpSanders 8 months ago
@AmpSanders
Ok, i'll go along with that. However, i see the guy as simply an opportunist and i wouldn't cut him any slack whatsoever. I was not familiar with Veitch before this incident, so i'm not a groupie either.
Anyway, we have reached a point of agreement, and to you i say, keep up the good fight.
SaneBoomer 8 months ago
@SaneBoomer good day sir. friend invite on it's way.
AmpSanders 8 months ago
@AmpSanders I,M MOVING TO SACRAMENTO TO KEEP IN THE LOOP/TRY TO FORM A RALLY.
61TUNER 8 months ago
i like mike, mike is with the people... 8)
BankofSpirit 8 months ago
WE ARE THE FOURTH REICH NOW. THERE WILL BE NO JUSTICE UNTIL WE REBEL.
prussell66 8 months ago
Glenn Beck Denies the Truth about 9/11 and Obama's Birth Certificate.
Glenn Beck is complicit in killing the Truth, the Light and the Way.
TonyUnplugged 8 months ago
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007thinkagain 8 months ago
If you don't believe Jews were behind 911, then search up use liberty and operation cyanide. They did it once they will do it again.
dragnet53 8 months ago
Zionist Jews were behind 911 and even alex Jones agreed.
dragnet53 8 months ago
I just want the information from the flight recorders and the videos, not too much to ask.
33115566 8 months ago
AL QAIDA IS NOTHING BUT A SELF REPLICATING VIRUS THAT SPREADS ACROSS A REGION HELP BY LEADERS THAT KNOW THE REAL TRUTH BUT MISLEAD OTHERS INTO IT ITS EXACTLY LIKE THE CRIPS AND BLOODS AND MOST MODERN STREET GANGS THE CIA AND FBI FIGURED THIS OUT BACK IN THE 70S-80S IN TO THE 90S THAT YOU CAN CREATE A SELF REPLICATING FORCE THAT DOES NOT EVER NEED A CENTRAL LEADER TO SPREAD AND HAVE A DRASTIC EFFECT ON PEOPLE
casualtybeats 8 months ago
PEOPLE DON'T WANT THE TRUTH IT WOULD DESTROY THEIR FALSE SENSE OF PATRIOTISM THAT THEY HAVE USED AS A CRUTCH FOR THE LEST 10 YEARS THEY CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH THE SYSTEM WILL NEVER EVER ADMIT THE TRUTH
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USFullOfLies 8 months ago
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USFullOfLies 8 months ago
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USFullOfLies 8 months ago
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U.S. 4-star General Wesley Clark (Ret.), explains that the Bush Administration planned to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Iran (2007 up to 2012)
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USFullOfLies 8 months ago
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007thinkagain 8 months ago
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crypter27 8 months ago
Everyone needs to watch this video, its an eye-opener.
Mike Gravel Speaks Out Against the Vietnam War (1971)
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SaneBoomer 8 months ago
all due respect to the senator and i think he has some great ideas, but i don't trust the masses of my fellow amerikans to vote something like this to happen. they're so brainwashed into believing the lies and they truly believe that it was some muslim group that had nothing to do with the us gov't.
inbetweentics 8 months ago
@inbetweentics can you trust people more than the government? its not about trusting people, its about immense distrust for the government and authority.
AtheistAnarchoRudi 8 months ago
@AtheistAnarchoRudi
"can you trust people more than the government?" - not when nearly half the amerikan public is on WELFARE and more than half of the rest are completely dumbed down and think more gov't is good! try talking to everyone you meet about the truth - the tsa, 911 inside job, the great culling, the federal reserve and just see how far you get. like aj, 99 people out of 100 will tune him out that hear his words, but we keep spreading the truth
inbetweentics 8 months ago
@inbetweentics i would rather trust the people(who are naive yet have good intentions for the most part) than government(who have bad intentions. people are so naive they think government makes the world go round. many negativities of the mass population come from adapting to government. i would rather trust the naive than the malevelont
AtheistAnarchoRudi 8 months ago
@AtheistAnarchoRudi
naivety = ignorance, ignorance is uninformed and you're saying ignorance is bliss? WRONG. you have to educate the masses of people on the TRUTH first BEFORE they can make an INFORMED decision with any RATIONALITY. we have had rotten presidents for the last 40 some years because people were naive. they make bad choices or choose to completely tune out to the truth when it is told to them. you can't just blindly trust the people til they remove the blinders and accept the truth
inbetweentics 8 months ago
@AtheistAnarchoRudi
until the people have the TRUTH, they will continue to make bad decisions. can't trust naivety, IGNORANCE, of the masses to vote on ANY thing until they have the truth. that is why people like alex jones exist - to spread the truth and motivate others to do the same. i encourage you to share that truth with your friends, family, co-workers and all you know. we must all work together to enlighten as many as possible so more people DO make the right choices when it's posed.
