@edb1980 In the 90's, the American federal government dropped the national speed limit, citing it as a dismal failure. So, each state now has the authority to set their speed limits. Most states set the limits the same for all types of traffic; as studies have shown split limits reduce the efficiency of the roadways to handle traffic, and cause more crashes. This is how trucks can have a 55 mph speed limit in California, and an 80 mph limit 300 miles away in Utah on I-15.
@tz138 Listen buddy, what Im saying is ... is that that 55mph or 80mph isnt fast. Go take a look at some BMW M5 videos .....those niggers are driving at 170mph + illegally.
@edb1980 Those "niggers" you speak of are operating a compact automobile illegally at those speeds. I am operating a semi truck (articulated lorry) LEGALLY at 80 mph. There are trucks over here that will approach those speeds loaded! The owners are not dumb enough to post it on this site. This could attract unwanted attention. There are a number of vehicles over here that can sustain those speeds, and likely safer than your example. All it takes is a "Bully Dog" plugged into the ECM.
Yes, but both states are under tremendous pressure to chang it. The fed seems to want trucks to go at least 65. This pressure caused Ohio, Illinios, Michigan, and Indiana to change their truck limits. Split speed limits reduce highway capacity, and causes crashes.
There is not very many miles of roadway this nice on the east coast, I've been there. The concrete contractors in the north east can not seem to place good mud!
These triples do not have "a" dollies; they are "b" trains. Half as many pivots, joint lengths are about the same! "A" dollies are about 8 feet long making for a much more complicated puzzle.
But still possible. Go find yourself an old CF hostler and I'm sure he'd stand a good chance to have what it takes to back up dollied triples. I was just pointing out an example of triples that we're being backed up.
Point taken on the example. It is very unlikely that a set of "A" dollied triples could have been handled like the "B" train in your example. I have pulled triples with "A" dollies for UPS under contract through my carrier; (christmas rush) it takes a lot of luck to back them 30 feet in a straight line, without jacknifing the dollies. I have backed doubles with a "C" dolly into a loading bay without any troble at all! "A" dollies just will not cooperate.
T800 (recovery truck) standing by MB Actros Megaspace (and Megaspace is cabin with straight floor,no engine tunnel, so height from ground to floor is over 5ft 3') and T800 was higher! And I think that Kenny was having 22.5 tires (probably 385/65/22.5-thata around 3ft 7' in diameter-1.08m)
My sister just measured their T800, and found the floor to be about 4ft. 4in. high. Their T800 is a 1999 model with a big Cummins, a 13 speed tranny, and has tall rubber. (11r 24.5)
Trucks are manufactured for companies that operate in primitive areas, such as oilfield drillers. These trucks are all wheel drive, and have more ground clearance. A tow truck may be configured like this.
For the most part, this is an illusion. While the hight will vary an inch or two, most US conventionals are about the same hight if they have the same size tires. The 600 through 900 series KW's have the same cab and sleeper assemblies (structurally) with minor differences in appearance, and equipment placement. There ia about 6 to 8 inches between the top of the frame, and the bottom of the floor to allow for components to pass without chaffing. (hoses, wiring, and sometimes exhaust)
What'as the entering height in US conventional trucks? The Height in front of seat in most EU COE's (but also in some conventionals like Volvo NH and Scania T) is beetwen 140-150cm. So, I figured that it is lower in US conventionals (according to pictures)....
I pulled three types. The type with the turntable assembly, and drawbar could be a handfull (not really a B-train). The type with the super C dolly handled good. The proper super-B handles good, with only two pivot points in the combination. A set of triples, is a handfull on slick roads, due to the five pivot points! The US limits tandems to 34,000#, wheeras the Canadians allow about 37,000# on their short spread. Us allows 20,000# each if axles exceed a 10' spread! Western Canada hates these.
No turnpike doubles, but I have pulled the Canadian Super "B" train flat, at 140,000 pounds; lumber out of the Canadian Rockies. I have pulled triples vans on congear during the Christmas shopping season, but UPS does not run heavy, packages are like hauling potato chips, etc... they just need the cubic capacity. Sometimes we have idiots running at a high rate of fuel consumption, we get to watch crews clean up the mess while we wait for the road to open...
