Edward VI and Mary Tudor

[KyleTiaau631]

nun bin ne sau

[CleliaJamieb269]

naa bin reich aber einsam

[QueenBrendaSIV]

@AutumnSplendors Go tell that to my fellow countrymen, to my neighbors, to my classmates, to every stranger in peru who insulted and discriminated me, my family and fellow evangelicals for being a, how did they called? "Heretic" from the true catholic church....But it doesn't matter now, I am in America, a protestant country and I will defend its evangelical tradition from every catholic here, I mean, if they wanna be catholic, why don't they go to latin america, or to the Vatican?

[IsobelDeBrujah]

@QueenBrendaSIV Because that's not how America works. Your religion is something that is protected as is Catholicism and Judaism and Paganism and lack of religion altogether. If you want to defend something please do look to the freedom of religion for all Americans enshrined in the constitution.

[QueenBrendaSIV]

@AutumnSplendors The kids and teachers made my life miserable back in Peru because I was evangelical, catholics are deeply evil ppl with rotten hearts, and they shall pay for it! I swear to God that I will murder a catholic before I die. Ever since I as born I have been the enemy of the catholic church, and so my children will be, as soon as they learn to speak I will teach them to insult and harass every catholic in the world.

[PiperFreeze06]

@QueenBrendaSIV

I must disagree with you. Not all Catholics are evil, just as not all Evangelicals are evil.

My father was raised Lutheran and my mother was raised Catholic- my three siblings and I were raised Catholic and my dad never objected to it. It is only narrow-minded individuals that claim that all members of a single religious denomination are evil.

[QueenBrendaSIV]

@AutumnSplendors Of course, Catholicism must be destroyed for good.

[PiperFreeze06]

Bravo, Mary! I don't care if history calls her "Bloody Mary"- it is a great injustice to all she endured and what she fought all her life to retain. She had her faults like everyone else, but she also had good points. Had her reign been longer, like that of her half-sister Elizabeth, Mary may have had the chance to prove that she could be just as great a queen as her younger sister.

[uniquelyanonymoslyme]

I love how mary fought back. Exactly what I would have done

[HistoryLover1550]

Michael Hirst should do a miniseries about this, that would be cool!

[DarlingNikki2]

Damn, could not imagine some thirteen year old spouting off at the mouth at a grown woman, even if he was a king! So, Mary played her trump card and had him in tears, more power to her!

[brassspitoon]

These comments are rife with Romanist historical revisionism. Where is the evidence that Jane Seymour was, unlike her two Protestant brothers (one of whom was the Protector and king in all but name for a short time) a devout Papist? She had Mary restored to court. Proves nothing. Did Jane hear mass? Where and which priest presided? Was she buried following a Catholic requiem mass? NO! Propaganda is not history. Where are your well respected historical sources, Catlicks?

[1972jewish]

& the imbecils believe!

[gmaureen]

All I can say is, thankfully, my ancestors were peasants. To be royal, as the saying goes, would be a "pain in the a.."

[omega70007]

Mary is going to Bully her lil brother with threats from her cousin to worship as she pleases???!!! But murdered protestants who wished to worship as they pleased??? Give me a f@cking break!!!! She's nothing but a hypocrite. Grown ass woman bullying a lil boy. Then she had the audacity to disrespect the king???

[MultiLolerz]

i was born in the same day and month as edward :D nice hehe

[swollower]

thank you for the excellent clip! Made me get my books out again.

[morfin51]

I just Love Mary, you have to understand where she came from, all of Henry's kids suffered a lot, Mary by her parents divorce and her catholic religion, then Elizabeth to be raised as the daughter of a whore must've been hard. Elizabeth and Edward were just english, but Mary was international, the Trastamara's where all over europe (as in the maternal last name of Mary) Spain, Portugal, Holy Roman Empire...she had many cousins, yet was so alone...

[Hattaru]

I do agree, some people are getting there facts on what the series "The Tudors" are doing but lets be honest, "The Tudors" is an entertaining show, yes some of what they do is in history but then they make up for it by adding there little entertainment to make the story of Henry and all of his ways intresting!, but there is one thing that is true, Henry was a horrible man, he did not care about his people or his courntry and it took Mary and Elizebeth years to make it stable again.

[Himaryous]

Can't we all get along? as Rodney King said. Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, Goddess-worshipping, we're still all human beings.

[TudorRose85]

I always feel bad for Mary and the hard life she had. A lot of the executions during her reign were done behind her back by her corrupted advisers who signed her name to the death warrents. I'm just stating the facts.

[JaponLights]

Mary was beautiful in these times ;D

[ligreekguy]

Indeed, she was. Time and circumstances were not good to her.

