Well that doesn't prove anything, although it's interesting. The idea that the ending is real can't be proven by the use of older actors and small changes in clothing. If the film maker definitely wanted the audience to believe it was real then they would've filmed the totem falling over, instead of cutting the scene just before it seems like it's going to fall over. He did take over Mal's totem which is why Ariadne wasn't allowed to touch it.
In the ending credits, it shows the names of the younger children and then the names of the older children meaning that the children aged. Obviously Leonardo's character saw his children a few years later so this means that the ending of Inception is real. It's not a dream.
It is real and here is the proof. In the credits there are 2 actors credited for each child. There is a Phillipa age 3 and a Phillipa age 5, there is also a James at 20 months old and one at 3 years old...there is the answer---from Chris Nolan who wrote the movie and casted 2 different actors for each child....boom!
i think that cobb mind perceive what is reality and what is fake as one single dimension. that probably why the spin top wobbles but didnt stop spinning.
I suspected that ending from the scene in the first act, where he dropped the top on the bathroom floor and never got the chance to spin it right after the second trial with the architect, then we don't see him spin it again until the end of the movie.
The top became his totem after Mal died, since she was the only one that knew the weight and feel of it.
Never, not even once, did he call for the kids during the film. It was Cane that called them in the end.
Also, in a dream state, he's always wearing the ring because in his mind, he is still married. But in reality, he doesn't have a ring on because he knows his wife is dead. Watch the part where he gives his passport to the security when they arrive in US. You can tell if he is wearing a ring or not.
lol whether or not it topples or not doesn't even mean anything. he's the only character who knows exactly how it wobbles/how long it spins for, so it would eventually topple in real life or a dream.. duh?
@CruZSourCreamZ He's not in limbo, that much is obvious from the definition of limbo given earlier in the film. Also, the camera cuts away while the top is still spinning, so we don't know if it stops or not.
He woke up not plugged in? So what? Maybe someone else unplugged him.
@Matthewkilb HAhahaha heres my real explanation i was just joking XD HAHA
ok the top isnt really de caprio's real totem its his wife's totem . De Caprio's totem is hes children cuz in the dream when he calls his children they run away.
excellent pickup. Also long shadows like a sunset or sunrise in the first scene, and different time of the day in the second scene, possible noon? Only thing this proves is that the scenes are different.... but real? What's real man?
the top isnt his totem.. it was mals, the wedding ring is his totem, whenever he's asleep he's wearing the wedding ring and thats why mal is always there. whenever he dreams he has his wedding ring on, at the end of the movie he isnt wearing it
There is no right answer...Plus what you thought was a dream could have been reality. I strongly recommend watching other Christopher Nolan films, they are all amazing and mind blowing like this!
no, the ending is not entirely what he wants. because the only memory he had of his kids was them running away. in this scene they actually turn and look, without the memory of thier faces he couldnt have made his dream to show his kids faces. thus (as the thing was getting very unstable and had a chance to fall) the scnee is probebly real.
@menyyearsago Are you seriously telling me he wouldn't have been able to remember his kid's faces and construct a dream with them in? Also, if he was unable to see their faces in his dream, why does he turn away and prevent himself looking when they start to turn towards him during his return to limbo to confront Mal and rescue Saito? The point is not that he can't remember their faces, but that he stops himself putting them in his dream, because part of him knows..
@menyyearsago ...that he has to maintain some kind of separation between reality and dreams. He has already been unable to resist projecting his dead wife into his dreams, but deep down he knows that this is just a projection and not her (as he says when he confronts her). To do the same thing with his children (who he knows are still alive) is one thing he won't allow himself to do. His children are the one thing that connects him to reality.
Go back watch the movie and take note of this. He said to Ariadne that in his dreams Mal and him are married still. In every scene that he is dreaming he has a wedding ring on, when he is awake it's gone. That totem is Mals totem not his, his totem is the ring. The writers incepted your mind to make you believe that Mals totem was his. An idea is like a virus, resilient, highly contagious. The smallest seed of an idea can grow.
@killerhunter62 Well, no. An imaginary ring that is only present in a a dream does not fit the description of a totem, as defined in the film. A totem must be a actual object with unique physical qualities that only the possessor will recognize.
The reason he is wearing a ring in his dreams is simply that they are still married in his dreams.
I don't understand why people keep saying that having another person touch your totem stops it from working. Not true.
@killerhunter62 yea is was Mals totem, but the point of a totem is to have something only you know the true feeling of, and since Mal is dead he is the only one who knows it so it works.
I am such a dream state all of the time that i can incorporate anything to seem life like to make it seem real without realizing it! If he wanted to see his kids that way in a sub-conscience, he will see them diff to make it more appealing to him to make him think its real! In the dream world anything is possible! its how loved ones who have passed on survive in our thoughts. I dream in both black 7 white along with color as well. Si i can understand this movie quite well. Logic is not important
I realized it was real when he told the girl while they were in the elevator that in his memories, he never got to see his children's faces and that if he ever wanted to see them again, he'd have to go home in reality to do it. When he saw their faces at the end, he didn't have to see if the totem stopped, he already knew.
Ambiguity is the goal of this movie. Nolan has stated that the kids are different and the clothing is all different. Remember tho that Ariadne DID see Cobb's home and his children in the exact same position in the back yard. and in the end of the film it was not Cobb who called the children. it was his father. The movie is whatever you make it since there is nothing filmed after the last seconds footage of the top were taken. It's an open-ended film. Inception>Matrix. Matrix= Action Blockbuster
@supertyty93 he is inn the real world bc u cant change the outcome to reality in a dream. and the girl looked about two years older than the first time and plus the top was not his totem, it was the ring. the top was his wifes
Here's an explaination, the top (totem) was his wifes, therefore it would not work properly for him, in his dream he has a wedding ring as he's married in his dreams, but in reality theres no wedding ring, and at the end he has no wedding ring, BAM REALITY.
I always just figured if was a cliff hanger because you never actually see if the top stops spinning or not...
If you notice at the very end the top vaulters as though it really was real, but then they cut the camera, as I always thought, for the sake of suspense
It's not real. No matter how much we want it to be it never will be. The children havent aged at all. The human mind cant accept things it doesnt want to, this is what this scene is trying to tell us.
