A FOIA lawsuit forced the Commerce Department to fork over some documents of Cheney’s Energy Task Force documents from March 2001, including a map of Iraqi oilfield, pipelines, refineries, terminals, and potential areas for exploration. There also was a Pentagon chart titled “Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts,” and one chart detailing Iraqi oil and gas projects.Welcome to American democracy and Freedom Oil
Who would be offended by someone pointing out that troops in Vietnam died in vain? That's a fact. They did die in vain. And what's offensive is the fact that was allowed to happen, and that it is still happening, not that someone else pointed it out.
@VoiceOfModeration Gravel doesnt get alot of air time because he says real nutty shit. I kinda like him becaus he speaks like the crazy uncle every1 got.
@SignoroIncognito we didn't kill em, the assholes blowing up every other street corner killed em. thats why we are there in the first place jackass, to hunt down and kill those assholes. yeah, its war, we mighta killed a few. maybe its a good idea to go indoors during a gunfight, eh? do not insult the one country keeping the world from world war 3
Yes- as always young men are dying for old men's greed. It is disgusting that "great nations" settle disputes like infantile school children- brute force.
Those with the greatest taste for war have never seen it- this is why in Europe- having literally being bombed into rubble- and actually toe-to-toe facing the Reds- (not hiding away in Kansas silos or NORAD) we are vigilantly pacifist.
More than 70 million died between 1939-1945. For what?
It is a criminal todays US youth are so imbecilic.
When USA is bombed to rubble and your treasures are stolen by your "liberators" how war hungry will the "home of the brave" be?
Americans love war as they have never taste it.
Despite the tragedy of 9-11 US killed more iraqis than 9-11 victims in the 1st year of occupation alone DESPITE Iraq had no link to it, and al-Qaeada was chased out of Iraq as a threat to Saddam.
Vietnam? 5 million civilians killed. How many years of burning children?
@SignoroIncognito again, learn your facts before you go spewing forth rhetoric like a dennis miller rant (minus the research and facts) and looking like a complete fool. though i do agree that the youth of this country are sadly lacking
Oh the most obvious answer is yes. but thats irrelevant now. Really these presidents should read more about military hisory. As a matter of fact that should be a requiremnt when becoming president.
The US won every single battle in Vietnam. Technically speaking, the Vietcong were wiped out in 1968, after Tet. But thanks to the damm liberal media, they died in vain!
Yeah because in your history we won in vietnam, we were fighting the Nazi's long before England and France got in and of course. Look there are documentaries that say the same thing. And in case you a haven't noticed vietnam is a communist state with one party rule. And how is history being taught here anti U.S.
I am afraid every US history book written at the time paints a very different picture of US leadership incompetence, and under-estimation of a determined and resourceful enemy fighting a war of liberation from a colonial oppressor- be it France or a worse proxy USA.
go tell that to all the iraqi people that welcome us over there, thanking us every day for giving their third world country a chance to vote and choose their leader. a ticket out of poverty. a tangible hope that their family will still be alive when they get off work that day. tell that to them, and tell them that the betterment of their lives isn't worth us fighting for because we are better than them. then tell the iraqis fighting on our side that they dont mean shit. fucking uneducated sloth
Who welcomed USA? Kurds. Turds hated by Iraq, Iran and Turkey (your alley). Even Turkey forbade USA using Turkish facilities to invade Iraq- who it hated.
Christian science Monitor 10 Aug, By Jane Arraf
Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone, deputy comm General US forces in Iraq, and Iraqi counterpart told reporters that insurgents were likely to launch a series of high-profile during Ramadan.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend in the case of Sunni and Shiite Iraqis.
@SignoroIncognito meanwhile, millions of citizens thank us for the right to vote and choose their leader through an election rather than bloody revolt, leading to dictatorship (a right we gave them) and practice that right. their army fights alongside us, their citizens thank us for years of tyrannical hardship ousted. only the ones seeking to benefit from malevolent actions oppose our presence there, and those are the ppl we (along with iraqi soldiers) are at war with, or did u miss that fact?
The same ones you "gifted" with their dictators correct?
Yet still the USA does nothing about the worst regime in the region- Saudi Arabia. Why- it is pliant arms buyer and oil provider- just like Saddam was as per 1983 handshake with Donald Rumsfeld followed by Reagan-eering party times.
I recall Vietnam's warm reception of the USA's "liberation" policies.
It ended with Americans running from NV tanks crashing through the embassy gates as the CIA burned papers like madmen.
the french begged us into vietnam and then bailed out. We should have NEVER been at "war" without a formal war declaration from the US Congress. Not having our Congress declare war left our troops without a goal and exit plan. Congress is to blame for being weak- giving away the power the people entrusted in them to declare war inexchange for a UN "police action." The question should have been "In order to avoid this in the future, will you stand with the Constitution instead of the UN? "
thank you for knowing your shit and the facts behind vietnam. if more people like u and i were out there, or were in charge, vietnam wouldn't be a scar on us, it'd be a scowl at france. and not enough people realize that we won every battle over there, killing somewhere in the ratio of 20 to 1. we left to prevent a war with china and russia...nuclear, ww3...that kinda shit. we stopped it. ur welcome earth
The USA dropped mroe bombs on Vietnam than the total amount dropped by Allies and Axis in World War 2 in Operation Linebacker alone- and you still got chased out by "gooks".
You lost to the better team. US poor sportsmanship rears is ugly head again.
@SignoroIncognito yeah, we did drop a lotta bombs, but chased out? ur completely fucking ignorant and uneducated, and im not even going to bother getting into it with you
there was never a clear goal or exit plan they are just looking for a way to leave and save face and not look like cowards in the worlds eyes cause we fight every war that out there its almost like we just cant relax for a sec and get our shit together its like coming into money and family has their hands out looking for help constantly america is trying to be super save a nation
informational prison detained by ignorance and ample ways of being abused - and - raped thanks to our Anti Christ police' That want us to bow down and kiss our freedoms goodbye you that say i am a lunatic just wait tell it's your pretty doughtier that's detained raped and the ultimately killed from the absolute power syndrome" Your rules are the future prisons in our own minds. Your daughter lost her passport shes held and they see how pretty she is and deter
The reason why soldiers "died in vain" in Vietnam was because we went under false pretenses. You have to understand what happened in the gulf of tonkin.
go old man. like ron paul, if nothing else you got to say something bold about our troops needlessly dying in a completely devastating and bull-shit war. And at least in some of the early debates a few candidates had the balls to lay it out about the war and a few got to hear it. Change of perception is critical now...