[HistoryLover1550]

@JaponLights I loved Sarah Bolger's portrayal of her!

[kendraMcgraw]

Mary burned about 500 to 600 people..

She was not a good queen!!

[Karenjadegirl]

Actually, it was less then 300, which was a pretty small number compared to the thousands who were killed in 'Bloody Henrys' reign. And if he had been a better husband and father, and if not for the Wyatt rebellions, perhaps things would have gone differently.

[TheMrGobble]

she was Queen for 5 years, he was King for nigh on 40..

Things would not of gone differently for Mary, she was not suitable to be Queen, as she put her heart before her country, and surrounded herself with bad advisors. She did not know what the English people needed in a Queen. Partly her fault, and partly the fault of her mother, who taught her obstinancy and stubborness.

[Karenjadegirl]

Mary *didn't* put her heart before her country. As well as loving Phillip, she saw the benefits of a Spanish alliance. Plus, she refused to execute Elizabeth and left her the throne when she could have left it to Mary Stewart.

If "Bloody Henry" and the "Concubine" hadn't robbed her of her mother (who was a wonderful and beloved Queen) her rights, and taught her to hate the Protestant faith through their actions, she might have had better guidance and been more tolorant and successful.

[evaperonfan]

If Mary had had her way, England would have been Spain's lapdog. Do you know how Spain viewed progress and women's rights? If Spain had its way, Europe and women's rights would be in the Dark Ages! I shudder to think where progress, Anglo Saxon society, and women would be if it weren't for Elizabeth!

[evaperonfan]

oh who thumbed me down for defending Elizabeth?

[Hattaru]

I do agree with you about Elizabeth, but Mary tried with all her heart to help her country and her people it is not her fault that her father really ruined the England for Anne, after Herny's death the damnge was already done! and it took years for Mary and Elizebeth to make there country better, Mary Liked Spain because they were the ones that treaded her nicesly, the reason why Elizebeth did not like Spain is because of her mother Anne, Anne did not like spain because they did not like her.

[evaperonfan]

@Karenjadegirl I agree, but that doesn't change th e fact that the Marian persecutions were WRONG.

[Karenjadegirl]

@evaperonfan Every ruler from the beginning has done things- personally and politically- that were wrong, even Elizabeth.

[LeN0Re18]

@evaperonfan and Elizabethan persecutions were not bad??........what about bloody henry????.............if it will reward the most bloodthirsty, henry would be in first place, secondly elizabeth, edward thirdly...........

[HistoryLover1550]

@kendraMcgraw Hard to believe the daughter of Katherine of Aragon could be that dark!

[kendraMcgraw]

@HistoryLover1550 Yes, she was awful, nothing like her mother. Elizabeth for other side was a great queen :D

[HistoryLover1550]

@kendraMcgraw Amen to that!

[PrincessKarrah]

@kendraMcgraw Mary problem is that she blamed the wrong people for her suffering she blamed Anne for her father divorce, for declaring her a bustard, and breaking with Rome the thing is it was JUST AS MUCH IF NOT MORE HER FATHER FAULT

[kendraMcgraw]

@PrincessKarrah Henry VIII was the cause of all problems, it's truth that he was manipulated for a lot of people but that's not a excuse for his acts, he was a awful person

[XXXBOBINXXX1]

I remember this same man being on some other Henry VIII videos, and he annoys the hell out of me i just dont know why. He just moves his head way too much when he speaks!

[RosalieHale101]

Are you serious? How the hell is a 13-year-old boy going to compete with his 34-year-old sister? Especially with the Holy Roman Emperor on your side, I mean, come on, man!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheMrGobble]

Holy emperor might have been on his side, but true religion in England won eventually. . Mary was gonna leg it from the country but stayed. She backed down.

[fleurgi]

true religion omg this is ridculous.how exactly is anglican the true religion? one can argue for catholicism bc it was the 1st church and was established under st,peter. but what can one asy of anglican faith besides the fact that it comes from a man who didn't get his own way. very valid...not

[TheMrGobble]

Do some research on Christianity, then you will get your answers. The Romans hijacked Christianity and gave the world Catholicism. You obviously know nothing about the REFORMation.

[ligreekguy]

@TheMrGobble

I beg to differ, sir, it was the Eastern Orthodox Church formed in 1054 that preserved the proper aspects of Christianity. Protestantism, born 500 years later, is a manufactured faith formed in the codpiece of Henry VIII and out of the personal ambition of Martin Luther. It is no less manufactured than Islam, another faith made up by a single man looking to feather his own political nest.

