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  • nice lookin' cowpoke.yumm.

  • If the horse will follow a cow as well, then I really like this.

  • This is really amazing because I saw western riders in Germany do that and hurt their horses bad in their mouth I saw one horse bleeding :( why can not every rider is that nice like this one. Sorry for my bad English

  • Ok maybe the horse has a four beat sometimes but it aint lazy !!Its just relaxed and concntrating on the riders commands!! The four beat doesnt disturb me much and that he is a little flat doesnt disturb me either!! You have to remember that the horse isnt wearing a bridle!! This is an example for dressage and jumping riders!! They Can learn lots from the westernriders!!! Many of them cant get theyre horses under controle even at the walk!!! Congratz to rider and horse here! They are a team!!

  • just like a craig johnson i know! :P

  • kind of a weird arena to do a reining pattern in.

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  • thts a pretty horse

  • that horse lopes a little wierd, his strides seem really short or something.

  • I don't know what you people are talking about- 4 beats..... Craig you look pretty awesome to me!!! Let's see your video riding brideless!!!!

  • i agree i cant stand 4 beaters as people might think is is good to sit to cauze they cant ride a fast horse it is not doing the horses joints any good cauze it is not breaking at the joints it is stiff legged

  • Just to clarify, the canter (or lope) is a three beat gait. And should always be shown as such, whether english or western.

    Usually four-beat canters are the result of the rider trying to artificially collect the horse, to the point where he has no impulsion.

    This horse is sometimes displaying a canter that is bordering on four beats. His level of impulsion seems fine but he has no "jump" to his canter. Some horses such as this one just seem to naturally have a very flat canter.

  • SCHWING!

  • You said it. Flat is the word. I see no collection. The horse has ample forward momentum, but no energy in the vault over the leading foreleg that completes the sequence of footfalls. That lack of energy combined with the lack of collection gives the performance a flat appearance. Lasse faire quality may arise from extra caution on part of rider AND horse due to absence of normal equipment and communication tools. It still makes for impressive display of skill, traning and communications.

  • TRUST ME, western riders do not want 4 beat-i show heavely on western pleasure and there is no way in hell i want a 4-beater, those horses,like someone said are unbalanced and uncollected and look horrrible to watch, and those horses end up with serious stifle and hock injuries when they are older-dont mean to sound rude

  • people want western horses to four-beat because it smoother and easier to sit.. or at least i think so.

  • What!? No, that is not correct. Horses that four-beat are unbalanced, uncollected, and have too little impulsion. Horses four-beat when the rider asks them to lope too slow and exaggerated. In order to do this the horse must bob it's head/neck to balance and exhibits a "four-beat" lope. This is the exact opposite of what western riders want.

    Get a clue and quit giving western riders a bad name.

  • I show-jump but I also am learning to rein. That is what I learned in 4-H... and some of my leaders are show people (western)

  • I would be looking for new instructors then. I can't believe they are actually teaching that in 4-H. I've attended multiple judging clinics sanctioned by 4-H as well as State Universities that would strongly disagree.

  • nobody wants their horse to four beat at the lope!!!! it is not correct in any sense and is very uncomfortable to sit. not to mention it looks absolutely horrid!!!

  • sorry I said that... calm down people... I just fiqured that out I am new to the western world... I am hunter/jumper but I just bought a reiner

  • If you're experiencing a four-beat sequence of footfalls in any gait other than a walk, there is a serious problem. Mother Nature dictates the sequence of footfalls in any given gait as an absolute, not an option. Deviations from the natural imply existing problems with health or unhealthy restriction of natural movement that will cause health problems. Get your engine checked.

  • they might think its a 4 beat b/c the horse has no hock. my horse is the same way

  • Wow!

  • Obvious major lack of publicity for the event, like so many things in Spain, judging by the few ´bums on seats´. How did you (reiningdiva) find out about the event? I live only a couple of hours away and knew nothing of this. Would have loved to have gone!

  • His ears are not 'pinned', they are turned in the riders direction exhibiting his attention TO Craig. The "J" formation you speak of means what? That his tail is long, relaxed and moving in the air? The horses gate is just that...a gate. All horses move different pending conformation. If it was indeed a four beat, he would be penalized in the pen for break of gate. Study your rule book eh.

    I'd LOOOVE to see you ney-sayers ride with no bridle. Post it so YOU can show us how it is done. pfffft

  • The horse was four-beating. Gross.

  • four beating? its not an english horse :P

  • Western horses can four-beat. It's disgusting to watch.

  • i never said they couldn't same goes for english horses prancing around :P

  • Maybe you should have clarified that.

  • clarified what? that reiners and jumpers are two completely different worlds and have their own styles of how they want there horses to move and perform in a show. :)

  • From my end it sounded as though we were saying that only english horses can four-beat. You DON'T want western horses to four-beat at all. From what I know about english horses is that you don't want them to four-beat either, even though english horses move out more and it's harder for them to start four-beating.

