On your tuning tips...An approach that I was taught years ago and has always worked maybe some would like to try. Batter just past wrinkle, then find the note that makes that particular shell resonate the best. It takes a few minutes, but worth it. Keep it as loose as possible but at a point, just go 1/4 turns at a time, you will hear/feel it happen. Then tune the reso to feel, the resonator as just as big an effect on bass drum feel as the batter head. My reso is always tight so ya,I pillow
listening to these bass drums in this video sound, makes me think that the Tama is better than others (more expansive bass sound)... maybe its 'cos the drumheads, but... 'maybe'
In a live situation is the engineer using separate compression,gating and eq. just for the kick? Is there enough p.a. to fully reproduce the kick? Some guys are miking,triggering and using the yamaha sub kick at the same time taking up 3 channels on the board. There is just so many factors involved. Basically, this video was to show beginners that bass drums do come in different sizes & depths and yes they all sound a bit different. You have to decide for yourself what you prefer?
There are so many variables involved in getting a good bass drum sound. 1. Heads used. 2. Tension applied. 3. Beater used ( felt,plastic,wood, etc) 4. Pedal used. ( chain,belt,direct drive) 5. Is a pad used on the batter head to increase durability? 6. Any muffling used? 7. Wood type 8. Size & depth of drum 8. Room acoustics 9. Heel down or toe used on pedal? The list can go on and on!
20" deep kicks are primarily meant to produce a more "clicky" sound. There are a lot of drummers that play metal/metalcore, nu metal, etc. that you see playing these kicks (not for looks entirely) but for that sound as well.
the pillows isn't all about the sound, it also changes the feel. without pillows or some kind of muffling, if you have a tight head your beater will bound on the head, which is horrible. i use just 1 small towel pushed against the batter head in a 24x18 bass druma nd it sounds and feels amazing. shakes the room
@LOUD7 I agree with you. I just wanted to make a video showing people how different depths really make a difference. Most people just think oh it's a 20 or 22 kick. Anything over 18 inches in depth takes too long to get the air out.
@TheDonnytomlinson I really dont get the 20x 20 ,22x20 bass drums.I just see these "cannons" as a fad that some, at a not to distant date, might regret being caught up in.
@sh4ne Hey, I bet you can't guess how much money he's made with those awful sounding drums. Why don't you do something like, go home, practice, ask mommy and daddy to finance your career, and shut up? Funny thing is, he's done tours with real people, and I've never heard of you. Maybe you should learn your craft instead of trying to make yourself look like a big man on youtube. Wanna be.
I've tried those Aquarian Superkick heads, and they are ok... I still prefer Clear Powerstroke 3's with some muffling. It just seems a little more punchy, but to each his own. Good vid.
@TheDonnytomlinson Thank you very much for your tips, I just moved up the spurs on my kick drum like you said and there is a bit more resonance and beef to the kick sound now. I use the Aquarian Regulator head with no porthole, and recently switched from an Aquarian Superkick II to an Aquarian Performance II kick head, they both sound nice but the Peformance II head has less muffling so it sustains much more.
Don't forget to stick a kickpad on the batter head. It will make the head last longer for sure! Remo,Aquarian and Evans all make patches for single and double kicks.
can you give me the first bass drum :P
anathema1986 1 week ago
On your tuning tips...An approach that I was taught years ago and has always worked maybe some would like to try. Batter just past wrinkle, then find the note that makes that particular shell resonate the best. It takes a few minutes, but worth it. Keep it as loose as possible but at a point, just go 1/4 turns at a time, you will hear/feel it happen. Then tune the reso to feel, the resonator as just as big an effect on bass drum feel as the batter head. My reso is always tight so ya,I pillow
PappaTiempo 3 weeks ago
listening to these bass drums in this video sound, makes me think that the Tama is better than others (more expansive bass sound)... maybe its 'cos the drumheads, but... 'maybe'
cenaga3 1 month ago
In a live situation is the engineer using separate compression,gating and eq. just for the kick? Is there enough p.a. to fully reproduce the kick? Some guys are miking,triggering and using the yamaha sub kick at the same time taking up 3 channels on the board. There is just so many factors involved. Basically, this video was to show beginners that bass drums do come in different sizes & depths and yes they all sound a bit different. You have to decide for yourself what you prefer?