There is no known ending. That's the meaning of cliffhanger - it's ambiguous. Nolan has stated several times that he won't mention anything about the ending, because there is nothing to reveal actually. For him, that's the beauty of the movie. For us, it will always be a big question mark. It's made on purpose, whether we like it or not.
Ah that is were your wrong, if you were following the story line then you would have heard him say he ahsn't seen them in a couple of years, if they are exactly the same after a couple of years then how is it real?
Hey if you die in the dream you don,t really die but if you drown in back of the van your prb really dead ,,humans can,t breathe under water ..my guess his dream before he died ,,
@gnrcr Look the guy who was shot in the dream was dying ..because he was unable to wake up frm the sedative .he died .so when the free fall in the second level almost did work they were all wraped together for the fall ..all except for cobb..they didn,t give him the head phones for the jump start he said he was staying ..if you can get shot dream or not you can drown dude ..he died in the dream got lost in limbo ..hence the dream of him seeing his kids it what he wanted the most ..
@cmeade2008 But they all woke up "on the plane" where they initially went inside the dream. Him and Ken did end up in limbo but they managed to get out of it because of the spinning top. After Leo ends up in limbo he realises after seeing the spinning top that he IS dreaming therefore they managed to get out of it. The part where is boggles my mind is when the spinning top is still spinning at the end. Therefore I think the whole movie actually took place in the limbo. O.O
The top was about to fall over too, if you watch it when he's actually dreaming it doesn't falter, but at the end just before it cuts out of the last scene it started to wobble, also that was his wife's totem so it shouldn't really work for him, his totem is is wedding ring, (not my theory just something I saw and I don't think its plausible) in dreams he's wearing it and when he's awake he's not, BUT since he let go and moved on from Mal his wedding ring wouldn't really be his totem anymore
ok ill agree but why would they be doing the same thing wearing the same clothes as last time he saw them years later? he's clearly still dreaming and is ok with that, says so in the screen play
Well, in my opinion he threw the ring in the lava, then he got unplugged from matrix, entered stargate to Pandora and tries to steal Gran Torino. That's were Sarah Connor comes in and takes the hobbits to the Isengard...
The point everyone missing has nothing to do with the totem spinning or falling over. Notice how he spins the totem and just leaves... he doesn't care if it stops or keeps going, he is so ruined by this inception and constant dream state, that it wouldn't matter anymore. If it spins, it spins, if it doesn't, it doesn't. He just goes over to his kids. Stop debating over it toppling or not because you miss the entire point of the scene, that it didn't matter if it toppled or not.
@KLsemperFi7 the point does depend on if it fall but it also depends on if he turns around, see it has once he's done playing with his kids there is a possible that he will walk by the top and remember, he will see if it spins or not spins. it is true he doesn't care because in his own self conscious says that he is in reality but if the movie went on from my prospective and what i saw of his kids, he is in reality, THANK THE MOVIE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DECIDE IT IN THE END.
I truly believe he made it to his kids. The whole message of the film is its better to choose a painful reality than a comfortable lie. If he didn't make it to reality in the end, the film would make no sense.
If anybody actually really thought about it they would realize that it's not even his totem. That is why the dream is real. The totem was Mal's totem lol.
ALRIGHT PEOPLE IM GONNA EXPLAIN THE ENDING OF INCEPTION ONCE MORE SO LISTEN UP IT DOESNT MATTER IF THE TOP STOPED SPINNING OR NOT ALL THAT MATTERS IS THAT HE GOT WHERE HE WANTED TO BE
@chaser51234 actually it does matter, this is real because cobb doesnt have a wedding ring on his finger when he spins the top. in the dreams he has a ring because he is still married and Mal is still alive
@5tateOfEmergency then why didnt they show the top falling over if it was real or why didnt they show the top keep spinning when they are setting the table for dinner a half hour later
@5tateOfEmergency alright your probably way overthinking this... the film makers probably wanted people to think it doesnt matter if its real or not he's happy and thats all that matters that why they didnt show the top fall or stay standing... and thats also why cobb walked away from the top and didnt wait for the answer... all he cares is that he's home with his kids it doesnt matter to him if it is all a dream or not... you would be right if he waited for the top to fall over
@chaser51234 ok you need to see the movie again, Cobb's totem isn't the top (it's mal's)
Cobb wearing/not wearing a wedding ring depends if he's in a dream or not. at the end he's wearing a ring...so he's not dreaming. so in a way you were right, it doesnt matter if the top stopped spinning or not
that's not proof, anyone that has dropped acid can tell you that your mind can fabricate some really detailed stuff. it can even maintain a dynamic surrealism, especially since it's your own mind working against you. you know what you know, when you know it...
It's actually brilliant because it illustrates a concept in psychology called change blindness. Not surprised Nolan did something like this! Pretty cool.
Or...we could look at the credits and see that the girl and boy are different actors/actresses between the duration of Cobbs when he saw them before he left America and after he arrived, the clip we see here.
he spins top after getting the sleeping drugs about 30 40 min in someone scares him he knocks the top over never finding out if he was still dreaming or awake. This proves that everything after this point was a dream. His dream of his epic fight to get his children back. Whatch the movie you will see.
How do you explain the scene where he shoots himself and gets out of limbo? Everyone else goes up one layer after each kick, but he goes directly to reality? That doesn't make any sense. What I think happend is that when he shot himself, he went up one layer, (to the snow fortress) which was empty because the other already left it. He created what he expected, the reality for him. He also accepted that Mal was gone, thus not having the ring on him
And of course it matters whether he's dreaming or not. Being stuck in a dream has real-world consequences which will eventually bite him in the butt, and he won't be able to avoid those consequences by convincing himself his dream is real (if he is still dreaming).
@IrritatingRemote so, does that actually mean Titanic was a dream all along and then he wakes up in Limbo in Inception, meaning the whole Inception was Limbo? Oh man, my mind is officially fucked o-O
Come now people. It don't matter whether he was dreaming or not, he doesn't care whether he's dreaming or not. Cobb's end mission was to get back to his kids. He made that his reality.
