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  • nice chain-mail i bet it took a long time. i can't believe he dry fired his bow (1:23). lucky it is an older bow. if you had one of the newer limb designed and you dry fired it you might as well throw it in the trash. good work on the armor

  • I would kill for a bow like that!

  • 4:19 thats what she said

  • Bodkin tipped arrows were invented to go through maile armour, Second padding was always worn under the maile. (doesn't work well without as you discovered) Lastly as mentioned the rings were riveted closed and case hardened. Cone to the uk and we'll teach you how to do it right

  • 2:01 Thats What She Said.......Sorry I Had To

  • Your links are running 90deg from most period examples I have seen. The horzontal weave is very flexable but it reduces the resistance of the armour to impact, especially the blunt trauma caused by real weaponry. Try knitting a vertical weave garment and you will see a difference in how the armour withstands damage. Also the other notes about the difference between fixed, welded, rivited links are correct.

  • Yes the Celts did have Chain... So did the Romans. The artwork with examples that have survived always seems to show some king of garment underneath. Having worn many different kinds of armour, I would tend to agree that there was some kind of padding underneath. Otherwise have fun...

  • At all... the myth that weapons used during the period of chain were for slashing and hacking is just WRONG. There ares several examples in the artwork from period of all manner of piercing and stabbing type of attacks. What do you think spears were made to do, lances, daggers, pitchforks, arrows? How about techniques like half swording? Look at the thrusting power of weapons like the Gladius. Thrusting and stabbing weapons have been part of our culture since Og learned to chip stone for weapons

  • Cool fun. Armor piercing arrows had long, very narrow, thick, usuall square-section points that get their skinny tips in there and wedge through..

  • lol chainmail is designed to be pierced by an arrow,nice chainmail t-shirt though

  • @sam9116 I assure you chainmail wasn't designed to be susceptible to arrows. If you think about it, obviously it worked well enough because it was used for so long not to mention why waste so much time and effort to have no benefit?.. hmm this is a poorly conducted test my friend. The mail is stretched over a piece of wood, there’s no give, people have give. Put the two together Walla!

  • @GetReal38 nothing is designed to have weaknesses, but nevertheless, chainmail was weak against peircing attacks. the reason for mail was to defend against slashing and bladded weapons, while pericing weapons were better deflected or blocked with a shield. and to answer, the english showed the world just how effective arrows were against mail in the hundred years war.

  • @TheRobotMarvin you're right about closed (riveted maille) being better. However this type (butted) was used, mainly in asian countries whereas the riveted was european style.

  • You didnt even factor in that you guy wearing the chainmail is running into battle or at least moving, and if you would have used the stronger bow with the carbon fiber arrows they would have done more damage. the reason your arrow didnt stick was because of how thick your arrows tip was if it was aas thick as the carbon and sharper it would have stuck in the maille.

  • @cxzhg I would have loved to use the smaller arrows in the bigger bow, but unfortunately, when that bow is at full draw, those smaller arrows are too small to reach from the string to the bow itself.

  • You should leave the holes in and when people ask you about it say, "souvenirs"

  • wohhoo yes penetration.....

  • Maybe someone else said it, but NEVER dry fire a bow.Nice looking mail though.Love to see how you make the pattern.

  • What a queer

  • Use closed rings if you want to be serious, you will be surprised by the difference... this chainmail is not one anyone did at anytime wear in battle.

  • man how long did that take to make an how heavy is it..

  • @B1Grickie It took about two months to get this far, and it weighed about 20 pounds at the time.

  • @ChanmailleMan well done dude... i'm looking into making aset of sleeves because im a viking berserker but think it's only going to be 4 in 1.. but nice work. im impressed.

  • @B1Grickie Thank you. And 4-in-1 is a good choice for sleeves. It's a lot more flexible than 8-in-1, and lighter too. I made a full long shirt out of these same rings but in 4-in-1, and it weighed maybe 15 pounds.

  • Nice :D but try to add some padding underneath, you will be suprised with diference, arrows will stuck in a maille but not go through padding, it also hurt a lot less. But dont try to stab it with sword, trust me, it wont end well :D Sword blade is hella thinnier and it doesnt take so much force to stab through :)

  • Part of the reason that broke: Massive rings. Less stable. Small gauge coupled with that: less durable. Butted maille: Much less durability with the two previous factors. Plus at the range you're shooting at, it a lot more force in the impact. You would never be firing a bow at that range especially with how long you took to nock and fire. You'd be dead.

  • @TheBoss502 Oh trust me, I was not at all surprised that my shit got wrecked, for all the reasons you just stated. I was just curious.