First of all I'd like to point out that I live in Asia and have been to Hanoi on several occasions and I am almost certain their is no Baskin and Robbins in Hanoi or anywhere in Vietnam. Vietnam and Cambodia are very sparce when it comes to American Franchises compared to the rest of Asia, and also ... people are not allowed outside in vietnam after 11:30 PM (OF COURSE AS A FOREIGNER WE CAN JUST BRIBE PATROL MEN) ... It seems Mike Gravel does not have a clue what he is talking about.
hmmm so they think that they know every single detail of war and have the knowledge to make a military decision? They have no clue how ignorant they are to the operations that go on that is not allowed to be brodcasted on T.V. .... use some common sense
how is she a lesbian? i'd rather be a democrat and be for peace then be some war pig republican who only cares about oil profits. u ever notice how when a democrat is in office, the economy usually does really well. and u notice how we've had recessions whenever there has been a republican in office? that should tell you something. democrats keep the future in mind while republicans just care about the moment.
how is she a lesbian? i'd rather be a democrat and be for peace then be some war pig republican who only cares about oil profits. u ever notice how when a democrat is in office, the economy usually does really well. and u notice how we've had recessions whenever there has been a republican in office? that should tell you something. democrats keep the future in mind while republicans just care about the moment.
they die in vain. all they are is dust in the wind... it was the same story in vietnam and it still holds true today. it seems like the day will never come when these politicians do what is right instead of what makes them the most money.
@mewtwo150 true, because there was no reason for it- America said that they were fighting to prevent communism which was bull coz they were gettin their asses beaten and if they did win they wouldnt have gained anything
Iraq had nothing to do with 911 they did not attack America but they did start selling their oil in Euros
oh my god and now russia Iran and others are going to do the same
the American dollar is toilet paper.Emperor Disgustus bush is a liar
they hold the economy together with duct tape and plastic until next nov. America lost every war,they have squandered their freedom and now the time for repenting has arrived.
No soldiers die in vain, every one helps to line the pockets of the oligarchic Neo-fascists that are slowly taking over our country...we get less free every four years-look back and see. We have had the same 2 families running things for 20 years and more to come
We are fighting a war on terror... what the hell does that mean? If 9/11 was perpetrated by another country (not just a group of individuals as the story is believed now) we would call it a war on war... so retarded. N now we are in Iraq and moving towards Iran (spoilers Hillary Wins)
"This may refresh your memory...visit this site and type in September 11, 2001"... still, the war mongering fake "conservatives" of the statist right assert that somewhere in their mystical dire hellish paranoid fantasy world, iraq and 9/11 are in in fact related to each other.
Sadam husain dead , Guess why American troops there ?
Also Osama dead ? Guess why American troops in Aghanstan and pakistan ?
Also Now American troops going to force or control in Syria ?
Maybe all of that against islamic nations ?
or to protect Jews in middle east ? when jews have nuclear weapons but that is ok for jew ( jew rights ? , when iran claimed to have nuclear weapons that is risk !
in Fact usa , you always in vain ! so check your goverment to extraction Corruption !
Was any Iraq death worth it? The govt fires a cruise missile into the pentagon and wires both world trade towers with explosives so they can pass the patriot act and invade any country at will.Hail the 50 pentagram conspiracy brainwashing the captive school children with homosexuality and evolution.
why do they always go off topic. yes they died in vain, no they died in vain. did they go to highschool.(elaborate) only obama when into detail in why they DIDN't DIE in vain.
Just imagine had Ronny Raygun decided premptive attack was needed against the USSR as they posed a "real threat" to our security! We would all be dead! Easy to say "all options" are on the table against a country that poses no threat, but if they were saying that about Russia or China, instead of Iran, everyone would think they were insane and never elect them to a public office! They would be what they are-warmongers!
i dont give a fuck about soldiers, soldier's purpose is one thing, kill for his superiors, nothing more. a soldier is worthless and dispensable, what is the real travesty is the millions of innocent vietnamese women and children who died in the war. fuck the soldiers.
i am not even hispanic let alone mexican, besides you should not be calling me that, plenty of "Wetbacks" fought and died for this country through military service, be a little bit more respectful.
I should be more respectful? You fucking Faggot, you respect 3rd world scumbag spics for their service, but not true American soldiers! I hope that one day a soldier who has fought for your freedom over hears your big mouth,liberal,pussy,remarks and takes resentment towards them. and shows you what kind of a "worthless and dispensable" BITCH YOU really are. you've got a lot to learn before YOU,talk about being respectful again.
ARE YOU DEMS CRAZY?....Really glad i watched this one .not a good answer in the bunch. If YOU want real answers for the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA , Try Duncan Hunter presidential canidate.. our best choice
"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power,and teach us,that the less we use our power the greater it will be"........-Thomas Jefferson"-.........I oppologize president jefferson we have failed you.
Obama is a crack smoking nigger by his own admission. And he thinks he is qualified to deal with international affairs because he lived in a foreign country when he was 10 years old. This guy is devoid of common sense and is incapable of thinking on his feet. Next!
You are as ignorant as they come! This world be a better place without a bunch of racist ppl like your self. You can make a political point without using offensive and prejudice terms.