I agree with everybody saying that it doesn't matter if he was dreaming or not. Although, i know it is real, not because of what the video proves, but because of a different reason. If you watch throughout the movie, Cobb has a wedding ring on his finger when he is dreaming, and doesn't when it's real life. If you look very closely in that last scene, you can't see any ring on his finger, showing that he is awake and in reality.
ITS REAL if you look at the scene again the movie cuts off as the top is wobbling, about to fall. which means it will eventually fall, which means he is not dreaming.
@sheen49 unless the top falls in his dreams too, which means it's still a dream. why does the dreamer say "this is my totem" and everyone believes it? even the one who says it believes it, hence why hes stuck in dreamland forever. You really think a top can't fall in a dream? Get real kids.
People are so annoying. The director made the ending this way to show that he's not concerned about being in a dream anymore. He's just happy to be with his children. The top is spinning, does he care? no...you shouldn't either. For fuck sakes, even the man that wrote it said that. Plus the man that played the father said that the ending is real because he created inception, and whenever you see him...it's real because he's never in the dreams.
you guys are correct on the fact the cobb just care whether its real or not. however, the top wasn't his totem anyways, it was his wives. he has his own totem that proves and tells him which one is a dream and which one is reality. when he finally arrives to see his kids, that was no dream, it was reality.
his totem is his wedding ring.....he wheres it only when he goes into a dream.
@soto293 he doesn't have a totem.. totems in dreams are anything that is impossible in reality. like floating shit, dying and yet still being alive, shit like that. a top falling or a ring, doesn't prove to you if you are awake or not. think of your own dreams. only a top spinning forever can prove you are dreaming. if it falls, you could still be dreaming. horrible totem, mega fail. hence why his wife kept coming back and also trying to get him to kill himself, so he would wake the fuck up. lol
Guys, the wedding ring on Cob's finger means NOTHING. Ever since he let go of Mal when he said "You're just a shade of my subconscious, I'm going to have to let you go now..." right there, he is DETACHED from Mal, which means even if he's in a dream or not in the end, the ring won't mean anything.
Yes it's different kids and slightly different clothing on the children. But more importantly the Top aint his Totem it was his Wifes. Wedding Ring on in the Dream Worlds Not on in the Real World.
I think that the end scene is the "real world" that has been the "real world" for the entire movie but this is just another dream layer in my opinion and Mal is finally out.
every time I see the ending, I think people seem to miss the point. It's not whether or not that the ending was real or dream, it is the fact that Cobb has let go of the dream world as a means of escape and that the whole thing didn't matter anymore.
@MrSquishedsquashed If it was the last thing you saw them wearing, i think that is what you would remember the most. Also, when he is talking to his kids, the scene changes to the last time he saw them, how he last remembered them.
@USful Yes but if it weren't real it wouldn't be his memories it would be a dream and when I dream I don't see, say my dad in the same clothes as I last saw and also sometimes I have dreams of the future I see him older as well.
this proves nothing. all it shows is that movies contain continuety errors, and im sure theres some bloke on youtube who shows them all in a very long and im sure highly viewed video
And the spinning thing keeps on spinning.. I dunno, I am gonna put my belief in an actual feature of the film, rather than what could be a closet fail.
@CrunchPurpleCrayons True. However, does the owner of the totem have anything to do with it's movement in the dream/reality? Refresh my memory, it's been a while since I saw inception.
The thing they took to fall asleep left the ears alone, when they were about to land on the airplane and losing altitude, the changes in pressure from outside would affect your ears. Anyone on a plane would know that weird sensation you get in your ears, it would have woken him up.
There are two things I'd like to state about the ending of this film.
1) Michael Cain's character is never present in anyone's dreams. He is, however, present in the final scene.
2) Chris Nolan stated that Cain's presence was meant to hint that the ending was in fact real - not a dream. As an aspiring director, I believe that the interpretation of the film's director is the *true* interpretation of a film - regardless of what the audience wishes to think. If Nolan says it's real; it's real.
@SeedsOfHatred 'As an aspiring director, I believe that the interpretation of the film's director is the *true* interpretation of a film"
That is intentional fallacy. The meaning of a literary work is determined by what it actually says, not what the author intended it to say. If you intend to paint a sign that says "No Entry Allowed", but you mistakenly leave off the "No", what does the sign actually mean, entry allowed, or no entry allowed? The same principle holds true in more complex works.
@lookielouE1705 "Mistakenly" being the opperative word. Thus, your analogy is incredibly flawed.
But I'm not going to get into a philosophical debate about art. Art is entirely subjective, and the audience may view that art in whichever manner or context they wish.
Having said that, I personally prefer to view it in the context that the artist intended. Why? Because "I'm an aspiring director" - an artist - and am thus biased toward the artist in most cases.
@elpato39 The director stated that he intended the ending to be real, rather than a dream. He hinted at this fact in the film by doing two things: 1) portraying Michael Cain in the scene (his character neither enters, nor is projected in dreams; he is strictly an architect) and 2) the slight spinning of the top just before the cut.
@dfer159632 To people talking about the ring I want to say that the fact Nolan didn't insist on its absence on Cobb's finger (by using some specific shots) means that his intention wasn't to suggest the character is in the reality. He has insisted more on kids' faces and the moving of the totem (which actually appears to get close to stop).
Does anyone notice that Cobb wakes up on the airplane by behaving differently? His fellows don't know him. I guess he has used their faces unconsciously to build a dream upon his personal tragedy. After his wife's death, he had decided to escape. What is real is just his father wanting him coming back home, where his children are waiting for his return after time. Thi is just my personal interpration of the movie which I have built on right during the view of the end.
@zach85 Well, they aren't supposed to know each other if you remember. Just passengers on the same plane, or their little heist would've been caught. Even at the airport, they kept it that way but they still looked at each other, giving the classic look of "hey" or "good luck". Can be interpreted differently as can everything, Inception is a perfect example of this.
@ShadowGunHai I had forgot it partially, but as you well say, each one of us may look at it as he feels his own ending fits more with the rest of the movie. Nolan has been a master in it. On my personal view, as all the events are just part of an ordinary dream, Cobb has "built" (unconsciously) his dream by assuming that, once waken up, they are not supposed to know each. I feel a big difference between the mood of before his waking up on the airplane and after it :)
so after watching it like a 100 times lol.i realized it him seeing there faces that lets him know. he back to reality.the last reall memory he has of seeing his kids he didnt see thier faces, thats why throught the movie in the dreams you dont see thier faces. so in the end when they turn their heads and look at him he knows beyond a doubt he back home.
