SSBM PC Chris (Falco) vs M2K (Fox) Match One

[Rh1thmz]

I love that guy in the background at 1:00, sums it up so well.

[Genesis2099]

did u here that asshole in the back ground.. (pAUSING can get u dissqualified..)

[itzzspencer]

1:46 they were laughing with me :p

[mahalic007]

mango and armada cant beat ken why does everyone think that

[LordKombox]

Ken already beat mango, mango even gave up and surrendered

[XSinDestroyerOfAllX]

Mango beat Ken at Evo world putting him in losers and that was before Mango really even traveled, then he was a just a shell of the player he is now and even back then he still won. Mango's way better now, Ken would just get destroyed. Just think what 2010 Mango would do to Ken when Ken lost to 2007 Mango.

[mahalic007]

its has changed alot ive notice but that simple shit that pc chris does still works

cause i still do simple shit and catch ppl with it ive nvr play m2k or mango and i know i cant beat them but me doin g simple shit alone well confuse the crap out of them

and ken is very simple

[XSinDestroyerOfAllX]

Keep watching videos from 3+years ago Ken fan boy, if you can't see how much the metagame has evolved your blind. Players have better DI, better shield pressure, less margin of error, way better out of shield game, better spacing, players now abuse the strengths of characters to the max and actually use things like shield DI consistently when before none did. Armada, Mango, M2K, Hungrybox, Amsah and many others beat Ken easily even if Ken was in his prime.

[LordKombox]

You didnt see the other sets they played before writing that crap did you fanboy? i was commenting about one i guess you didnt see. where mango won the first match, then ken 3 stocked him, then won the 2nd match and the set... it's been a while but thats what i remember.

And Who's to say old smashers would have grown with them? you're assuming that if they kept playing they would never get better? oh please. think of an argument before you rant about stupid shit like that.

[XSinDestroyerOfAllX]

The fact is Mango even beat Ken when he didn't travel as much and had less experience, Ken would be destroyed now if Mango could even beat him then

[LordKombox]

then in your logic: ken could destroy mango if ken could 3 stock mango back then.

[XSinDestroyerOfAllX]

It doesn't matter if Ken 3 stocked him then Mango had way less tools to become a better player and way less exposure to talent and he was still able to put Ken in loser despite the lack of experience. Mango wasn't even traveling, Ken was traveling all over the world to secure his title, traveling helps make a player a huge amount and Ken still lost a set despite the huge experience advantage he had, Mangos more talented

[LordKombox]

just whatch the other sets they played before you continue this shit xD

[XSinDestroyerOfAllX]

I've seen them long ago

[LordKombox]

then ken: 2 set wins mango: 1

[XSinDestroyerOfAllX]

No it was 1-1, Hugs took mango out of losers not Ken, maybe you need to watch those sets again and Mango was able to win his set while having less experience and a characters who metagame wasn't as advanced back then against one of jiggs toughest match-ups.

[LordKombox]

i was mentioning sets that were NOT in that tournament. that wasnt hte only time they fought

[XSinDestroyerOfAllX]

Whatever dude Ken quit when M2K raped him so hard it made him quit smash, Mango beat him without even half as much as experience as him, he would get destroyed now (even if he was in his prime) it's obvious and I bet that's the majority of the intelligent peoples opinion, Mango's playing the game now better then its ever been played

[LordKombox]

whatever dude, ken and m2k are friends so i dont know what you're smoking. just stop replying. arguing with you is like trying to argue with a christian about religion. im not gonna waste any more space on this video's comments

[XSinDestroyerOfAllX]

Everyone use those generic lines " trying to argue with a christian about religion" or "I'm flagging this for sexual content" or any comment that compares someone to the special olympics, your typical and generic. And M2K and Ken are not friends Ken's last posts on the boards make that very obvious I don't know why you would say something you have no clue about.

[LordKombox]

last post... xD sure. we'll go with that.

[XSinDestroyerOfAllX]

It was getting old talking to someone so blind that they can't tell how much better players have gotten these days anyway

[LordKombox]

have you even played any of them? let alone been to a tournament?

[XSinDestroyerOfAllX]

Got you to bite after you said "last post" mission accomplished.

[LordKombox]

it was sarcasm, he still goes on. <_< i thought you would have known that.

[intheflame]

dayum, m2ks fox does have a hard time against falco.

[Critica1Acclaim]

pc chris owns all except maybe ken

[Keep701]

Mango and Armada would disagree.

[Zialox]

that king just got sat down

[0ddler]

2:57

Mew2King was like "This shit aint gonna be a JV 3 stock"

PEW

[Reaiota]

hahaha, I thought the same thing

[Exyku]

@0ddler Actually, projectiles don't count as ending JVs'.

[georgequinn111]

hey keylock3 also known as nintend0ganon is playing in this tournament or hes gonna join and i was in 1 of his runescape vids! its a pretty recent one too

[rugoodat23]

get off his dick >_>

[Hornilope]

when was this?

[DonnyZofChaos]

laser at the end to avoid jv3

[BleachFinny]

lol yea i noticed that too

[jungshin87]

pc chris played great this match

but this was before m2k become a smash-god

[StevenZhangPA]

M2K doesnt have the best marth in melee its just better than his fox. Ken is pretty much at the top woth marth

[rugoodat23]

m2k beat ken in marth dittos at oc3

[friggerDrCube]

haha

i love you mewtwoking

[MoogledKupo]

Falco infinite..

