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  • I think that kyokushin's katas are ugly to see =//

  • 体操か?

  • i would say in a characteristic Kata is for more to self precision and internal healing power for centering you're self to you're own characteristic Kata and balancing you're self toward life and goals great exercise

  • kenji midori does much better

  • Matsui unnecessarily changed the kata, who created the Mas Oyama. According to me a form which retains Arneil is most appropriate and reflects the original. Even Oyama signed under the book, which he created Arneil. Matsui and the rest some of the masters want to show what kind they are not good and they changed kata. I don't like "new"=worse katas.

  • i am amazed by his balance.... he is always steady through the whole routine....amazing....

  • This is the third dan black belt kata from kyokushin and is my favourite kata

  • someone may post the bunkai of this kata?

  • Superb

  • miss the old honbu,,,days.....all the sensei n sosai

  • @wei461101 Yes! Me too. It was verry beautiful days.

  • @joopsnoop from your vid at 2;;01 standing at the right hand side of sosai is me...training in the honbu in 1984...1985 saturday special class.

  • @wei461101 How long were you uchi deshi for? That is cool. Do you Shihan Quinn in Australia. He was uchi deshi for a few months then too. Also Wasn't Kancho Matsui there then too?

  • Fun video. I like how you can hear everything -- his footwork, the snap of his gi. Seems like he holds his breath a lot; is that so?

    People don't realize it's harder to do something with precision and technique than it is to do something fast. This was really good.

  • @2TonTongue

    I see we share two interests .

    well i dont think he holds his breath , its just an expression i guess .

    and whatever he does I'll take to be the right thing to do , you should see his him in kumite , firs video in the related videos.

  • @ahmednabil actually he is holding his breath but only for the execution of the techniques..many great masters believe that you can generate more power by retaining the breath in the tandem when executing a technique. the exhale comes after. its like holding your breath to lift something heavy..more power!! breathing through the teeth or exhaling during a technique is not the only way..

  • @Torontokoshiki i have actually seen most japanese masters do that , and heard one also talking about compressing the breath into the tanden on the execution , im sure they dont put any pressure outside the tanden , whi is very hard to do , when i try to do it i feel the blood pressure in my head and the IOP increase , not a good thing .

  • @ahmednabil indeed lol..

  • money and power corrupts ..stay humble, train hard..your body and mind..osu

  • wow :D

  • Great!!!

  • this is long it must had being a pain learning it

  • wow that is a very long kata. 50 moves. impressive is what i say. =)

  • I Train Enshin, Osu!!!

  • I like his version ,  variations Kancho has made. Respect and my humble bow .Osu!

  • he got fukin perfect tools wow

  • great but very long and complicated

  • Very intresting. I'm just about to learn sushiho and we (IFK) do several passages quite different. I'm wondering if there was something lost or forgotten by Hanshi Steve Arneil or if it's simply another interpretation.

  • ofcourse he wouldnt forget that , because he must see it all the time , be reasonasble.

    but the european masters always change the japanse katas and exaggerate the movement and tense the body , which is in noway as good as the original. osu

  • This version isn't the original.

    Sosai didn't do it that way. Little differences.

    I remember that Kancho Matsushima is still doing it the "original" way...

    IKO Matsui has made a lot of changes from the original katas and syllabus

  • So did Matsushima. He is not connected at all to Sosai's karate now. Matsushima even added new kata!! That is not doing the original way.

  • @joopsnoop To say that any branch of Kyokushin is no longer connected to Sosai is insulting to those who train in them. And it is only natural that after a time there would be new katas. To deny anything other than what Sosai presented is to trap yourself from evolving or thinking outside the box. I don't think Sosai wanted his karate split, but he would have wanted his karateka to explore beyond what he offered, seeing as he's not around to invent anything else. Respect. Osu.

  • @H0useMouse No insult intended but if you take as an insult, why? Members of Matsushima have lots of ways to find out there organization is not part of Sosai or the Honbu. They just self-made and have no justification for exist. I read on forum where Matsushima lied verry big time to Honbu and make promises then backed down. It is not to do with the members of the branchs becoz sometime they know nothing, But instructors have duty to know truth about where they send there money too.

  • @joopsnoop I can't speak for other karateka, but personally, I am part of the younger generation that accepts all branches of Kyokushin without the division of power the old Shihans still possess, and we hope one day younger leaders will unite Kyokushin again and incorporate everything into one unification. Those who practice Kyokushin with heart and honor, and who respect Sosai is Kyokushin, regardless of branch leader. Osu.

  • @H0useMouse Okay. Verry nice comment. I like what you said alot. Please work hard to make that reality. Remember to practice the Kyokushin with heart and honor means honesty too and when so many groups steal everything from the Sosai's familia it is not honorable.

