Finkelstein - Israel & Palestine: Roots of Conflict - Part 1

[FreakishlyTrue]

Thanks Mr Finkelstine for being a rare Jew for looking at the bigger picture!

[groeneveldp]

mr Finkelstein makes a big mistake by using the words........ the Israeli / Palestine conflict, he should have said.................. the holocaust on the palestines by the jews

[Born2Flesh]

..by the false-Jews and Zionist of Europe.

[Magenta408]

Finklestein's vision is clear, honest and straight forward. I guess the jews have seen to it that he is unemployed? How proud they must be for this, yet Finklestein speaks on and we learn more and more!

[shadowofears]

Beware of Zionist Dirty Tactics Any Jews that critisizes Israel Self Hating Jew Any person exposing Israel is an Antisemite or Nazi

[Born2Flesh]

90% of the people in Israel are not Jews nor Semitic. They may call themselves Zionist, but they are not the Jew. One must be born a Jew! Those who occupy Israel are from the Synagog's of Satan, and they rule over the USA. It was already written before it happen. ONE MUST BE BORN A JEW! THESE PEOPLE DON'T EVEN LOOK SEMITIC. THEY ARE THE FALSE JEW! THEY HAVE NO TRIBAL SEED! Zionist caused 9/11, and the Official Story is nothing but a cover-up.

[gocar1962]

Oh dear, how complicated. Tribal seed, false Jew, I only know that refugees from a terrible war in Europes were often in camps and nobody knew what to do with them Many were displaced because of the war but somehow the Jews who had been targeted by European bigots got a country offered to them. Unfortunately that country was already populated with native peoples but nobody seemed to care about that. Once again the world looked away with ethnic cleaning of Arabs by Jews.

[Born2Flesh]

That is total bullshit... Rothschild controlled Europe's Banks, and maybe you need to study The Balfour Declaration, Bolshevik Revolution, Zionism, and all the other history you don't know. You obviously don't have a clue.

[gocar1962]

Yes, I'm sure that there was some political pay offs down the road but are you saying that the influx of Jewish settlers who then declared it a Jewish state did not involve ethinic cleansing of Arabs? Zionism was much older than WW11 but at first they talked about a Jewish state anywhere, somewhere and only after the World Wars did the movement decide to shoot for Palestine as a homeland for the movement. It made sense and Evangelical Christians lauded the move as being biblical.

[Born2Flesh]

Political pay-offs? lol Hey dumbass! -------> The Rothschild controlled Europe's Banks.  GO STUDY, BECAUSE YOU STILL ARE LOST

[gocar1962]

Why are you so angry and disagreeable.? How rude to start using names instead of opening a lively discussion. You seem to be under the impression that I am an Israeli sympathizer. Is that right? All this business of world banks and control has been around for years but when people rise up against tyranny thay can do something. Are you on a side or are you just ranting because you like to? I would never go on line and start calling someone vile names. Would you talk to your mother like that?

[traolachobreasail]

the modern jew is not the jew from the bible but they are converted kazars from turkey

[abomacdad1]

this person very loyal and lovable to he people and he is warning them now better than tomorrow ,things always change in the history yes the arabs are week today but they wont be week tomorrow and usa can not be the strongest country for ever

[JerrySPsy]

@abomacdad1 The only lame reason you call him loyal is because he sells out his own people and is therefore on your Jew-hating side. His people hardly love him - most Jews, in point of fact, scorn him and hate him. And the word is "weak" not week. Another glimpse into that pea-sized bigoted brain of yours.

[lilfatl]

leave palestine

[eboker7]

The Jewish people are a small minority in the world. Which Throughout the history always fighting for survival and protect itself from attempts of destruction .. In addition, Throughout the history There were always Jews who gave their hand to evil And helped him destroying their own people .. Finkelstein is just a modern example of this that thing

[JerrySPsy]

@eboker7 I couldn't agree more. To me the worst thing is selling out your own people (and why? to create contoversy, sell books, and get paid to speak to Jew haters and stir them up even more? But even worse is his distortion, denial, and suppression of historical facts. And if anybody needs me to elaborate with historical facts then I'll be happy to oblige.

[abomacdad1]

@JerrySPsy no no no thank you very much

[JerrySPsy]

@abomacdad1 Yeah I guess the truth - and historical facts - scare you.

[eboker7]

this man is a crazy Nazi, he is driven by hatred and frustration

[ryanlk]

@eboker7 Yeah he hates jews!!! LFMAO He hates populations of people being oppressed, just like his family was in the Holocaust. The only survivors from his entire family was his mother and father, who survived the Holocaust, the rest of his entire extended family was exterminated by the Nazis. What frustration would this man have???