Obama is totally and completely worthless. He talks 360 degrees around every question in a childish attempt to remain neutral. He answers nothing and stands for nothing and is totally egocentric.
swillery,... shes a poitical whore who let willie shit all over her, but hung on for political gain. she cant manage her own house, but wants to try and manage the white house. and in turn, all of ours. what a swine!
thats a tuff ass question, but i think sayin that aren't troops dyin in vain is a cop-out. da whole war was hollow fake n affected american families n iraqi families, it devestated dem 4 losin dere loved ones 4 no good reason. but on da otha hand war is war, only meant 2 kill people. if u in da army u kno dat u puttin ur life on da line 4 ur country, but wen ur country is so careless of life 2wards dere own even, then i still say they died in vain.
all i really want to point out and every news station should run a story on is how the CFR memebership trade the mic and mention only each other,Obama is second to speak of an issue mike gravel has just commented on and the first name to come out of his mouth is Clinton.Mitt too all he says is Guilliani..gotta had it to the lobby party they have 8 horses in this race and the over seas funding is to sweet a honey pot to give up just yet the nation still has a little wealth left.
to illegalztakingover: I always spoke up against racist shit like "Dirty Mexicans" and that you guys weren't good for anything but mowing our lawns and shit like that but now that i saw this message...I'll do all i can to get you ppl to the deportation office. You just disgraced your whole race with what you just said
The weak and unrealistic positions these candidates take are the very reason I left the Democratic party. Mr 'Died in vain' can take his loser attitude and go undermine some other country's future.
Grovel (don't know the spelling) is right and has the MOST BALLS! This, of course, is the reason why he doesn't stand a chance. What a shame. You can't get a YES or NO out of anyone else but Grovel! Isn't that the kind of leader we need?
lol!! wow no wonder every1 hates you guys...Thats y every1s doing all they can do keep you guys out. Thats why we're putting up 12 foot tall walls and video cameras and guards at our borders. And you guys arent taking our jobs. Rofl you guys are waiting by the street to clean our houses and mow or lawns for 5 bucks an hour. Sad...
I always spoke up against racist shit like "Dirty Mexicans" and ppl saying that you were only good for things like yardwork and all that but now that i saw this message...I'll do all i can to get you ppl to the deportation office. You just disgraced your whole race with what you just said
How stupid are you people? Don't you see that it's some right-winger posing as a Mexican illegal in order to smear Obama? What kind of illegal would ever say something like that? You people are pretty damn gullible.
who supports the vietnam war? i do Not Now or did i ever...everything about what happen in vietnam is shady illegal and what the hell is up with ..the illegal war in iraq..all the lies told to get us into war and we are still there building bases and sighning aggreements that would continue to bleed this nation ..
we should care what americans think..its sad that the people think vietnam was still to fight communism.when it was to continue a colony of the french indo china company.Thats whats happening to our world..its the same old story ..evil greedy money changers,same thing as when jesus threw the tax men out of the temple.
I think is would be unresponsable of us to just pack up and leave because we all know that many innocent people would be left at risk and things would be left wide open for Osama or worse yet, Saudi Arabia to move right in and take over. There is such a big picture here and we are the only ones who can do the job.
You know our president and congress approved going to war with the intelligence they had. It turned out to be wrong in many areas. There are many people responsable for the war that is going on. What we need to do is finish what has been started in the most responsable way we are able.
The intelligence was manufactured by a SINGLE source. Colin Powell resigned as a result of this. Bush and Cheney wanted oil and thought this war would be a cakewalk. We will be in Iraq for the next 50 years, just like Korea and not a shot has been fired there since 1945. If we leave, oil goes to $200/bbl because Iran takes over!
Get your facts straight. She was presented with the same fabricated bullshit from Bush as the rest of Congress - "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction". Bush KNEW that if he let the inspectors finish the job, they would find nothing, then we could not invade. Bush, Cheney / Halliburten wanted the Iraq oil fields and that is all there is to it.
That's just hype... Bush fabricated. No proof, and nothing more than liberal propaganda. UK, Germany, France, Israel, all said WMD was there. She's just backing down because the war isn't popular. She did vote for it and "promoted" the war. Watch some of her excerpts on youtube and get YOUR fact straight. Watch what she said about Iraq before 9/11.
Obama is incapable of answering ANY question directly. The last thing we need is elitist nigger politics in the White House. Things are bad enough with this idiot dictating "decider" we now have in charge. He never should have been in office from day one.
Idiots like GNRRAWKS and altoidyoda have zero grasp of the facts and therefore should bow out of any debate. And never mind voting since you are so worthless and uniformed.
I am NOT debating you. Debating with an ill informed idiot is totally futile. Now that you have labeled yourself as a conservative, you have admitted that you are a Bush loving jackass. All conservatives need to ship out to Iraq as they are the only dumb jackasses that want that fight. It is just amazing how many stupid people there are in this country that have absolutely no clue whatsoever how this President has sold us so far down the river we may never be able to recover.
Are the troops dying in vain?
Yes, they've all died in vain, dumb question.
treetard31 1 month ago
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A FOIA lawsuit forced the Commerce Department to fork over some documents of Cheney’s Energy Task Force documents from March 2001, including a map of Iraqi oilfield, pipelines, refineries, terminals, and potential areas for exploration. There also was a Pentagon chart titled “Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts,” and one chart detailing Iraqi oil and gas projects.Welcome to American democracy and Freedom Oil
shadowofears 6 months ago
Who would be offended by someone pointing out that troops in Vietnam died in vain? That's a fact. They did die in vain. And what's offensive is the fact that was allowed to happen, and that it is still happening, not that someone else pointed it out.
watermelonygoodness 9 months ago
0:45 Gravel gave a bang on answer!
Why are the soliders dieing for nothing?
Baskin Robbins? Bullshit!
gundamWWW 10 months ago
Every one just walked around that question except mike gravel.
j187killa 1 year ago
he seems a bit senile...how come i havent even heard of this guy until now, 3 yrs later..
VoiceOfModeration 1 year ago
@VoiceOfModeration Gravel doesnt get alot of air time because he says real nutty shit. I kinda like him becaus he speaks like the crazy uncle every1 got.
j187killa 1 year ago
Those with nothing to lose and everything to gain send those with nothing to gain and everything to lose to war.
bradjbourgeois73 1 year ago
obama always answers his own questions no matter what asked; is he stupid or just a politician?