TheDonnytomlinson 2 months ago
There are so many variables involved in getting a good bass drum sound. 1. Heads used. 2. Tension applied. 3. Beater used ( felt,plastic,wood, etc) 4. Pedal used. ( chain,belt,direct drive) 5. Is a pad used on the batter head to increase durability? 6. Any muffling used? 7. Wood type 8. Size & depth of drum 8. Room acoustics 9. Heel down or toe used on pedal? The list can go on and on!
TheDonnytomlinson 2 months ago
i fucking love the TAMA one
CamoteMaster 2 months ago
i love the longer bass drums because it has more of a punch in my opinion
TheUfomonkys 4 months ago
I like the Jump :D
jdgrecords 4 months ago
20" deep kicks are primarily meant to produce a more "clicky" sound. There are a lot of drummers that play metal/metalcore, nu metal, etc. that you see playing these kicks (not for looks entirely) but for that sound as well.
asylumx502 5 months ago
This is a decent showing of these kicks. You need to remember that the Tama is a birch kick, thats why it has so much more punch.
9ScubaSteve1 6 months ago
Thanks!
rawfood777 6 months ago
the pillows isn't all about the sound, it also changes the feel. without pillows or some kind of muffling, if you have a tight head your beater will bound on the head, which is horrible. i use just 1 small towel pushed against the batter head in a 24x18 bass druma nd it sounds and feels amazing. shakes the room
TehSeanRadcliffe 7 months ago
20x16" maple will always be my favourite kickdrum size.
JerryBeatFreak 9 months ago
@LOUD7 I agree with you. I just wanted to make a video showing people how different depths really make a difference. Most people just think oh it's a 20 or 22 kick. Anything over 18 inches in depth takes too long to get the air out.
TheDonnytomlinson 11 months ago
@TheDonnytomlinson I really dont get the 20x 20 ,22x20 bass drums.I just see these "cannons" as a fad that some, at a not to distant date, might regret being caught up in.
LOUD7 7 months ago
20x18 is definitely my favorite size.Very punchy.
LOUD7 11 months ago
the ddrum sounds better (:
TheNemoSK8s 1 year ago 2
@TheDonnytomlinson superkick 1 is one ply, superkick 2 is 2 plies
pescalante2 1 year ago
20x22 ftw. these all sound awful btw
sh4ne 1 year ago
@sh4ne Hey, I bet you can't guess how much money he's made with those awful sounding drums. Why don't you do something like, go home, practice, ask mommy and daddy to finance your career, and shut up? Funny thing is, he's done tours with real people, and I've never heard of you. Maybe you should learn your craft instead of trying to make yourself look like a big man on youtube. Wanna be.
brainlowe 1 year ago
I've tried those Aquarian Superkick heads, and they are ok... I still prefer Clear Powerstroke 3's with some muffling. It just seems a little more punchy, but to each his own. Good vid.
Sadist102 1 year ago
Yeah, you better use the shorter drum...if you take up any of my room on stage, I'll kick it off like a music stand! Great vids man..
brainlowe 1 year ago
Also make sure to raise your spurs up so the bottom hoop on the resonant head is not touching the floor. This helps with more resonance and low end.
TheDonnytomlinson 1 year ago
@TheDonnytomlinson Thank you very much for your tips, I just moved up the spurs on my kick drum like you said and there is a bit more resonance and beef to the kick sound now. I use the Aquarian Regulator head with no porthole, and recently switched from an Aquarian Superkick II to an Aquarian Performance II kick head, they both sound nice but the Peformance II head has less muffling so it sustains much more.
WhenxChristxReturnsx 2 months ago
Don't forget to stick a kickpad on the batter head. It will make the head last longer for sure! Remo,Aquarian and Evans all make patches for single and double kicks.
TheDonnytomlinson 1 year ago