Well that doesn't prove anything, although it's interesting. The idea that the ending is real can't be proven by the use of older actors and small changes in clothing. If the film maker definitely wanted the audience to believe it was real then they would've filmed the totem falling over, instead of cutting the scene just before it seems like it's going to fall over. He did take over Mal's totem which is why Ariadne wasn't allowed to touch it.
theJungleb00k 2 days ago
I've seen the movie 5 times now and I believe that it is real, this movie is incredible.
livvw 2 days ago
In the ending credits, it shows the names of the younger children and then the names of the older children meaning that the children aged. Obviously Leonardo's character saw his children a few years later so this means that the ending of Inception is real. It's not a dream.
theVanCityLife 2 days ago
Honestly in the real life the children are going to chenge clothes -.-
darknesox7 3 days ago
Nolan already responded to the ending of Inception. It's out there, go find it.
BadMannerKorea 4 days ago
It is real and here is the proof. In the credits there are 2 actors credited for each child. There is a Phillipa age 3 and a Phillipa age 5, there is also a James at 20 months old and one at 3 years old...there is the answer---from Chris Nolan who wrote the movie and casted 2 different actors for each child....boom!
xcbopper1289 4 days ago
i think the point of the ending is that he doesnt care about whether reality is a dream or not anymore, and that he put it behind him
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i think that cobb mind perceive what is reality and what is fake as one single dimension. that probably why the spin top wobbles but didnt stop spinning.
bluemassgamer17 4 days ago
I suspected that ending from the scene in the first act, where he dropped the top on the bathroom floor and never got the chance to spin it right after the second trial with the architect, then we don't see him spin it again until the end of the movie.
The top became his totem after Mal died, since she was the only one that knew the weight and feel of it.
Never, not even once, did he call for the kids during the film. It was Cane that called them in the end.
morphman86 6 days ago
speechmeandor....
aznguy11111 1 week ago
Kids turn so he can see their faces, cause the last moment he remembers was that kids don't look at him. Boom.
tekknorat 1 week ago
When he is dreaming he wears his wedding ring. In real life he doesnt wear his ring. In this scene you can notice he isnt wearing his wedding ring.
deadlyeagle85 1 week ago
Also, in a dream state, he's always wearing the ring because in his mind, he is still married. But in reality, he doesn't have a ring on because he knows his wife is dead. Watch the part where he gives his passport to the security when they arrive in US. You can tell if he is wearing a ring or not.
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Matthewkilb 1 week ago 3
lol whether or not it topples or not doesn't even mean anything. he's the only character who knows exactly how it wobbles/how long it spins for, so it would eventually topple in real life or a dream.. duh?
TinnedWaffles 1 week ago
its not real. Because he's stuck in limbo . Plus the top does not stop spinning. PLUS he woke up not plugged in.
CruZSourCreamZ 1 week ago
@CruZSourCreamZ He's not in limbo, that much is obvious from the definition of limbo given earlier in the film. Also, the camera cuts away while the top is still spinning, so we don't know if it stops or not.
He woke up not plugged in? So what? Maybe someone else unplugged him.
Matthewkilb 1 week ago
@Matthewkilb Nevermind i watched it again . The top Stopped Spinning in the end of the Credits :) xD
CruZSourCreamZ 1 week ago
@CruZSourCreamZ No it didn't.
Matthewkilb 1 week ago
@Matthewkilb yea it did
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Matthewkilb 6 days ago
@CruZSourCreamZ You're a bender mate!
Matthewkilb 6 days ago
@Matthewkilb HAhahaha heres my real explanation i was just joking XD HAHA
ok the top isnt really de caprio's real totem its his wife's totem . De Caprio's totem is hes children cuz in the dream when he calls his children they run away.
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Matthewkilb 5 days ago
excellent pickup. Also long shadows like a sunset or sunrise in the first scene, and different time of the day in the second scene, possible noon? Only thing this proves is that the scenes are different.... but real? What's real man?
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the top isnt his totem.. it was mals, the wedding ring is his totem, whenever he's asleep he's wearing the wedding ring and thats why mal is always there. whenever he dreams he has his wedding ring on, at the end of the movie he isnt wearing it
mulawka16 1 week ago
I think people simply want the ending to be real as we all love a happy ending
Karleebatron 2 weeks ago 3
There is no right answer...Plus what you thought was a dream could have been reality. I strongly recommend watching other Christopher Nolan films, they are all amazing and mind blowing like this!
sshookum 2 weeks ago
no, the ending is not entirely what he wants. because the only memory he had of his kids was them running away. in this scene they actually turn and look, without the memory of thier faces he couldnt have made his dream to show his kids faces. thus (as the thing was getting very unstable and had a chance to fall) the scnee is probebly real.
menyyearsago 2 weeks ago
@menyyearsago Are you seriously telling me he wouldn't have been able to remember his kid's faces and construct a dream with them in? Also, if he was unable to see their faces in his dream, why does he turn away and prevent himself looking when they start to turn towards him during his return to limbo to confront Mal and rescue Saito? The point is not that he can't remember their faces, but that he stops himself putting them in his dream, because part of him knows..
Matthewkilb 1 week ago
@menyyearsago ...that he has to maintain some kind of separation between reality and dreams. He has already been unable to resist projecting his dead wife into his dreams, but deep down he knows that this is just a projection and not her (as he says when he confronts her). To do the same thing with his children (who he knows are still alive) is one thing he won't allow himself to do. His children are the one thing that connects him to reality.
Matthewkilb 1 week ago
Go back watch the movie and take note of this. He said to Ariadne that in his dreams Mal and him are married still. In every scene that he is dreaming he has a wedding ring on, when he is awake it's gone. That totem is Mals totem not his, his totem is the ring. The writers incepted your mind to make you believe that Mals totem was his. An idea is like a virus, resilient, highly contagious. The smallest seed of an idea can grow.
killerhunter62 2 weeks ago 38
That's a radical notion right there.
