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  • @MrGilles1990 well said, we need to take our democracy back from this parasitic infestation, it is devolving the right of Self Government in every European country and even now seeks individual tax raising powers. We need to bring this parliament down before it does us!

    This is not a democratic institution, it is an institution for Big business, finance and politicians, as for the people, it does not give a damn who it hurts as long as Individual Governments bend to its will!

  • The EU is an undemocratic, authoritarian state that nobody voted for!

    Peoples of Europe to arms, defend your fatherland against the Stalinist's and Hitlerist's who make our lives hell on your money!

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  • @carlostrick that has been wrong for the past 200yrs

  • Europe is the past not future if we do nothing to stop this crazy politicians.

  • what the hell is estland ? :D - estonia ?

  • @dav4ix yes it is m8 :) its Dutch for Estonia

  • Don't be a moron Thrawn no one wants a dictatorship. What we need is a national ruled as one and yes that means the uk as well. We need less bureaucracy so perhaps getting rid of the polticians would work but the people wust have the power after all its all our world.

  • FUCK EU.

  • LOVE EUROPE HATE EU! oh right you stupid cunts cant tell the difference

  • In 20 yrs or less Europe will be run by Muslims

    the London times said the most popular name for a boy born in Britain is now Mohammad ..this is scary

  • yeah sure :)

  • it s scary & sad :´(

  • it will never happen

  • ...what? There are only 1 (or 2) million muslims in Britain, the other 60+ million in the country aren't, so how could the most popular name be "Mohammad"?

  • Mohammad is the most common anme in the world not the UK.

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  • FUCK EU FROM ALBANIA.

  • Cause not every singel family call their first son "Charles" ? But allmost every singel muslim family call their firstborn son Muhammad...

  • @JinRenegade It's because in the muslim community it is common to name the first son Mohammad, so it is through that loopole of sorts why.

  • Bye bye Britain! See you outside the EU. Is going be funny to see the British products pay a huge customs  taxes after the UK leaves the EU!

  • Britain isn't going to leave the EU because of that reason. It would have a tremendous impact on our economy. Although, if we did leave the EU which we won't, we would join it again because people would then realise how much the EU benefited them when the economy goes to hell due to custom taxes.

  • It would be very sad (for me at least) if Britain leaves the EU...:The British Eurocepticism is a stupid think. Britain always had a huge influence in Europe, in the past as today. We can not understand Europe an his History without the influence of Britain... you fought two World Wars in Europe. The idea that Britain has nothing to do with Europe is false, and ridiculous. Hope someone put some intelligence in the minds of UK euroceptics... :-)

  • I'm British and I completely agree with you.

    We will get more involved over time.

  • Dunno if Europe really need British politics any longer... We really don't need any secret agents and any dubble 0 and 7 around our boarders... We don't need Bureaucracy and more complicated forms... We need to be ruled by one singel voice... One man who controll the whole country... Democracy must end, and total Dictatorship or absolute Monarchy... A leader can't learn and deal with all problems in a two years work... He needs a lifetime to become a good leader...

  • Are you serious?

  • Of course...What has democrasy given us? Less war? more lives saved?

    No... It's given us choises... And Everyone is doing in different roads... And many lives that coud have been saved is instead taken...

    The world shoud be united under one singel voice... And I might not be speaking about a human...

  • going in different roads*

  • Europeans:

    Why so much fussy reaction against unification ?

    *

    Many non europeans envy you and your EU.

    *

    Besides, The Swiss Republic, even if not an EU country, is however a great utopian but real example of a multi-national, plural, non homogenous economical regions unionized, multi-language, multi-religious almost perfect democracy with beautiful institutions and prosperous for centuries.

  • the eu wants to bring 57 million talking monkeys from africa to Europe

    the eu lets arabs overrun our continent

    the eu invites EVERYONE and whenever we speak up we are beaten down with one word:

    NAZI/FASCIST/RACIST

    im a racist, fuck multicult

    why should we let everyone come to our countries when we would get shot in africa and asia for being white???

    fuck the left wing liberal humanitarian policy of the eu and fuck the eu

  • @bzzbt Wow, the guys who shoot white people in Africa and the Middle East have a lot in common with you, buddy.

