Chess World.net presents: How do we handle the pain of losing #2 Aronian vs Navara example

[pitstainz]

Love this topic KC, you're awesome. Navara definitely has some IRON bollocks to come back and play a great game like this against the leader after 5 grueling, time-consuming losses. The longer the time OTB the more it hurts IMO. I think I take losses even more heavily as I'm just a class player trying to move up the ranks, if I were a NM like some other people in my club I think I could brush it off easier. But then again, I bet Navara was a GREAT loser early in his career...

[proudstr8]

chess is gay

[kwbarr1]

@kingscrusher

I understand. From watching your videos, I've notice that sometimes your chess confidence is very low. For example, after the london classic and dealing with computer users.

How about the next time you lose a big game. Think about all the people you've helped win games because of your videos.

Also, do you ever consider what you do to people when you win? How you make them feel. For every 1-0 there is an 0-1. What about the pain you cause when you win

[cubs12day25]

pi videos!

[ZebraLad112]

nerd

[MrEmanuel1223]

great vid,yeah i can see where in the upper levels of chess each game is very important as to time and money spent[alot of high level players pay for coach and insite info] to get pass the guy in front of you...

[kaewonf8]

A bit ADD this video, cycling between player's psych, then tournament, a few game moves, back to tournament, few more moves, then more psych... I prefer to concentrate on one or the other, but that's me.

[polishchess]

Hi, Love the channel big time! I think this kouluampuja96 chappy is not being realistic about trying to bannish psychology from chess. Chess, like any other competitive game or sport is ALL ABOUT PSYCHOLOGY. what we call being in or out of 'form' is pure psychology and confidence is at the centre of that. If I lose games that I shouldn't - by blunders when I was in winning positions - it eats away inside. I tend to lose more games following. Question - how to regain that confidence?

[kingscrusher]

@polishchess He must be talking about his bullet chess played on Yahoo or something I guess. In OTB chess and especially FIDE rated games that take a day, the pyschological war is started the day before - trying to find weaknesses and strengths in the opponent and trying to find weaknesses in their pet lines etc. In world championship matches, the psychological war is prepared months before I guess. Gelfand must have been preparing all this time for the weaknesses an strengths of Anand.

[mcclurify]

Kc you should ask for likes, i forget sometimes and i think its a good way to get a bigger audience for your great videos

[NORTHSORROW]

Great stuff...i love your videos man,be ready for tough game someday !

[kwbarr1]

kingscrusher just do you, know what I'm saying. Win some loss some...yada yada

[kingscrusher]

@kwbarr1 But I am referring to where time investment is high - not just online casual blitz games. In those, there is no pain. I am talking about very long games of chess - OTB FIDE for example, or just OTB club games.

[Chessfan86]

That was really a great game of Navara.

He played absolute precisely.

n1.

[houmscik]

Navara played a great game...well done David

[Cemre2011]

Oops, sorry didnt see the link in the description.

[Cemre2011]

Could some one tell me the link of his video annotation please.

Thanks.

[kouluampuja96]

this psychology aspect of chess is BS. thinking about previous wins gets u overly optimistic and thinking about losses gets u too pessimistic and then u want to think about positions and u get carried away and your opponent gets optimistic because u have gotten pessimistic/optimistic and that is why u win or lose. this is absolute nonsense.

[BabsonTask]

@kouluampuja96

It's not nonsense at all. Read the autobiographies of any of Karpov/Korchnoi/Kasparov,for example. Each of them discuss psychological aspects of chess and how it impacts them in matches and tournaments. Of course, they are only 3 of the strongest players of all time and you're some guy on the internet - so what would they know about it?

[kingscrusher]

@BabsonTask Yes when Kasparov was trailing badly against Karpov in their 1st World championship match, and then struck back with a couple of wins. I think that would be an excellent example from Kasparov of handling the pain of losing - and nearly being wiped out in a match. I might do that example for Part 3 - cheers :)

[kingscrusher]

@kouluampuja96 What do you mean by these comments?! Did you see the link in the description from the GM in question here - he did seem concerned about not throwing away a good position if you check his comments. His previous losses had impacted him psychologically, but he did find positivity in his position being good.

[a8a8a5]

yesterday in my chess club i lost by my guilt in wining situation

first i wonted jump trough the window (club is in 3th floor)

second i wonted kick the shit out in that kid

when i left that akward moment when u are screaming in your car for 15 minuts and realize the window of car is still open

[Riggzilla]

It's like what's happening to Giri right now.... :/ Sucks that's he's getting crushed by everyone as of late.

[chesswithin1]

This game brought a good quote to mind: "chess is like a lake where a mosquito can bathe and an elephant can drown."

[jewbinson]

So ALL super-GMs have the attitude you describe in this video - namely that they can seemingly make miracles happen. That is what all sportsmen at the top of their game can seemingly do.

Comparing two players' ratings simply show a rough probability distribution of winning drawing and losing when the two players. This just happened to be one of those times when the lower rated player won.

There are other factors to consider like how quickly someone is improving but those aren't the main ones.

[kingscrusher]

@jewbinson Not just ratings - the current Tata tournament - and recent days events is what was considered the main factor for kibitzers at chessgames(dot)come for predicting an Aronian win.

[BasicPawn]

I think we all respect and like someone who is down on their luck, but tenaciously never quits.

He has earnt himself many new fans from the chess viewing community.

[jewbinson]

surely this "human belief can cause miracles to happen" video is based on hindsight...

If Navara would have lost this game after the draw offer, then the video title would be "GM Navara rejects draw offer from best player in the world and loses deservedly".

The fact of the matter is that GMs at this level know that their positive attitude is reflected on the board. They are able to somehow separate their emotions away from the game, and that is what makes them such high rated.

[MrInalbert]

I´m not very good at history, but didn´t David beat Goliath?

who else knows this comment from FIFA 07?

[Tanuki127]

100th



[TehLaser555]

4th

[MrInalbert]

3rd

[MrSIDHARTH213]

i gs now aronian should watch dis series of urs:P

[ShedarK]

1st