[JerrySPsy]

@ryanlk If Finklestein hates seeing people being oppressed then the converse of that would be his seeing the Jews annihilated. The problem I have with him is that he is blaming the victor and now sees only the consequences of people reaping what they sowed, the consequences of being defeated and not offered refuge by their Arab brothers. He conveniently seems to forget who started all the violence and the ethnic cleansing, who started ALL the wars, the terrorism, suicide attacks & rockets.

[ChorniyKot]

War Crime in Gaza=e2x_KxxXTBw

[72Yonatan]

How clever to make a career from hating other Jews.

[ChorniyKot]

"The Love Boat" - The Muslim War Council =0YV8Xkcxesg

[gtryghfd]

Israel was formed by Zionist terrorists who killed hundreds of british soldiers forcing Britain out of palestine

[capitalmindz]

@gtryghfd Lets not forget the Jews they killed as well (ex. King David Hotel)

[randy109]

@gtryghfd USA was formed by American Patriots using terror methods to kill hundreds of British soldiers, forcing Britain out of our 13 Colonies. "Terrorism" will always be used by an inferior army to force its will on an opponnent. Zionist/Israelis used the common method of rebellion when facing a superior military adversary. Right or Wrong is a matter of which side you're on...

[BehaviorModification]

@randy109 Spot on! Terrorism is distinguished from 'legitimate' military action by determining who is firing government-issued weapons & who is merely using whatever they can get their hands on. & the side with the capital required to disseminate its ideology en masse—a.k.a. "propaganda"—is always the side w/access to both 'legitimate' weapons & the 'unquestionable' right to use them in any way they deem fit. Justification? Motive? Well, that's what those rambling heads, or pundits, are for. :)

[maskedgunman]

Do people know that Finkelstein's views have been supported by Raul Hilberg (pre-eminent Holocaust scholar) and Noam Chomsky?

[bapyou]

Where are the other parts of this talk? The title says Part 1.

[barbarajakubowska]

God Bles Prof. Norman Finkelstein !

[bapyou]

Where and when did this talk take place?

Why do YouTube people always upload videos and forget to include important information such as where and when?

If you do not include the date and place of this talk, it lacks ALLLLL historical context! Why don't you understand this? Did this talk take place in space somewhere? If not, tell us where and when on this Earth it DID take place.

This is frustrating and maddening. I give you an 'F,' pdxjustice, for being so thoughtless and unthorough.

[Dyscrasite]

Ok, this guy is a Thinker not just a Talker; he has actually sat down and thought this thing threw and threw and is not putting in his own personal beliefs (odd).

I bet the Israeli's Government does not like him very much...lol

[ozmiester69]

why do you think they banned him from entering the place!

[kingnek]

this guy is one of those rare genius who see beyond their own bogotry

[Dyscrasite]

@kingnek I would agree with his ability in thinking outside the box on this.

[ahmedhusseinny]

This Frankenstein is a mouthpiece for Ham-Ass.

Dershowitz rightly shut him up and De Paul fired his sorry ass.

[Propagandhi900]

Dershowitz did shit all. Finkelstein absolutely destroyed Dershowitz in a debate on "Democracy Now!".

[ahmedhusseinny]

Propagandi900:

Drinking a lot of Kool Aid?

When did Frankestein ever destroy anything? O wait, he did destroy his own career.

I did watch them on Democracy Now and what clearly showed was his inferiority complex and his rants were amply rebutted by Mr. Dershowitz.

[Propagandhi900]

I drink Kool-aid, but unlike you my friend i read the ingredients before doing so.

The only thing Dershowitz accomplished during the debate was the greatest number of interruptions.

It's clear, that your an nonobjective Zionist tool.

N.F. destroyed him. Many times in the debate.

He lost his job due to what is essentially censorship. Even the dean of Des Paul supported him, but he was voted out because his believes did not coincide with their "Vincentian" principles.

Bar none. Norman won.

[ahmedhusseinny]

Propagandi900:

"nonobjective Zionist tool"?

How did you arrive at that conclusion? Because I hate Hamas propaganda I am a "nonobjective Zionist tool"?

That some objectivity right there! You may read the ingredients, but do you understand them?

:-)

[Propagandhi900]

Believe me. I understand and know of these ingredients far more than you could ever hope.

[ahmedhusseinny]

Propagandi900:

One thing I MUST commend you on is that in the 4 or so comments we have had back and forth, you did not resort to profanities. I salute you for that. Thank you.

I just have this ill feeling for Finkelstein because he supports Hamas and if you read the Hamas charter, you will see, it is not meant for a peaceful solution.

You are a good man! Peace be upon you and your family! Allah Hafiz. Ahmed.

[Propagandhi900]

He doesn't necessarily "support" Hamas. However, he does see them, as everyone should the elected representatives of the Palestinians in Gaza. They have the right and obligation to fight for their people.

