very interesting results, but it just proves that we are all capable of doing something just as bad in the face of someone who has some kind of authority.
Why the debate below? The CURRENT experiment did NOT take it to the point of supposed death like they did in the 60's. There was no trauma for the participants in the current study. It was NOT unethical, it was experimental only.
Force-stopping the experiment at only 150V doesn't really replicate the original properly, so this particular experiment is completely void and doesn't tell us if these people will go all the way to the death shock switch.
I've only got into the first 50 seconds but, 1. They were ALL volunteers. Yes he did deceive them, but this shit hole American reporter makes it out as if Milgram FORCED them into doing the test. 2. If he didn't do this, and so call "Pressure them into shocking" he WOULD NOT have got the results that he did!
This report really brings up some interesting points. We're all just trained monkeys, at the base level, otherwise there would be no reason to seek approval or condemnation for our actions with the external. Right or Wrong is only a degree of internal perspective learned through environmental conditions.
@vt8man As long as the test subject is informed after the experiment the nature of the experiment, and no electrical shocks are actually administered after the conclusion of the experiment
@vt8man i think milgram's particular one was unethical... but i think now as long as the participants know they can truly stop at anytime if they wish and at the end they know what the experiment was truly about and they meet the person afterward so they know they are ok, and they don't let them go through the full experiment (i.e. stop at 150v) I think it's ok... the main problem was people didn't believe they could truly stop and the too much stress during the experiment part
@2550505 it was unethical... it was proven to be unethical, It put to much stress on the participants... the participants were messed up mentally after because they thought they had killed this guy.
@247cuckoo Only 1% of the test subjects were actually suffering after. The rest said they were glad they participated. It was proven unethical, but we have concluded so much from this expirement.
And we still round up guys who were 20 years old and trained dogs in Nazi Germany? Those boys were under a lot more duress than an egghead in a lab asking them to continue. It was "do your job or be shot."
That is why the Milgram experiment was so controversial back then. Many did not want to be realistic with the soldiers of Germany during WWII. Almost nobody could have said no, and those who did say no (Jehovah Witnesses) were put in death camps.
up to 150 only? what's the point of doing an experiment if you're going to do only half of it? You'll get lousy results, such as: "probably all of us are capable [of doing it]"
@TRSkobold Data from the original Milgram study showed that the vast majority of people who continued through 150v continued through to the maximum voltage. Thus, it is a reasonable assumption that people in the replication who went to 150v would also have continued through to the end. Of course, it's just an assumption, but today's ethical standards (thankfully) would disallow a complete replication.
very interesting results, but it just proves that we are all capable of doing something just as bad in the face of someone who has some kind of authority.
tjlopez0946 1 month ago
Why the debate below? The CURRENT experiment did NOT take it to the point of supposed death like they did in the 60's. There was no trauma for the participants in the current study. It was NOT unethical, it was experimental only.
katndognco 3 months ago
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derekrichardt 6 months ago
Force-stopping the experiment at only 150V doesn't really replicate the original properly, so this particular experiment is completely void and doesn't tell us if these people will go all the way to the death shock switch.
Moontouchofficial 10 months ago
Awsome I have been trying to find this all day
sunkist1589 1 year ago
I've only got into the first 50 seconds but, 1. They were ALL volunteers. Yes he did deceive them, but this shit hole American reporter makes it out as if Milgram FORCED them into doing the test. 2. If he didn't do this, and so call "Pressure them into shocking" he WOULD NOT have got the results that he did!
iamgreatish 1 year ago
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This report really brings up some interesting points. We're all just trained monkeys, at the base level, otherwise there would be no reason to seek approval or condemnation for our actions with the external. Right or Wrong is only a degree of internal perspective learned through environmental conditions.
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crimsonsamuraiftw 1 year ago
this is a reproduction of the study? This must be staged, wasn't this deemed unethical?
vt8man 1 year ago
@vt8man yes its a reproduction, and it hasnt been deemed unethical yet
MdrnDncr87 1 year ago
@vt8man As long as the test subject is informed after the experiment the nature of the experiment, and no electrical shocks are actually administered after the conclusion of the experiment
umahuma4 1 year ago
@vt8man i think milgram's particular one was unethical... but i think now as long as the participants know they can truly stop at anytime if they wish and at the end they know what the experiment was truly about and they meet the person afterward so they know they are ok, and they don't let them go through the full experiment (i.e. stop at 150v) I think it's ok... the main problem was people didn't believe they could truly stop and the too much stress during the experiment part
247cuckoo 9 months ago
@247cuckoo It may seem cruel or harsh, but it is not unethical.
2550505 5 months ago
@2550505 it was unethical... it was proven to be unethical, It put to much stress on the participants... the participants were messed up mentally after because they thought they had killed this guy.
247cuckoo 5 months ago
@247cuckoo Only 1% of the test subjects were actually suffering after. The rest said they were glad they participated. It was proven unethical, but we have concluded so much from this expirement.
Joncinnabon 4 months ago in playlist conformity
@2550505 I mean milgram's original experiment was proven unethical
247cuckoo 5 months ago
And we still round up guys who were 20 years old and trained dogs in Nazi Germany? Those boys were under a lot more duress than an egghead in a lab asking them to continue. It was "do your job or be shot."
That is why the Milgram experiment was so controversial back then. Many did not want to be realistic with the soldiers of Germany during WWII. Almost nobody could have said no, and those who did say no (Jehovah Witnesses) were put in death camps.
itpduder 1 year ago
"shocking experiment" lol
Teddyclopse 1 year ago 12
up to 150 only? what's the point of doing an experiment if you're going to do only half of it? You'll get lousy results, such as: "probably all of us are capable [of doing it]"
TRSkobold 1 year ago
@TRSkobold Data from the original Milgram study showed that the vast majority of people who continued through 150v continued through to the maximum voltage. Thus, it is a reasonable assumption that people in the replication who went to 150v would also have continued through to the end. Of course, it's just an assumption, but today's ethical standards (thankfully) would disallow a complete replication.
oygovalt 1 year ago
Good old Milgram
BerPC96 2 years ago 15