inbetweentics 8 months ago
@inbetweentics i agree its our job to wake people up, but regardless: i will trust ignorance over malevolence. people=positive intention, government=negative intention. the reason people are naive is in part due to schools that teach memorization and regurgitation, a society that teaches hate, and a media that teaches lies. humanity is a toddler, just wait til we start reading.
AtheistAnarchoRudi 8 months ago
@AtheistAnarchoRudi
you're absolutely right about schools. they haven't taught the truth about anything in decades. but please remember that we can't trust ignorant masses - they're the same ones that got us both george w and obama. let's do all we can to help them see the truth so we can throw out the liars.
inbetweentics 8 months ago
@inbetweentics i never said i trust the masses. i said i prefer ignorance to negativity. just because one prefers a to b does not mean that a and b are good options. and ur right its all about spreading awareness
AtheistAnarchoRudi 8 months ago
Luisitania, Reichstag, Gulf of Tonkin, WTC Attack of 93', Oklahoma City, WTC Attack of 01'-911, plus the next one whenever they'll decide and many other examples that I have missed, look at the results of these "terror" attacks, there is a pattern....i just love the talking dunderheads who will simply dismiss someone as someone part of the tinfoil hat brigade any time you mention these FACTS, they can't argue FACTS so they will deny and attack... come on man... fuck that
redeem72 8 months ago
The old America is gone, hollowed out, destroyed from within. It's already been replaced.
New Amerika, is built on a series of lies, fraud & total corruption. You can't fix that, no one can. You can pretend to fix it, all that does is fortify the lies. The lies behind 9/11 will never come out in this lifetime. A corrupt gov will never investigate itself. The America we knew pre-9/11 is condemned to history, it died in an expertly planned coup on 9-11-01, thru treachery, greed, & power lust..
SaneBoomer 8 months ago 3
Go Gravel!
MustacheVerra 8 months ago
I really have to question whether this guy, who is a FORMER senator would be talking about this if he was still part of the Crew Of Corruption. Actually, I don't have to wonder, I KNOW he would not be saying these things. Politicians are all the same..... don't ever question this.
mcap52 8 months ago
Mike Gravel traitor, he ran up a $90,000 dollar credit card debt, dumped on the tax payer.
DIJV79 8 months ago
" Designed to fail " ???. This is an obstruction of justice according to the laws . The Administration version of events did NOT make sense at all .
strongfoot2009 8 months ago
"If you dont like the TSA, then don'y fly" Whoever thinks or says that is stupid and selfish. People like me have to fly from other countries and get on connecting flights so there isnt a way to avoid them and we cant refuse because we are going to end up stranded in another state. Also taking a bus or a cab would also cost a lot of money on top of the flight. So to avoid all this is to get rid of it. Its not helping anyone.It's just making everyone out to be a criminal.
Robdee999 8 months ago
this guy look like Eli Wallach, from the good the bad and the ugly.
mahender6969 8 months ago
Just watched vid on youtube called 'No emotional attachment to 911 theories-the truth is most important' by Charlie Veitch,and if you think he has any credibility I suggest you watch it too
rstanleyfortruth 8 months ago
Hang the past government , you have to be blind to think terrorists did this the only terrorist is bush and his cronies !!
courtwt569 8 months ago 2
You should have filmed this gigling BBC shill.
Agnostic2008 8 months ago
@2012Bec what's all this business about Veitch being exposed?
ouluvme2 8 months ago
@ouluvme2 There was some rumour that Bloc are after him for being a Govt schill.
SubZero1703 8 months ago
@SubZero1703 Bloc? Elaborate plainly your point with proof to someone that has no clue what you're talking about. I understand what a shill is, but then, if you're saying Gravel is a shill then we'd have to say Alex is too, no?
ouluvme2 8 months ago
@ouluvme2 Oh dear. Must be hard for you being out of the active Protest Mix. Sorry about that.
