An Internet video painting Jon Huntsman as a Chairman Mao-style Manchurian Candidate, first believed to have been made by Ron Paul supporters, was actually created by members of the official Jon Huntsman campaign in an effort to smear the Texas congressman.
Paul supporters: I worry about some of yall. I am, admittedly, in favor of many of his positions, but it seems like too many of his supporters blindly hang on each word he says.
Remember 2008 and Obama's huge popularity with young people. Now that many of you are three years older, what have you learned?
@TheCoughlm We've learned that he's been right all along.
watch?v=An4XrseNTNU
He's not perfect, as is no candidate, but he's the best out there in this race and understands what's wrong and what's needed to fix it and not afraid to tell us. The rest are the same old, same old and nothing will change if they are re-elected.
So who would you support and why? I'm in my mid 50's and Dr. Paul helped me save my 401K BEFORE the crash!
He should be coming up for RE-election!! Ron Paul 2012 or BU$T !!
@TheCoughlm I don't know about "hanging on every word he says" but even if we were, let us have a look at paul vs obama. Paul has many years of experience, and throughout that time, he has been nothing but consistent. His idea are largely the logical conclusion of the idea of liberty and following the constitution. We usually end up agreeing with him because he brings it to our attention, and we agree with his reasoning(something most candidates don't offer) or we already noticed it.
Out of the trillions of libelous anonymous posts and videos in internet history, Jon Huntsman only found one that actually related to him? Must not be a very relevant candidate.
These other two videos, the Santorum and Romney look like some Ron Paul supporter trying to create a distraction. Both were posted on the 6th two days after the origina which was posted on the 4thl. The original YouTube could easily have been downloaded,using any one of a number of freeware YouTube download programs, edited, then reposted.under fake Santorum and Romney YouTube nicks.
This seems obvious. Evidence shows that the Huntsman team initially linked the video and tried to pin it on Dr. Paul. I think his team was too stupid to understand how incriminating it is to create an account, immediately upload this video, then immediately use their real account to say, "Hey, Dr. Paul owes us an explanation," before anyone knew it existed. Now they use other candidates to cover it up. Don't avoid the real story: the account/upload time line and how quickly Huntsman linked it.
probably it is a mainstreamprank including the huntsmangirls on the ron paulcampaign. because of the twitterfeed. i mean the evidence is so obviously all over the place. or are they really so dumb?
Let's assume for a minute that Huntsman, who received less than 5% of the vote across the board, is attacking Ron Paul. Why would he do this? Wouldn't it make more sense to attack Romney, or Santorum, if it was Huntsman's goal to get more coverage? Of course Huntsman is going to notice this stuff before anybody else, since he isn't getting any coverage at all. What I find interesting is that nobody is willing to admit that there are some serious a-holes in the Paul camp, you know, Stormfront?
@Mangina9000 And by no means am I saying all Ron Paul supporters are neonazis or racists, but there are many of these people who are pretty heavy into Paul because of his creepy connection to the John Birch Society, who are notorious racists and whacko NWO conspiracy theorists.
@Mangina9000 If Huntsman's website was the first to link to the video, and Jon was on the news talking about it later the same day it was first posted, that makes his campaign the top suspect based on evidence. You can conjecture based on your stereotype of "many of these" Ron Paul supporters, but that is not evidence.
Why they didn't try this to accuse Romney?
Media people believe anything bad about "Paul supporters" and take every opportunity to bash Paul. But they <3 Romney.
The NHLiberty4Paul video was posted on January 4th. The NH4Santorum video was posted on January 6th--oddly, the same day this video ("Who Created the Huntsman Manchurian Candidate Ad?") was posted. The quality in the NH4Santorum has diminished, compared to the original NHLiberty4Paul, so the NH4Santorum video was clearly posted to try to make it look like the NHLiberty4Paul video was posted by a Huntsman supporter.
@frogscanbefree That was my thought too... Very coincidental. Almost too coincidental. I think the guy that posted this "Who Created the Huntsman Manchurian Candidate Ad?" video had a hand in creating the Santorum and Romney videos.
Okay= I changed my mind. It had to be Ron Paul or it HAD to be Santorum or Romney or Newt.. and, just look at that face. Huntsman is SO cute, with his sweet little dot on his head..... You wanna kiss him or?-- vote FOR him, right?
Simply an attack on Ron Paul. It also shows 7 likes and 300 views. lol Apparently Goldman Sachs likes Huntsman. Huntsman, Romney, Santorum you just screwed yourself.
@annebeck58 You think the Banksters are smart enough to fund 0bama and Romney so that no matter who wins, THEY win? Oh wait, they are! Goldman Sachs the big fat bailout monstrosity itself!
The original video is tagged jon 2012 girls which are JON HUNTSMAN'S DAUGHTERS who are known for making parodies with other political videos. My guess: they also did this one. Hope people won't be deceived and the tags don't change so you can see it. I also hope Dr. Paul wins this one.
@nadermhj See, that's the thing.. I would say, but most are in Israel (little USA, from whence the tail wags the dog), and I already have an "FBI file".. so..