(just kidding, I actually agree ;-)
paraponzi 2 weeks ago
@killerhunter62 Well, no. An imaginary ring that is only present in a a dream does not fit the description of a totem, as defined in the film. A totem must be a actual object with unique physical qualities that only the possessor will recognize.
The reason he is wearing a ring in his dreams is simply that they are still married in his dreams.
I don't understand why people keep saying that having another person touch your totem stops it from working. Not true.
Matthewkilb 1 week ago
@killerhunter62 yea is was Mals totem, but the point of a totem is to have something only you know the true feeling of, and since Mal is dead he is the only one who knows it so it works.
mjeffs11 1 day ago
His children was totem, he saw his faces at the end, the totem was his wifes
downwithu4 2 weeks ago
i'm so confused
PinkMeese 2 weeks ago
I assumed it was real because I remember hearing the sound of the totem falling over as soon as it blacked out.
OfficialRedux 2 weeks ago
I am such a dream state all of the time that i can incorporate anything to seem life like to make it seem real without realizing it! If he wanted to see his kids that way in a sub-conscience, he will see them diff to make it more appealing to him to make him think its real! In the dream world anything is possible! its how loved ones who have passed on survive in our thoughts. I dream in both black 7 white along with color as well. Si i can understand this movie quite well. Logic is not important
XAuroraTheGoddessX 2 weeks ago
I realized it was real when he told the girl while they were in the elevator that in his memories, he never got to see his children's faces and that if he ever wanted to see them again, he'd have to go home in reality to do it. When he saw their faces at the end, he didn't have to see if the totem stopped, he already knew.
botsysguy 2 weeks ago
Leap of faith
ebent3 2 weeks ago
Ambiguity is the goal of this movie. Nolan has stated that the kids are different and the clothing is all different. Remember tho that Ariadne DID see Cobb's home and his children in the exact same position in the back yard. and in the end of the film it was not Cobb who called the children. it was his father. The movie is whatever you make it since there is nothing filmed after the last seconds footage of the top were taken. It's an open-ended film. Inception>Matrix. Matrix= Action Blockbuster
ebent3 2 weeks ago
She could be wearing different clothes in the dream? D:
JelacaMakeup 2 weeks ago
There is no real or no real. The whole movie is a dream. He got his token from his wife which makes him not knowing if he has the real token or not.
MysticoNL 2 weeks ago
@MysticoNL his wife is dead for sure so no one knows how much the totem weighs.
Empressoftheflames 2 weeks ago
I wouldn't think it's proof. Maybe his subconcious made those changes.
childofthesun32 3 weeks ago
@supertyty93 he is inn the real world bc u cant change the outcome to reality in a dream. and the girl looked about two years older than the first time and plus the top was not his totem, it was the ring. the top was his wifes
zero00grav 3 weeks ago
@zero00grav i do believe he is in the real world but still THERE IS NO REAL OR NOT REAL ENDING
supertyty93 2 weeks ago
This only proves that reality is what we perceive it to be, it does not matter if it's a dream or not if this is real to Cobb then it's real.
kenjininjaofwar 3 weeks ago
the whole point of the ending is that he doesnt care whether its real or not
MRandomname100 3 weeks ago
The fact that Ariadne and Mal know how Cobb's totem works leaves it to interpretation.
BigMeachRants 3 weeks ago
Here's an explaination, the top (totem) was his wifes, therefore it would not work properly for him, in his dream he has a wedding ring as he's married in his dreams, but in reality theres no wedding ring, and at the end he has no wedding ring, BAM REALITY.
EliminationHD 3 weeks ago
I always just figured if was a cliff hanger because you never actually see if the top stops spinning or not...
If you notice at the very end the top vaulters as though it really was real, but then they cut the camera, as I always thought, for the sake of suspense
TheJinx987 3 weeks ago
Who's to say that his mind didn't just create them differently in this dream?
tllewellyn11 3 weeks ago
Look at the kids names in the credits. You'll see that there are different actors that play the older version of the kids.
Hurvduperv 3 weeks ago
There is no REAL or NOT REAL ending. The ending is whatever we want to believe it is.
supertyty93 3 weeks ago 72
@supertyty93 no bitch, this proves it
coolsvilleowner 3 weeks ago
@coolsvilleowner however i do believe he's in the real world, there is TECHNICALLY no real or not real ending.
supertyty93 2 weeks ago
@supertyty93 top falls, children older different clothing, no wedding ring=Reality....'nough said....
CreationSGame01 2 weeks ago
It's not real. No matter how much we want it to be it never will be. The children havent aged at all. The human mind cant accept things it doesnt want to, this is what this scene is trying to tell us.
isleomull 3 weeks ago
Of course he could have dreamt that they grew up.
KnightStorm1988 4 weeks ago
@KnightStorm1988 Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
sweetpeariot 3 weeks ago
There is no known ending. That's the meaning of cliffhanger - it's ambiguous. Nolan has stated several times that he won't mention anything about the ending, because there is nothing to reveal actually. For him, that's the beauty of the movie. For us, it will always be a big question mark. It's made on purpose, whether we like it or not.
GengisPkmn 4 weeks ago
damn!!!
naturezoo 4 weeks ago
Ah that is were your wrong, if you were following the story line then you would have heard him say he ahsn't seen them in a couple of years, if they are exactly the same after a couple of years then how is it real?
LPPixels 1 month ago
Hey if you die in the dream you don,t really die but if you drown in back of the van your prb really dead ,,humans can,t breathe under water ..my guess his dream before he died ,,
cmeade2008 1 month ago
@cmeade2008 So much nonsense.
gnrcr 1 month ago
@gnrcr Look the guy who was shot in the dream was dying ..because he was unable to wake up frm the sedative .he died .so when the free fall in the second level almost did work they were all wraped together for the fall ..all except for cobb..they didn,t give him the head phones for the jump start he said he was staying ..if you can get shot dream or not you can drown dude ..he died in the dream got lost in limbo ..hence the dream of him seeing his kids it what he wanted the most ..