SubZero1703 8 months ago
@SubZero1703 No problem. I have a busy and important life. Unfortunately I can't stay glued to the "mix" like some.
ouluvme2 8 months ago
@ouluvme2 Forgiven Keyboard Warrior. All support helps I guess :)
SubZero1703 8 months ago
Wow...things are moving so quickly and lots of people from our government are waking up and saying 911 was an inside job. I've heard lots of people from Japan believe so too and some of them are saying they probably used pure fusion weapon (stealth nuclear weapon?) to bring twin towers down. Maybe that's why lots of people are dying with cancer... If this was true, it is just evil.
Ganseblumchen12 8 months ago
@kbspapa Where did you get this quote from?
verlouria 8 months ago
hang the traitors!
sethzky77 8 months ago
@kbspapa When did he say that? And in what context?
thedemoboy 8 months ago
I pity on those who still believe in official 9/11 version.
kkbose 8 months ago 3
I hope that the senator's promises are not just words. I hope he will lead and new and clean investigation.
johnnyone9 8 months ago 2
Bush and Cheney are scared as hell right now however it will involve quite a few elites and may bring in other nations. i'd vote for a proper investigation.
AloysiusAtJSP 8 months ago
@AloysiusAtJSP
I also think alot of foreign people would donate to this cause too.
AloysiusAtJSP 8 months ago 2
If we don't blow 911 lies out of the water we and our children can look at a lifetime of fascism under the guise of the lie of a "war on terror" which will never end. If it's money that's needed, I'm willing to donate my life savings (after I find out WHO is "investigating"!). Wealthy people around the world who helped set up 911 are becoming very frightened, especially "officials" and "authorities" as well as business people in the US because, if found guilty of high treason, they can be SHOT!
t4705mb6 8 months ago 38
@t4705mb6 Check out agenda 21. I dont think you and your children will be around for much longer
iwalkbefordeath 8 months ago
@iwalkbefordeath I am familiar with 21 for many years. All the more reason to drag these MFs out of their mansions and get RID of them .....for good!
t4705mb6 8 months ago
alex didnt want to say his name, but he just called charlie veitch controlled opposition. i could feel the hate in that comment. alex do not like charlie no mo.
jsmith2144 8 months ago 3
Can anyone show me a documentary that details the evidence about 9/11 supposedly being an inside job? Because I know very well there are strange details, and I think something's up there, absolutely, but I'm not convinced by loose change, nor zeitgeist, as they have both been debunked to the degree that they no longer are conclusive in my opinion. And please don't even bother with the "baa baa sheep die sheep!" stuff I usually get, it gets really old. I'm genuinely interested in hard evidence.
Lleanlleawrg 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg thousands of weird details and some are scattered. i dont know where theres a complete list of 9/11 anomalies or why one hasn't been compiled. but there are a lot of documentaries besides loose change, which i dont like too much either, and interviews with intelligence professionals, architects, visa officials, flight training school operator, all kinds. i think the motive for the false flag is strong, really strong. i like The New American Century watch?v=eFHQkHQcis0 .
jsmith2144 8 months ago
@jsmith2144 Alrighty, I'll check that out, and see how that grabs me.
Lleanlleawrg 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg the Sith Lord Cheney may approve of your... doubts. whether anyone likes ron paul as a presidential candidate or not, everyone should hear his "neoconned" speech from 2003. watch?v=aewpvcxAwTk
he'll never say anything about 9/11 inside jobbagery, for his own reasons, but he destroys the PNAC neocon criminals.
jsmith2144 8 months ago
@jsmith2144 Well, I'm simply critical of all information I absorb. And considering the fact that there's always more than one side, I need to hear as much contradicting information as possible, preferrably with analysis from multiple sides, and sift through the data to make up my own mind based on what is most likely fact, what might be fact and what is most likely not fact. I wouldn't want to jump to conclusions because someone says something in an authorative voice, not from uncle sam, nor AJ.
Lleanlleawrg 8 months ago
@jsmith2144 "The New American Century" was a good watch. I knew most of this from before, but it doesn't hurt to be reminded of it. It didn't touch very deeply into the 9/11 issue however, at least not as far as concrete evidence pointing towards an inside job goes. But I think most people should see this one as well as "Iraq For Sale" which is also a very interesting documentary on war profiteering. And while I do not fully agree with Ron Paul, I agree with many of his points. It's a good vid.
