WOODY HERMAN & Stan Getz-Shorty Rodgers

[theoldbopper]

Saw Herman in August 1947-the ORIGINAL four brothers.The saxes were Getz,Sims,Challof,Sam Marowitz(lead alto)and Herbie Steward on tenor who was replaced by Al Cohn four months later.Shorty Rogers and Ernie Royal were the trumpet soloists-Earl Swope on trombone-Don Lamond on drums.A great group but Getz,Sims,Rogers,and Steward looked like they just got of high school!!!

[blackandtanful]

ﾊｰﾏﾝ楽団時代のゲッツ～～～震える!～～ﾌｧｰｽﾄﾃﾅｰだ­! #jazzm

[kenbourt]

do you have woody herman mardi gras?

[1979saxman]

You can tell the four brother sax section all had their major sound influence from Lester Young. 

[SpartacusBC]

@1979saxman Didn't everyone? Or Bird, or later Coltrane...

[1979saxman]

Most people say that the second herd was the best post-swing big band.

[RootsinBrooklyn]

Can't tell just by listening, but it looks like a young Jimmy Raney on guitar (?)

[1979saxman]

@RootsinBrooklyn probably . Jimmy Raney and Stan Getz both had origins in Herman's herd. Getz had the utmost praise for Raney too!

[RootsinBrooklyn]

@1979saxman

I knew JR played in Getz' group in early 50s. Hadn't known till this clip that Raney had played with Woody. Makes sense. That is one fabulous band. Trumpet section is awesome. Woody's vocal is weak though. (Compare to great clip of Louis Jordan doing Caledonia.)

Raney's role (if, indeed that is Jim we're seeing) here is to play ala Freddie Greene. I don't think he's even plugged in.

[gcrav]

@RootsinBrooklyn

Yeah, I had to grit my teeth during Herman's vocal. It reminded me of a blackface minstrel show.

[FireBuff51]

Back when I used to play, I always sort of did it subconsciously. No reason. LOL

[jazzuffe]

Everybody is there, Zoot, Stan, Serge and Al Cohn. The best.. white.. sax section ever and one of five.. Ellington, Clarke/Boland-70, Thad Jones Levis 1969 and Basie 61 with Foster.

[DoctorPatient]

yeah!

swingin' like crazy -- gret stuff

Attn: horn players

any insight you can lend as to why some players prefer to bend their necks to the right, as a few here do? breath control or something like that?

thanks

[jor99912]

I use to see Stan Getz's Cadillac parked around the corner from my Hotel in Detroit! In 1968 Had the initials S G on it.

Everybody knew who it belonged to. But I never saw Him in person!

[divvy1400yam600]

@jor99912 You didnt miss much as I understand it.

A bit of a barsteward he was On stage anyway.

Superb musician tho.

[smithw5]

I know these motherfuckers! thats Stan, but it's also Zoot Sims and Serge Chaloff on Bari. what a band....

[AudiophileTubes]

AMAZING music, and AMAZING video clip!!! Thanks for posting / sharing.

[kaunasprince]

Stan the man...nobody I liked better..

[catman2you]

Growing up in the 50s my father to play Caledonia and Northest passage (as well as Joe Turners How Long Blues) all day long. It was his rock n roll.

[rmayer821]

I know all these guys in this particular band save for the 2nd trumpet from the right end. Could it be a sub for Ernie Royal for the film???

[tenorbanjo4]

Four brothers! :O)))

[eet73]

What a killer band! Great to see a video of baby Stan.

[shmelty2009]

my dad ,Marky Markowitz is the first trumpet player on the right.he was about 25 years old at the time.this film is about 1947

[hookalakah]

Stan Levey said that when he subbed for Dave Tough on Woody's band, it was a breeze to play. I think he meant that what Dave and Don Lamond had already played built up such a percussive bank account that the band could swing without a drummer. Neal Hefti's writing probably had something to do with it too. Now, the Kenton band was an entirely different story...

[strangeromance1]

He was a king!

[mlamond53]

Thank God for YouTube! Don Lamond was my dad and I never get tired of watching him--truly one of the greats!

[ShawnSWATJazz]

Woody Herman is just fantanstic! I wish great jazz musicians were still around.

[petebax1]

Just found a new Stan Getz at Audiosparx and it is free just type Stan getz into audiosparx search

I think Advacados is just as good as this.