cmeade2008 4 weeks ago
@cmeade2008 But they all woke up "on the plane" where they initially went inside the dream. Him and Ken did end up in limbo but they managed to get out of it because of the spinning top. After Leo ends up in limbo he realises after seeing the spinning top that he IS dreaming therefore they managed to get out of it. The part where is boggles my mind is when the spinning top is still spinning at the end. Therefore I think the whole movie actually took place in the limbo. O.O
f00tballfever 3 weeks ago
This is getting more talked about than the existence of Big Foot :L:L
CrazyMadMadi 1 month ago
The top was about to fall over too, if you watch it when he's actually dreaming it doesn't falter, but at the end just before it cuts out of the last scene it started to wobble, also that was his wife's totem so it shouldn't really work for him, his totem is is wedding ring, (not my theory just something I saw and I don't think its plausible) in dreams he's wearing it and when he's awake he's not, BUT since he let go and moved on from Mal his wedding ring wouldn't really be his totem anymore
CrazyMadMadi 1 month ago
ok ill agree but why would they be doing the same thing wearing the same clothes as last time he saw them years later? he's clearly still dreaming and is ok with that, says so in the screen play
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Well, in my opinion he threw the ring in the lava, then he got unplugged from matrix, entered stargate to Pandora and tries to steal Gran Torino. That's were Sarah Connor comes in and takes the hobbits to the Isengard...
MrMagzMovies 1 month ago
The point everyone missing has nothing to do with the totem spinning or falling over. Notice how he spins the totem and just leaves... he doesn't care if it stops or keeps going, he is so ruined by this inception and constant dream state, that it wouldn't matter anymore. If it spins, it spins, if it doesn't, it doesn't. He just goes over to his kids. Stop debating over it toppling or not because you miss the entire point of the scene, that it didn't matter if it toppled or not.
KLsemperFi7 1 month ago 35
@KLsemperFi7
Never thought about it this way. But yeah, I guess that you are right.
NemanjaPN34 1 month ago
@KLsemperFi7 the point does depend on if it fall but it also depends on if he turns around, see it has once he's done playing with his kids there is a possible that he will walk by the top and remember, he will see if it spins or not spins. it is true he doesn't care because in his own self conscious says that he is in reality but if the movie went on from my prospective and what i saw of his kids, he is in reality, THANK THE MOVIE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DECIDE IT IN THE END.
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Matthewkilb 1 week ago
I truly believe he made it to his kids. The whole message of the film is its better to choose a painful reality than a comfortable lie. If he didn't make it to reality in the end, the film would make no sense.
ThePhoenixAvalon 1 month ago
Reading some of these comments I think, how do you understand this film!
NoImNotTooHairy 1 month ago
also did u notice that he has the ring on when he is dreaming and when he is awake he has no ring
M3ssageT4k3n 1 month ago
Before the film cuts to black the spinningtop begins to topple. That should be the only explanation we need.
AScearce2332 1 month ago
@AScearce2332
You mean when it began to topple, then didn't and ended up spinning again?
TrentSki80 1 month ago
If anybody actually really thought about it they would realize that it's not even his totem. That is why the dream is real. The totem was Mal's totem lol.
MrEternity1 1 month ago
ALRIGHT PEOPLE IM GONNA EXPLAIN THE ENDING OF INCEPTION ONCE MORE SO LISTEN UP IT DOESNT MATTER IF THE TOP STOPED SPINNING OR NOT ALL THAT MATTERS IS THAT HE GOT WHERE HE WANTED TO BE
chaser51234 1 month ago 3
@chaser51234 actually it does matter, this is real because cobb doesnt have a wedding ring on his finger when he spins the top. in the dreams he has a ring because he is still married and Mal is still alive
5tateOfEmergency 1 month ago
@5tateOfEmergency then why didnt they show the top falling over if it was real or why didnt they show the top keep spinning when they are setting the table for dinner a half hour later
chaser51234 1 month ago
@chaser51234 now you're questioning the filmmakers. why does it have to be so obvious? its good to use your brain ya know?
5tateOfEmergency 1 month ago
@5tateOfEmergency alright your probably way overthinking this... the film makers probably wanted people to think it doesnt matter if its real or not he's happy and thats all that matters that why they didnt show the top fall or stay standing... and thats also why cobb walked away from the top and didnt wait for the answer... all he cares is that he's home with his kids it doesnt matter to him if it is all a dream or not... you would be right if he waited for the top to fall over
chaser51234 1 month ago
@5tateOfEmergency lol i proved you wrong this video is a complete lie just admit im right and we will be cool
chaser51234 4 weeks ago
@chaser51234 ok you need to see the movie again, Cobb's totem isn't the top (it's mal's)
Cobb wearing/not wearing a wedding ring depends if he's in a dream or not. at the end he's wearing a ring...so he's not dreaming. so in a way you were right, it doesnt matter if the top stopped spinning or not
5tateOfEmergency 4 weeks ago
@chaser51234
That irrelevant to the question being asked, is it real or not and if it isn't real, he didn't real get to where he wanted to be. Common sense really
TrentSki80 1 month ago
No reason why the same scene can change in a dream.
BedsideGnome 1 month ago
that's not proof, anyone that has dropped acid can tell you that your mind can fabricate some really detailed stuff. it can even maintain a dynamic surrealism, especially since it's your own mind working against you. you know what you know, when you know it...
ok, too deep, i'm going back to my T.V. now.
oh! "how it's made" win!!! :D
science channel rules.
LeftCatcher 1 month ago
It's actually brilliant because it illustrates a concept in psychology called change blindness. Not surprised Nolan did something like this! Pretty cool.
feadeh 1 month ago
Or...we could look at the credits and see that the girl and boy are different actors/actresses between the duration of Cobbs when he saw them before he left America and after he arrived, the clip we see here.
sch00lw012k 1 month ago
the kids say we're building a house on a cliff" aka. its a dream.