Did you pull B-train in winter? How do they drive on snowy roads? I knom that most of US and CAN trucks are 6x4, but still max load on truck is 22-23t(36 000lbs on tandem's, right?), and they pull almoast 50t behind on nondriven axles...
The maximum allowed gross weight in the USA is 80,000 pounds. The states are allowed to make their own rules to allow more weight, but have to allow the federal weights and sizes as a minimum on the "federal system" Canada allows more weight. I pull a 48 ft step, but will be ordering a 53 footer in the near future. If you watch "Ice Road Truckers" on the tube; this year, they are in Alaska. You will be able to see spread axle flatbeds being pulled. Nothing pulls better, and is more stable!!
This speed is possable with the V-12 Detroit 2 cycle! The 2 cycle Detriots were eliminated in road vehicles in the late 80's. I know of a conventional Pete that had a modified 3408 V-8 Cat that was cought at 136 mph pulling a loaded trailer in California! The truck (and trailer) left the state on a rail car while the driver cooled off in the hoosegow! The 3408 has about 20 cubic liters. He was pushing 2000 hp, with a "B" model marine arrangement number for parts, pump, turbos, and injectors.
So you think it's possible that COE in early 80's could go that fast? I mean, ok, I know that you can manage that much speed with long legs and strong engine, but problem is Aerodinamics of olc COE and also tires....I don't think that tires could take that big speed almoast 30 years ago...
Who said that the individual that got caught doing this had any sense!! Most tires will take this kind of abuse for a short distance, and we do not know how far he traveled at this speed. One only needs to be doing it where Smokey can see! Perhaps he had a tailwind. If there is enough power, the aerodynamics can be overcome. I am glad that I was not riding with him when he did this! Cabover aerodynamics are not that bad, but the instability factor, buffeting, and what about the blowout threat!
Did you try it's top speed? There was one story on one of US trucking forums, that some guy in early 80's in his Freightliner COE with V12 DD got fined in Texas for driving 130 mph. He spent 4 days in jail for that....and he showed the ticket to that guy (who wrote that story on forum). But I still doubt that COE could go that much 30 years ago...but that new conventionals...maybe :)
The truck is capable of 110 to 118 mph loaded or empty on a flat surface with no wind; depending on atmospherics. This would likely get me into trouble, if I post something like that, law enforcement would likely take interest! The speedo only goes up to 85 mph anyway. You can see this in another video, that I did on a runway. I ran out of runway, no wings, so that is where it ended. I am set up to run best between 60 and 80 mph. We have higher speed limits, hence longer legged trucks!
nice video driver are u a O/O or company driver?
Webber362 1 year ago
@Webber362 I own it.
tz138 11 months ago
@tz138 awesome
Webber362 11 months ago
How is 55mph fasr?
edb1980 1 year ago
@edb1980 55 is not faster... but 80 is in Utah.
tz138 1 year ago
@edb1980 In the 90's, the American federal government dropped the national speed limit, citing it as a dismal failure. So, each state now has the authority to set their speed limits. Most states set the limits the same for all types of traffic; as studies have shown split limits reduce the efficiency of the roadways to handle traffic, and cause more crashes. This is how trucks can have a 55 mph speed limit in California, and an 80 mph limit 300 miles away in Utah on I-15.
tz138 1 year ago
@tz138 Listen buddy, what Im saying is ... is that that 55mph or 80mph isnt fast. Go take a look at some BMW M5 videos .....those niggers are driving at 170mph + illegally.
edb1980 1 year ago
@edb1980 Those "niggers" you speak of are operating a compact automobile illegally at those speeds. I am operating a semi truck (articulated lorry) LEGALLY at 80 mph. There are trucks over here that will approach those speeds loaded! The owners are not dumb enough to post it on this site. This could attract unwanted attention. There are a number of vehicles over here that can sustain those speeds, and likely safer than your example. All it takes is a "Bully Dog" plugged into the ECM.
