I love this song with Tarja and with Anette :-) Their very different but both amazing, i love the band and I am their fan, not a fan of Tarja or Anette
I couldn't watch the whole video..... It sucks...... This is one of favorite songs... But with annette is sounds so awful.... :-( tarja made the music special for me...... She was so perfect at the band.... :-( but i got her new sólo career! And i'm happy with it :)
@jean15june The boys chose Anette, they lover her and support her. Any comments like this are what are shooting them down not Anette. I will not support any comments like this.
@ToriEnsam if u do not want me commenting the truth about anette then u need to comment the truth about why anette belongs w/ nightwish. that is the very least u can do as a so-called nightwish fan. i will give anette her props she IS a sweet, VERY easygoing, funny lady who can sing, BUT not for nightwish. give me something, anything that supports why anette belongs. PLEASE NOTE she was PERFECT for her old band, allyson avenue
Oh my god...where is the rest of this wonderful song???????????? I can' believe it, that the powerful end of this song not exist anymore...Why? I think, Anette can't sing it.. please Nightwish: It was more consequent to play this song never ever...Uuuaaah.
@FrostFallenPoet I think she's horrible for Nightwish, but even if I thought she was a good fit, I still wouldn't say "perfect". After all, this is one of their best songs (if not the best), and she can't sing the awesome finale for this song.
@12321marianne You could call it a scream, but you would be incorrect. She sings using a legitimate vocal technique. It is most definitely a note, and it is indeed musical and artistic. Opinions aside, that is a fact.
What "legitimate technique" are you referring to? I saw her fans say that she is belting. Either they never heard how belting sounds like. It's producing sounds in the upper register, CLEANLY, using full chest voice.
Anette is not belting, but screeching sounds because she cannot sing them.
If she sings a song 2 times, not even half the notes are matching.
I think they considered it while taking her you know..they are musicians. there isn't a singer that could sing full of life while focusing on her skills for singing "right". let's say many singers simply stop their emotions for being able to focus on technical details and for creative music doing that makes them nothing more than a construction worker. Instead of "your ears" try listening with open mind so you won't be bothering yourself with bitching on it.
First of all nobody is bitching about anything. I made a statement and enforced it with arguments. If there is someone bitching here it surely is not me.
Second, "she sings badly but with passion" can be said about any bad singer, isn't it?
Where do you feel emotion, in the way she is agitating herself on stage? It surely is not present in her voice.
Art is a human activity that affects emotions by using skill and virtuosity.
No virtuosity mean NO art, it's bread and circus.
@12321marianne I didn't say that you were right about anette's talent or skills.
considering that you actually used "agitation" .. it's simply how you see her, not how she is. agitating is what the singers i talked about do when they are unabled to feel the emotions to interpret the songs... anette is alive for each second on their concerts
and no. still your opinions are subjective. creativity with balance is the most important for nightwish's genre.
Vibrato is a natural pitch variation in the voice. Even we are using it, while speaking, also Anette does while "singing". Problem is that it sounds bad by nature and it's uncontrolled.
People in the business and public opinion alike (several millions of die hard fans, media, reviewers etc) consider Tarja one of the best talents and also one of the most skilled singers.
They say her vibrato is stellar, I think that also.. you may not like it but you are an exception.
At the end, it's you who looses. Seriosly you cannot hope to attain the same level of .. well, pleasure.. when you hear Anette, than when hearing a beautiful, unique and lyrical voice like Tarja's.
That's what true lyricism is (not talking about 'lyrical soprano' classification, that's another business).
It's hearing a perfect voice and a beautiful interpretation, but THAT VOICE to express the sentiment.
This is how it reaches the soul. At least my soul.. what can I say.
So the feeling should be in the voice to penetrate, not in the attitude.
I did not want to talk about attitude because it's superficial - but you know well that Anette is criticised also for her "poppish" / "emo" way of being and dressing.
So: no beauty in the voice, no feeling in the voice, no attitude. It eludes me what can be seen in Anette, I just think that people bring the "feeling" argument to excuse her many defects.
@12321marianne Gladly lets hope walking in the air remains one of her songs as I found it dire from the first moment I heard it.
Tarja's voice and Annette's voice are incomparable because they are so different in style, that is one of the reasons she was chosen, so these comparative arguments (especially when you try bringing in technical aspects of the voice) are farcical because you cannot compare the two.
If you don't like the way Annette sings that's fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but thankfully for the band there are plenty of us out there who can appreciate both women's styles and remain faithful to the true point of Nightwish which is the lyrical content and mood of the songs.
I brought basic technical aspects of the voice that have nothing to do with style.
Singing a song by the notes (and not by ear like Anette), a good ear and vocie to hit a simple musical note, to hold a note's duration, to avoid nazality .. etc.
Those are basic music principles any singer knows and respects.
Even at school at optional music classes teach you these things in the first year.
I know we should stop comparing Anette and Tarja, but its just impossible not to do that specially in a song like this one. I really think this is a very Tarja song and they just shouldn't be playing that live with Anette.