  • @bzzbt europe is only for cristians

  • @alinro1000 looooooooooool!!! shut up troll, europeans don't even care for silly christians looooooooooool :D:D:D:D:D

    Yeah, go Atheism! Atheism on the rise! Can't stop us! Atheism for all!

  • @bzzbt a smart man said "if u whant to be democratic u will have to fight till the last drop of blood for ppl that opose and disagree with u"

  • more power the the EU!!!!

  • The right to strike..but not really.

    If the strike restricts the movement of capital.goods,persons & service ( the whole point of strike action ! ) then it is against the law.

    European Court of Justice rulings : C-438/05 & C-341/05.

    The right to votebut not really.

    The EU parliament has no powers of legislation !

    The right to life ..but not really.

    Footnote (a) Article 2(2) of the ECHR:

    live ammo legal c) in action lawfully taken for the purpose of quelling a riot or insurrection.

  • The future of Europe will be Islamic......unless the Catholic Church should rise again.

    Look to the Church for your identity and don't let the EU greasy politicians sell the ground from under your feet!!

  • Irony... EU's primary party are Majority Christian Democats. They apply other peoples imaginary rules to the Ruling of every details of our lives. The future of Europe will be Islamic, and the Christians will let it happen, in the belief that they are the ones in control of the Islamisation.

  • If the population is only nominally Christian then any Christian political party will reflect this and be only nominally Christian themselves.

    Yes, Europe could well be Islamised, but don't count your chickens before they've hatched! Anything could happen! This could be the catalyst to spark off the might of Catholicism again. Here's hoping - and praying!!

  • What? The population of Europes position does not matter. The majority of Europe doesn't want tighter integration (hence 3 no votes and the rest being refused the same ability) but it happens, because we are in a group dictatorship (Oligarchy) with an Elected President with arbitary powers to control others opinions. The last thing I want is Catholic rule... but I assure you I don't worry about that because it doesn't happen and they think they are playing the Muslims.

  • Yes, there is no need for you to worry about Cahtolic rule. It will only be for Catholics in a Catholic State anyhow.

    But what of the rest of Europe? It could be Islamisation. I don't see how any secular society can defeat Islam. It may be a gradual, sliding into Sharia Law over the next 50-80 years or so!

  • Well, a truly secular society could defeat it easily, by being Secular. The problem is Religious leaders, thinking all Religion deserves respect, because they want it for their own. Sadly, it is true, we already have active Sharia courts here...

  • Secularism is a belief system too, though a fragile one. It will easily fall prey to Islam. It is full of daydreams!

  • No it's not... Firstly, religious people can (and should be) secularists, it's not atheists only, secondly, there isn't a single belief that must be shared by Secularists to be secularists, so it's not a belief system. It's definetly not fragile, Secularism has been the singular force of progress in History, and without it, Religion would have retarded all development, as it attempts to do now, in the form of Islam. I don't know what is full of day dreams, because Secularism isn't a "thing"...

  • I don't want to be a secularist, thank you. I find it repulsive and stupid. Secularists stole the West from Christianity, with false and seductive promises. Now Islam will steal it from you!

  • What false and seductive promises? You mean promises like the fight for science which has brought you the technology you used to make that comment? The end of Holy War? The promise of a world with developing moral standards that have ended Genocide, Racism, Sexism and Child Rape, in spite of Religion? The promise of a World where people are free to believe what they like, without anybodys doctrine legalising their persecution? Yeah... secularism sound horrible!

  • The false promises were those of abortion, contraception, divorce, fornication among others. These are now leading to the demographic death and decay of Western Societies. And in such a short time too!

    Just because you believe what you 'like', doesn't mean these 'nice' beliefs are true or good or even practical. You must be careful over what you believe. (There is no such thing as a 'developing' moral standard)

  • Those weren't false promises... all of those things are free to choose in secular society. Abortion, contraception, divorce, fornification are all at the individuals hands, if they so choose, without the law prosecuting them. Also, there is much development in moral standards. 200 years ago, racial segration, torture and many other things we today feel strongly against were not only acceptable, but legally enforced!