tz138 1 year ago 3
@edb1980 beacuase their niggers they break the law.
mxislikesex308 1 month ago
in California it's 55 mph for 18 wheelers same with Oregon.
lestersimmons82 1 year ago
Yes, but both states are under tremendous pressure to chang it. The fed seems to want trucks to go at least 65. This pressure caused Ohio, Illinios, Michigan, and Indiana to change their truck limits. Split speed limits reduce highway capacity, and causes crashes.
tz138 1 year ago
You get a road EXACTLY like this in the east, and its guaranteed 55.
sociopathicregret 1 year ago
There is not very many miles of roadway this nice on the east coast, I've been there. The concrete contractors in the north east can not seem to place good mud!
tz138 1 year ago
@tz138 Probably, but the roads themselves tend to actually be bigger and wider.
sociopathicregret 1 year ago
I can run 80 mph in Utah on I-15... Yes, that is the posted speed limit in places. Yes, it applies to all vehicles, even oversize.
tz138 1 year ago
The speed limit in Portland, OR is 55. LUCKY you get to run so fast! Wish we could!! lol
ZoeToots 1 year ago
Yap. BTW Is it possible to back up triple?
scope225 2 years ago
While anything is possable, backing triples with "a" dollies is highly unlikely more than 20 or 30 feet.
tz138 2 years ago
Check out the video titled "Truck Driver Looking For New Job" at about 2:10 in
sikofu2 2 years ago
These triples do not have "a" dollies; they are "b" trains. Half as many pivots, joint lengths are about the same! "A" dollies are about 8 feet long making for a much more complicated puzzle.
tz138 2 years ago
But still possible. Go find yourself an old CF hostler and I'm sure he'd stand a good chance to have what it takes to back up dollied triples. I was just pointing out an example of triples that we're being backed up.
sikofu2 2 years ago
Point taken on the example. It is very unlikely that a set of "A" dollied triples could have been handled like the "B" train in your example. I have pulled triples with "A" dollies for UPS under contract through my carrier; (christmas rush) it takes a lot of luck to back them 30 feet in a straight line, without jacknifing the dollies. I have backed doubles with a "C" dolly into a loading bay without any troble at all! "A" dollies just will not cooperate.
tz138 2 years ago
Well, there was picture on net of Kenworth
T800 (recovery truck) standing by MB Actros Megaspace (and Megaspace is cabin with straight floor,no engine tunnel, so height from ground to floor is over 5ft 3') and T800 was higher! And I think that Kenny was having 22.5 tires (probably 385/65/22.5-thata around 3ft 7' in diameter-1.08m)
scope225 2 years ago
My sister just measured their T800, and found the floor to be about 4ft. 4in. high. Their T800 is a 1999 model with a big Cummins, a 13 speed tranny, and has tall rubber. (11r 24.5)
tz138 2 years ago
Well...maybe this one has some rised suspension (like off road or something).
Other possability is that look can fool you (me) because of angle of picturing.
Thanks for the infos btw
scope225 2 years ago
Trucks are manufactured for companies that operate in primitive areas, such as oilfield drillers. These trucks are all wheel drive, and have more ground clearance. A tow truck may be configured like this.
tz138 2 years ago
Well I noticed that Kenworths have slightly higher floor (especialy T800....but T660 is also pretty high.
Thanks for reply.
scope225 2 years ago
For the most part, this is an illusion. While the hight will vary an inch or two, most US conventionals are about the same hight if they have the same size tires. The 600 through 900 series KW's have the same cab and sleeper assemblies (structurally) with minor differences in appearance, and equipment placement. There ia about 6 to 8 inches between the top of the frame, and the bottom of the floor to allow for components to pass without chaffing. (hoses, wiring, and sometimes exhaust)
tz138 2 years ago
What'as the entering height in US conventional trucks? The Height in front of seat in most EU COE's (but also in some conventionals like Volvo NH and Scania T) is beetwen 140-150cm. So, I figured that it is lower in US conventionals (according to pictures)....
