Considering this is for a class I'd say you did a very good job. The only thing I would knock you for is the use of Top Gun. Some kind of quiet, tense music would have fit better. And the voices didn't have much urgency at the end. But overall, you did a good job.
It was a sad day.......... My Dad's secretary at the time, a very decent lady, lived in some apartments in the debris field and stated that she could see body parts as they fell on the surrounding roofs.
There was a Flight Attendant, body still fairly intact, who landed on a yard on Nile, I believe it was, and she had urinated in her pants. There was a visible wetness, not blood, in her crotch. So they knew what was coming. I take it she was terrified.
@3338MAN I was the president of the flight attendant's union for Pacific Southwest Airlines and the chairperson of a multi-airline aviation safety committee. Our union's disaster triage representatives were there just after the crash. I was out of town the day of the crash, and arrived the next day. My aunt was a police officer with SDPD and on the scene as well... for two days. I was a representative at the NTSB hearings and saw the A/C in the hangar as it was being reassembled. Who are you?
@390bullitt1968 I did, but not well, because he was very junior to me .His sister, Nikki, was a friend and co-worker of mine. Tragically, she also lost her husband in the second fatal PSA crash.
@TracyJ914 good lord! . Here is a story that you will not believe. My father was scheduled to be on United Flight 866 that crashed into TWA flight 266 over NYC on Dec 16,1960. No survivors. He had fallen asleep in the lounge of the airport. He took the next flight and was 3 hours late getting home. He walked into a living room of 50 grieving relatives! When he walked into the house, he did not know about the plane crash so he had no idea why everyone was crying. Un frikkin real. True.
@390bullitt1968 I do believe it. We held grief counseling sessions with mass trauma professionals after the crash. Many people took advantage of the service. People with "survivor guilt" had similar stories. Missed the flight, traded a trip, changed their mind at the last minute. it goes on. I can only imagine the emotional roller coaster in your family that day!
@TracyJ914 - I only learned of it in 1985. I was paging through a book of the worst air crashes in American history and asked my dad about the NYC crash. He then told me the story. WTH? I have no idea why he never shared it prior. He was on a business trip to Boeing and had stayed out late the night before. I guess jet lag caught up with him at 6 am the next day in Seattle. It was the first and only time he ever dozed in an airport. He had 5-7 truly close calls with death in his life.
p@TracyJ914 Sorry, but Perhaps there is a mistake in your profile, so it says that you are 25 years old, and this disaster was in 1978, 32 years ago... in other words, you were -7 years old...
@Gerardius Yep, there is a "mistake" in my profile, for the benefit of marketers who mine sites like these. Don't believe me if you don't want to. Up to you. There are a lot of people still involved in aviation with whom i worked very closely before, during, and after those dark days. Many are still among my friends.
@TracyJ914 Interesting. I do not recall such an individual. I was with the NTSB from the afternoon of Day One, through the conclusive and final NTSB report.
I rimember almost ll the audio transcription of the black box and the voices in the cabin, I read about this crash over 15 yrs ago, to "listen" to all this stuff going on and to know already what they said the moments after made me feel really strange... Anyway, good reconstruction.
One of the crew landed in a palm tree. One body dropped into the backseat of a car driven a young mom with baby in tow. she freaked out, and went into shock. a large part of the fusleage was intact and as many as 30 passengers were upright still belted in. All burned beyond recognition. Many of the first responders, from assorted agencies, ended up quiting their jobs that week. It was too much for them to handle. ( that is not well know,).
@390bullitt1968 the part about the torso going through the car windshield is true. However, due to the steep angle of collision, not much of the fuselage was intact.
@TracyJ914 - This person who told me, was the first of the first responders. Being that you are an epxert in air crash investigations, have you ever thought twice about the Pentagon crash. It seems odd to me the huge engines never left any impact damage. As to flight #11, the alleged speed is 150 mpg over the maximum speed for that plane. Highly experience pilots say that 767'scannot fly 500 mpg at 700 AGL. Any opinions?