  • Yes, and they do choose them - to the detriment of their secular society!

    As they say, you make your choices and you pay the price! The price will be very high.

  • So you have a problem with people not being subservient to an imaginary dictator in the sky and his chosen people upon earth forcing individuals to think there way? Also, abortion, contraception, divorce and fornification are not the biggest problems in secular society at this time, and the Catholic church supports those things that are. You don't want people to make choices or have freedom of discussion, so stop pretending you understand discussion...

  • Secular people can and do do what they like. They have all their wishes come true. But as we are now seeing, they will pay for it!

    And I disagree. Abortion, contraception, divorce fornication are highly important and represent society at its most basic level - and most important. These attack the foundations of a society from within. Only fools could dismiss their importance. Probably for self-serving and impure motives!

  • Now you're getting all religiously fanatical so Im not sure how much longer seemingly rational discussion can take place. There is no purity in people, the term means nothing, and you're not contradicting your own stance on societies and sins. We are all secular people, and we can't do what we like, but we can discuss what we like, and devlop a legal framework that reflects our own moral standards, as opposed to the violent ones advocated by the Bronze Age and Roman writers of the Bible. :)

  • If you say there can be no purity in people, then you and I have a completely different outlook on humanity and life.

    That is why I would like a Catholic State, where the principles and moral standards in which I believe are the framework. Your secular society belongs to you. Good luck with it. To me it's sinking and I want off!

  • Indeed I do, I don't make up concepts without reasoning or evidence. The word purity means nothing in relation to humanity and life. You believe in slavery? Genocide? Dictatorial rule? Persecution of others? Well then, I wish you look in your theocratic nation, I hope one day to be at War to end such Tyranny.

  • EU ain't gonna last long now!! All you EU Nationalist buggers, enjoy the EU while you can.

    Euro=Failure.

    Here is a question for EU nationalists,

    When the EU is gone, do you think you would become a nationalist of your 'old' country?

  • wrong

    you = total failure

  • HA!

  • get over it :)

  • When you made your list of 'sins', I notice they are social sins ie they don't really pertain to each individual but are attributed to whole societies in a vague kind of way.

    But Catholicism knows that sins and transgrssions are personal and belong to each individual and not impersonal belonging to whole societies!

  • Actually I intentionally formed a mixture, some social, some legal, individuals and societies, all would still be the same if not for secularism forcing religion to give up it's faith in them. I don't care what Catholicism shows.. it supported all of these things, and apart from Mormonism, was the last Church to give up Racial Discrimination. It also still protects it's priests from prosecution for Child Abuse and refuses to accept lesbians.. these are global church decisions, not individual.

  • There is no such thing as a social sin. Society cannot sin. Individuals do.

    Christianity built the West not Secularism. It can only leech off what Christians have created. And then destroy it of course.

    And like me, the Church refuses to endorse lesbianism among other activities - but always loves the sinner. Same for me!

  • i didn't use the term sin... I interpreted your quoting of sin to show you had the intelligence to realise that religious wrongs have nothing todo with morals. I also never said that society sinned, I said that things considered imoral today were once accepted and legalised by society and continue to be accepted by churches. Christianity took its first principles from the non-christian and hasnt developed sicne then, it hasnt built anything, and without secular society, the west would be dead.

  • But still you made a list of what you consider misdeamenours. Or sins.

    Christianity affirmed whatever was true in all societies. Christ gave them His Divine seal of approval and then added the purest and highest of all principles! Secularism is self-serving, politically motivated poison in comparison.

  • No, I made a list of what people on whole consider to immoral actions. They have nothing to do with the legal concept you mention, or religion. Yes! Correct! Christianity is completely unchanged, until secular society improves and then a few decades of fighting later the Catholic Church affirms what is already accepted by the rest of society so as to not appear backward. This is why they were last to denounce slavery, and why they still lie about condoms! Secularism is the people in comparison!