There's no emotion like it used to. No love, no heart...
I know we should stop comparing Anette and Tarja, but its just impossible not to do that specially in a song like this one. I really think this is a very Tarja song and they just shouldn't be playing that live with Anette.
There's no emotion like it used to. No love, no heart...
Well, I mean Anette really brought something special into this song, she sings it as she wants and I'm sure guys and all the people taking care of the band would tell her about mistakes etc. in this song, if she did it in a bad way!
By the way, one of my most favourite songs by Nightwish, although I LOVE every single one :)
Please stop raping my ears and let off of the old songs, make Songs for Anettes voice ... but don't destroy the legacy of Tarja !!!
Jenaya100 2 months ago
@Jenaya100 Nothing is destroyed. The original recordings are still very much intact. THAT is the legacy, and it still lives on.
harrawrson 2 months ago
I love this song with Tarja and with Anette :-) Their very different but both amazing, i love the band and I am their fan, not a fan of Tarja or Anette
TheUni89 3 months ago 5
@TheUni89 Thank you for that comment, I agree with you completely!! Bravo :D x
ToriEnsam 2 months ago 3
I couldn't watch the whole video..... It sucks...... This is one of favorite songs... But with annette is sounds so awful.... :-( tarja made the music special for me...... She was so perfect at the band.... :-( but i got her new sólo career! And i'm happy with it :)
yordiesq 3 months ago
@jean15june The boys chose Anette, they lover her and support her. Any comments like this are what are shooting them down not Anette. I will not support any comments like this.
ToriEnsam 5 months ago 2
@ToriEnsam if u do not want me commenting the truth about anette then u need to comment the truth about why anette belongs w/ nightwish. that is the very least u can do as a so-called nightwish fan. i will give anette her props she IS a sweet, VERY easygoing, funny lady who can sing, BUT not for nightwish. give me something, anything that supports why anette belongs. PLEASE NOTE she was PERFECT for her old band, allyson avenue
jean15june 5 months ago
Oh my god...where is the rest of this wonderful song???????????? I can' believe it, that the powerful end of this song not exist anymore...Why? I think, Anette can't sing it.. please Nightwish: It was more consequent to play this song never ever...Uuuaaah.
beFashLG 5 months ago
@beFashLG Read what h06anbjo wrote just 2 comments further down.
HeartsEyes 5 months ago
i give anything to meet them live,as they are my fav band right now.
buffy1657 6 months ago
@Smeagol1234567890
They haven't had that part of the song played live since 2004.... Tuomas didn't really like them and Tarja had a problem with them....
So taking that part out was decided LONG before Anette even joined the band...
h06anbjo 6 months ago
who is the girl on public singing??!! she sings maybe better than Annete!! someone must pick her for a band hehe
Griffope 10 months ago
Anette proves once again why she is the perfect fit for Nightwish.
Such haunting beauty befitting of this symphonic metal angel.
FrostFallenPoet 1 year ago
@FrostFallenPoet I think she's horrible for Nightwish, but even if I thought she was a good fit, I still wouldn't say "perfect". After all, this is one of their best songs (if not the best), and she can't sing the awesome finale for this song.
blacxthornE 3 months ago
Oh my God.. Anette is amazing.. :)
Wilczasta 1 year ago 7
Oh my god. The note at 2:27... SO chilling! Anette is just so amazing after a nice vocal rest!
harrawrson 1 year ago 11
@harrawrson
That is anything but a note.
I could call it a scream or a squeek.
I got the chills also but from utter disgust.
12321marianne 2 months ago
@12321marianne You could call it a scream, but you would be incorrect. She sings using a legitimate vocal technique. It is most definitely a note, and it is indeed musical and artistic. Opinions aside, that is a fact.
harrawrson 2 months ago
@harrawrson
I was being ironical.
What "legitimate technique" are you referring to? I saw her fans say that she is belting. Either they never heard how belting sounds like. It's producing sounds in the upper register, CLEANLY, using full chest voice.
Anette is not belting, but screeching sounds because she cannot sing them.
If she sings a song 2 times, not even half the notes are matching.
It's all by ear.
What she does has nothing to do with music or art
12321marianne 2 months ago
@12321marianne
I think they considered it while taking her you know..they are musicians. there isn't a singer that could sing full of life while focusing on her skills for singing "right". let's say many singers simply stop their emotions for being able to focus on technical details and for creative music doing that makes them nothing more than a construction worker. Instead of "your ears" try listening with open mind so you won't be bothering yourself with bitching on it.
reafras 2 months ago 3
@reafras
First of all nobody is bitching about anything. I made a statement and enforced it with arguments. If there is someone bitching here it surely is not me.
Second, "she sings badly but with passion" can be said about any bad singer, isn't it?
Where do you feel emotion, in the way she is agitating herself on stage? It surely is not present in her voice.
Art is a human activity that affects emotions by using skill and virtuosity.
No virtuosity mean NO art, it's bread and circus.
