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  • If every american carried a gun at all times the crime rate would drop to almost nothing...

  • If she had Krav Maga training this would not happen. I like the system & thanks for the post.

  • can the receiver work with any other reflectors, lets just say some carjackers since new anti theft device and came prepared with a reflector. Just wondering u kno.

  • @Trukillaog

    No, each reflector is programmed to work with the specific system installed in the vehicle, or as a package when purchasing the initial unit.

  • lol! that anti-theft system is such a piece of cake! if the thief runs 1/4 mile away from you and the vehicle stops i think he will know what to do.. just rip off the receiver of the car! so if a thief wants to steal your car he will do it!

  • @insanity1987

    Thanks for the comment-Unfortunately for the thief, if he rips off the receiver, it still won't start! We thought of that also.

  • Fantastic I only wish I'd thought of it, well done guy's.

  • here is a catch 22, if i go looking for my vehicle and bring the reflector, the criminal can drive away from me again... if i don't bring the reflector i can't start my car...

  • Thanks for the comment-while you do make a good point, the general thought is that the bad guy will not stay inside of a stolen vehicle that won't start until the owner shows up so they can drive away again.

  • At 0:43 the woman says "far enough away that the carjacker won't come back to hurt you, close enough that your car, your children, your possessions can be found safe."

    The children have been kidnapped...I doubt the jacker would leave without taking something or them.

    At 3:30 the guy says "She calls me and says I'm at such and such a gas station, somebody just stole the car...I know that's fine baby, I'll come and get you and the kids.

    The kids are still in the stolen car, so that wouldn't work.

  • Thanks for your comment.

    Reference your first point; I know of no carjack scenario where the carjacker took a child from the vehicle and fled with them. Think of how distressing it would be to see children in the backseat in the first place, then all of a sudden the car stalls. They're going to make a getaway and restrain a child or children all the while? I don't believe that is a plausible scenario.

    Reference the 2nd, he can search the area, find the vehicle and kids, then go get her.

  • Will this work on old cars like a 1991 eagle talon? (same car as a mitsubishi eclipse)

  • Yes, the Forced Ignition system will work on your 1991 Eagle Talon.  Our username is also the website where it can be purchased.

  • First of all, thank you for commenting on our system. To answer your questions:

    The reflector is carried in your pocket, independant of your keys, or anything else on your person. It can even be carried around your neck on a lanyard!

    The reflector case is watertight, with a rubber seal, so it is virtually impossible to get it wet.

    You can purchase the system with one or two reflectors. If you lose the only or last reflector you have, simply contact us for another!

  • Thank you for your comment.  When the Forced Ignition unit is activated, the effect is as if the vehicle has run out of fuel. You still have brakes, steering, etc., so you can bring the vehicle to a safe, controlled stop.

    While I appreciate your opinion, I do not agree; this is a Great system and works better than anything else on the market now.

  • I did not see the question so I will ask. How big is the reflector.?

  • Excellent question; the reflector is approximately 1 3/4" wide, 2 1/2" long, and 1/2" thick. Small enough to keep in your pants pocket, but also has a small reinforced loop on top for a chain or lanyard to wear around your neck.

  • Is my car disabled when parked? My car was stolen last week and I was right upstairs watching TV.

  • Yes, this device acts almost like a "geo-fence" that automatically engages when you walk outside of the factory set perimeter of your vehicle (typically 20 yards). If the vehicle is running, it will stay running but stall if somebody other than the authorized user takes it out of park. If not running, it will engage and not allow the vehicle to be started by anybody but the authorized user.

  • Just hope it doesn't stall in the middle of oncoming traffic or a railroad crossing. Yikes!

  • Great idea, great product! I had been contemplating making my own remote control starter/fuel pump kill switch, but this is a lot better. Only some questions:

    Q 1: What is the battery life of the reflector?

    Q 2: What kind of battery is it (size)?

    Q 3: If the battery on the reflector dies, then your car just stalls, say if you're on the freeway, right?

    Q 4: Does the receiver have a "low battery" indicator that lets you know it's time to change the battery? I hope so!

  • It is an incredible product that has already made an impact. Reference your questions:

    #1: The battery life is about the same as in your standard remote for your car door locks, but we recommend changing the battery each time you change the oil in your vehicle just to avoid any unexpected stalls.

