Is this what passes for opera today? You can have it. It's look like they got their ideas from Bye Bye Birdie....The singing here is one dimensional too..
oh god it sounds like it's another singer, her voice sounds so terrible, plus the recording doesn't help... She was way better on the first representations (up untill feb 8th) and is now back to her awesomeness, thank god. Check out my vids from La fille if you doubt it ;)
....here it's so easy to notice every tiny colour of natalie's new, darker voice......MUCH darker voice! I think i love her voice even more now....and the strain on the higher notes has been reduced! she can sing those notes from C6 and up with much more ease.....amazing
@killerbunny123123 It's hard to miss "colour" when she's singing all of two feet away from the microphones. That said, the only colour I'm getting is the tepid red-brown of irreversible vocal decline.
Well, first of all, that's not a TV studio, thats an opera theater, there are no mics there, and as Dessay has stated in one of her interviews, she doesnt sing with microphones....secondly, why on earth would you consider that as a decline? Her voice might not be as high and flexible as it was but now its deeper, darker, more serious, more dramatic....thats the exact opposite of "declined"
@killerbunny123123 If there are no microphones, then how was the audio recorded? I know what you're trying to say, that she is not personally miked with the sound being played to the audience, but the production, obviously, had to be miked to be recorded. It is common practice to put the necessary microphones where the footlights are in front of the proscenium. Secondly, it's a decline, because she has lost high notes without gaining low notes, she cracks often, etc.
yeah, i think its 100% logical to be 44 years old and not being able to sing an A6 right? so her voice is as normal and not declined as 99% of the modern opera singers who are above 43....also, the virtuosity of the soprano is not within the high notes.....its about giving a value to what notes you have....and i don't think that dessay's vocal range is to be considered small...even without the notes above high C...
Al público de Paris y a los fans de la Dessay habría que regalarles un sonotone... La Dessay no tiene una faringitis, está en plena decadencia vocal desde hace ya bastante tiempo. Además intenta ocultar sus carencias con gestos y exclamaciones de mal gusto ¡Abajo la musicalidad, viva el espectáculo!
I'm very worried about her voice... she has had problems with it for one year now, if she doesn't take care of it (instead of taking parts which destroy it, like traviata, etc...) or she could loose it definitly.
you are right. She has some problems, though she is ill right now in february during the Sonnambula's. But her voice often breaks. I don't know whether the roles have anything to do with it.
Well, not good at all for those who know how Dessay can sing. It's a pity she's in an off day exactly in the day her performance is being filmed. I heard past performances of her as Amina and, though I somehow doubt she can be properly convincing as a innocent girl who wants to marry and have a "heaven of love" with her husband, she always sang in an amazing way (except for the trills which are not her specialty).
Poor Natalie...she's really sick...I went to the performance yesterday (February 18) and she couldn't keep on singing after the first act, she was voiceless
This is for Dessay-fans, not for "melomanes". Acting like a windmill, I won't commet on the singing. What was the complaints about Callas? Did the hairdresser have a day off? Perhaps a hard critisism but she is hailed to be the best Amina today. But is she?
At the moment, yes i think she is the best Amina (even though during the Paris runs she was a bit sick - every singer is entitled to an off day). Or have you anyone else in mind for the role?
Well, no I have not. But if this is the golden standard of Amina-singing in 2010, I'll rather stick to the old records. And for singing on an off-day, I really don't know. If the singer cant deliver what he or she is being paid for, it's better to cancel! Would you like to be under surgery with a doctor holding the knife on an off-day?
@mekarts2 An off day? OFF DAY? The woman has had, what is it now, two or three vocal nodule surgeries!? That doesn't come around from an "off day" sweet-heart. As for anyone else in mind for the role, well actually, yes. Emma Matthews has just made her Covent Garden debut in the Cunning Little Vixen, and is currently singing her first season as Amina in Melbourne with Opera Australia. Now, she ain't perfect, but she's a damn sight better than Dessay.
@33blueberries 1. Please don't sweet-heart me, that's just wrong; 2. Will look into Emma Matthews, however it must be said that I never looked to Covent Garden for new talents. Generally new talents get discovered elsewhere and come to Covent Garden when they're in their late 40s; 3. Yes, off day, OFF DAY. In case you didn't know, lots of singer get vocal nodules, they're just not as sincere about them as Dessay. And yes, off day, because you could clearly tell she was sick during that run.
@33blueberries (continued) 4. As for other singers in the role, we still have Ciofi, Mosuc, Massis, Rancatore, Gutierrez, Netrebko, Jo and I'm guessing many others I forgot. However, even though they all have their individual charm, when it comes to Amina, I prefer Dessay for her commitment to the role, for her embellishments, phrasing and tone. I agree, she's not the same voice as she was a few years ago, but she's the next best thing.
Apprezziamo lo sforzo.
andreernestgretry 3 months ago
Lovely, but pale in comparison to Sutherland.
Eiswirth1 6 months ago
Once again we have rave reviews for a lyric soprano masquerading as a coloratura!
MrSwifts31 7 months ago
Is this what passes for opera today? You can have it. It's look like they got their ideas from Bye Bye Birdie....The singing here is one dimensional too..
profgv 1 year ago
@profgv BTW the day right after she had to cancel the performance because she was aphone. Not bad for a singer with pharyngitis
distefano13069609 9 months ago
oh god it sounds like it's another singer, her voice sounds so terrible, plus the recording doesn't help... She was way better on the first representations (up untill feb 8th) and is now back to her awesomeness, thank god. Check out my vids from La fille if you doubt it ;)
luvxl 1 year ago
She is not at her best, but anyway she sounds better than many others!!!!
reinadegrillos 1 year ago
....here it's so easy to notice every tiny colour of natalie's new, darker voice......MUCH darker voice! I think i love her voice even more now....and the strain on the higher notes has been reduced! she can sing those notes from C6 and up with much more ease.....amazing
killerbunny123123 1 year ago
@killerbunny123123 It's hard to miss "colour" when she's singing all of two feet away from the microphones. That said, the only colour I'm getting is the tepid red-brown of irreversible vocal decline.