[TheMrGobble]

@ligreekguy Come back when you've studied the history of the Christian church, and not what someone has told you in a history book. Then we will talk. Bye now.

[ligreekguy]

@TheMrGobble

Really? A graduate degree from Harvard Divinity School, fluent in Greek and Latin, and I have not studied the history of the Church? Hmmmmmm.......................­....what are YOUR credentials, listening to religious discourse on Family Guy?

[TheMrGobble]

@ligreekguy Oh You're American. Say no more. Family guy is from YOUR neck of the woods, Shows what you have to offer. Now off you go.

[ligreekguy]

@TheMrGobble

Is this your only answer? If you indeed are British, this explains why you lost two wars to us.

[TheMrGobble]

Also stop getting your history lessons from the likes of 'the Tudors' . dramatised rubbish which hasn't stayed true to history. Also, get back to me when you have done your research on the history of England and religion. I have studied the reform and Christianity.

[fleurgi]

i actually have studied a bit about the church of england. i know all about the glorious revoltion and how england discrimated against catholic monarchs. i don't hate anglicans my father is anglican and my mom catholic. i just happened to be raised catholic. i'm just tired of how ppl always try to make catholcism out to be evil, when it had evil ppl in it. just like any organization, but that shouldn't define the whole or what the real message of it is. i have meant many who hate catholics

[fleurgi]

and i must say it seems to be blinding hate. bc i would never attack all these other christian groups like they attack catholicism. and also the history of catholicism says the church was started by St. Peter the 1st pope so how am i misinformed on that account when that is what i have been taught in religion classes i have taking through out schooling

[ligreekguy]

I agree, Fleurgi. I am Greek Orthodox, so I can be objective. Until recent years, Catholics could not be knighted, and services for Catholics buried in the Chapel of St. Peter ad Vincula at the Tower (executed persons) were not allowed to be said. Other forms of institutional discrimination have persisted, but take heart. Mass conversions to Catholicism have taken place in England, including extended royal family members. My church has also gained numerous Protestant converts. Justice lives.

[as2762]

well u can compete with her if u were raised up knowing for a fact that your father wanted to have a son and not your sister as an heir and you can compete with a woman if you are a king in absolute monarchy

Holy Roman Emperor was far away but 34-year-old sister was right there in front of him and since he was so young he wasnt able to see what a powerful connections his sister had until she actually forced him to c

[buffy21033]

fucking wierd

[macpduff]

What does a 13 yr old boy know about religion? he obviously was controlled. The dispute back then between Protestant and Catholic had more to do with politics than theology or personal conviction.

[Hippodameia]

I'd give you a cookie, but I don't have any. Maybe tomorrow... :)

[jellykellybelly]

@macpduff edward was raised protestant. and he, elizabeth and his stepmother often discussed and debated about religion. it was one of the only things he was actually very devoted to. of course the 'protectors' had their own agenda and oddly enough his mother was devoutly catholic. we have to keep in mind edward was a bookworm not a athlete so he knew alot about his faith

[randomstuff8991]

@macpduff basically both...some like mary was personal...through her mother and she was devout while others changed religion 2 whatever the king( or queen) was doing

[macpduff]

@randomstuff8991 Just like today.

[HistoryLover1550]

@macpduff His uncle Edward Seymour, the Lord Protectorate and a devout protestant was his guardian and the real power during Edward's minority.

[QueenBrendaSIV]

@macpduff Don't be ridiculous, at 13 a person know what is wrong and what is right. Ever since I had memory, I have hated the Roman Catholic church with all my soul, I remember when I was 3 yrs-old I hit a boy because he had just been baptized catholic. My parents were proud practicing evagelicals amongst a catholic sea, ever since a baby my mother taught me to stand up for my beliefs and to uphold the real faith, and I swear I will cause as much harm as I can to any/every catholic in my grasp.

[WickedMaureenJohnson]

Dude sometimes I think at least one of the kids had to think 'man my family is fucked up!!!' xD Don'tcha think?!

[Albukhshi]

I suspect Elizabeth I was the one who thought so-she had the longest time to think on it I guess *shrugs*

[gapeachjessica]

I would think that having one's life threatened multiple times by several people over many years would make *anyone* paranoid.

[Hippodameia]

Oh yeah.

[BoleynofAragon21]

I love this really helped me with my reaseach!!!

[Karkaroff26]

I personally thought that Henry's children had a messed up relationship between them but I enjoyed watching the video.

[Cofidre09]

Pity edward died when he was 15 =( he didn't have a chance to become a proper king

[heliotropezzz333]

He had a terrible death too. They gave him arsenic in a desperate bid to keep him alive.