TheHardMoneyMan 1 year ago
The question should be, "was all the money, effort, and lives lost, worth toppling Saddam's dictatorship?"
LeadOnWiseMan 1 year ago
Iraq was neccessary, vietnam was neccessary, and now Afganistan is neccessary.
Gunner21101 1 year ago
iraqbodycount(dot)org
97,100 civilians dead since US Freedom Invasion.
Be proud USA. You now rank beside Mao and Stalin.
I am sure the Iraqis won't forget to repay your liberation.
SignoroIncognito 1 year ago
@SignoroIncognito we didn't kill em, the assholes blowing up every other street corner killed em. thats why we are there in the first place jackass, to hunt down and kill those assholes. yeah, its war, we mighta killed a few. maybe its a good idea to go indoors during a gunfight, eh? do not insult the one country keeping the world from world war 3
catf1sh1812 1 year ago
Yes- as always young men are dying for old men's greed. It is disgusting that "great nations" settle disputes like infantile school children- brute force.
Those with the greatest taste for war have never seen it- this is why in Europe- having literally being bombed into rubble- and actually toe-to-toe facing the Reds- (not hiding away in Kansas silos or NORAD) we are vigilantly pacifist.
More than 70 million died between 1939-1945. For what?
It is a criminal todays US youth are so imbecilic.
SignoroIncognito 1 year ago
@SignoroIncognito its called tactics
catf1sh1812 1 year ago
@catf1sh1812
When USA is bombed to rubble and your treasures are stolen by your "liberators" how war hungry will the "home of the brave" be?
Americans love war as they have never taste it.
Despite the tragedy of 9-11 US killed more iraqis than 9-11 victims in the 1st year of occupation alone DESPITE Iraq had no link to it, and al-Qaeada was chased out of Iraq as a threat to Saddam.
Vietnam? 5 million civilians killed. How many years of burning children?
1963-1976. 13yrs of murder.
Be proud USA.
SignoroIncognito 1 year ago
@SignoroIncognito again, learn your facts before you go spewing forth rhetoric like a dennis miller rant (minus the research and facts) and looking like a complete fool. though i do agree that the youth of this country are sadly lacking
catf1sh1812 1 year ago
@catf1sh1812
What facts do you disagree with?
That Saddam Huseein had expelled and persecuted al Qaeda?
Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11?
Iraq obeyed international law and complied with destroying its WMD?
US invasion of Iraq remains illegal under Int Law?
Vietnam did not last 13 years and 5 million Vietnamese were not killed by war the US if not started, escalated?
Near all the 9-11 terrorists were Saudis- who the US still keenly bends over to?
Osama bin Laden is a Saudi and related to Faud?
SignoroIncognito 1 year ago
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why are people sending their children to fight the war...you dont see the freemasons send their children OR THE QUREEN!!! WAKE UP
when will you get YOUR FUCKING CLAW OFF other nations resources??
AbortedBabysInMakeUp 1 year ago
Oh the most obvious answer is yes. but thats irrelevant now. Really these presidents should read more about military hisory. As a matter of fact that should be a requiremnt when becoming president.
slicingwater 2 years ago
The US won every single battle in Vietnam. Technically speaking, the Vietcong were wiped out in 1968, after Tet. But thanks to the damm liberal media, they died in vain!
ntn1987 2 years ago
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Muneeb911 2 years ago
@ntn1987
The US didn't achieve it's goal in Vietnam and that's all that matters.
Muneeb911 2 years ago
To you that would be true, but to the rest of us who paid attention in History class that is so false.
slicingwater 2 years ago
You have been learning the wrong history. The history that is being taught in high school and university is liberal-minded and anti-US.
ntn1987 2 years ago
Yeah because in your history we won in vietnam, we were fighting the Nazi's long before England and France got in and of course. Look there are documentaries that say the same thing. And in case you a haven't noticed vietnam is a communist state with one party rule. And how is history being taught here anti U.S.
slicingwater 2 years ago
@ntn1987 If youa ctually attended any University you would see this is far from he case.
US Universities if anything are guilty of the common US virus of US self aggrandizement.
Furthermore- if the USA won Vietnam- why were Americans burning documents like mad when the NVA tanks came crashing through the US embassy gate.
USA has lost every war since 1945. There is a real reason for this- it is more profitable for the military industrial complex.
But most are too ignorant to bother understanding
SignoroIncognito 1 year ago
@ntn1987
I am afraid every US history book written at the time paints a very different picture of US leadership incompetence, and under-estimation of a determined and resourceful enemy fighting a war of liberation from a colonial oppressor- be it France or a worse proxy USA.
SignoroIncognito 1 year ago
The war is a total abuse of this nation and the troops are being put through total HELL!!!! This war is in totally in vain.
musicisasomeandsweet 2 years ago
go tell that to all the iraqi people that welcome us over there, thanking us every day for giving their third world country a chance to vote and choose their leader. a ticket out of poverty. a tangible hope that their family will still be alive when they get off work that day. tell that to them, and tell them that the betterment of their lives isn't worth us fighting for because we are better than them. then tell the iraqis fighting on our side that they dont mean shit. fucking uneducated sloth
catf1sh1812 2 years ago
@catf1sh1812
Who welcomed USA? Kurds. Turds hated by Iraq, Iran and Turkey (your alley). Even Turkey forbade USA using Turkish facilities to invade Iraq- who it hated.
Christian science Monitor 10 Aug, By Jane Arraf
Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone, deputy comm General US forces in Iraq, and Iraqi counterpart told reporters that insurgents were likely to launch a series of high-profile during Ramadan.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend in the case of Sunni and Shiite Iraqis.
They want US out. Y'day
SignoroIncognito 1 year ago
@SignoroIncognito meanwhile, millions of citizens thank us for the right to vote and choose their leader through an election rather than bloody revolt, leading to dictatorship (a right we gave them) and practice that right. their army fights alongside us, their citizens thank us for years of tyrannical hardship ousted. only the ones seeking to benefit from malevolent actions oppose our presence there, and those are the ppl we (along with iraqi soldiers) are at war with, or did u miss that fact?
catf1sh1812 1 year ago
@catf1sh1812
The same ones you "gifted" with their dictators correct?