    #2: It is the standard coin battery size.

    #3: Yes, the car stalls, but the great thing is that you still have brakes, steering, etc. so you can safely steer to the service lane.

    #4: Yes it does!

  • Wow, excellent product, excellent idea. I had been contemplating making my own starter/fuel pump remote control kill switch... but this is much better.

    Question 1: What is the battery life on the "reflector"?

    Question 2: What happens when the reflector battery dies -- your car stalls on the freeway for example?

    Question 3: Is there a "low battery" indicator on the reflector that will remind you to replace it? I hope so!

  • Great question!

    That is what is so great about Forced Ignition. When the system is activated, the engine stalls out but leaves the steering and brakes intact, so whomever is driving is able to safely pull the vehicle off to the side of the road so they can exit the vehicle without risking injury.

  • I'll keep it in my wallet. Your whole reason for leaving your car on is because you either buying sumthin real quick. Well u need your wallet if you buying something. I'll keep it in my wallet

  • Rubberducky1324:lol y would someone or how would someone get car jacked on a freeway.thats dummy smacks bro.

  • When the Forced Ignition System activates, the effect is as if the car has run out of gas. That is exactly what it feels like when you are behind the wheel and it happens-you still have brakes and steering so you can safely get to the shoulder.

  • Cool device! Epic lulz with the child acting!

  • what about cars with manual trannies?

  • The device will work the same, no matter if it's placed on a vehicle with automatic or manual transmission.

  • If kidnapped, the victim can toss the reflector aside or out of the vehicle, and the Forced Ignition System will take care of the rest!

  • easy enough to kidnap the person with reflector aswell.

  • cool but trackers are better

  • Hmm, how big is the reflector? Might be a good idea to keep it under your shirt like a necklace. Many restaurant managers wear a pendant under their shirt that, when pressed, activates the store's silent alarm... so wearing the reflector under your shirt, you'll have it at all times, and they won't know you have it

  • i might get this, so if i pump gas and a dude walks up with a gun asking for the car. I will give it to them and then call the cops. then chase the car on foot take the gun, beat the shit out of the guy.lol What about Valet parking ?

  • If the area for valet parking is within the designated area of the Forced Ignition System, then you can keep the reflector with you. If it is not, you might want to put it under the seat or in the locked glovebox until you retrieve your vehicle. Fortunately, the valet areas normally have the best location, security, etc. and they are insured against vehicle thefts.

  • good systems I will like to know if this systems has fcc approval, I asked this because I will like to sell it in Dominican Republic.and this is very important, thank you very much

  • Simple: the carjackers will become more violent, and at gunpoint force you to give them the "reflector".

    Or, they will become more organized and have garages waiting to park the car safely (within said 1/4 mile) for several days, and then remove the device and sell the parts (or the whole car).

    Or, they will begin forcing everybody to stay in the car!!!

    There are so many ways to get around this, it's not funny.

  • Unbelievable. First, they would have to know you have the reflector in order to force you it to them. Carjacking is a spur of the moment crime, they don't interview you first to see if you have any anti-carjacking devices hooked up. They jerk you out of the car and take it. The cops would love it if they had a 1/4 mile radius; much easier to bust. Forcing everybody to stay in the car, for what? So they can get to the shop? a smart "victim" will throw the reflector out the window.

  • Unfortunately carjacking is a result of good car alarms and anti-theft devices. Since it is too much of a hassle to steal a parked car, thieves didn't take too long to realize that with extra violence, things are easier.

    I know it sucks, but if this "reflector" technology becomes abundant, thieves will "automatically" force ocupants to stay in the vehicle just in case, and Hostage situations may result.

    No car is worth your life.

  • Hopefully, thieves will begin to understand that cars are too much of a hassle to steal. Hopefully...

  • Jarod, I'm with you hoping that it will become too much of a hassle. I guess anything is possible, but in my opinion, there are too many varieties of criminals out there and fortunately, many are not willing to take hostages with them when they steal a car. They want it to be quick, painless, and without any extra liability. You're right, no car is worth your life. Hopefully people will just throw the reflector or crush it if they are being carjacked.

  • LMFAO the staged car jacking was hilarious!

  • if its so easy to install the car jacker could drive a 1/4 mile away and then just unplug the damn thing then drive off again. I dont think this would work. the problem is its too easy to get around.