Lleanlleawrg 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg how about the troops amassing around afganistan before 9/11?? bush signs attack order on 9/10/01, iraq oil split up a year before invasion, oh yeah buildings never collapse from small fire (steel).you must be hooked on flouride and mercury shots to believe in the 9/11 FABLE
TheManners112 8 months ago 3
@Lleanlleawrg
I don't believe you. I researched WTC for years, until i had to move on, in disgust, and plain annoyance from people like you. My conclusion: people like you deserve the nightmare you are now living AND its only going to get worse until it ends in unthinkable hell. That the twin towers and building #7 were a CONTROLLED DEMOLITION is self evident, and in plain view. Simply do the work, wake yourself up, or continue to live the lie. Its your choice. You'll get what you deserve.
SaneBoomer 8 months ago 11
@SaneBoomer I am asking people to show me where to find solid evidence, or someone who can go through the solid evidence for me. I've mentioned that zeitgeist and loose change isn't gonna cut it, because too much of it has simply been debunked, so that what's left is not conclusive. It's indicative, but not conclusive. Call me crazy but I like to base my opinions on empirical evidence. I would have thought someone who put "sane" into their name would appreciate that quality in another person.
Lleanlleawrg 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg If you believe science is the answer to these questions, then why don't you visit the AE911truth channel or their (.org) site for highly detailed examination of the disaster? At last count there were 1,518 verified architectural and engineering professionals who state unequivocally that the government and main stream media accepted story defies logic, physics, and simply doesn't make any sense.
I also suggest David Chandlers detailed analysis.
mattghtpa 8 months ago
@mattghtpa Then I shall have a look at that as well.
Lleanlleawrg 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg Another thing you might want to ponder and that was what offices were in WTC 7, e.g.; IRS Regional Council, U.S. Secret Service, C.I.A., Securities & Exchange Commission, Mayor's Office of Emergency Mgmt, and many more. How it's conceivable that when asked about the collapse of WTC Donald Rumsfeld was not aware of that building, a man who was 13th Sec. of Defense from 1975-1977 and the 21st Sec. of Defense from 2001-2006 that he was not aware of this? Seems extremely odd to me.
mattghtpa 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg How many math books did you have to read before you conclusively understood that 1+1=2.
MadeByEduNotLaziness 8 months ago
@MadeByEduNotLaziness Well this is a slightly more complex problem than 1+1=2, wouldn't you agree? And so I'd have to see hard evidence before drawing conclusions. Now if you think I shouldn't demand incontrovertible evidence before deciding what conclusions to draw, then I think your standards are very low. Try to understand what I've been saying: I don't buy what the government is saying - I am simply undecided. I have aknowledged not buying the official story. So what's your problem?
Lleanlleawrg 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg It's not my problem, it never was. You won't like what I have to say because it's the truth. You have to take the time out of your day to search out the truth on your own. Lazy people will demand sources when they do not wish to sincerely seek them. Jesse Ventura knows demolishion from his time as a navy SEAL. He said buildings free fall like that in controlled demolishion. Look at casino and other large building demolishions. Look at other aircraft crashes into buildings.
MadeByEduNotLaziness 8 months ago
@MadeByEduNotLaziness "You won't like what I have to say because it's the truth." That's just such a fantastically stupid notion that I don't even know what to say to that. Also; Lazy people will demand sources when they do not wish to sincerely seek them? Where are you getting this from? That sounds like a major lack of understanding of how the world works. People need to cite source data for fact checking purposes, otherwise the information is useless.
Lleanlleawrg 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg Not true. That's what the schools and media declares. Know why? They know that you'll never look and often their sources are false! "This cite your sources" comment in the media has people thinking it's always right. Regardless of your opinion of that. This doesn't apply to you. People have cited their sources and you don't like them and you stop from digging deeper on certain people's sources. There's something called google. Type in what you want to research then make the call.
MadeByEduNotLaziness 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg => ae911truth
- Mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking
- Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds
- 1200-ft-dia debris field: no "pancaked" floors found
- Isolated explosive ejections 20–40 stories below demolition front
- Total building destruction: dismemberment of steel frame
- tons of molten metal found under all 3 high-rises
- Evidence of thermite incendiaries found by FEMA in steel samples
- Evidence of explosives found in dust samples
SaneBoomer 8 months ago
@SaneBoomer Yes, I saw the video. Someone else recommended it to me and I had a look at it. It does bring up some very interesting points, but I'm not entirely satisfied, partly because it's a lot of information to digest, and it will require a few re-watches and some crossreferencing before I can make a solid judgement. But okay, suppose the evidence is incontrovertible, let's look at another aspect of this: how many people would you need to involve in this plot? and how can it be kept secret?