Yet still the USA does nothing about the worst regime in the region- Saudi Arabia. Why- it is pliant arms buyer and oil provider- just like Saddam was as per 1983 handshake with Donald Rumsfeld followed by Reagan-eering party times.
I recall Vietnam's warm reception of the USA's "liberation" policies.
It ended with Americans running from NV tanks crashing through the embassy gates as the CIA burned papers like madmen.
SignoroIncognito 1 year ago
@catf1sh1812
Dude, you are sooo wrong. Even the Iraq citizens hate us. We butted in where we didn't belong, for no good reason.
MadSpaceCow 1 year ago
The truth is that old men start wars and young men die in them.
Hotwatty 2 years ago
the french begged us into vietnam and then bailed out. We should have NEVER been at "war" without a formal war declaration from the US Congress. Not having our Congress declare war left our troops without a goal and exit plan. Congress is to blame for being weak- giving away the power the people entrusted in them to declare war inexchange for a UN "police action." The question should have been "In order to avoid this in the future, will you stand with the Constitution instead of the UN? "
lachicka7 2 years ago
thank you for knowing your shit and the facts behind vietnam. if more people like u and i were out there, or were in charge, vietnam wouldn't be a scar on us, it'd be a scowl at france. and not enough people realize that we won every battle over there, killing somewhere in the ratio of 20 to 1. we left to prevent a war with china and russia...nuclear, ww3...that kinda shit. we stopped it. ur welcome earth
catf1sh1812 2 years ago
@catf1sh1812
The USA dropped mroe bombs on Vietnam than the total amount dropped by Allies and Axis in World War 2 in Operation Linebacker alone- and you still got chased out by "gooks".
You lost to the better team. US poor sportsmanship rears is ugly head again.
SignoroIncognito 1 year ago
@SignoroIncognito yeah, we did drop a lotta bombs, but chased out? ur completely fucking ignorant and uneducated, and im not even going to bother getting into it with you
catf1sh1812 1 year ago
there was never a clear goal or exit plan they are just looking for a way to leave and save face and not look like cowards in the worlds eyes cause we fight every war that out there its almost like we just cant relax for a sec and get our shit together its like coming into money and family has their hands out looking for help constantly america is trying to be super save a nation
wreckdirect 2 years ago
informational prison detained by ignorance and ample ways of being abused - and - raped thanks to our Anti Christ police' That want us to bow down and kiss our freedoms goodbye you that say i am a lunatic just wait tell it's your pretty doughtier that's detained raped and the ultimately killed from the absolute power syndrome" Your rules are the future prisons in our own minds. Your daughter lost her passport shes held and they see how pretty she is and deter
TheSeaMyst 2 years ago
main she is a terrorist and do whatever they want to her I am ashamed of you all.
TheSeaMyst 2 years ago
yes they r
bowled88 2 years ago
angry old fart man.
12valvepower1 2 years ago
vietnam is communist still old man.
we died for no reason. old man is old angry fart
12valvepower1 2 years ago 3
The reason why soldiers "died in vain" in Vietnam was because we went under false pretenses. You have to understand what happened in the gulf of tonkin.
PVJared 2 years ago
what the fuck
McCLAX13 3 years ago
scum bucket!!
Macanic5 3 years ago
go old man. like ron paul, if nothing else you got to say something bold about our troops needlessly dying in a completely devastating and bull-shit war. And at least in some of the early debates a few candidates had the balls to lay it out about the war and a few got to hear it. Change of perception is critical now...
ryanranger 3 years ago
fuck bush go OBAMA
wolfff01x 3 years ago
First of all I'd like to point out that I live in Asia and have been to Hanoi on several occasions and I am almost certain their is no Baskin and Robbins in Hanoi or anywhere in Vietnam. Vietnam and Cambodia are very sparce when it comes to American Franchises compared to the rest of Asia, and also ... people are not allowed outside in vietnam after 11:30 PM (OF COURSE AS A FOREIGNER WE CAN JUST BRIBE PATROL MEN) ... It seems Mike Gravel does not have a clue what he is talking about.
lion575 3 years ago
# Baskin-Robbins I
20 Ngo Quyen St; Tel: 8252658
# Baskin-Robbins II
15C-K40 Giang Vo St Tel: 8252658
or maybe he does.
driubi 3 years ago
hmmm so they think that they know every single detail of war and have the knowledge to make a military decision? They have no clue how ignorant they are to the operations that go on that is not allowed to be brodcasted on T.V. .... use some common sense
coolbeans725 3 years ago 2
how is she a lesbian? i'd rather be a democrat and be for peace then be some war pig republican who only cares about oil profits. u ever notice how when a democrat is in office, the economy usually does really well. and u notice how we've had recessions whenever there has been a republican in office? that should tell you something. democrats keep the future in mind while republicans just care about the moment.
hogger129 3 years ago
how is she a lesbian? i'd rather be a democrat and be for peace then be some war pig republican who only cares about oil profits. u ever notice how when a democrat is in office, the economy usually does really well. and u notice how we've had recessions whenever there has been a republican in office? that should tell you something. democrats keep the future in mind while republicans just care about the moment.
hogger129 3 years ago
wow..... a democrat.... that SPEAKS THE TRUTH!!! amazing!!
steveinamerica 3 years ago
they die in vain. all they are is dust in the wind... it was the same story in vietnam and it still holds true today. it seems like the day will never come when these politicians do what is right instead of what makes them the most money.
hogger129 3 years ago
Gravel is explosive. Obama is boring.