  • 2:01 thats what she said

  • how heavy is the chain mail when its finished? You should make a video while making it ( just a small section ) to show how to start the pattern.... How long did this take you to make?

  • @SlimePr0ducti0ns The piece that I tested in this video weighed about 17-20 pounds at the time, and I have added to it since then, so it weighs about 25 pounds now. The shirt took about two months or so for the first stage that you have seen here, and I worked on it little by little for several months after that to get it to where it is now. I might make a tutorial sometime in late November or December for this and several other weaves.

  • @ChanmailleMan How strong is it now? I want something zombie proof.....

  • @SlimePr0ducti0ns It is damn strong, but it is not the kind of thing you would want if the zombies came. It is very dense and heavy, and somewhat stiff and restricting. My newest shirt would be much better: Lighter, more flexible, and strong enough to survive a zombie bite.

  • @ChanmailleMan 25lbs isn't that bad, military carry's over a hundred pounds of gear. But if It was all over the body I see how that could add up.... after you finished it did it do any better with the arrows?

  • @SlimePr0ducti0ns In finishing it, I didn't really change anything about it's inherent strength, just some aesthetic issues, like adding longer pieces to the bottom to make it cover the upper thighs and making it open down the front to make it more comfortable.

  • @ChanmailleMan Have you ever tried hitting it with a sword or something?

  • @SlimePr0ducti0ns I have not, because I only have two swords, one of which I made, and the other I inherited, and I do not want to damage either of them. I know that my maille is slash-proof, and somewhat stab-proof. I have jabbed myself with knives repeatedly without damaging myself or the maille.

  • i like your hair use that as armore lulz im just jokeing but where did you get that chainmail?

  • @starwalker97 I make all of my own chainmaille by hand.

  • his voice kkkkkkkkkkk

  • i wouldn't use that bow again if you dry fired it unless you want a horrible accident and you dont 'fire' arrow you loser

  • @TheRaptor4000 What would you suggest I say? Release? Spring forward?  Let it fly? I wasn't feeling eloquent at the time. I apologize.

  • @ChanmailleMan release is fine and again care when using a dry-fired bow you could get 90mph limb come back on you i've seen it happen not nice and didn't me to be harsh just hate it when people get archery wrong :)

  • @TheRaptor4000 Feel free to correct me, just don't be an asshole about it. That is the quickest way to get someone to ignore your advice.

  • This is a terrible test... 

  • @0ldSandwich It was the best I could do with severely limited resources. I apologize that it was not up to your standards.

  • "ohhh yeahh penetration". LOL

  • Using historically inaccurate butted chainmail = fail

    Absence of gambeson or aketon = fail

    Firing an arrow point blank at at hauberk with a flat anchored surface = fail

    It's pointless testing anything less then riveted and with no quilted armor since chainmail was never worn without these to things.

  • @ValentineTheory Obviously I was not trying to be historically accurate. I was only doing the best I could at the time with what I had, which was not much. If I was going for historical accuracy, I would not have posted any videos yet at all. I was not trying to find out what a knight or medieval warrior could withstand. I just wanted to know how MY work would hold up.

  • @ChanmailleMan why are you going into battle anytime soon

  • @TheRaptor4000 Nah.  I just felt like shooting some stuff.

  • @ValentineTheory No No No. Celts invetend chainmail, 250 BC. The gambeson was invented much, much later. So relax a bit with your "fail" statements.

  • It's ringmail.

  • @Zarboned I believe ringmail is actually rings sewn onto another piece of clothing like a shirt.

  • me and this man got into a fight....he had a knife and threatend to stab me and i am a parinoied type of person...would this armor witstand a stab?

  • @thrashsuxballs Yes, this armor would withstand a stab from most knives. It would still hurt, and there may be a tiny bit (no more than 1/8in.) of a cut, but yes.

  • @ChanmailleMan thank you chanmaille man, i am sorry that i am so parinoied about it because i have had frequent dreams about being stabbed but i don't know what the mean and now even things in my life are ironically being based around this fear of nives.....almost to the pont ware it is not a coinencedence

    i need to know what metals i should use i have titanium wire and stainless steel wire the only problem is i dont seem to understand how to weave then into a 4 in 1 pattern or 6 in 1 pattern

  • @thrashsuxballs lol oh no bad dreams

  • Ha.. Ha... Penetration....

  • I understand this ....I think you should keep making maille as all these arts are fading into past times. Keep up the good work!

  • Saying this keep up the good work and making the lovely armour...