@390bullitt1968 Almost all the first responders and emergency personnel suffered mental trauma from handling the devastation and loss of human life. Lots of rumors were circulating back then. I definitely advise you that from what I saw walking through the site before any of the aircraft pieces was removed, it would not be possible for antine to be in their seat belts and their bodies intact.
The Pentagon issue is still debated. I see plausibility in the arguments, but a lot of speculation.
Sorry, it's not perfect. We did what we could with FSX. Can't complain though, got an A and the instructor has been using this video as a demonstration in his class.
According to the transcripts, someone in the cockpit said "Ma, I love you!" right after the captain said "Brace yourself." This was just before impact. I don't think they ever identified who said it. I did a speech on this incident in college and when I read that line from the transcript, a few gasps could be heard in the audience. RIP to all aboard PSA 182, the Cessna and those on the ground who also perished that day.
@xxchinookxx Don't post anything that you don't know for sure. Or please share with us how you got that information, because I know what they were doing.
I read a book in 1980 that talked about flight PSA 182 that stated from a witness that SAW the crew drink and party. As for posting, YOU or anyone else CANNOT order me anything. I served 12 yrs in the Army, so enough with being authoritarion. It won't work with me.
@xxchinookxx So you read a book that said someone stated they saw the crew drinking? Makes for a good story, doesn't it?
That was a rumor that also circulated. The story was investigated very thoroughly, especially by all those parties that could possibly benefit if that were true. The crew was not drinking and partying and were cleared of that rumor. That factor also came out in the hearing.
Authoritarian? Don't know where you get that. I'm stating facts. Calling me names won't change that.
I tell you what, let's drop the stupid subject. It's like politics,religion,&sports; Too much media...too much character BS and TV yap yap! I really NEVER subscribe to anything or anyone's word of mouth, print or ads. What really happened back in 1978 with the PSA crew is moot, they're long gone, only sad thing is the innocent passengers. A lot of times airline companies CUT corners for time & money, (Hence) A A Flight 191 (1979).
NOOOOOOO, I am NOT calling you names........................ok?
NO......No one in their right mind would want to die, especially pilots. These individules have spent many years training and dedicating their time away from loved ones. I have spent many hours as a flight engineer during my Army days so I know SAFETY was my priority.
ARE WE CLEAR OF THAT CESSENA YET ? I GUESS ?! I HOPE ?!! WHAT FLAKYNESS ON THE PART OF THE "PILOTS" ! THEY SHOULD HAVE ASKED THE TOWER TO HAVE THE CESSENA MOVE AT LEAST 1 MILE TO THE LEFT (HEADING) OF THEM. I LISTENED TO THE ORIGINAL AND THE CREW SEEMED TO BE SLACKING AND THAT COST A LOT OF PEOPLE THEIR LIVES. FURTHERMORE EVEN WITH THE DAMAGE TO THE WING I THINK THE PLANE WOULD HAVE FLOWN IT THEY HAD APPLIED FULL THRUST. LOOK AT THE WING ON THE AIRBUSS THAT WAS HIT OVER IRAQ.
@doubleslottedflaps That wasn't an airbus, it was a 727, and they had lost ALL hydraulic power. Couldn't operate any of the flight controls. Thrust wouldn't have saved them, especially in that terrain. Also, ATC has all priority over positioning of the A/C. That's what the PSA pilots were counting on... that ATC knew where the trainer was. Big jets and small planes have no business sharing approach or takeoff airspace.
@TracyJ914 yes i know the psa was a 727. the reason i mentioned the airbus in iraq is becaue a missile was shot at one and blew part of the wing off and the pilots landed it. i will try to find the video and post the link.
@doubleslottedflaps I understand what you're saying. However, the part of the wing that was damaged leaked and consumed the very volatile hydraulic fluid. That left the controls that stabilize the A/C useless. Every situation, and every A/C is different. BTW, the recording is incomplete. I've heard the entire tape and it gives much more information than this one. The crew essentially had no time. I lost many friends and co-workers on this flight.