DeAnte85 3 years ago 2
they did die in vain
mewtwo150 4 years ago 22
@mewtwo150 true, because there was no reason for it- America said that they were fighting to prevent communism which was bull coz they were gettin their asses beaten and if they did win they wouldnt have gained anything
adzbxr1 1 year ago
Iraq had nothing to do with 911 they did not attack America but they did start selling their oil in Euros
oh my god and now russia Iran and others are going to do the same
the American dollar is toilet paper.Emperor Disgustus bush is a liar
they hold the economy together with duct tape and plastic until next nov. America lost every war,they have squandered their freedom and now the time for repenting has arrived.
good luck with that
dave777blaster 4 years ago
the troops are dying for the terrorist state Nazi Israel
0bamaBinLaden 4 years ago
No soldiers die in vain, every one helps to line the pockets of the oligarchic Neo-fascists that are slowly taking over our country...we get less free every four years-look back and see. We have had the same 2 families running things for 20 years and more to come
Aufhetzer 4 years ago 2
4 years of sr.bush, 8 of clinton,8 of dildo, potentially 8 of clinton again and then if she wins as a woman it sets up the bush twins...
Aufhetzer 4 years ago
We are fighting a war on terror... what the hell does that mean? If 9/11 was perpetrated by another country (not just a group of individuals as the story is believed now) we would call it a war on war... so retarded. N now we are in Iraq and moving towards Iran (spoilers Hillary Wins)
vanhadyz 4 years ago
I dunno what the american troops are doing in Iraq...
lena4player5 4 years ago 19
This may refresh your memory...visit this site and type in September 11, 2001
acotch 4 years ago
nice...
abomb199 4 years ago
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 man?
That was Bin Laden in Afghanistan.
Your troops are in Iraq because your government said it had weapons of mass destruction, which later was debunked.
Also, the reason he said in vain is because there is no gain for the american people.
I hope you guys wake up real soon.
Djeezes 4 years ago
Fucking idiot.
IIHammerOfJusticeIII 4 years ago
"This may refresh your memory...visit this site and type in September 11, 2001"... still, the war mongering fake "conservatives" of the statist right assert that somewhere in their mystical dire hellish paranoid fantasy world, iraq and 9/11 are in in fact related to each other.
ProprietorOfSelf 3 years ago
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AraB1aNAsSaSsiN 7 months ago
@lena4player5
Sadam husain dead , Guess why American troops there ?
Also Osama dead ? Guess why American troops in Aghanstan and pakistan ?
Also Now American troops going to force or control in Syria ?
Maybe all of that against islamic nations ?
or to protect Jews in middle east ? when jews have nuclear weapons but that is ok for jew ( jew rights ? , when iran claimed to have nuclear weapons that is risk !
in Fact usa , you always in vain ! so check your goverment to extraction Corruption !
AraB1aNAsSaSsiN 7 months ago
Was any Iraq death worth it? The govt fires a cruise missile into the pentagon and wires both world trade towers with explosives so they can pass the patriot act and invade any country at will.Hail the 50 pentagram conspiracy brainwashing the captive school children with homosexuality and evolution.
YaOkRight 4 years ago
why do they always go off topic. yes they died in vain, no they died in vain. did they go to highschool.(elaborate) only obama when into detail in why they DIDN't DIE in vain.
heirr 4 years ago
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Just imagine had Ronny Raygun decided premptive attack was needed against the USSR as they posed a "real threat" to our security! We would all be dead! Easy to say "all options" are on the table against a country that poses no threat, but if they were saying that about Russia or China, instead of Iran, everyone would think they were insane and never elect them to a public office! They would be what they are-warmongers!
poysfxom 4 years ago
Gravel is the man
They Grovel Before Gravel
gabecollett 4 years ago
Word
whatwouldusaydmb4 4 years ago
dont hangout in texas
no country for old men
gabecollett 4 years ago
i dont give a fuck about soldiers, soldier's purpose is one thing, kill for his superiors, nothing more. a soldier is worthless and dispensable, what is the real travesty is the millions of innocent vietnamese women and children who died in the war. fuck the soldiers.
XIPM3 4 years ago
tragedy*
XIPM3 4 years ago
xwimp3; Fuck you, tango.
mizko1 4 years ago
puedes chupar mis cojones pendejo.
XIPM3 4 years ago
I know you'd like that faggot, but thats what your cumbucket mother does best. BITCH!
mizko1 4 years ago
who is the gay one, the one suckin or the one getting sucked?
XIPM3 4 years ago
You, wetback Bitch!
mizko1 4 years ago
i am not even hispanic let alone mexican, besides you should not be calling me that, plenty of "Wetbacks" fought and died for this country through military service, be a little bit more respectful.
XIPM3 4 years ago
I should be more respectful? You fucking Faggot, you respect 3rd world scumbag spics for their service, but not true American soldiers! I hope that one day a soldier who has fought for your freedom over hears your big mouth,liberal,pussy,remarks and takes resentment towards them. and shows you what kind of a "worthless and dispensable" BITCH YOU really are. you've got a lot to learn before YOU,talk about being respectful again.
mizko1 4 years ago
you are the kind of solider who doesnt need any place in any successful organization
gabecollett 4 years ago
Your liberal pussy opinion = irrelevancy
mizko1 4 years ago
Racist fucker.
epirawr 4 years ago
Your MOMMA!
mizko1 4 years ago
Gravel smart man.
Barack is very evasive on every question.
Salvatrucho213 4 years ago 2
mike gravel is awesome.
luxfero 4 years ago 3
ARE YOU DEMS CRAZY?....Really glad i watched this one .not a good answer in the bunch. If YOU want real answers for the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA , Try Duncan Hunter presidential canidate.. our best choice
LILGEO3 4 years ago
"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power,and teach us,that the less we use our power the greater it will be"........-Thomas Jefferson"-.........I oppologize president jefferson we have failed you.
bar730 4 years ago
well , they didnt/dont die in vain.
Control of oil flow is kinda not in vain...
Having a base on a stratetgic place is not in vain...
KLbrezhnev 4 years ago
Obama is a crack smoking nigger by his own admission. And he thinks he is qualified to deal with international affairs because he lived in a foreign country when he was 10 years old. This guy is devoid of common sense and is incapable of thinking on his feet. Next!
metroman 4 years ago
You are as ignorant as they come! This world be a better place without a bunch of racist ppl like your self. You can make a political point without using offensive and prejudice terms.