  • I respect what you are trying to show in this video and I also like the chainmaille you have made,it is very nice! However if you are looking for historically correct results you will not get them this way..I make and shoot replica Warbows as found on the Mary Rose Ship.. My every day bow is Italian Mountain Yew 110Lbs@32", the bows on the ship went form 80Lb -180Lb. I can tell you that your armour and stand would not survive a hit from these bows with half inch shafts and needle bodkins.

  • @BarebowBen Don't get me wrong, I know this maille would not stand up to any real threat, and that the rest of my maille would not stand a much better chance. I just wanted to see how it would do against what I had on hand. I know how to make historically correct maille, though I have never made the effort to do so.

  • Significant power! Lol! Its a youth training bow, get a real recurve or compound bow and then u can talk power! Try about a 70 pound draw and do it itll go through ur mail and the stand, easy.

  • @hitmanbloodmoney69 First I would need to be able to draw a 70 pound bow, which I probably cannot.

  • Get laid.

    

  • @DUDEYOURSOAMAZING Yeah. Wouldn't that be nice.

  • My personal comment on this is; Just imagine if you'd done it using riveted flat rings. :D

  • i see the armpits are not connected. how would you connect them? make a video or something on your next chainmail shirt project on how to connect the armpits. thanks!

  • @WangsterBling I have found that it is not really worth it to connect the armpits on a shirt such as this, since if I did I would end up having a huge bulge under my arms that would be very uncomfortable. However, on a shirt with a looser weave, it would be as simple as continuing the weave inward from all directions until you reach a point of no continuation. At that point you should probably get some thicker gauge rings, because the stresses on the underarm area are significant.

  • Nice effort, but dont use wooden arrows in a compound bow. even if its thick. next try a #120pound english war bow at 20 mtrs and you will see your maille blow up in 4inch chunks. awesome

  • @robbieatvic I probably would have if I had such a weapon, but unfortunately I do not. These two bows were the most powerful I had on hand.

  • @robbieatvic

    Actually 8-in-1 MIGHT stop it. It would hurt like a mofo and I give it about a 50/50 shot, but 8-in-1 is insanely dense and protective. Unlike normal chainmaille, it actually stops impacts fairly well. Still, if anything can pierce armor, that bow you mentioned can :D

  • what do you think of a chainmaille that's made of key rings? i have a feeling that they'll provide much better resistance, but will take more than twice the amount of time to make.

  • @jacobbobcorn That is possible, and it is something that one of the greatest maillors I have ever seen has done. I have done some research, and, though "split rings" as they are called are a great resource, they are expensive to buy. I will send you a link that you should see if you are interested in this.

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  • @ChanmailleMan im actually very interested in making a chainmaill. one that will protect me very well, at a fair cost. if i can make a chainmail with the 8-1 weave using split rings, i should be ready for the zombie apocalypse. i would like to know what material, and size of key (split) rings i should be getting that will giv me the best bang for my buck. also, what size rings would give me the best protection?

  • @jacobbobcorn Well material? mild steel will do, but 1055 steel is VERY good. Heat treat the 1055 steel armor AFTER you made the armor out of that steel; but only heat treat it if you know how to do it. (I do, but it takes some one good to not mess-up or even brake the armor, it really is not that hard to do.) Then Pint the armor black or gray, the paint will help fight off corrosion.

  • @jacobbobcorn Oh I forgot to say; heat treating the 1055 steel makes it stronger. Always heat treat it after u made the armor; never befor. If you do it before it is just harder to work with. But with mail, I guess you can heat treat the rings before you put it together.

    Or just use Titanium, that can work too, and it is a bit stronger then steel and 44% lighter as well! Also very good vs Corrosion! They sell Titanium Chain-mail..

  • @jacobbobcorn Top quality or Should I say historically accrete Chain-mail were 18 to 17 gauge to be light... But to add strength & still keep it light they were 4mm, 5mm, 6mm, & 7mm rings being the biggest. Small rings makes it a bit stronger & makes it lighter. European Chain-mail at least senesce the Romans were in fact flatten wedged & or riveted to make it even stronger. A Halsberge or Hauberk Mail made like what I said on top can be as light as 15 lbs! And still be very strong!

  • @jacobbobcorn

    It would provide about the same amount of protection, but it would never rip like jumpring maille can. Most scale suits are put together with splitrings, and they tend to last just about forever.

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  • Chainmail abuse.

  • thats like the shitiest arrow ive ever seen.

  • @iworkforme Why thank you. My whole goal in life was to make the shittiest arrow you've ever seen. I can die in peace now.

  • @decreeofjuggalos Dude, not when it's a half inch diameter arrow. That thing was a tree.

  • 1st arrow wounds. 2nd arrow hurts, 3rd arrow gets laughed off.

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