Mike Pattinson OT8 discusses some of what he learned in Scientology

[bumcheek7]

How can he say this with a straight face - at first?

[cdoftx]

Why did L Ron Hubbard make up something so dumb? Did he want his religion to collapse? Did he want to see how much people would buy? He could have easily made up something wishy washy that no one could ever prove or disprove that people would accept. Then again, maybe Xenu is real D:

[PETERARNOLD68]

I totally get you Michael. In retrospect, how could anyone buy into such a bullshit.  Glad to see you're doing well.

[TheGroggler]

I'm glad he's out of it all now and happy to laugh about the anguished souls of these murdered aliens, but I cant help wondering how someone gets to this level in Scientology and can hear this first time around with a straight face or not get very angry that their money has been spent on this nonsense. From what I understand, that is a story you get told at OT3, and still this guy persevered all the way to OT8! Then again, its no more ridiculous than the crap any other religious suckers believe.

[aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa78815]

thats good tax free money. i want to start my own religion. who wants to help me write a sci-fi book to base it on?

[CaptianKeyz]

Yes, it does sound very stupid. Its science fiction written by a science fiction writer, what do you expect? Sit down, Ash tray! Stand up, Ash tray! Next level.

[ReverendMotherISIS]

Condemnation without investigation is the highest form of ignorance. ~Albert Einstein

[AroundSun]

pathetic

[markusdevw]

The watched mission impossible 3 and got spirit brain dead. Poor souls!

[ExcaliburSpacePad]

Why the he'll would he go to of all the trouble of freezing the bodies and flying them to earth?! King hypnotist. So many similarities with modern history; like a song you think you've heard before.

[demonwarrioruk]

he shows the real person behind the facade that is scientology in just over a minute. I really feel that guys like this are the best way to show this groups lies.

[isabellehebert]

Wait he is a former scientologist, right?

[xxxslayerxxx666]

@isabellehebert and now he is a victim of stalkers and extortionists....if you publicly make fun of scientology or even call them a cult or laugh about them then they will pay some of their followers to stalk them, or dig up dirty info on them to scare them into being quite....and this is no joke, go watch a documentary on it (BBC has done 2 different documentaries on it)

[TheDragonCult]

Perhaps Xenu is the equivalent of a Satan, while the body thetans represent bad past karma that suppresses your true inner potential.

[xxxslayerxxx666]

@TheDragonCult perhaps you live in a fantasy world? and aren't you forgetting that (according to folklore) god killed basically the entire population?

[TheDragonCult]

@xxxslayerxxx666 its best to think of the 'religious' part of Scientology as being a spiritual sch of thought. The story of the origin of the soul, told in a sci-fi setting... it doesn't matter whether or not they literally believe the story as being physically true, what they get out of the story is visualization of negative karma of past lives that can be redeemed this time. OT levels are like the initiations of Freemasonry or Eckankar- each level represents a level of understanding of ...

[TheDragonCult]

@TheDragonCult their version of the cosmic/esoteric story of creation.

[xxxslayerxxx666]

@TheDragonCult i understand that....but it's pseudo-science metaphysics... one word is enough to provoke a metaphysical shift, NOW! you don't need all these complex stories, living in the now is what life is all about, things aren't as black and white as faith/existentialism....just because there's no faith in your life doesn't mean that you must believe that all actions, thoughts, desires, or consequences are utterly pointless because it all ends in darkness.....stop searching for truth!

[ronny1979tube]

@xxxslayerxxx666 hi guys sorry if i step in your conversation but i red something interesting. I'm not questioning if Scientology do really works/is all crap. Why should TheDragonCult stop to search the truth?

[904Jags4life]

@ronny1979tube there's nothing wrong with searching for truth...but these sort of things are always subjective, no matter how much you twist it up, or how convincing it may be that your bible or belief is how god would want you to live...truth should be a personal quest, i'm not telling people to stop (though that does help, but only if you search for the will power to do so) i'm just telling people to stop being prideful and snotty about their beliefs, and stop arguing with others over this!

[904Jags4life]

@ronny1979tube so you see where i'm getting at? people can search all they want, just don't be dicks to people who think differently, and don't act like you are wiser or holier than them, and especially don't treat like they are idiots just because they don't see things your way.....everybody has a different walk in life, we must treat each person as a seed of infinite possibilities....true wisdom comes from observation/reasoning, if everyone believed one thing they we'd all see the same plant.

[904Jags4life]

@ronny1979tube and in case you didn't follow my analogy i was referring to a fruition of a person belief as a seed growing.....if you expose all the same information to a person as has been done to millions of others, then that's a lot of the same logic....and so that won't lead to progress, eventually everything becomes homogenized and then nobody is truly original or creative...the reason i hate religion is because they WANT everyone to have the same belief..........