Lleanlleawrg 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg
Sorry, but i'm terminating this discussion now. Just as i thought, you are baiting for the purpose of asking the usual dumb questions. Good luck with it.
SaneBoomer 8 months ago
@SaneBoomer Oh, okay. So asking how it might be doable instead of "IT JUST HAPPENED, LOL!" is dumb. I'm not baiting, you prick.
Lleanlleawrg 8 months ago
@SaneBoomer And they found Atta,s passport in amongst the rubble...W.T.F
sensiblepete 8 months ago
@SaneBoomer Yeah that Lleanlleawrg is saying that the government's version is more credible than the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth it makes me laugh. I wish people would do their own research rather than beleive EVERYTHING the government tells them. That's the problem with people. They ACCEPT everything the government tells them. I don't think people like Lleanlleawrg are ever going to wake up because they're in deep slumber in la-la land believing their government would protect them.
solarDeviant 8 months ago
@solarDeviant Let me take a stab at explaining their problem, see if you agree. There is a paper on one of the 9/11 sites which i am too lazy to find, but it explains 'negative hypnosis'. The mind, due to a number of psychological influences maintains a kind of pseudo reality, keeps reality buffered, filtered, such that it excludes, by dimming, blocking out many facts and aspects of reality. That special reality is reenforced by media, so it becomes like a mass spell. Some of us awaken.
SaneBoomer 8 months ago
@solarDeviant (con't)
Analyzing my own moment of awaking, it came by accident. I saw a WTC video on youtube menu, and clicked on it. I watched #2 come down. Then watched it again. By the 3rd time, i realized something wasn't right. Then i watched #1 come down. Instantly i realized the big flaw in the illusion. Two buildings, and they both came down the exact same way from airplanes!! IMPOSSIBLE!!
Instantly awake. That was all it took. It's obviously a moment in time, a dawning, a gestalt.
SaneBoomer 8 months ago
@solarDeviant (cont' #3)
Sorry its a bit long, but just wanted to conclude by saying what happens after you awaken. (this part is for dickhead there) After you snap out of the negative hallucination, its mixed emotions. Suddenly its as if being in a room where invisible furniture, there all the time, begins to materialize into view. One by one element, you now see reality for what it is, sans the negative black out. It can be shocking, gut wrenching, deadly, but there's no going back to sleep
SaneBoomer 8 months ago
@SaneBoomer EXACTLY. People like that sheeple are too afraid to question their government in fear of being called un-patriotic. I bet if the president told the public right now that 9/11 was an inside job they still wouldn't believe it LOLFor them it is incomprehensible because they believe that the government are protecting them, yet they have NO clue that they are the same people trying to kill them. But they have been hypnotized for so long, they keep all their eggs in one basket. Sad,really.
solarDeviant 8 months ago
@solarDeviant Their government, is not their government. If that makes any sense.
Also, this dickhead, and that's what he is, i've met 100's, is not genuine. That's what makes him, a dickhead.
He is either (a) awake already, and therefore a malicious dickhead, or (b) not awake, and seeking to reinforce his inner fear, that the system has not failed him, in other words, a fully unconscious dickhead. In this case, he must snap out of it alone, in his own time. In his own moment.
SaneBoomer 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg For starters, watch in youtube from the show Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura about 9/11.
solarDeviant 8 months ago
@solarDeviant Seen it, and I find Jesse's standards for what constitutes evidence far too lax. All his episodes go like this: "I met this source (random guy) out in a random location, and he told me something without backing it up with evidence of any kind. Now we're dealing with a conspiracy. Let's investigate. Hm, people aren't forthcoming about this. Clearly a sign it's a conspiracy!" it's comical. I do love the guy, I really enjoy the show, but it wouldn't hold up in a lab, nor court.