  • The horse's sequence of footfalls is dictated by nature, not by style of riding. For instance, compare execution of maneuvers between dressage and reining. They are remarkably similar in what is required of the horse. I see the primary differences as velocity, level of collection and precision of movement. The sequence of footfalls used to execute the maneuvers don't change. The task at hand dictates velocity, collection, precision, style, but nature compels the sequence to get there.

  • Ignorance is bless. No? I don't think so.

    Where in this video do you find the horse four-beating? I'm watching the video and he has enough impulsion even throughout the slow circles at the lope.

    If you think that is four-beating it's time for you to throw your stereotypes aside and re-educate your eye.

  • Count the beats.

  • I did, starting from the outside hind... following in unison the diagonal pair, then lastly the inside foreleg.

  • The horse appears to have adequate forward momentum, but is lacking energy in the vault over the leading foreleg, giving a flat appearance to performance.

  • craig johnson is definetly my favorite reiner, because he worked with pat parelli, hes really great with his horses, theyre all really gorgeous and talented, obviously

  • Actually, Craig Johnson's credentials speak for themselves and his reputation is nothing short of stellar. Your comments only indicate that your ego is threatened by others'successes.

  • hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha omg sorry but i just have to say westgapeachpi u just got disssssssssseeeeeddddddd

  • The horse looks a little lazy to me, not mad, no happy, just disinterested. Of course, if I were going to ride a demonstration without a bridle I would probably pick a lazy horse, too. LOL!

    OTOH, the horse might have a little more ambition given the normal and expected additional communication tool of a bridle.

  • @westgapeachpi  agreed.

  • Not quite as exciting as watching Stacy Westfall, but nice video. I would like to see what he can do with no neck strap or bridle.

  • It saddens me to see so many empty seats. . . Nevertheless, on a more positive note, that guy is a really good rider!

  • oops ... **smokin chic OLENA**

  • Craig Johnson is one of the most talented reiners out there! The horse he is riding, "Smokin Chic Oleana," (Flash) is also amazing!

  • CRAIG JOHNSON IS THE NUMBER ONE!!!!!

  • Guys he's a hell of a lot more talented than all of you. Yes and probably all your horses(to those who were critisozing)

  • I think this horse is a nice mover. I like the way he swings his hocks. Y'all aren't taking into account that he is wearing sliding plates!!! Craig is an awesome instructor. I attended one of his clinics and learned so much.

  • graig is good and his horse ,whow

  • you are not sane

  • brilliant

  • nice. my reiner and i are working on this

  • Oh no he isnt Im sorry I was thinking on someone else.Sorry.

  • I think that horse is lame or at least caring it back foot more. The horse look so bad at the canter. My personal opion is english is so much better, but western is ok.

  • ur right he does have a weird canter

  • Look at his back hooves he is making sure he does not put to much wait on them

  • This horse is a nice mover. If he didn't want to put any "wait" on his hind legs, he would not stop as hard as he does.

    Because he is riding bridleless, it is a lot harder to collect this horse, so the horse is simply getting strung out and pulling himself along with his forehand and allowing his hock to drift behind him.

  • ok, quit critiquing the guys horse. I mean, hey, come on I cant do that good WITH a bridle let alone with just a neckcollar! Besides I think that horse makes a fairly decent mount :P

  • Your right!!!!! thats true with any bridleless run....

  • Hi I don't thinkt he horse is lame but if you are used to the "English" canter you will fine he "Western" Lope looks alot different and your not the first person i've met who has mistaken it as lameness when they've only been used to english.

  • It was good but the horse needs to arch more in the canter.

  • Thought this was brilliant. I dont do any reining...but did talk to Craig Johnstone at 2005 Equitana in Melbourne..I do remember he told me that he did two dressage clinics a year with some Equitation master. I thought that a brilliant idea. I then walked over to another arena where Anky Van G was teaching and she told her students they should be over at the other arena watching the cowboys...so they could learn how to stop bridless! I think they provided me with food for thought.

  • awesome!!! im working on reining with my gelding, and hope someday i will reach this level!!but wow......that is awesome

  • unbelievable! awesome communication with his horse!

  • That is what I'm working on being able to do with my gelding. Along with cutting cows. And for the record every horse can be "taught" this stuff, its not about "teaching" them its sbout the communication, if those people got hurt its cause either they got worried and didnt get off or they really were trying to "show off" and shouldnt have been riding bridless anyway

  • This is aneat video, showing true communication between horse and rider. It is advanced, not where you start. I like it that Craig has stayed true to real horsemanship in a sport that sometimes strays from that mode. Way to go Craig. Keep up the good work.