[MARKMANIATT]

Fantastic band.Superb Don Lamond on drums.When is someone going to post the film of the First Herd with Davey Tough on drums and Margie Hyams on Vibes?A chance to see Dave Tough in action.A rare treat indeed!

[dotdadee]

ALSO Serge Chaloff (pre-wheelchair) on bari sax, Zoot Sims and John LaPorta saxs,

[upphetsade]

The saxes are Stan Getz, Al Cohn, Zoot Sims (tenor), Serge Chaloff (baritone) and Sam Marowitz (alto). John La Porta played second alto in the Second Herd. This is the Four Brothers band. Sam Marowitz's brother returned from Europe at the end of WW II with a top hat that belonged to Adolf Hitler.

[dotdadee]

You are RIGHT and I stand corrected. I see that Sam Marowitz played in both bands (Lamond too) as they are are in the Mosaic set of The complete Columbia recordings of Woody from 1945-1947. Laporta is in that set. It's the 1st Herd on discs 1-5. Woodchopper on disc 6 and the Second Herd on disc 5. Stravinsky with Herman is at the end of disc 5. I am REALLY wishing a video will surface with the 1st Herd with Dave Tough on drums.

[upphetsade]

The 1st Herd appeared in the movie "New Orleans", which also featured Louis Armstrong and Billie Holiday. It was released in 1947 but filmed before the Four Brothers Band came into existence. Clips are liable to turn up on You Tube at some point.

[dotdadee]

Thanks!

[WerdSivad]

What a classic clip!! I've always loved Woody's bands. This clip is especially hot!

[tarple]

well, this looks like it his second herd, so Candoli probably was not there (cause a lot of great guys left with the ending of the first herd) i like the 1945 recording of northwest passage better, but still, what a priceless clip

[kywildmatt22]

Did Herman have Pete candolli on trumpet at this time or no?

[rsalvucc]

I was trying to eyeball the trumpets . Pete played lead and that doesn't look like him in the lead chair. It might be Stan Fishelson, maybe Bernie Glow to his right

[shmelty2009]

and my dad marky markowitz all the way to the right and they all about 25 years old

[sands3333]

what years did your dad play for Woody, my dad played trombone for Woody, I think 1954-56 time frame

[a31modela]

My uncle played tenor sax with Woody from like 49 to mid 50s. Buddy Savitt was his name

[sands3333]

a31modela-I am sure they know each other What did your uncle do after the big bands died down? Dad went to Vegas and played on the strip as many did. One of Dads best friends, Bill Trujillo who also played sax for Woody I saw him at Dads funeral a few years ago, I had a Woody CD playing in the back ground, Bill came up to me and said hey thats me playing the sax solo on that song. Bill got up and told a few road stories, man what a time they must have had.

Regards

[garyeddie99]

@sands3333 Just a note. Bob Swift from Flint Michigan on trombone solo did you Dad know him?

[klactv]

What a jittery music! Good, though, to hear Getz, Sims and Chaloff.

[BeverlyGetz1]

SOOOOOOOOOO SWEEEEEEET!!! (-;

Thank you for posting!

Bev Getz

[jdstit01]

Great. Only clip I've found with him on you tube.

[jdstit01]

Anybody know if thats Jimmy Raney on guitar?

[JosephNScott]

Should be, yeah. 1948.

[pallareso]

Drummer is Don Lamond, wow!!

[SwingMan1937]

Awesome clips.

That said, these cuts just aren't the same without Dave Tough and Chubby Jackson - especially on Northwest Passage.

Ralph Burns at the piano in these clips?

[hamfat54]

It looks like Tony Aless. The other tenors are Al Cohn and Zoot Sims, Serge Chaloff on Baritone.

[SwingMan1937]

Thanks, hamfat.

Figured with Getz, Rogers, Chaloff and Don Lamond that Ralph Burns would be in. I have a few Dial 78's with Herman's Woodchoppers that have the above players with Burns, so I figured Burns was in the big band as well.

[hamfat54]

Ralph left the piano chair so he would have more time to arrange. He still played on some record dates with the guys.

[JosephNScott]

Yeah, Lamond didn't sound a bit like Tough. And Getz didn't sound like Flip, for that matter!

[kpjjazz]

We are so lucky to have these clips so why quibble???

[rsalvucc]

Remarkable clip--Getz, Chaloff, Al Cohn, Zoot--all together