scope225 2 years ago
I am on tall rubber, and the hight of the floor is about 4 ft, or 120cm. I would say that the range would be 105cm to 130cm.
tz138 2 years ago
I pulled three types. The type with the turntable assembly, and drawbar could be a handfull (not really a B-train). The type with the super C dolly handled good. The proper super-B handles good, with only two pivot points in the combination. A set of triples, is a handfull on slick roads, due to the five pivot points! The US limits tandems to 34,000#, wheeras the Canadians allow about 37,000# on their short spread. Us allows 20,000# each if axles exceed a 10' spread! Western Canada hates these.
tz138 2 years ago
Yeah, that speed is definitely isn't smart or safe... ;-)
BTW did you ever pull turnpike doubles? They go up to 140k lbs right?
scope225 2 years ago
No turnpike doubles, but I have pulled the Canadian Super "B" train flat, at 140,000 pounds; lumber out of the Canadian Rockies. I have pulled triples vans on congear during the Christmas shopping season, but UPS does not run heavy, packages are like hauling potato chips, etc... they just need the cubic capacity. Sometimes we have idiots running at a high rate of fuel consumption, we get to watch crews clean up the mess while we wait for the road to open...
tz138 2 years ago
Did you pull B-train in winter? How do they drive on snowy roads? I knom that most of US and CAN trucks are 6x4, but still max load on truck is 22-23t(36 000lbs on tandem's, right?), and they pull almoast 50t behind on nondriven axles...
scope225 2 years ago
The maximum allowed gross weight in the USA is 80,000 pounds. The states are allowed to make their own rules to allow more weight, but have to allow the federal weights and sizes as a minimum on the "federal system" Canada allows more weight. I pull a 48 ft step, but will be ordering a 53 footer in the near future. If you watch "Ice Road Truckers" on the tube; this year, they are in Alaska. You will be able to see spread axle flatbeds being pulled. Nothing pulls better, and is more stable!!
tz138 2 years ago
This speed is possable with the V-12 Detroit 2 cycle! The 2 cycle Detriots were eliminated in road vehicles in the late 80's. I know of a conventional Pete that had a modified 3408 V-8 Cat that was cought at 136 mph pulling a loaded trailer in California! The truck (and trailer) left the state on a rail car while the driver cooled off in the hoosegow! The 3408 has about 20 cubic liters. He was pushing 2000 hp, with a "B" model marine arrangement number for parts, pump, turbos, and injectors.
tz138 2 years ago
So you think it's possible that COE in early 80's could go that fast? I mean, ok, I know that you can manage that much speed with long legs and strong engine, but problem is Aerodinamics of olc COE and also tires....I don't think that tires could take that big speed almoast 30 years ago...
scope225 2 years ago
Who said that the individual that got caught doing this had any sense!! Most tires will take this kind of abuse for a short distance, and we do not know how far he traveled at this speed. One only needs to be doing it where Smokey can see! Perhaps he had a tailwind. If there is enough power, the aerodynamics can be overcome. I am glad that I was not riding with him when he did this! Cabover aerodynamics are not that bad, but the instability factor, buffeting, and what about the blowout threat!
tz138 2 years ago
Did you try it's top speed? There was one story on one of US trucking forums, that some guy in early 80's in his Freightliner COE with V12 DD got fined in Texas for driving 130 mph. He spent 4 days in jail for that....and he showed the ticket to that guy (who wrote that story on forum). But I still doubt that COE could go that much 30 years ago...but that new conventionals...maybe :)
scope225 2 years ago
The truck is capable of 110 to 118 mph loaded or empty on a flat surface with no wind; depending on atmospherics. This would likely get me into trouble, if I post something like that, law enforcement would likely take interest! The speedo only goes up to 85 mph anyway. You can see this in another video, that I did on a runway. I ran out of runway, no wings, so that is where it ended. I am set up to run best between 60 and 80 mph. We have higher speed limits, hence longer legged trucks!
tz138 2 years ago