Lleanlleawrg 8 months ago
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solarDeviant 8 months ago
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solarDeviant 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg Where is the plane that crashed into the Pentagon? Where are the wings, the tail, the two 9-foot Rolls Royce steel engines, the fuselage, etc? How does a 757 with a wingspan of 125 feet fit into a 16 by 20 foot initial impact hole? Why the apparent "STAND DOWN" by the FAA, NORAD, and NMCC on 9/11? NORAD had routinely intercepted planes 67 times earlier that year within 20 minutes each time and NEVER had a failure like they did on 9/11, nor after 9/11.
solarDeviant 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg Heat from burning jet fuel was reportedly the sole cause of the WTC collapse? What a ludicrous theory! Steel melts at 2750°F. The steel in the Towers was certified by Underwriters Lab Inc. to withstand 2000°F for 6 hours! Jet fuel produces a max temp of 1800°F in a special combustion chamber. Theories that claim the steel melted from the jet fuel fire violate the laws of physics!
solarDeviant 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg Also, steel frame buildings have NEVER collapsed due to fires! Steel frame buildings cannot collapse at free-fall speed, symmetrically, straight down into a relatively small pile of rubble due to fire. That’s a fact.
solarDeviant 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg WTC maintenance workers confirm massive explosions in the sub-basement area that closely coincided with the aircraft impacts on the upper floors. FDNY rescuers also confirm coordinated explosions "like demolition charges" in the North Tower, as they escaped. The media conveniently failed to show these witnesses.
solarDeviant 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg Civil engineering professor Hyman Brown, the WTC’s construction manager, WTC 1 and 2 were designed to survive an impact and resulting fires from a collision by the largest commercial aircraft at the time, a Boeing 707, carrying 23,000 gallons of fuel. He also stated the towers "could have easily withstood multiple airplane crashes".
solarDeviant 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg Another feature that would be expected only if explosives were used to slice the steel columns would be molten steel, and its existence at the WTC site was indeed reported by several witnesses, including the two main figures involved in the clean up, Peter Tully, president of Tully Construction, and Mark Loizeaux, president of Controlled Demolition, Inc. Tully said that he saw pools of "literally molten steel" at the site.
solarDeviant 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg Loizeaux said that several weeks after 9/11, when the rubble was being removed, "hot spots of molten steel" were found "at the bottoms of the elevator shafts of the main towers, down seven basement levels". Hot spots were recorded up to 1377°F 5 DAYS AFTER 9/11!
solarDeviant 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg To top off this peculiar event, the steel structures and columns were quickly removed from the site (before any examination and to the objection of fire safety officials, firefighters, and victims’ families) and shipped to China and India to be recycled! (The real cause of the collapses was a highly sophisticated controlled demolition!)
solarDeviant 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg How did WTC 7 collapse when no plane hit it? The collapse of Building 7 was later admitted to be a demolition by owner Larry Silverstein on a PBS interview in Sept. 2002. In a phone call with the FDNY chief regarding building 7, he said "We've had such terrible loss of life; maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse" referring to the demolition of building 7.
solarDeviant 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg Larry later explains that "pull it" meant to evacuate firefighters, but there were no firefighters in the building at that time! Also, the FDNY is not equipped or trained to "pull" Building 7 in a controlled demolition as Larry stated. Nor can any building be prepared for such a well-designed demolition in the few minutes after Larry asked to "pull it". Coincidentally, Silverstein assumed a 99-year lease on the WTC Towers on July 24, just six weeks before Sept. 11.
solarDeviant 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg After the attacks, Larry boldly asserted he was entitled to twice the insurance policy value because "The two hijacked airliners that struck the 110-story twin towers Sept. 11 were separate ‘occurrences’ for insurance purposes, entitling him to collect twice on $3.6 billion collective worth of the policies, or $7.2 billion."
solarDeviant 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg (Do you think he wanted building 7 to collapse? The official FEMA report on WTC 7 concludes "The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time." Nice investigation there!)
solarDeviant 8 months ago
@Lleanlleawrg Don’t believe that the government is capable or that ruthless to murder Americans to justify a war in Iraq? Read about "Operation Northwoods", which shows plans that Lyman Lemnitzer and the Joint Chiefs of Staff drew up in 1962 and approved for what may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government.
solarDeviant 8 months ago
@solarDeviant
Regarding "Operation Northwoods", This is a largely over-looked part of the negative hallucination. I knew one of the Cuban pilots trained in Fla. They had a few squads of nationals ready and equipped to attack Cuba, cia funded, controlled. Then one