  • Un-democratic madness !

    The Lisbon Treaty (Article 33,paragraph 6) allows the EU executive (WITHOUT CONSULTATION) the right to change or declare null & void ALL rules;regulations;laws present in existing treaties relating to the ECONOMY ;TAX ;CIVIL SOCIETY ;environment etc.

    « Sorry,this is a dictatorial constitution » (Prof. Schachttschneider, University of Erlangen-Nürnberg).

    Vote for true DEMOCRACY in this summers European elections & save FREEDOM in Europe !

  • The EU Constitution is feudalism. The Dark Ages will return unless you reject it! Cheap immigrant labor will keeeeeeeeeeep Europeans down. Reject the EU Constitution!

  • Long live the EU!

  • Unity under a European flag, with one faith called Christianity, to create a heaven on Earth, i say Hail to all our Germanic brothers and sisters around the world!

  • Lol, religion need to die, not rise.

  • Soviet Union is a disease!

  • Fuck EU..second Sovjet Union !

    Europe of free Fahterlands!

  • I do hope this is the right place to thank the people of Ireland for the wisdom of their NO VOTE on behalf of the gagged 500,000,000 peoples under the jack boot of the undemocratic & corrupt self serving centralised unaccountable self styled & self congratulatory arrogant & shameless politicians & their parasites in Brussels.

    Every time the peoples have a vote THEY VOTE NO - the EU has no legitimate mandate & is a criminal organisation functioning without legitimate accounts on stolen money.

  • Totally right, they'll just keep rewriting their 'constitution'. Im sure they will just come up with a law just to get around pesky things like democracy. I bet Hitler wished he'd of done it this way.

  • the U.N. makes a show of opposing the death penalty. Behind the scenes: read the fine print in the Lisbon Cons Treaty the E.U. has enabled them to use the death penalty in 'war, riots and upheaval'. They have opposed the death penalty as a punishment for obscene crimes such as serial murder, they are legalising it for citizens who oppose the EU/NWO. Why 'riots and upheaval'? Are they expecting opposition from large sectors of the people of the community. Makes you wonder what kontrols they plan.

  • if the europeans want to be islamic.... so no xD.

  • DUde, the majority is too smart for religion, Islam and Christianity smells too much.

  • The Scum

  • ¿? wot

  • irish tinker using scum caravan shit the beds...

  • EU is mainly OK but it has too many regulations. If I were the boss, I would cut down the number of bureaucrats ten times, do we really need, fellow europeans, thousands of UE institutions? We all know that it doesn't helps, EU isn't really counting in the world too much nowdays.

  • Vive l'Union européenne !

  • welcome to slaverey eussr

  • The rest of europe can blow me!

  • welcome to the EUSSR you are no longer a country you are area 7897 northern province 45, if you make a pro nationalistic speech or anti EU speach under the constitution 923424 you will be imprisoned....you think im joking...i wish i was.

  • welcome to the EUSSR you are no longer a country you are area 7897 northern province 45, if you make a pro bulgaria speech or anti EU speach under the constitution 923424 you will be imprisoned....you think im joking...i wish i was.

  • Go fuck your self twat.

  • scared of progress

  • Isn't it amazing how the Irish are so Pro-European, I mean didnt you fight against control from london once upon a time? So why are you giving your power to europe now? Whats the difference?

  • we had no freedom, we were exploited and treated as second (if not third-class) people, out men were killed, imprisoned without cause. the eu offers ireland a better future

  • yeah, is that why the IRA have said they will resist the EU? I thought they was fighting for a free ireland? Not one ruled by brussels or any forgnei lands? I think only 10% of irish people want the EU and their euro funny money. I hear stories of hate towards the eu from irishmen, I guess your a new type of irishman like some brits, its all about a future superstate than is the biggest empire in the world, Pathetic.

  • I live in ireland dude, and everybody likes the EU here... How couldn't they? Irish people now have the most powerful economy of the continent, and everything has been financed by the Union (transports in perticular)

  • that's because they get every thing payed for them the arent going to be pissed off you nob

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