[Knockturnnall]

Swimfreak430 I just nominated you for noob of the year.

[TheSizMan]

ive never seen pc so aggressive.

[ruhtraeel]

Mew2King

[Bibouba2]

actually i think mightymo new that , it was a joke xD

[Sherigami]

hahaha my friend thinks hes better with falco than pc chris, yet whenever hes falco(or anybody else for that matter) I 4 stock him. Were going to a tourny next weekend too, and I hope he gets a good taste of reality while were there...

[RhinoFeedingDude]

If anybody thinks they're better than any of these guys, they better be named Ken, KDJ or Aniki.

[swimfreak430]

what do you mean by PC cuz there is no PC version of ssbm

[I514]

uh...thats the guys name, PC Chris...just like how the other guys name is M2K...

[alex34833781]

ur a momo xD

[CoraxTheCold]

im so glad fox (and probably falco if hes in) got the nerf in brawl

[mew2king1]

my fox got a lot better too, i beat PC at super champ combo (sept 30) in fox vs falco barely in tourney on this stage, but the entire match was even and he usually wins the friendlies in that, but overall as a player I've gotten way better, and I never stood a chance vs PC back then, I think this was late 05 or early 06, and now it's 08.

[JoeCantic]

Yeah i would like the see the match..

But in this he played with you sorry but damn..

[IShotLazer]

m2k has gotten WAY better since this, PC and m2k right now are pretty much the smash gods at the moment.

[DocSmash]

Hu? Forgot KDJ? Azen?

[sinharvester01]

Azen has not played on the competative level for some time. Although his statement was a bit generalized, he is correct that M2K and PC are considered the best currently. No need to respond like so.

[Edge2437]

Has M2K gotten better

[Edge2437]

since this match

[lolomfgwtfbbq]

Lol at PC's name.

[theunruly1]

(1:53) WTF? I didn't know pros were that arrogant. XD

[confusedpork]

Meh, this was back when M2K played as Fox, and therefore didn't have much hope against PC. He must have been pretty happy that he did as well as he did, which was, addmittadly, bad.

I do agree that the pausing was overdoing it a little.

[crimson35124]

nope he always pauses in

[matthewmilad]

I use X, it's better like that. Lol.

[om9999]

can fox be a character really competitive?

[oOpancakes]

hes the best !

[Turtlehoop]

Fox is on the God Tier with Falco. Fox is a very good charcter, but takes a lot of muscle memory and tech to excel with.

[matvprado]

sure O_O

[Justerbuster89]

this vid explains why i hate falco, nice kill by fox at 2:45. And who ever was taping that sucks with the camera.

[Scarletarabesque]

As a fox player it seems impossible to short hop with him. and its freaking annoying that i cant shffl cuz the short hop is the only thing im missing from the whole thing. So do any of the other fox players have any tips for me?? I really need to b able to shffl

[Sveet]

just practice and press the button as fast as u can. there is no magic way to do it, you just have to increase your speed.

[matvprado]

gegin with easier characteers and go to the harder ones slowly

[phatassnig]

what? theres an easy character? 0.o

[coolcwer]

pros use the control stick to jump...

Well SERIOUSLY, they would probably use the X button, maybe Y, but Y is awkward for me

[TotoroTheTororo]

I'm pretty sure most of the pros jump with Y because you can press A easily without moving your thumb

[SirAqUit]

BS is better than PC Chris, But both are pros =D

[sickplayer]

I'm sure of it. As we both know every smash player is waiting for brawl especially me.

[DylanKeywizRad]

*cough* Bombsoldier 17th, Pc chris #1. GG. BS is good though, just not as great as you would think. He looks great but theres more too it than just pushing the offensive in smash, theres the intellectual side.

[matthewmilad]

PC > BS

[theonejanitor]

you know something i've noticed. PC Chris is a shitty edgeguarder.

but i guess it doesn't matter, he's still one of the best in the world.

[matthewmilad]

lol

[NKOITH]

Can any1 tell me what button the pros use to jump (x or y) ive been looking everywhere but i cant find anything. Please reply to this video if you know anything (by reply, i mean clicking reply on my response, not just saying somthing)

Thanks,

NKOITH

[TehD00de]

I'm the best in Alaska and I use X personally ^_^x

most pros use Y though because it's easier to do the slide input function when they need to get to the B button faster... can't do that too good with X lol

[itlnsqrl]

lol fox looked stoned when they paused it

[NKOITH]

PC chris has always been my favorite falco player. hands down.

[kogababe]

Edge hogging is so cheap.

[Rellics]

You fail

[NusCirtap42888]

Yes let us give advice to pc chris. This match is old and both players are better now.

[FlipNautix]

Just a tip for the Falco.

Instead of doing forward smash when Fox is Foxfiring toward the map (ex. 01:39), a short hop pillar at the edge might work better.

[friggerDrCube]

lol

short hop pillar

[BRGtheNOISE]

lol that fox got pwned

[zuloon]

Lol...Chillin is a wannabe

[WhatBadGod]

"No pausing or you're disqualified."

That was hilarious.

It's always nice seeing a PC Chris match.

[olrappy]

Crazy control.....fox seemed dazed

[krimzonwaffle]

that fox is a crack up, and as for pc chris, i still say bombsoldier is way better

[Rejected]

and they both can rape you.