Thank you.

[SweetDissident]

Oh yes, you are right, Dershowitz does try to shut out any serious debate or scholarship re: Middle East, or the Israel/ Palestine conflict. He also threatens administrators and educators who try to do their jobs; teach. So thank you, ahmedhusseinny, for pointing out this startling fact. Now all can see what a creepy tool of the ADL/Israel Lobby Dershowitz is, and how very jealous he is of the scholarship of others, who, unlike him, have written without plagairizing, and libel. Thanks!

[Questfortruth86]

Nothing can be more threatening to the zionist establishment then one of their own speaking out, and exposing their crimes/lies.

[ahmedhusseinny]

Questfortruth86

So Finkelstein belongs to and is a part of the Zionist establishment?

Your quest for truth seems more like your quest for kool-aid. Apparently you have been drinking lots of it. :-)

[Questfortruth86]

Okay, explain Israel : Created 4 million+ Refugees World record for UN Violations at 69+ Killed more innocent civilians per capita 50,000+ Has Imprisoned more civilians per cap 250,000+ , Has rendered more civilians Handicapped per cap 50,000+ Demolished more homes than any other country 60,000+ Outlawed marriage to Non-Jews, Destroyed 350 Christian Churches & Mosques 6 Wars in 60 years 254 km of Apartheid Wall(2 berlin walls) 562 Check Points Has Ethnically cleansed 500+ villages

[Questfortruth86]

And what's with the term "kool-aid" anyways?

[SweetDissident]

Questfortruth86, I think you are confusing Zionism with being Jewish. Not all Jewish people are Zionists, that is what ahmedhusseinny is trying to say, I think.

But I would agree that it probably is frustrating for Zionists to have their crimes exposed by Jewish persons, so I see what you are trying to say there too.

[rollingklouds]

It's ridiculous to claim that only in my garden flowers blossom.

I am entitled to love my garden the most, but should I not be appreciating flowers from other sources too?

Religions or nationalities are just like that. We all have a home and a garden, like a faith and a land. But what good are they if these could not enrich me enough to appreciate those of others as well?

Let us transcend. There is not tribal god.

[gsg831]

If this man was the top rated youtube video for a week straight, That means most viewed video of the day for a week that kinda exposure would force our government to recognize the facts of the situation in palestine and pressure israel into getting her act straight. Then the rest of us would keep the pressure on us gov to help palestine rebuild and keep the peace as far as tempering resentment from both sides not boots on the ground.

[kaszanouva]

Norman Finkelstein is a legend

[sujit77]

i love finkelstein! man-crush i mean

[TaskiyahEmaani]

fine speaker and a very educated man.

[gjylymsere]

great man, a true jew with great principles and with guts to stand up for the truth!

[intrepgun]

'a real mensch,' as some members of my mutt family would say. :)

[PeaceandUnity1972]

@gjylymsere

and that is the reason why he is respected by many over the world

Go Norman Finkelstein

[jimiydoorshamelech]

so yeah your a retard :)

[rw5791]

what happened to all the suicide bombings in israel.Are they going to iraq instead or maybe israeli security is stopping them or maybe hamas change their tactics?

[damasgate]

gun??? what the fuck is he talking about?

[tiove]

yeah i know i am totally confused about this? what would look like a gun ?

[damasgate]

Religious claims? I thought you mofos were secular?

[timcoles]

Good sound and picture. You were lucky to get this. I taped a talk at Exeter, UK, and the sponsors effectively sabotaged it. You wouldn't believe the amount of noise that was going on during the talk; giving him a shit podium when there was a perfectly good one right next to it; and, finally, making me sign a contract at the last minute to give them full rights to the footage. Norman was very gracious to me, though: he was at the mercy of the hosts.

[JohnnyRock2000]

The Holocaust made the world feel sorry for the Jews. Jews capitalized on that, finally got Israel, but wanted it all and have been slowly achieving that. A threat of a charge of anti-semitism has kept America amazingly supportive.

But America refuses to war with Iran now and that signals a weakening of Israel's influence. A less hawkish America perhaps will make a more compromising Israel. One can only hope.

[rencrow]

Don't be so quick to think that it might not go to war. The newly appointed chief of staff is none other than Rahm Emannuel the son of a Irgun member and who has also served in the israeli armed forces. Israel's influence on America has definitely not waned.

[JohnnyRock2000]

True. To say that the totality of Israel's influence ended with the election would be naive. The influence has been there noticeably and remarkably for 30 years and is not dependent on which political party is in power. It would not be an understatement to say that the influence will be there for years to come. America is caught in a snare trap that way. Too bad.

[jimiydoorshamelech]

" 1947 UN Resol for Pakistan caused an enormous refugee movement, 750,000 died

(1948 arab-Israeli war less than 20,000 died in all,) during the migration ..only because the Indian Muslims decided to chop off a big chunk of India for themselves.