[904Jags4life]

@ronny1979tube there's nothing wrong with allowing someone to have a choice in what path they take, you can do more damage by forcing your kid to believe in god than if you allowed them to have their own belief, they can develop much hatred towards the religious (this is the case for many atheists) it's like how when parents send their teen to boot camp because they are using drugs or stealing, and then they end up doing worse crimes out of spite towards their parents!

[904Jags4life]

@ronny1979tube and it's when people are SO convinced that their holy book is the voice of god itself that they become impossible to alter, therefore the ultimate level of arrogance...there is no changing those kinds of people because they are weak willed and fearful of the unknown, and some just take pascals wager into account and go "i'd rather be safe than sorry" that doesn't make you a christian, it means that you pathetic and choose the "winning" side.

[xxxslayerxxx666]

@ronny1979tube ughhhhh, i can't stand auto login (it's only convenient if only one person logs onto youtube lol) but 904Jags4life is my sisters account....reply here, not to any of the 5 messages i just sent you (sorry for that, i get carried away lol)

[ronny1979tube]

@xxxslayerxxx666 actually i think you're right about religious people. They always try to convince you that their choice is the best. And the fact that everyone should see things on a different way is also correct. But don't you think that something could possibly been universally accepted as true? I mean, diamond is harder dan gypsum. And everyone knows that. But one more thing: what you say about millions of people educated with the same informations remind me about something..

[ronny1979tube]

@xxxslayerxxx666 ... it is exactly what happens today in the schools and universities. and about the news sent on television by the media

[born2sparklee]

Jesus is the only way, truth, life.

[Hexagram777]

@born2sparklee the belief in Jesus and what he represents is just as nonsensical as what Scientologists believe

[Xiolablu3]

@Hexagram777 Yes but you dont have to pay to learn what Jesus represents...big difference

[Hexagram777]

@Xiolablu3 the entire world pays when fundamentalists spout their stupidity around

[Xiolablu3]

@Hexagram777 I agree, but I htink Scientology is one step worse at the moment. Just my opinion.

[hypothetic7]

@Hexagram777 At least Jesus was an historical person.

[xxxslayerxxx666]

@Hexagram777 there's nothing wrong with reading the word of christ...and he most certainly did exist....btw what most christians don't know and refuse to accept is that CHRISTIANITY, JUDIASM, AND ISLAM'S PROPHETS ARE ALL DESCENDANTS OF ABRAHAM! but they are just men, and they should be appreciated similarly to other wise men but of course not equally or more than modern greats like jiddu krishnamurti because of how they convince others that they are god incarnate!

[whoisspeaker4truth]

Spirits being made to watch bad movies?

Sounds just likewhat Scientology dishes out in The Bridge to Total Freedom!

[ChewmeBacon]

– I wanna be a XENU-ologist

– Sign here fpr the full 1,000,000,000 years. If you escape, we'll hunt you down and bill you for 50,k

– Sounds great ... when does the mind-fucking begin.

– You're already fucked. You just signed a billion year contract

[erfansvideos]

Scientology is a perfect example of how vulnerable we are to believe whatever were told. Religion..hint hint

[xxxslayerxxx666]

@erfansvideos wrong....we believe what we most desire to believe

"the constant assertion of belief is an indication of fear" -jiddu krishnamurti

our search for truth and meaning in our lives is what causes the chaos in this world since we all are gonna have our own interpretations....don't stress on it, why can't you just value the good things in your life and consider it meaningful to desire more of that, that way the whole world can work together towards doing more good!

[RainbowManification]

@erfansvideos scientology isn't even a real religion

[goisermass]

the cat is out of the sack, taxation is universal

[ronnysoeberg]

@goisermass Oh man, I just love that THAT is what you took away from this. Your mind is a thing of beauty :D

[scottfree1974]

Master hypnotist, but pure evil.

[mihaimoldo]

HOW THE FUCK CAN RICH PEOPLE BE THIS STUPID....FUCK

I'm so mad....damn

[daveyork0]

At 0:58 you can see his learning has lightened his mood. That's the tech working.

[fdsaman123]

Yeah...I mean, what's the big surprise? This "religion" was created by a sci-fi writer. The Xenu story is sci-fi. The reality is just so in your face. It just shows how powerful the brainwashing is with Scientology.

[Gabiwynne]

LOL!!!

[globe255]

People need to follow some course in the real life (what means outside scientology), so they know what they have to deal with in the unrealistic world inside scientology. You can say they need a outsider job so they can deal with a insider job and avoid to be an outsider.

[AnniaLilith]

hahahaha and all this s*it only for 330,000 us dlls!!!! can u believe it?!

[colbour]

can u imagine the overtime the pilots got...!

[OrezAivilo]

"Pattinson" :)

[mollie2810]

Science Fiction.