  • @joopsnoop Well Sosai based Kyokushin on other MA's he learned and made it his own. I don't know of any kyokushin branch claiming they have invented a new MA, so all they're doing is deviating from the "central line." We forget that a new karateka has no idea of Kyokushin's political mess unless they've done research before joining a dojo. Dedicated Kohai and Sempais go to the dojo to train, not debate politics, so we have a limited say in what transpires in Kyokushin worldwide. We're stuck :/

  • @H0useMouse Exactly. The 'deviations' not original, not necessary, or they are not helpful. No need to change these things. Deviations just for sake of it, just so they say they are different and avoid being responsible. Like you say, new members don't know difference. There stuck. Best to do is train and try to connect with Sosai's Honbu dojo in time. The sempais are the ones who don't pass truth on. I like your words. Ossu!

  • Matsui was technical genius. So sad he turned out to hate doing karate so much.

  • wt happened?

  • Well, he said himself he no longer likes doing karate and for him IKO is just way to make money for his business. He leaves karate up to Gorai now.

  • Gorai?

  • His buddy in NYC who kinda runs the karate side of things now

  • Wow...

    I've admired him,for what he achived during those long years.

    For me this is really disappointing... :(

  • Keep admiring what he DID. Just know that he is a different man now that he has a taste for money and power.

  • what did he do?

  • Sold his loyalty to Sosai and Kyokushin for money. For him the karate organization is just a way to make money. I predict he will leave karate alltogether within 10 years and pass the organization to someone else. NOW he just takes money and takes money.

  • lol, i also practive hapkido. its nowhere as powerful and usefull as kyokushin. but my master drives a bmw and deosnt even teach. just keeps talkin to poeple and he charges ALOT. He has alot of skills but all his students left him suz of his arrogance. im thinking of leaving him to. SAME PROBLEM. so ashihara or seidokan better?

  • I love his speed when performing this form. for some reason people think you need to try and go unreasonably fast, but this looks strong and functional

  • Awesome ! He is a GREAT sensei , one of true ones.  Round but powerfull technique. Has motivated me to train this pecial kata well. OSU.

  • Osu !

  • Wow I think he did just perfect!!!

    Greetings from Germany (Sensei Fischer)

    OSU

  • I'm glad you gave your feedback sensei.

    OSU!

  • I think you understood wrong I'm the student of Sensei Fischer but he would say the same thing so thank you!! :D

    OSU!

  • u suck more than he does... so sad...

  • no way.

  • how about you do this kata and post the video .. fair deal !

  • perfect...as always when Matsui is involved.

  • holy crap.. that's Mas Oyama's voice, isn't it!?

  • Excellent instructional kata video by the master himself (Not a competitive version). How some people have the audacity to criticize such a man is beyond me. Maybe they should look at his list of achievements.

    OSU

  • OSUU!

  • I don't like you...

  • OSU

    Kata is an aspect of techniques . to be performed like being in a fight ,as far as i know .

    i mean , you think that Shokei Matsui would be Kancho if his perfomance was lacking ? neh .. i dont think so ..

    respects to all .

    OSU!

  • Gunpreist, what style of karate do you practice? The styles where a kata is judged by how pretty it is and how fast/snappy the blocks are do it only for show. When you fight, even if you use the techniques from a kata, they will never be as pretty as in the form. So instead the form is being practiced with more practical realistic movements rather than "practice it pretty and hope for the best" K-Matsui may not have the pretty katas you enjoy, but he has practical application and movment instead

  • we used to do that all the time lol

  • Kancho (sorry sensei) used to be my karate instructor in middle school, my dean got him to come teach karate at school but there were only like 5 kids in the class lol so i got to know him personally

  • you mean kancho matsui ? interesting .

  • Beautiful.....

  • WOW

    dis is an awesome kata!

    OSU!

  • and it's not me who makes rules for tournaments and the judges would give him the last place judging by this performance

  • u dont get it do u ? even the greatest man can be creticised by some people ,for anyone to think that he can do any better than k. matsui , he must be out of his mind . he knows better than the judges , this man is called the expert of the experts , anyway take alook at the other comments , u might get a feeling that u are wrong , and u know nothing.

  • Your crazy! I would love to see you walk up to Kancho and tell him your thoughts! Im sure you will find out just how strong his tsuki is

  • i really dont believe how can he criticise this man , gunpriest , its not u who makes the rules not u ,not me. its the man in this video , he is the one who puts rules.

  • OSU!

  • ok . so u think he should tense up to be a good kata performer ......... no comment!

  • the techniques look neither fast nor tensed up, so what is there left to say, if he isn't tensed but fast well ok at least something but this way there is like uhm nothing?

  • I agree with GunPriest. This kata is good at the form, but it lacks speed, tension, snapping, etc... etc... Anyway, he is not criticising Matsui, he is criticising the performance of the kata he did.

  • whats the name of the kata

  • sushiho

  • Amazing i get why sosai oyama made him the new boss.

    Osu!

  • yes , he had chosen the right one. still, he is not the boss of all the kyokushin in the current time ,unfortunately.

    osu!

  • I thought oyama made him the new head of the kyokushin ehmmm for lack of a better word club xD.

    Osu!

  • he was the head of kyokushin untill some egotistical shihans sewed him , and split up kyokushin.

  • well thats pretty lame cause he rocks

  • he is the best , but thats the way it is

  • Osssu!

    great.... like swiss clock

  • OSU!

    verry hard and beautifull !!!

    arigato !

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