@doubleslottedflaps Thanks for posting the link to the Iraq incident. That was a heroic save. However, the circumstances and the state of the art in aviation were totally different. PSA was on final approach into San Diego. You must clear the hilly terrain and make a fairly steep and short descent over part of downtown and residential areas. Not the safest airport in the U.S.!
@Ktaurus26 There was. It was an Aeronaves jet that crashed in L.A. in about 1986 under almost identical circumstances. The only thing that came of the PSA 182 investigation was recommendations by the NTSB that the FAA ignored.
Considering this is for a class I'd say you did a very good job. The only thing I would knock you for is the use of Top Gun. Some kind of quiet, tense music would have fit better. And the voices didn't have much urgency at the end. But overall, you did a good job.
zenmachinefilms 3 weeks ago
this is still an awesome video.
dominoeffect7 1 month ago
How did you get those crash animations?
FlightSimmer948 1 month ago
is there footage of the real crash?
17143972290 2 months ago
@17143972290 No. But there are photographs
yesiamawizardjonny 1 month ago
this is a good description of how relationships and marriages end.
TheBATDJNuklier 2 months ago
R.I.P
shauniethebinweevil 2 months ago
Traffic at 12 o'clock and climbing......
Yeah.
Sad day for 135 people in the PSA, 2 in the Cessna and 7 on the Ground.
Not including the 22 additional people on the ground who were severely injured or the families, friends and co-workers of the Crew and Pax.
A totally avoidable nightmare.
The Cockpit chatter, the "I hope" and "I guess" sums this disaster up best.
This is the accident that give me nightmares.
After reading the transcript years ago I had to go for a long walk.
hammerogod 3 months ago
Nice video Though it was not a good decision to use Top Gun music
philipme109 3 months ago
very well done
bsable1965 3 months ago
was the explosion sound real?
99percentatheist 4 months ago
Excellent re-creation how did you get the fire on the wing?
FLT111 4 months ago
It was a sad day.......... My Dad's secretary at the time, a very decent lady, lived in some apartments in the debris field and stated that she could see body parts as they fell on the surrounding roofs.
cybervato74 5 months ago
I can imagine the horror! seriously this is the stuff of my darkest nightmares
nextlevel2burittos 6 months ago
4:01 I scare the shit OUT of me!!
pipidores 6 months ago
great video well done
imfml 6 months ago
That was awesome
sparkles13 7 months ago
The 727 has no pilots,LOL, Anyway this was such a sad incident.
legoryan9 7 months ago
I agree with you that the discussion should end. However, I also mourn the crew, who were good and professional human beings.
TracyJ914 7 months ago
Top Gun theme song seems hardly appropriate for this video...
JesseKing1981 8 months ago
My aunt was on this flight. My mom doesn't like to talk about it. So this is good for helping me understand. Thank you.
SaphiraFashion 8 months ago
One thing you have to remember is this was an accident and car accidents happen all the time. Just not as many people involved.
FSBO 8 months ago
There was a Flight Attendant, body still fairly intact, who landed on a yard on Nile, I believe it was, and she had urinated in her pants. There was a visible wetness, not blood, in her crotch. So they knew what was coming. I take it she was terrified.
3338MAN 8 months ago
@3338MAN Maybe it was an involuntary action when she was slammed against the ground.
FSBO 8 months ago
@3338MAN Sorry, I was part of the investigation and that is not true.
TracyJ914 7 months ago
@TracyJ914 Well then you will have to tell me who you are because I really was. Sorry, imposter.
3338MAN 7 months ago
@3338MAN I was the president of the flight attendant's union for Pacific Southwest Airlines and the chairperson of a multi-airline aviation safety committee. Our union's disaster triage representatives were there just after the crash. I was out of town the day of the crash, and arrived the next day. My aunt was a police officer with SDPD and on the scene as well... for two days. I was a representative at the NTSB hearings and saw the A/C in the hangar as it was being reassembled. Who are you?
TracyJ914 7 months ago
@TracyJ914 - Did you know Donald St. Germain ?
390bullitt1968 7 months ago
@390bullitt1968 I did, but not well, because he was very junior to me .His sister, Nikki, was a friend and co-worker of mine. Tragically, she also lost her husband in the second fatal PSA crash.