PRinCessKoRii 4 years ago
Obama is totally and completely worthless. He talks 360 degrees around every question in a childish attempt to remain neutral. He answers nothing and stands for nothing and is totally egocentric.
metroman 4 years ago
swillery,... shes a poitical whore who let willie shit all over her, but hung on for political gain. she cant manage her own house, but wants to try and manage the white house. and in turn, all of ours. what a swine!
mizko1 4 years ago
**grovel
also, is it just me or does edwards answer every question with a question? and a rhetorical one too.
killmequickly327 4 years ago
i think the host is very biased. and yes it is unfair gravel doesn't get enough time or questions. i'd like to see more of his views.
killmequickly327 4 years ago
On, Ron Paul.
You'll be hard-pressed to not be moved both logically and emotionally by his rational.
Ron Paul is a smart man who is not moved by politics as everyone else is, but by the constitution, civil liberties, and true patriotism.
RonPaul4Pres2k8 4 years ago
Ron Paul is just another rank and file Republican, but he is smart enough to hide behind the constitution as a way to gain support.
Showbot 4 years ago
Go Huck Go. The GOP has finally found a candidate who can deliver the oval office. Knock them out cold.
Go Huck Go.
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DelinquentBill 4 years ago
I hope they are asked this question again, and can only reply with a Yes or No.
natbedfor 4 years ago
"When I am President of the United States..."
When!?
Arrogance.
epirawr 4 years ago
thats a tuff ass question, but i think sayin that aren't troops dyin in vain is a cop-out. da whole war was hollow fake n affected american families n iraqi families, it devestated dem 4 losin dere loved ones 4 no good reason. but on da otha hand war is war, only meant 2 kill people. if u in da army u kno dat u puttin ur life on da line 4 ur country, but wen ur country is so careless of life 2wards dere own even, then i still say they died in vain.
DPcity 4 years ago
Go Gravel!.. I hope the rest of the candidates dont hire some one to kill you as they have done to poeple who speek the truth in the past.
pchcruzer 4 years ago 3
coulter was right, edwards is a fag! as matter of fact thats an understatement. even that bitch al franken could slap him around!
mizko1 4 years ago
HILLARY LOOKS SO SEXY
bigmac2005 4 years ago
"My name is John and I'm from WV"
Nobody cares fag. Focus on what is important.
mewtwo150 4 years ago
that took....1 second and what's wrong with introducing yourself? it's common courtesy.
killmequickly327 4 years ago
all i really want to point out and every news station should run a story on is how the CFR memebership trade the mic and mention only each other,Obama is second to speak of an issue mike gravel has just commented on and the first name to come out of his mouth is Clinton.Mitt too all he says is Guilliani..gotta had it to the lobby party they have 8 horses in this race and the over seas funding is to sweet a honey pot to give up just yet the nation still has a little wealth left.
YadaYadaguy 4 years ago
The Gravel grovel's gravity is growing
anwealde 4 years ago 2
lol...good one. hahhaa
motomonstrosity 4 years ago
Grovel so crazy!
ijebusjebus 4 years ago
to illegalztakingover: I always spoke up against racist shit like "Dirty Mexicans" and that you guys weren't good for anything but mowing our lawns and shit like that but now that i saw this message...I'll do all i can to get you ppl to the deportation office. You just disgraced your whole race with what you just said
bobbyjoe110 4 years ago
grovel keeps it real
IEatYoBabies 4 years ago
GROVEL JUST SPANKED YOU SON! why are people so scared of terrorists and commies wtf bunch of paranoid nutcases
IEatYoBabies 4 years ago
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Check out Endgame North American Union on youtube. It's about the u.s. canada and mexico merging together
RAMIL3000 4 years ago
The weak and unrealistic positions these candidates take are the very reason I left the Democratic party. Mr 'Died in vain' can take his loser attitude and go undermine some other country's future.
Goohuman 4 years ago
Clinton look like a complete idiot at 1:48. It matches the idiot she really is.
moviesthtrock101 4 years ago
and who she married!
mizko1 4 years ago
oh yeah, and her voter base!
mizko1 4 years ago
Grovel (don't know the spelling) is right and has the MOST BALLS! This, of course, is the reason why he doesn't stand a chance. What a shame. You can't get a YES or NO out of anyone else but Grovel! Isn't that the kind of leader we need?
keithurena303 4 years ago 2
Obama choked....
evil188 4 years ago
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Obama will help us illegal aliens to get bigger houses
then you lazy white trash Americans have. We are the
STRONG people and we deserve to have more than you
lazy Americans. Our beautiful Mexicans sons and
daughters will grow up LEGAL and take YOUR FAT AND
LAZY CHILDREN'S JOBS!! You fatties SNOOZED AND NOW YOU
WILL LOSE! I spit on your flag...long live MEXICO!!! Thanks for the free medical care for my 6 children, seriously, we really appreciate that.
IllegalzTakingOver 4 years ago
That's not very nice. I hope this is not the type of people that will populate the United States.
timevictory 4 years ago
lol!! wow no wonder every1 hates you guys...Thats y every1s doing all they can do keep you guys out. Thats why we're putting up 12 foot tall walls and video cameras and guards at our borders. And you guys arent taking our jobs. Rofl you guys are waiting by the street to clean our houses and mow or lawns for 5 bucks an hour. Sad...
bobbyjoe110 4 years ago
I always spoke up against racist shit like "Dirty Mexicans" and ppl saying that you were only good for things like yardwork and all that but now that i saw this message...I'll do all i can to get you ppl to the deportation office. You just disgraced your whole race with what you just said
bobbyjoe110 4 years ago
How stupid are you people? Don't you see that it's some right-winger posing as a Mexican illegal in order to smear Obama? What kind of illegal would ever say something like that? You people are pretty damn gullible.
gavrilo2007 4 years ago 4
Edwards is starting to redeem himself. This race is gonna get interesting.
mayoandketchup 4 years ago
Edwards is completely right.
raw13620 4 years ago
Wow to not answer the question Obama.
thomasw78 4 years ago 3
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OBAMA is the man
acere1 4 years ago
Obama completely dodged the question here. Not the worst canidate, but not that great either. Democrats for Ron Paul!