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saturnianmusic 1 month ago
he spins top after getting the sleeping drugs about 30 40 min in someone scares him he knocks the top over never finding out if he was still dreaming or awake. This proves that everything after this point was a dream. His dream of his epic fight to get his children back. Whatch the movie you will see.
shodowhawk 1 month ago 3
wedding ring is off when its real and when he is dreaming hes wearing it . easy
SuperFuturefly 1 month ago
For everyone saying it's reality:
How do you explain the scene where he shoots himself and gets out of limbo? Everyone else goes up one layer after each kick, but he goes directly to reality? That doesn't make any sense. What I think happend is that when he shot himself, he went up one layer, (to the snow fortress) which was empty because the other already left it. He created what he expected, the reality for him. He also accepted that Mal was gone, thus not having the ring on him
AnderssonProductionz 1 month ago
And of course it matters whether he's dreaming or not. Being stuck in a dream has real-world consequences which will eventually bite him in the butt, and he won't be able to avoid those consequences by convincing himself his dream is real (if he is still dreaming).
lookielouE1705 1 month ago
Who are you to say what's REAL? :(
Mattikish 1 month ago
In the end of Titanic, Loenardo DiCaprio dies and sinks into the ocean.
The beginning of Inception is him waking up on a beach.
I haven't ever been so mindfucked.
IrritatingRemote 1 month ago 210
@IrritatingRemote *Leonardo
IrritatingRemote 1 month ago
@IrritatingRemote best top comment
DiagramOfTruth 1 month ago
@IrritatingRemote OMG I was thinking the same thing too!!!!!!
icunspall 1 month ago
@IrritatingRemote That's brilliant!!
Joninexamgraduate 4 weeks ago
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@IrritatingRemote so, does that actually mean Titanic was a dream all along and then he wakes up in Limbo in Inception, meaning the whole Inception was Limbo? Oh man, my mind is officially fucked o-O
umagarandyorton619 4 weeks ago
@IrritatingRemote Death is only a temporary inconvenience.
Djinnfest 3 weeks ago
@IrritatingRemote LOL
IXSocrates 2 weeks ago
Come now people. It don't matter whether he was dreaming or not, he doesn't care whether he's dreaming or not. Cobb's end mission was to get back to his kids. He made that his reality.
TheZulu325 1 month ago
His wife kills his drowns his kids in the lake outside their house and he becomes insane anyways so it doesn't matter
Spar125 1 month ago 8
If he can dream an entire city, can't he dream his children with longer sleeves?
Jimmy81691 1 month ago 4
it just proves that the crew fucked up when they re-shot the end is all
Fatal616 1 month ago
I agree with everybody saying that it doesn't matter if he was dreaming or not. Although, i know it is real, not because of what the video proves, but because of a different reason. If you watch throughout the movie, Cobb has a wedding ring on his finger when he is dreaming, and doesn't when it's real life. If you look very closely in that last scene, you can't see any ring on his finger, showing that he is awake and in reality.
peteyo7654 1 month ago
ITS REAL if you look at the scene again the movie cuts off as the top is wobbling, about to fall. which means it will eventually fall, which means he is not dreaming.
sheen49 1 month ago
@sheen49 unless the top falls in his dreams too, which means it's still a dream. why does the dreamer say "this is my totem" and everyone believes it? even the one who says it believes it, hence why hes stuck in dreamland forever. You really think a top can't fall in a dream? Get real kids.
Fatal616 1 month ago
@Fatal616 i did some more research, its the ring.
sheen49 1 month ago
@sheen49
So should we just conveniently forget about it straightening out and how it kept on spinning
TrentSki80 1 month ago
People are so annoying. The director made the ending this way to show that he's not concerned about being in a dream anymore. He's just happy to be with his children. The top is spinning, does he care? no...you shouldn't either. For fuck sakes, even the man that wrote it said that. Plus the man that played the father said that the ending is real because he created inception, and whenever you see him...it's real because he's never in the dreams.
KrazyBitch000 1 month ago 3
doesn't*** inserted right after "just" sorry lol
soto293 1 month ago
you guys are correct on the fact the cobb just care whether its real or not. however, the top wasn't his totem anyways, it was his wives. he has his own totem that proves and tells him which one is a dream and which one is reality. when he finally arrives to see his kids, that was no dream, it was reality.
his totem is his wedding ring.....he wheres it only when he goes into a dream.
soto293 1 month ago
@soto293 he doesn't have a totem.. totems in dreams are anything that is impossible in reality. like floating shit, dying and yet still being alive, shit like that. a top falling or a ring, doesn't prove to you if you are awake or not. think of your own dreams. only a top spinning forever can prove you are dreaming. if it falls, you could still be dreaming. horrible totem, mega fail. hence why his wife kept coming back and also trying to get him to kill himself, so he would wake the fuck up. lol
Fatal616 1 month ago
*Spins top
*Doesn't check it and accepts it as reality
*Comes back 15 minutes later to clear off the table for dinner and sees top spinning
...
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"AW FUCK"
macbeasty 1 month ago 154
@macbeasty but if that were true then there was no point in the rest of the movie cus that was in a dream...
Aidan303 1 month ago
Guys, the wedding ring on Cob's finger means NOTHING. Ever since he let go of Mal when he said "You're just a shade of my subconscious, I'm going to have to let you go now..." right there, he is DETACHED from Mal, which means even if he's in a dream or not in the end, the ring won't mean anything.
selfself7 1 month ago
Yes it's different kids and slightly different clothing on the children. But more importantly the Top aint his Totem it was his Wifes. Wedding Ring on in the Dream Worlds Not on in the Real World.
silentbob8201 1 month ago
This movie is in my Top 10, maybe my Top 5. I have a video that explains why Cobb is NOT dreaming at the end, however.
CurbsideProphet21 1 month ago
if it was real why r the kids wearing the same clothes and shouldnt they have aged at least a little bit
vasz123 1 month ago
@vasz123 they arent according to the costume director.
silentbob8201 1 month ago
This movie was fine... But these comments hurt my head
GammaWALLE 1 month ago
When Cobb is in a dream, he is wearing his wedding ring. In the real life he don't have it.
xlinkin485xxD 1 month ago
I think that the end scene is the "real world" that has been the "real world" for the entire movie but this is just another dream layer in my opinion and Mal is finally out.
ZacMacTV 1 month ago
every time I see the ending, I think people seem to miss the point. It's not whether or not that the ending was real or dream, it is the fact that Cobb has let go of the dream world as a means of escape and that the whole thing didn't matter anymore.
Dsleaz 1 month ago
Doesn't prove anything.. Just another theory. :)
kaUsiki 1 month ago
There I go thinking about elephants again.
manny6pack 1 month ago
stop trying to find out the truth. the ending is ambiguous and that is what makes inception truly beautiful.