12321marianne 2 months ago
@12321marianne I didn't say that you were right about anette's talent or skills.
considering that you actually used "agitation" .. it's simply how you see her, not how she is. agitating is what the singers i talked about do when they are unabled to feel the emotions to interpret the songs... anette is alive for each second on their concerts
and no. still your opinions are subjective. creativity with balance is the most important for nightwish's genre.
reafras 2 months ago 2
@reafras
Vibrato is a natural pitch variation in the voice. Even we are using it, while speaking, also Anette does while "singing". Problem is that it sounds bad by nature and it's uncontrolled.
People in the business and public opinion alike (several millions of die hard fans, media, reviewers etc) consider Tarja one of the best talents and also one of the most skilled singers.
They say her vibrato is stellar, I think that also.. you may not like it but you are an exception.
12321marianne 2 months ago
@reafras
At the end, it's you who looses. Seriosly you cannot hope to attain the same level of .. well, pleasure.. when you hear Anette, than when hearing a beautiful, unique and lyrical voice like Tarja's.
That's what true lyricism is (not talking about 'lyrical soprano' classification, that's another business).
It's hearing a perfect voice and a beautiful interpretation, but THAT VOICE to express the sentiment.
This is how it reaches the soul. At least my soul.. what can I say.
12321marianne 2 months ago
@reafras
So the feeling should be in the voice to penetrate, not in the attitude.
I did not want to talk about attitude because it's superficial - but you know well that Anette is criticised also for her "poppish" / "emo" way of being and dressing.
So: no beauty in the voice, no feeling in the voice, no attitude. It eludes me what can be seen in Anette, I just think that people bring the "feeling" argument to excuse her many defects.
12321marianne 2 months ago
@reafras
And lastly before i get flagged as spammer: Chloe has a fair interpretation, but cannot be compared.
Tarja is a way superior singer in all aspects (as an "animal", range, technique, control, power, timbre.. I can fill this page really).
She never covered a song in order to mimic the original and it's not to be expected, but gives them another dimension.
Almost everytime worked: Phantom at the opera, Over the hills, Walking in the air - many still thing those are her songs :)
12321marianne 2 months ago
@12321marianne Gladly lets hope walking in the air remains one of her songs as I found it dire from the first moment I heard it.
Tarja's voice and Annette's voice are incomparable because they are so different in style, that is one of the reasons she was chosen, so these comparative arguments (especially when you try bringing in technical aspects of the voice) are farcical because you cannot compare the two.
ToriEnsam 2 months ago
If you don't like the way Annette sings that's fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but thankfully for the band there are plenty of us out there who can appreciate both women's styles and remain faithful to the true point of Nightwish which is the lyrical content and mood of the songs.
ToriEnsam 2 months ago
@ToriEnsam
No, I am sorry but I did not.
I brought basic technical aspects of the voice that have nothing to do with style.
Singing a song by the notes (and not by ear like Anette), a good ear and vocie to hit a simple musical note, to hold a note's duration, to avoid nazality .. etc.
Those are basic music principles any singer knows and respects.
Even at school at optional music classes teach you these things in the first year.
She has no talent, that's the difference.
12321marianne 2 months ago
I know we should stop comparing Anette and Tarja, but its just impossible not to do that specially in a song like this one. I really think this is a very Tarja song and they just shouldn't be playing that live with Anette.
There's no emotion like it used to. No love, no heart...
Sorry
adceza7 1 year ago
I know we should stop comparing Anette and Tarja, but its just impossible not to do that specially in a song like this one. I really think this is a very Tarja song and they just shouldn't be playing that live with Anette.
There's no emotion like it used to. No love, no heart...
Sorry
adceza7 1 year ago
the best band in the world!!!, ...
emppuhexan89 1 year ago
love this song so much, one of my favourites, and i am so happy they play it again!
sylkar8 1 year ago
If only we could stop comparing Tarja and Anette!
Well, I mean Anette really brought something special into this song, she sings it as she wants and I'm sure guys and all the people taking care of the band would tell her about mistakes etc. in this song, if she did it in a bad way!
By the way, one of my most favourite songs by Nightwish, although I LOVE every single one :)
Thank you for upload!
TarjaHolopainen 2 years ago
born from silence...i love Nightwish!
ElisetteTheQueen 2 years ago
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Tarja Back! ='(
Evnightlerd 2 years ago
Emppu's solo was great there people say he isn't very good but he brings such emotion and unique style he is amazing
hrtswrm 2 years ago 3
I hope you enjoyed the concert you went to :D
ToriEnsam 2 years ago
cant believe they sang this. i love this song and i wasnt there cos i couldnt get a hotel. :(
wohanlon 2 years ago 5
That's a real shame :(
ToriEnsam 2 years ago
Oooh I was at this concert! A lot further back than you tho :(
ZombieMarshmallow23 2 years ago
Aww.. I was amazingly lucky at this concert, I was right at the front because I got to meet them before the show. Was great though wasn't it :)
ToriEnsam 2 years ago