(May 14, 1948), 7 Arab armies attacked Israel. Azzam Pasha (Secretary-General of the Arab League) announced:

This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades"

[jimiydoorshamelech]

the pallywood media makes the world feel sorry for palestinians but obscured that even Jordan has committed repressions against them

--Israel counterterror: (w/ human life respect)

5,000 Total Palestinains killed since 2000 , the bloodiest 8 years of the Isra/Pal conflict. caused by intifada (bloody war declared by Palestinians)[SELF-IMPOSED]

--Arab counterterror:

25,000 Arabs killed by Syria 1980-1981 (Hama Massacre) fighting the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist

[klubban123]

Oh please, give me links to fact "Hamas Massacre". Oh you don't have? Can I tell you why? "Please dada let me" Oh my 3 year old son wants to answer. Dada, Hamas didn't fucking exist 1980 - 1981. ME 3 year old owns this fucker on youtube YAY!

[jimiydoorshamelech]

not 'Hamas Massacre" its the Hama Massacre (no "s") sorry "me three year old doesnt win" In February 1982, the Muslim Brotherhood ambushed government forces who were searching for dissidents in Hama. Several thousand Syrian troops, supported by armor and artillery, moved into the city and crushed the insurgents during over two weeks of bloodshed. When the fighting was over, perhaps as many as 7,000 to 35,000 people lay dead, including an estimated 1,000 soldiers

GLobal Security Org

[juliaisafilmbuff]

This man is a genius. He should be on the US media.

[kafir1917]

"genius"? LOOOOOL

[jimiydoorshamelech]

In India the Muslims felt like chopping off a piece of India to create a Muslim state Pakistan .BTW, the UN resolution for Pakistan was in the same year 1947. Interesting parallel. Enormous numbers of refugees, Hindus and Sighs escaping to India, 750 000 died. And? Any peep about Pakistan?

" The establishment of Pakistan caused an enormous refugee movement, 3/4 of a million died during the migration ..only because the Indian Muslims decided to chop off a big chunk of India for themselves.

[laline72]

pakistan wasnt built on stolen land pakistan didint herd hindus into refugee camps pakistan was settled by people who already lived there not shipped in from europe pakistan didnt create an apartheid state pakistan didnt murder women and children as a matter of policy unlike israel so dont embarras pakistanis and compare them to israel

[sibilkkoloft]

jimiydoorshamelech,

Yet another Zionist Jew. WTF does india have to do with what you murderers done to the defenceless Palestinians?

5000 Paltestinains killed by no other than a fat cunt called Sharon your terrorist Prime Minister.

For every Israeli child killed you have murdered 8 Palestinian children. For every Israeli man killed you have murdered 13 Palestinians.

Isn't YouTube good? u can no longer control ppl through ur Hollywood films and ur Jewish owned TV!

Get a life cluster-bomber.

[SweetDissident]

Yes. Genius, as in: incredibly gifted intellectually; to be able to see through the subterfuge and obfuscations of the media and the Israel Lobby, to single-handedly debunk frauds, like the Peters book, and Dershowitz's books, to have studied the Israel/Palestine conflict for decades, to critically analyze more documentation than you or I would look at in 100 lifetimes, to pour through countless volumes, to have his scholarship proclaimed beyond reproach by other scholars~ yes, yes, he is.

[kafir1917]

sweet: no matter how many big words you drag out of dictionary trying to look clever, you are a shit for brains frustrated fool! Go get life you sad old loser!

[SweetDissident]

I wasn't "trying to look clever." I already know I am clever. To "look clever" on You Tube hardly requires a vocabulary of more than 1500 words. I was responding to a comment here where someone had referred to, oops, sorry for the "big word" there, someone called Finkelstein a "genius," and someone else commented "Genius?" or something like that. That is why I left the comment below. If you think those are big words, here's an even bigger one, ready? "Supercalifragilisticexpialido­cious!"

[kafir1917]

sweet: Why dont you instead of spending endless hours on internet, go get a life, maybe a job, or even pay for a viagara and a prostitute you fucking illiterate sad old loser! LOOOL

[SweetDissident]

Well, kafir1917, perhaps that advice is meant for yourself as a) I am a woman, and b) am not yet "old" but hope to be one day and c) have a full - time job, and a wonderful boyfriend as well. I'm neither sad, old, illiterate, nor a "loser," but carry on ranting if it makes you so happy. My heart goes out to sad losers such as yourself who have nothing better to do than spew venom in comments. Good day to you!

[kafir1917]

wekk "sweet dissident": I should had called you a sad old bitch then! LOOOOL

[sting695]

aneb to that

[sting695]

*amen even...

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