  • The unit is hidden inside of the vehicle and takes some time to find and/or get to. I don't know of any carjacker who would stay with a stolen vehicle long enough to find this thing. Besides, just unplugging it doesn't make the car work either. If it is unplugged, it only renders the car more useless.

  • I'm from Austria, Here you can leave your car with windows open in the middle of the city for one month and there's not happening anything. Why in US there's so much carjacking? Beside you have more weapons than our country.

  • the US is huge, theres some places more dangerous than others. and here if someone jacks your car, if they dont sell it in the next month, theres about a 95% chance you WILL get caught.

  • good idea, but what if the transmitter runs out of battery? yo might have a long walk to a gas station to go get a battery im sure it doesn't run out fast. but im sure it would happen.

  • Actually, they thought of that too. The reflector has a visual indicator (red light) that comes on when the battery is running low. When the light comes on, you have anywhere from 2-3 days to replace the battery.

  • it would have been a cool idea if they also made a remote gps that attaches to you car and you can see where you car is on your phone or palm pilot

  • Great idea!! I'll report this to them and see if it's possible. There is a tracking system (sold seperately) and I'll see if it can be somehow incorporated into the Forced Ignition System. Thank you for the suggestion.

  • When I told them it would take an average person with minimal mechanical experience 15 min. or less to install, they had a hard time believing it. I honestly think they tried to prove us wrong initially. He was installing it in a local garage and they didn't tell him to bring any tools for install. The only thing that wasn't with the kit was a test light and a wrench for the screw. I wasn't allowed to help him at all, and what you saw was him looking through my tools to find the right one.

  • well if everyone had one these, wouldn't the thieves try and get it from you (like how they get the keys). It could lead to more bodily harm to the victim. This was the case with the Mercedes-S class car which had fingerprint recognition to start the car, the thieves cutoff the owner's fingers to steal the car (search the theregister[dot]co[dot]uk for the news article).

  • Thanks for the comment. I understand what you're saying about the thieves trying to take it from the owner. The unique thing about this device is that nobody knows you have it! The thieves know if you have an S-class, that they have to have fingerprint recognition to start it. This could be on any make/model car. There is no way for them to know you have it.

  • great sound effects for the reflector and receiver

  • Yeah, I wonder if it makes that noise constantly - it'd be as annoying as hell!!! :o)

  • I understand what you're saying. It doesn't make any noise at all. Completely Silent.

  • The woman in the video cares about her kids, but where are the car seats for them?

  • this is useless in a way, lets say you own an Acura Integra(most stolen car) thieves are not stupid(some of them are) but if the car stalls, the guy just calls one of his friends for a push with another car and takes the vehicle where he wants, then disasembles the car and dumps the car in an alley. and there goes your money, but hey if you own a piece of shitty car or something that thieves/car jackers are not looking for I think this device it's great(

  • Um ok....so you're telling me that when the theif drives away and only gets 1/4 MILES away from you before the car stalls, he'll have time to call his buddies, wait for them to show up, and PUSH the car to wherever he wants before you call the cops? LOL. Man, don't ever try to steal a car, you'll get put away on the first try.

  • numb nuts- why would a car acker steal your car in an area where its too busy for him to get away?? if he is stuck in traffic the cops will be all around him. duh.

  • yes, the video definately says the reflector COULD be left at home and car started, but the video also says that after the user has done that once, next time they WILL remember not to leave reflector at home!!

  • cute how the kids are screaming and laughing.  please leave the installation to a professional. also on the infiniti m35/45 and 07 G35 and other upcoming nissans they have a "ikey" you cant start the car if the key is more than a few feet away from the car

  • They did similar things in South Africa, it just encouraged car jackers to take hostages and they're saying this will protect the child?

  • check out the details/narrative to the video and it will tell you where to get it.

  • I saw that...so how much and where can I get this joint? I wonder if I get LoJack and this, would I posibbly be able to get 90% off my insurance!

  • this is the same thing as LoJack! But LoJack just tells the cops where the car is, depending on the cops, it may take hours before the car is located. I like this product! Where can I get it? And How much???

  • Keep in mind, that this product works independantly. You don't even have to know your car has been stolen because it works by itself. You don't have to enter any codes, make any calls, just check within a 1 mile radius of you and you'll find your car!

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