  • I dont like the spinny thing

    It makes meh dizzy just lookin at it :[

    P.s. I ride english so i dont really pay attention to western sports.

  • its a spin. its actually a lot of fun. you should try it sometime. yes i get dizzy but only for a couple seconds and then im ready for round 2...lol

  • wowie wow wow!!! thanks for them awsome video

    my horse can only do that in his dreams lol or mine lol

  • Bridleless riding isn't something that you can just hop and do. That is how people get hurt. It takes years of training and work for those horses to get like this. They have to be trained extremely well with a bridle before you can go without.

  • ya it only to my horse a year and now we ride bridless lol not that good but shes getting there and she only 4 year old

  • Think twice about trying this with your horse. I know FOUR people in our community who rode bridleless on horses schooled in Parelli methods and were seriously injured when they lost control of their horses and fell. Two of them fractured their hips. One was paralyzed. Another was a kid who suffered a concussion this summer. Bridleless demos are more like "hey look at me, aren't I cool to ride without a bridle" instead of safe horsemanship or a responsible example to others.

  • but some people need to think twice about what kind of horse they have. not every horse is a bridleless horse and not to mention, becoming a bridleless horse takes several years, not a couple weeks or whatever that n/h stuff is. parelli thinks every horse can do this when in reality they cant. the clinicians, such as this man and stacy westfall stress how important it is to not just go off on your horse without a bridle, but first getting them to work off your legs.

  • In reality, both you and Parelli are right.

    Yes, every horse can go bridleless. But where people fall short is when they try it too soon.

    You must build a foundation first. I've ridden with Stacy Westfall and will be doing a clinic with Craig and it's very good how they stress the foundation.

    Craig got my friend who only rides Paso's spinning and riding bridleless. They're pretty amazing to watch.

  • im sorry but you also have to take into consideration the number of horses that dont have respect for people and are too crazy. and some people dont know anything about horses yet they own them, that really confuses me.

  • I agree. A lot of people get caught up in the idea of owning a horse, yet with that comes incredible responsibility.

    Respect can be earned with horses and horses with a "crazy" nature can be fixed. My gelding is a testament to that. He was the horse who broke my hand, foot, and sent my mom to the hospital needing 50 stitches in her forehead. I now gallop him bareback and bridleless through my pasture.

  • some horses cant be fixed though. some are just that way forever no matter how hard you try. those are the horses that whenever they think your guard is down they take advantage. i have seen a few horses like that. and other ones just dont respond to leg pressure the same way.

  • ya so does parelli he doesnt tell u to go off bridless he teaches u step by step not just goin bridless but everything else he shows its possble to teach any horse to ride bridless and anything else no parelli doesnt want u go bridless as soon as u want but to work up there .........some people think they can do it sooner and thats there fall

  • i think that also comes from me having the whole hoax feeling from parelli. he used to be a good trainer, back in the day but i think all his n/h stuff went to his head and now hes not really that good of a trainer. he just uses the tools for doing petty tricks.

  • no not realy he does those tirks 2 show people what NH can get u he teaches problem horses 2 getting there trust and working up

  • i'm just not a believer in n/h stuff or petty tricks. he teaches you to give your horse a treat when ever it does the littlest thing, real training involves no treats but praise.

  • i trian parelli and i dont give my horses 4 every little thing a bearly give horse any at all she gets other rewords and parelli isnt just about riding bridless or do tricks its to bild ur confidents and to be a leader to ur hores

  • yea im sorry but you wont change my mind. i really dont think parelli is any kind of a trainer anymore.

  • well thats ur problem i was just tellin u the truth

  • nope i dont have a problem just because i dont believe in all of that n/h and petty tricks. my horses perform fine and listen to me great, but let me tell you, its gonna take alot more than little n/h tricks to train horses to the level the ones i ride/own are at.

  • the little triks r just fun cutie stuff that builds ur bond and trust whith ur horse i have fun on my horses i dont have to have a high level horse to look good and have fun i do a bite of everthing it shows what my horse is good at and what she needs 2 improve

  • i dont need a high level horse to have fun either but i still have fun. i dont even ride at that high of a level but that n/h stuff is for people who trail ride and their biggest event of the year is an itty bitty open show. and i have a good trust with my horse without petty tricks, she respects me.

  • i ride them and show them whats right and whats not, but when they do something wrong we keep trying and dont get flustered, a horse will appreciate that and how you can beat his tests if he gives you any.

  • It's not something you just jump into or that you do with just any horse. I've had horses I could jump on without bridle or saddle and ride off into the sunset. And I've had horses I wouldn't trust any further than I could throw them after having them and riding them for years, and certainly not without something wrapped around their head. Part of safe horsemanship is common sense. In fact, some people call it horse sense.

  • Very neat. Thank you for posting, its always good to see clear videos this interesting. Kudos.

  • The horse looks like he's having just as much fun as the rider!

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