ScarletandCreme32 4 years ago
go obama
projektmachineshop 4 years ago
wow! that really got grampas pantys in a knot!
mizko1 4 years ago 2
FUCK SQUIRRLES!~!!!!!!!!!*.*
IEATU95 4 years ago
FUCK SQIERRLS!!
!!!!1
IEATU95 4 years ago
if i could vote i would vote for obama
aaroncauthon3 4 years ago
I'm sure that's what you do...career cocksucker.
metroman 4 years ago
who supports the vietnam war? i do Not Now or did i ever...everything about what happen in vietnam is shady illegal and what the hell is up with ..the illegal war in iraq..all the lies told to get us into war and we are still there building bases and sighning aggreements that would continue to bleed this nation ..
YadaYadaguy 4 years ago
Who cares what these dopes think? VOTE RON PAUL!!!!!!
heinz454 4 years ago
we should care what americans think..its sad that the people think vietnam was still to fight communism.when it was to continue a colony of the french indo china company.Thats whats happening to our world..its the same old story ..evil greedy money changers,same thing as when jesus threw the tax men out of the temple.
YadaYadaguy 4 years ago
Yeah I agree. Imperialism is coming back strong.
zjmorris1 4 years ago
Edwards! Man, you are an idiot!
Ulai777 4 years ago
Clinton is a power hungry, lying cunt. If you cant see that you are not smart enough to wipe your own ass
WildBill707 4 years ago
fuck everyone else
GO HILDOG!!
WOOF WOOF WOOF!!!
cattthemuban 4 years ago
Barack sounds like he's ready to start some wars if he's prez
drone15 4 years ago 3
I like that Gravel, He sticks to his guns.
But Obama? What a weasley way to respond, he didn't even answer the damn question.
FlipFlopBottomley 4 years ago
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Obama is such an asskiss. Never Trust a black Man.:-/
It's really doesn't matter anyway. A 'National Catastrophe'will keep Bush in Office Indefinitely.
SpazzyPower 4 years ago
What the hell did you say? Never trust a black man?! I wish I could hear you tell me that to my face!!!!!!
avocatro 4 years ago
Let me second that IDIOT!
metroman 4 years ago
Obama never answers the damn question. He was asked are the troops dying in vein? The mouth can't answer it.
daron27 4 years ago 5
You nailed it.....exactly right!
metroman 4 years ago
right now, the scramble should be on to see who can be Hillary's running mate. i would be kissing her ass - BIG TIME!
aielojil 4 years ago
Hahaha. Obama is full of crap! Blah blah blah.
megabraddotcom 4 years ago
the guy asking the questions sounds a bit like ray ramano
babeeboy19 4 years ago
Guy's got balls. A straight answer to a straight question.
Unfortunately, it's probably due to the fact that he has virtually no chance of winning the primaries.
skoczzy 4 years ago 2
I think is would be unresponsable of us to just pack up and leave because we all know that many innocent people would be left at risk and things would be left wide open for Osama or worse yet, Saudi Arabia to move right in and take over. There is such a big picture here and we are the only ones who can do the job.
ChgoPrdcer 4 years ago
Iran will take over, not Saudi, if we pull out.
metroman 4 years ago
You know our president and congress approved going to war with the intelligence they had. It turned out to be wrong in many areas. There are many people responsable for the war that is going on. What we need to do is finish what has been started in the most responsable way we are able.
ChgoPrdcer 4 years ago
The intelligence was manufactured by a SINGLE source. Colin Powell resigned as a result of this. Bush and Cheney wanted oil and thought this war would be a cakewalk. We will be in Iraq for the next 50 years, just like Korea and not a shot has been fired there since 1945. If we leave, oil goes to $200/bbl because Iran takes over!
metroman 4 years ago
This guy knows what he's talking about.
Naz18h 4 years ago
Gravel it absolutely right on this. Obama get over it you don't have a chance. You talk a lot but say nothing.
vmedia69 4 years ago
Get your facts straight. She was presented with the same fabricated bullshit from Bush as the rest of Congress - "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction". Bush KNEW that if he let the inspectors finish the job, they would find nothing, then we could not invade. Bush, Cheney / Halliburten wanted the Iraq oil fields and that is all there is to it.
metroman 4 years ago
That's just hype... Bush fabricated. No proof, and nothing more than liberal propaganda. UK, Germany, France, Israel, all said WMD was there. She's just backing down because the war isn't popular. She did vote for it and "promoted" the war. Watch some of her excerpts on youtube and get YOUR fact straight. Watch what she said about Iraq before 9/11.
RobertKlayton 4 years ago
Obama is incapable of answering ANY question directly. The last thing we need is elitist nigger politics in the White House. Things are bad enough with this idiot dictating "decider" we now have in charge. He never should have been in office from day one.
metroman 4 years ago
you fukin rascist jump off a bridge do us all a favor
GNRRAWKS 4 years ago
You know... sometimes it's best to just keep your mouth shut.
altoidyoda 4 years ago
Idiots like GNRRAWKS and altoidyoda have zero grasp of the facts and therefore should bow out of any debate. And never mind voting since you are so worthless and uniformed.
metroman 4 years ago
"The last thing we need is elitist nigger politics in the White House."
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Are those the "facts" that I can't seem to grasp?
You're certainly quick to judge my political status.
Hey, I'm not in a debate with you, I'd prefer not to be. I've learned to avoid people like you.
I'll reiterate: you need to learn to keep your racist opinions to yourself. This is the year 2007, you don't use those words in civilized discussion.
You know... people like you give us conservatives a bad name.
altoidyoda 4 years ago
I am NOT debating you. Debating with an ill informed idiot is totally futile. Now that you have labeled yourself as a conservative, you have admitted that you are a Bush loving jackass. All conservatives need to ship out to Iraq as they are the only dumb jackasses that want that fight. It is just amazing how many stupid people there are in this country that have absolutely no clue whatsoever how this President has sold us so far down the river we may never be able to recover.
metroman 4 years ago