[HondurasTLCLeftEye]

Mary Had a Hard life, No wonder she killed soo many people.

[100percentbabeLOL]

She killed 300 hundred in a short time during her reign where as, henry killed well over 500.000 and Elizebeth too but there reigns were longer.

[TheMrGobble]

100%percentbabeLOL

and what source did you get 'henry killed well over 500,000' from? exactly. There is no source saying that, only guesswork from authors.

[EvilAngelEyes]

HondurasTLCLeftEye, her father and sister elizabeth killed much more than she did.

[d1g1talv1rtu0s0]

what the hell are you talking about mary did become queen

[britneystars2]

I think Mary would have been a good queen, if it werent for the Catholic Church break. But Elizabeth was the best queen England has had though. Good vid!

[soccergirl97979]

its interesting that edward became a protestenant when his mother was a pious catholic

[astrofabio68]

becasue his uncle was a fanatic calvinist who wash his brain

[bripat22]

his mother died shortly after his birth and he was brought up with Protestant tutors-a great tragedy for England

[tony3918]

@soccergirl97979 well his mother died on his birth.. so who cares wat she was he didnt know her

[soccergirl97979]

@tony3918 yes but look at the pattern, Catherine of Aragon and Mary were both Roman Catholic, Anne Boleyn and Elizabeth were both Protestant and then you get to Jane and Edward. Jane an extremely pious Catholic who died 12 days after giving birth to a strong Protestant. it's also a bit of irony considering that she tried to bring Henry back to papacy.

[tony3918]

@soccergirl97979 No cause Mary was 18 when catherine died and during that time everyone was catholic... so when ann bolyen died elizbeth was already 3 and when she was livin with hernry.. catherine parr she was a protestant so she taught her according to wat her moma was... when it comes down to edward he didnt know his mom he learned in a time where catholics had to really hide in england and so he was raised by protestants.. the seymours and Sir dudley was very very loyal protestants..

[soccergirl97979]

@tony3918 i'm not going to waste my time with this; all i was saying was that it was interesting for such a strong catholic to give birth to a king who was a firm protestant even if he didnt know her. i already knew everything you have written, there is no need for rude remarks on a simple comment i made a year ago. i appreciate your insite on the matter but my comment still remains.

[tony3918]

@occergirl97979 i did not say anthing to u rude i just was tellin u wat i know i didnt 1 time say u dumb or something to tell u the truth u r being very rude if u didnt know...

[macpduff]

@soccergirl97979 No. Edward's mother was Henry's 3rd or 4th wife and she was not Roman Catholic.She also died shortly after Edward's birth so he was not raised by her.

[soccergirl97979]

@macpduff 3rd wife, yes she was in fact a catholic and your last statement is correct

[macpduff]

@soccergirl97979 How could the 3rd wife be Catholic when Henry had broken with the Church? Henry was still King and head of the Church of England.

Of course many Anglicans call themselves catholic,- just not Roman Catholic.

[soccergirl97979]

@macpduff its Henry VIII we're talkin about as long as she wasn't throwing her contradictory beliefs at him, he didnt care, he loved her and wanted her as the mother of his son. it does sound weird but he wasnt after her faith if you get what i'm saying. each of his wives had a different religion from her predeccesor when you look at them, Katherine of Aragon was Catholic, Anne, Protestant, Jane Catholic, Anne of Cleaves, Protestant, Katherine Howard Catholic, Katherine Parr Protestant

[macpduff]

@soccergirl97979 Interesting. So Henry was a pragmatist. Sounds like the religious wars in England started after his death.

[soccergirl97979]

@macpduff you got it, you had protestant edward, catholic mary and politique elizabeth

[astrofabio68]

Mary was a strong woman like her mother...

[SerasxAlucard]

He got ganked

[Kellyannk308]

That so true Christmas turn into family quarrel LOL!

I got this DVD I think David Starkey working on another documetnary on Monarchy

[lollzpopz22]

Wounded Edward!!!!

[dbocaz]

Excellent clip. Thanks!

[littlemisssunnydale]

Thank you!

[saintsistaz]

littlemisssunnydale, where did u get this video from?

[littlemisssunnydale]

The clip is from David Starkey's series on British monarchy. It is available on DVD.

[EvilAngelEyes]

littlemisssunnydale, what's the name of this series, I wanna look it up.

[Lionstar16]

Even in a royal family like the Tudors, there are the problems of ordinary families like sibling rivalry. Love Starkey's comment about Christmas being a time of family arguments, that is so true!

[eac1027]

What series is this from?

[littlemisssunnydale]

Its from the series 'Monarchy'.