33blueberries 1 year ago
@33blueberries
Well, first of all, that's not a TV studio, thats an opera theater, there are no mics there, and as Dessay has stated in one of her interviews, she doesnt sing with microphones....secondly, why on earth would you consider that as a decline? Her voice might not be as high and flexible as it was but now its deeper, darker, more serious, more dramatic....thats the exact opposite of "declined"
killerbunny123123 1 year ago
@killerbunny123123 If there are no microphones, then how was the audio recorded? I know what you're trying to say, that she is not personally miked with the sound being played to the audience, but the production, obviously, had to be miked to be recorded. It is common practice to put the necessary microphones where the footlights are in front of the proscenium. Secondly, it's a decline, because she has lost high notes without gaining low notes, she cracks often, etc.
33blueberries 1 year ago
@33blueberries
yeah, i think its 100% logical to be 44 years old and not being able to sing an A6 right? so her voice is as normal and not declined as 99% of the modern opera singers who are above 43....also, the virtuosity of the soprano is not within the high notes.....its about giving a value to what notes you have....and i don't think that dessay's vocal range is to be considered small...even without the notes above high C...
killerbunny123123 1 year ago 2
Al público de Paris y a los fans de la Dessay habría que regalarles un sonotone... La Dessay no tiene una faringitis, está en plena decadencia vocal desde hace ya bastante tiempo. Además intenta ocultar sus carencias con gestos y exclamaciones de mal gusto ¡Abajo la musicalidad, viva el espectáculo!
javierdetelleria 1 year ago
Elle chante magnifiquement bien, et en plus avec une pharyngite !
koobiachiic 1 year ago
I'm very worried about her voice... she has had problems with it for one year now, if she doesn't take care of it (instead of taking parts which destroy it, like traviata, etc...) or she could loose it definitly.
ClemLovesOpera 2 years ago
@ClemLovesOpera
you are right. She has some problems, though she is ill right now in february during the Sonnambula's. But her voice often breaks. I don't know whether the roles have anything to do with it.
What to you are the problems she is having?
velazquez2009 2 years ago
She was just sick. :-)
koobiachiic 1 year ago
Well, not good at all for those who know how Dessay can sing. It's a pity she's in an off day exactly in the day her performance is being filmed. I heard past performances of her as Amina and, though I somehow doubt she can be properly convincing as a innocent girl who wants to marry and have a "heaven of love" with her husband, she always sang in an amazing way (except for the trills which are not her specialty).
Homoclassicus 2 years ago
Poor Natalie...she's really sick...I went to the performance yesterday (February 18) and she couldn't keep on singing after the first act, she was voiceless
DessayBestSingerII 2 years ago 4
she is brave, and it sad! I saw her february 3th, she sang better that night than on the febr 15th broadcast.
But did she stop singing in the performance the 18th after the first act, or was she without voice?
Let's wish her well!
velazquez2009 2 years ago
she stopped singing and, as there was no understudy, the opera was cancelled, so we just saw Act I
DessayBestSingerII 2 years ago
I am very sorry for you, you as a very big fan must have looked forward to the event very much!
velazquez2009 2 years ago
well yeah of course....but I'm more worried about her than upset because of that!
DessayBestSingerII 2 years ago
as I have said: Let's wish her well!
she is so precious.
velazquez2009 2 years ago
This is for Dessay-fans, not for "melomanes". Acting like a windmill, I won't commet on the singing. What was the complaints about Callas? Did the hairdresser have a day off? Perhaps a hard critisism but she is hailed to be the best Amina today. But is she?
Laleyla 2 years ago
At the moment, yes i think she is the best Amina (even though during the Paris runs she was a bit sick - every singer is entitled to an off day). Or have you anyone else in mind for the role?
mekarts2 2 years ago 9
@mekarts2
Well, no I have not. But if this is the golden standard of Amina-singing in 2010, I'll rather stick to the old records. And for singing on an off-day, I really don't know. If the singer cant deliver what he or she is being paid for, it's better to cancel! Would you like to be under surgery with a doctor holding the knife on an off-day?
Laleyla 2 years ago
@mekarts2 An off day? OFF DAY? The woman has had, what is it now, two or three vocal nodule surgeries!? That doesn't come around from an "off day" sweet-heart. As for anyone else in mind for the role, well actually, yes. Emma Matthews has just made her Covent Garden debut in the Cunning Little Vixen, and is currently singing her first season as Amina in Melbourne with Opera Australia. Now, she ain't perfect, but she's a damn sight better than Dessay.
33blueberries 1 year ago
@33blueberries 1. Please don't sweet-heart me, that's just wrong; 2. Will look into Emma Matthews, however it must be said that I never looked to Covent Garden for new talents. Generally new talents get discovered elsewhere and come to Covent Garden when they're in their late 40s; 3. Yes, off day, OFF DAY. In case you didn't know, lots of singer get vocal nodules, they're just not as sincere about them as Dessay. And yes, off day, because you could clearly tell she was sick during that run.
mekarts2 1 year ago
@33blueberries (continued) 4. As for other singers in the role, we still have Ciofi, Mosuc, Massis, Rancatore, Gutierrez, Netrebko, Jo and I'm guessing many others I forgot. However, even though they all have their individual charm, when it comes to Amina, I prefer Dessay for her commitment to the role, for her embellishments, phrasing and tone. I agree, she's not the same voice as she was a few years ago, but she's the next best thing.
mekarts2 1 year ago