TracyJ914 7 months ago
@TracyJ914 good lord! . Here is a story that you will not believe. My father was scheduled to be on United Flight 866 that crashed into TWA flight 266 over NYC on Dec 16,1960. No survivors. He had fallen asleep in the lounge of the airport. He took the next flight and was 3 hours late getting home. He walked into a living room of 50 grieving relatives! When he walked into the house, he did not know about the plane crash so he had no idea why everyone was crying. Un frikkin real. True.
390bullitt1968 7 months ago
@390bullitt1968 I do believe it. We held grief counseling sessions with mass trauma professionals after the crash. Many people took advantage of the service. People with "survivor guilt" had similar stories. Missed the flight, traded a trip, changed their mind at the last minute. it goes on. I can only imagine the emotional roller coaster in your family that day!
TracyJ914 7 months ago
@TracyJ914 - I only learned of it in 1985. I was paging through a book of the worst air crashes in American history and asked my dad about the NYC crash. He then told me the story. WTH? I have no idea why he never shared it prior. He was on a business trip to Boeing and had stayed out late the night before. I guess jet lag caught up with him at 6 am the next day in Seattle. It was the first and only time he ever dozed in an airport. He had 5-7 truly close calls with death in his life.
390bullitt1968 7 months ago
p@TracyJ914 Sorry, but Perhaps there is a mistake in your profile, so it says that you are 25 years old, and this disaster was in 1978, 32 years ago... in other words, you were -7 years old...
Gerardius 6 months ago
@Gerardius Yep, there is a "mistake" in my profile, for the benefit of marketers who mine sites like these. Don't believe me if you don't want to. Up to you. There are a lot of people still involved in aviation with whom i worked very closely before, during, and after those dark days. Many are still among my friends.
TracyJ914 6 months ago
@TracyJ914 Interesting. I do not recall such an individual. I was with the NTSB from the afternoon of Day One, through the conclusive and final NTSB report.
3338MAN 7 months ago
@3338MAN Don't know about the individual to whom you're referring. Are you saying you were part of the NTSB investigation of PSA 182 in San Diego?
TracyJ914 7 months ago
@TracyJ914 182 and many others. I have no recollection of the individual's name, if I ever recalled it. It was been 33 years plus.
3338MAN 7 months ago
@3338MAN what person are you talking about???
TracyJ914 7 months ago
I currently live in san diego
1kikojr 9 months ago
I remember this I lived in SD and was 9 years old at the time. Really tripped me out.
epoxycock 9 months ago
Question, the time from collision to impact was just a few seconds? Or longer?
TexasMan77 9 months ago
@TexasMan77 - From the NTSB report - "At 09:01:47, a crunching sound was recorded and disturbances in
the aircraft electrical system were detected on an unused radio channel
in the CVR. Therefore, 0901:47 was fixed as the time of collision.
Electrical power to the recorder ended at 09:02:04.5, or about 2.5 seconds
before the ground impact was recorded on the seismograph" at the Museum of Natural History. So from collision to impact 17.5 seconds.
quantumleap7219 8 months ago
Where did you get the PSA plane? Is it payware?
123BIGTIMERUSHFAN 9 months ago
I rimember almost ll the audio transcription of the black box and the voices in the cabin, I read about this crash over 15 yrs ago, to "listen" to all this stuff going on and to know already what they said the moments after made me feel really strange... Anyway, good reconstruction.
deimos2k6 9 months ago
One of the crew landed in a palm tree. One body dropped into the backseat of a car driven a young mom with baby in tow. she freaked out, and went into shock. a large part of the fusleage was intact and as many as 30 passengers were upright still belted in. All burned beyond recognition. Many of the first responders, from assorted agencies, ended up quiting their jobs that week. It was too much for them to handle. ( that is not well know,).
390bullitt1968 9 months ago
@390bullitt1968 Not true as well. Nobody was buckled in their seats, and very little of the fuselage was intact. I was on the scene.
TracyJ914 7 months ago
@TracyJ914 - Maybe I misunderstood him.
