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Point me to the provision that specifically says "We will take over healthcare" in the House and Senate bills. No, I don't want hypotheticals or claims that "what Democrats REALLY want is single-payer and this is just a means to that end." That's not the issue here. You're claiming something that doesn't appear to be true. Is there not one conservative interest group opposing the public option that's HONEST? Do you guys just share these same bs talking points with each other daily?

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Overall, Grover Norquist is just a typical Republican, isn't he? Conservative and whatnot? You'd think a guy as concerned about lowering taxes and spending would at least be moderately libertarian, like me, but I'm afraid not. Does Grover ACTUALLY care about silly things like gay marriage?