But, then again, there's Jon Stewart. Still, he is not trying to be taken SERIOUSLY (or is he?).
The only time the media whores speak with Dr.Paul is when some crazy ass BS surfaces. They never want to discuss the issues that plague our nation. SHAME!!!! America wake the hell up!!! Turn off the friggin' BoobTube and conduct you're own research and find the FACTS!!!!!
Or.. whahhh. I'm Jon Huntsman and nobody is talking about ME, so I had better DO something.. (knock knock- who's there? SantoRomney, the evil Twin Bot.. we are here to help!)...
Do you think Huntsman was not offered a seat (Sec State?) by Mr Obvious to do this? Come on. We are not that dumb.
And, elsewhere in America today, more Americans are feverishly working toward their own demise!
An even EASIER way to get to the truth? WHO, other than Huntsman, has HIS home-videos? Hello, obvious-bot, Huntsman, is INSANE. He is another tool for the corporate elite, feverishly WORKING toward his OWN demise!
I think the Democrats posted these NH4 (name the candidate) videos to start a big fight between the Republican candidates because Jon Huntsman may win the New Hampshire primary, and they want to discredit him by having everyone think he was behind this video. Who has the most to gain by this video? The Democrats. Dirty politics in America. We don't vote for candidates anymore, we vote for a mask behind which we have not a clue.
@tradingbarracuda As they say follow the money and who benefits. It seems like Huntsman camp has the most to gain. And the fact that they are talking about the condition of the girls makes the matters worst. If I was the 12 year old I would be sad hearing my dad and my sister talking about me this way. ie: left for dead, we got them before the animals, etc.. This is Huntsman PROP AGENDA.
I never saw this video linked on Huntsman website, it is very possible however that someone posted it in the comments on his blog. I would wait to jump to conclusions before you accuse Huntsman or his official campaign team of posting this. I'll agree there seems to be a good chance this was posted from a Huntsman supporter, but to say it was his actual campaign that did it is quite an accusation.
@TheShriekingShack Why don't they give Dr.Paul the same "benifit of the doubt"? Huntsman, the media whores...everyone attacked Dr.Paul in less than 24 hours!!! Huntsman continues to refer to the video as "Ron Paul's video" WTF?
@meonetallguy 'cuz that is not the game they play.. Same with the tweet about Huntsman's slam- from @RONPAUi (spelled with an i, not an L). The silly ninny from CNN didn't even bother to look up something that easy, and instead, went after Paul for what Paui said.. "hey, Huntsman, I found your ONE voter--(somewhere in) Iowa". Funny, but would be mental of PauL to say that!
A Twitter from McCain's wife: I deeply resent the video made using the adopted daughters of@johnhuntsman. @ronpaul shame on you. This has shades of 2000 all over it.
Tell him they're damaged goods: bit . ly / xkhcVt RT @globeglen Just ran into @Jon2012girls, my son asked if they're married. #StyrofoamPrincesses #jon2012witches
Any Paul supporters would know that this isn't RP's work or one of his supporters work. I would have lost a good chunk of respect for RP if that were the case.
Good job explaining the basics of why this NHLiberty4Paul post is so dubious. I would want to add one thing, it is *very* easy to spoof a referral, i.e. I can make it look like a web site referred a video when it did not. This video was posted with several different candidates "supporting" including Santorum. I think this NHLiberty4Paul post is just your basic troll, it just got picked up by the media. FWIW I doubt Paul or Huntsman had anything to do with this.
@chailey666 I bet it was the troll who also has a yt channel Dr. "Right" Paul u guys know who I'm referring to, refuse to click on his videos, deny him the hits.~ Blocks ratings & comments. total butt whore.
Huntsman should be ashamed of himself, better yet drop out of the race. It is a vile video and those who know and follow Dr.Paul's values know that he is not a vicious, mean individual. For the media to pick up this story and run with it is just another glaring example of the media's ongoing onslaught of Dr.Paul's Campaign. Huntsman continues to discuss this video every chance he gets even going so far as to refer to the video as "Ron Paul's video" WTF? See his talk at New England College.
It could just be the RNC with a tip off for the Huntsman campaign. In 1996, the NYT caught the RNC working against the Paul campaign (Gingrich and then Governor Bush endorsed a Democrat who had just turned Rep. in the race against Ron Paul).
fuck huntsman. "my record is what a record is when you check a record by looking at the record i made when my first record is what i'm talking about and further more my record....". i hate that establishment bastard !
It's really sad that Hunstman would attack Paul, considering that, while Huntsman was not a full on non-intereventionist, his views on foreign policy and torture were somewhat closer to Paul's than the neocons.
The coverage is way over board but RP has a lot.....A LOT of kooks supporting him. It just makes it easier to believe it could be Paul Supporters. It looks more suspicious to me that someone would have been dumb enough to use the same video forum and practically the same channel name. Either way I think it is a non issue.
So...did it occur to anyone else that this entire thing (which is now becoming ridiculous in the sheer spread of new channels and fake forum posts and whatnot) is a massive prank on the "evil mainstream media", who tend to run with things before checking them? Especially the new channels...where are media reports mentioning the video appearing on Romney and Santorum's pages? Seems like this is all a way to make the media look really damn stupid.