390bullitt1968 7 months ago
@390bullitt1968 the part about the torso going through the car windshield is true. However, due to the steep angle of collision, not much of the fuselage was intact.
TracyJ914 7 months ago
@TracyJ914 - This person who told me, was the first of the first responders. Being that you are an epxert in air crash investigations, have you ever thought twice about the Pentagon crash. It seems odd to me the huge engines never left any impact damage. As to flight #11, the alleged speed is 150 mpg over the maximum speed for that plane. Highly experience pilots say that 767'scannot fly 500 mpg at 700 AGL. Any opinions?
390bullitt1968 7 months ago
@390bullitt1968 Almost all the first responders and emergency personnel suffered mental trauma from handling the devastation and loss of human life. Lots of rumors were circulating back then. I definitely advise you that from what I saw walking through the site before any of the aircraft pieces was removed, it would not be possible for antine to be in their seat belts and their bodies intact.
The Pentagon issue is still debated. I see plausibility in the arguments, but a lot of speculation.
TracyJ914 7 months ago
@390bullitt1968 - correction mph not mpg.
390bullitt1968 7 months ago
There were 2 people in the Cessna 172 - pilot and instructor.
krakenwave 10 months ago
STOP USING TOP GUN MUSIC!!!! It doesn't even fit this video!
3ISAMAGICNUMBR 10 months ago 13
@3ISAMAGICNUMBR Agreed!! I cant stand that movie or that geek Tom Cruise!
ryanspeed 9 months ago
Very Very Nice except the cheezy Top Gun music.. Much more enjoyable with sound off till 1:55
5uspended4nimation 3 weeks ago
In fact I am, how'd you guess there happy pants? Stop hiding it from momma.
3338MAN 10 months ago
Top gun was filmed in San Diego, and this is pretty good, other than at the end in which you can see the yoke turn right and down.
kierndino5 10 months ago
what's with the shit music? this isn't TOP GUN buddy
blum1982 10 months ago
Sorry, it's not perfect. We did what we could with FSX. Can't complain though, got an A and the instructor has been using this video as a demonstration in his class.
404258 1 year ago 9
@404258 just saying the small plane was IFR not VFR
uvidmaster 1 week ago in playlist Liked videos
The simulation is wrong. There were two people in the Cesna.
GregDad100 1 year ago
That's true, and it is was quite relevant to the investigation.
TracyJ914 7 months ago
@TracyJ914 Nothing 390buIlitt1968 posts
is to be believed, hes an dis-info-wart dott comm troll.
SkuIICrusherGhost 3 months ago
They know who said it. It is between that deceased and "Ma". Let's just leave it at that.
3338MAN 1 year ago
@3338MAN - I wasn't asking that the person be identified and I am sure they know who said it. Just saying they never ID'd the person, that's all.
reving19 2 months ago
According to the transcripts, someone in the cockpit said "Ma, I love you!" right after the captain said "Brace yourself." This was just before impact. I don't think they ever identified who said it. I did a speech on this incident in college and when I read that line from the transcript, a few gasps could be heard in the audience. RIP to all aboard PSA 182, the Cessna and those on the ground who also perished that day.
reving19 1 year ago
Gay
3338MAN 1 year ago
@3338MAN so are you
airlinefoodprez25 10 months ago
I believe that the PSA crew had partied in Sacramento the night before, so they had to be hung over.
xxchinookxx 1 year ago
@xxchinookxx Don't post anything that you don't know for sure. Or please share with us how you got that information, because I know what they were doing.
TracyJ914 7 months ago
I read a book in 1980 that talked about flight PSA 182 that stated from a witness that SAW the crew drink and party. As for posting, YOU or anyone else CANNOT order me anything. I served 12 yrs in the Army, so enough with being authoritarion. It won't work with me.
xxchinookxx 7 months ago
@xxchinookxx So you read a book that said someone stated they saw the crew drinking? Makes for a good story, doesn't it?
That was a rumor that also circulated. The story was investigated very thoroughly, especially by all those parties that could possibly benefit if that were true. The crew was not drinking and partying and were cleared of that rumor. That factor also came out in the hearing.