ArcherTheAwesome 1 month ago
Michael Caine wasn't in the dream, so it's real.
TheDensley7 1 month ago
apparentley 528491 out of 1000000 people think its real
dalektaliban 1 month ago
It is not necessarily movie errors or real in the movie
if you dream about someone they don't always appear exactly the same as when you last saw them do they?
MrSquishedsquashed 1 month ago
@MrSquishedsquashed If it was the last thing you saw them wearing, i think that is what you would remember the most. Also, when he is talking to his kids, the scene changes to the last time he saw them, how he last remembered them.
USful 1 month ago
@USful Yes but if it weren't real it wouldn't be his memories it would be a dream and when I dream I don't see, say my dad in the same clothes as I last saw and also sometimes I have dreams of the future I see him older as well.
MrSquishedsquashed 1 month ago
none of it's real, they're all still dreaming in the drug den where they got the anaesthetic
Neylonx 1 month ago
this proves nothing. all it shows is that movies contain continuety errors, and im sure theres some bloke on youtube who shows them all in a very long and im sure highly viewed video
ErniePi 1 month ago
At the end when the top is spinning, you can hear his boy say "Look what I've been building. We're building a house on a cliff."
What is Saito living in when Cobb finds him in Limbo? A house on a cliff (described that way in the script.)
The subconscious leaks into dreams.
guaranic 1 month ago
If you think about it, somebody could have made these changes if they controlled the dream. However I agree that it is most likely reality.
CJEJTHEDJ 1 month ago
And the spinning thing keeps on spinning.. I dunno, I am gonna put my belief in an actual feature of the film, rather than what could be a closet fail.
iiBigfootii 1 month ago
@iiBigfootii But the thing is, the top wasn't Cobb's totem.
CrunchPurpleCrayons 1 month ago
@CrunchPurpleCrayons True. However, does the owner of the totem have anything to do with it's movement in the dream/reality? Refresh my memory, it's been a while since I saw inception.
iiBigfootii 1 month ago
The thing they took to fall asleep left the ears alone, when they were about to land on the airplane and losing altitude, the changes in pressure from outside would affect your ears. Anyone on a plane would know that weird sensation you get in your ears, it would have woken him up.
AKCanadian 1 month ago
There are two things I'd like to state about the ending of this film.
1) Michael Cain's character is never present in anyone's dreams. He is, however, present in the final scene.
2) Chris Nolan stated that Cain's presence was meant to hint that the ending was in fact real - not a dream. As an aspiring director, I believe that the interpretation of the film's director is the *true* interpretation of a film - regardless of what the audience wishes to think. If Nolan says it's real; it's real.
SeedsOfHatred 1 month ago 4
@SeedsOfHatred 'As an aspiring director, I believe that the interpretation of the film's director is the *true* interpretation of a film"
That is intentional fallacy. The meaning of a literary work is determined by what it actually says, not what the author intended it to say. If you intend to paint a sign that says "No Entry Allowed", but you mistakenly leave off the "No", what does the sign actually mean, entry allowed, or no entry allowed? The same principle holds true in more complex works.
lookielouE1705 1 month ago
@lookielouE1705 "Mistakenly" being the opperative word. Thus, your analogy is incredibly flawed.
But I'm not going to get into a philosophical debate about art. Art is entirely subjective, and the audience may view that art in whichever manner or context they wish.
Having said that, I personally prefer to view it in the context that the artist intended. Why? Because "I'm an aspiring director" - an artist - and am thus biased toward the artist in most cases.
SeedsOfHatred 1 month ago
@SeedsOfHatred out of curiosity, what is the context that the artist intended? you know, about the end?
elpato39 1 month ago
@elpato39 The director stated that he intended the ending to be real, rather than a dream. He hinted at this fact in the film by doing two things: 1) portraying Michael Cain in the scene (his character neither enters, nor is projected in dreams; he is strictly an architect) and 2) the slight spinning of the top just before the cut.
SeedsOfHatred 1 month ago
@dfer159632 To people talking about the ring I want to say that the fact Nolan didn't insist on its absence on Cobb's finger (by using some specific shots) means that his intention wasn't to suggest the character is in the reality. He has insisted more on kids' faces and the moving of the totem (which actually appears to get close to stop).
zach85 1 month ago
@ytcomposer i thought that too when i saw it but i thought it was just a continuty thing
onlyRatedAwesome 1 month ago
Does anyone notice that Cobb wakes up on the airplane by behaving differently? His fellows don't know him. I guess he has used their faces unconsciously to build a dream upon his personal tragedy. After his wife's death, he had decided to escape. What is real is just his father wanting him coming back home, where his children are waiting for his return after time. Thi is just my personal interpration of the movie which I have built on right during the view of the end.
zach85 1 month ago
@zach85 Well, they aren't supposed to know each other if you remember. Just passengers on the same plane, or their little heist would've been caught. Even at the airport, they kept it that way but they still looked at each other, giving the classic look of "hey" or "good luck". Can be interpreted differently as can everything, Inception is a perfect example of this.
ShadowGunHai 1 month ago
@ShadowGunHai I had forgot it partially, but as you well say, each one of us may look at it as he feels his own ending fits more with the rest of the movie. Nolan has been a master in it. On my personal view, as all the events are just part of an ordinary dream, Cobb has "built" (unconsciously) his dream by assuming that, once waken up, they are not supposed to know each. I feel a big difference between the mood of before his waking up on the airplane and after it :)
zach85 1 month ago
the question is not if its a different scene with the kids.
what if all of the movie has been a dream level in which they grew up a little?
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he doesnt need to see the top stop spinning.
JAYBUD71 1 month ago
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so after watching it like a 100 times lol.i realized it him seeing there faces that lets him know. he back to reality.the last reall memory he has of seeing his kids he didnt see thier faces, thats why throught the movie in the dreams you dont see thier faces. so in the end when they turn their heads and look at him he knows beyond a doubt he back home.
JAYBUD71 1 month ago
when you are back home,
it doesnt matter whether its a dream or reality.
2009obsessed 1 month ago
We will find out after we die, whether this life is reality or not.
ByChoiceMuslim 1 month ago
@ByChoiceMuslim Yea bro
Finsoul145 1 month ago