Authoritarian? Don't know where you get that. I'm stating facts. Calling me names won't change that.
TracyJ914 7 months ago
I tell you what, let's drop the stupid subject. It's like politics,religion,&sports; Too much media...too much character BS and TV yap yap! I really NEVER subscribe to anything or anyone's word of mouth, print or ads. What really happened back in 1978 with the PSA crew is moot, they're long gone, only sad thing is the innocent passengers. A lot of times airline companies CUT corners for time & money, (Hence) A A Flight 191 (1979).
NOOOOOOO, I am NOT calling you names........................ok?
xxchinookxx 7 months ago
@xxchinookxx The pilots DID make errors, but do you think they WANTED to die in a horrible crash?
PostalCode74 6 months ago
NO......No one in their right mind would want to die, especially pilots. These individules have spent many years training and dedicating their time away from loved ones. I have spent many hours as a flight engineer during my Army days so I know SAFETY was my priority.
xxchinookxx 6 months ago
ARE WE CLEAR OF THAT CESSENA YET ? I GUESS ?! I HOPE ?!! WHAT FLAKYNESS ON THE PART OF THE "PILOTS" ! THEY SHOULD HAVE ASKED THE TOWER TO HAVE THE CESSENA MOVE AT LEAST 1 MILE TO THE LEFT (HEADING) OF THEM. I LISTENED TO THE ORIGINAL AND THE CREW SEEMED TO BE SLACKING AND THAT COST A LOT OF PEOPLE THEIR LIVES. FURTHERMORE EVEN WITH THE DAMAGE TO THE WING I THINK THE PLANE WOULD HAVE FLOWN IT THEY HAD APPLIED FULL THRUST. LOOK AT THE WING ON THE AIRBUSS THAT WAS HIT OVER IRAQ.
doubleslottedflaps 1 year ago
@doubleslottedflaps That wasn't an airbus, it was a 727, and they had lost ALL hydraulic power. Couldn't operate any of the flight controls. Thrust wouldn't have saved them, especially in that terrain. Also, ATC has all priority over positioning of the A/C. That's what the PSA pilots were counting on... that ATC knew where the trainer was. Big jets and small planes have no business sharing approach or takeoff airspace.
TracyJ914 7 months ago
@TracyJ914 yes i know the psa was a 727. the reason i mentioned the airbus in iraq is becaue a missile was shot at one and blew part of the wing off and the pilots landed it. i will try to find the video and post the link.
doubleslottedflaps 7 months ago
@doubleslottedflaps I understand what you're saying. However, the part of the wing that was damaged leaked and consumed the very volatile hydraulic fluid. That left the controls that stabilize the A/C useless. Every situation, and every A/C is different. BTW, the recording is incomplete. I've heard the entire tape and it gives much more information than this one. The crew essentially had no time. I lost many friends and co-workers on this flight.
TracyJ914 7 months ago
@doubleslottedflaps Thanks for posting the link to the Iraq incident. That was a heroic save. However, the circumstances and the state of the art in aviation were totally different. PSA was on final approach into San Diego. You must clear the hilly terrain and make a fairly steep and short descent over part of downtown and residential areas. Not the safest airport in the U.S.!
TracyJ914 7 months ago
Where did you get the PSA plane?
123BIGTIMERUSHFAN 1 year ago
RIP to all who lost their lives in this accident. Very sad.
enigma800 1 year ago
except for a bit of bad acting very nice good job and yeah no seconds to disaster or any other show except for return to dwight and nile kinda weird
suzyrain2000us 1 year ago
im shocked there was never a seconds to disaster episode on psa 182.
Ktaurus26 1 year ago
@Ktaurus26 There was. It was an Aeronaves jet that crashed in L.A. in about 1986 under almost identical circumstances. The only thing that came of the PSA 182 investigation was recommendations by the NTSB that the FAA ignored.
TracyJ914 7 months ago
good recreation!
Ktaurus26 1 year ago
It's sad what happened to PSA 182 and the Cessna.
SketchUp707 1 year ago