This is crazy! Why would someone stoop so low as to attack themselves then blame others for it, especially when it could be easily proven that they did it, then they come off losing all credibility? Ironically enough as I type this on the right is a video titled "Jon Huntsman Is the Candidate We Can Trust" Seriously! This man needs to admit he lied and leave the race, if he had a shred of integrity he would. Shame on you Jon Huntsman! SHAME SHAME SHAME!!!
BTW: If you're going to fake Santorum videos, don't make the mistake of using a video capture which shows "300 Views". If you review NH4Santorum's Channel you'll find that 300 views would place the screen capture very early in the life of the YouTube.
@Josey2006 Why do you even bother trolling? You think anyone wants to read your bullshit? Your comments are disappearing from thumbs down. I'm glad you think I should get a GED, but I suppose it would be a waste considering I already have 3 degrees and I'm a political science major at a top university. "I ain't even trolling". You are just a troll.
Why the fuck would anyone bother making an ad attacking Huntsman? I'm not making a joke here. Romney is in the lead and he's been getting off scott free? What a waste of money and time.
@promontorium To give the mainstream more fake talking points against Ron Paul who is the only real candidate running !! They can't find anything in Ron's closet so they have to make it up....The globalists are in panic mode as the message of freedom grows.
there is a twitter feed on huntsman's campaign site... the creator probably tweeted it with a tag and it showed up on the feed there and someone clicked on it, causing youtube to capture the referral
If I were to guess, I would say that the first video on the 4th about Ron Paul was by a person from Huntsman's campaign who had access to his website in order to refer the video, or by a skilled hacker or team of hackers. I think the other channels are made by random internet trolls though, because they appeared 2 days after the first one.
@TechMeched WHERE did they get that footage of Huntsman with his baby? It seems like a private video. Also the first visit to the video from an actual website came from jon2012.com. Then we have that slow-loading forum post which is either smoking gun proof of Huntsman and his campaign being behind the VIDEO - OR! that entire message board entry is fabricated from start to finish to slander their campaign. God help us all.
@FatLibertarianInOkc What I meant was that the "paul channel" was created and posted the video on the 4th. The "santorum/romney channels" were both created on the 6th and posted their videos on the 6th
What's interesting is that this "Who Created The Huntsman Manchurian Candidate Ad?" video came out on the same day that the Santorum video was posted. An amazing find!
Almost as if the person who created the Santorum video also created this video.
@Josey2006 you're a moron. This video came out 2 days after every news outlet in America blasted the lie that Ron Paul put up the Manchurian Candidate video.
@FatLibertarianInOkc The other mirror pages claiming to be from Santorum, Romney, Huntsman, supporters were probably put up in jest, just to show how easy it was to do and to prove that no one in the national media did any fact checking (beyond apparently sending a message directly to the NH4Liberty page) Huffington Post says the page's owner responded claiming to be asked not to talk to anyone "by the campaign".
check /watch?v=Ij8slSMMh0c at 0:32, the same footage you talking about.
the clip title is "Utah Governor Jon Huntsman and His Family...", an old opened video in 2009 on youtube about hutsman and his adopted daughter from china.
this shows that footage is not so private. guys can get it very easy.
@TechMeched yes i noticed this as well, it's a little strange that they came on different days. don't know what it means, maybe some type of cover? it's either an internet troll looking for laughs, or more manipulation from one of these campaigns.
@TechMeched - 1. copycats, wanna be's, attention whores, trolls - post more copies and confuse. 2. Attempt to diffuse the blowback. Spread the blame around to everyone. 3. Someones tribute video to Ron Paul that ended up being not what was expected. 4. Idiot kid in the basement whose great idea at 3 A.M. turned out to be a stinker in the light of day. 4. Not a Huntsman video or any other candidate - they have staffs that shoot this kind of crap down because they know it'll backfire.
@TechMeched As far as who is the creator, has anyone seen Andrew Breitbart lately? This kind of crap (though usually directed at the left) smells like his creations.
I happened to catch some Fox news at lunch. They totally tried to pin this video on Ron Paul supporters, and interviewed one of Huntsman's daughters (although I didn't catch what she said). I very much doubt that Fox has retracted their suggestion that this video came from Paul's camp.
I made a video showing the original website that was behind the attack!!!
/watch?v=8VraC-kONZA
The internet is OUR turf, we will not let the mainstream media move in on our turf with this smear campaign! spread the video to as many people as you can!!!!
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This is totally stupid! Did you ever think that Jon Huntsman has something called a "CAMPAIGN TEAM" that searches the web for publicity, negative or positive? That's kinda part of their JOB, right? Maybe THAT'S why the Huntsman campaign got a hold of it. Jon Huntsman and his campaign are much too intelligent, has way too much faith in God and in our country to stoop to a level low enough to do something as stupid as this.
@cschwenky Then who in the hell made it? I have no idea who it actually originated from. All I know is to blame Ron Paul for it is complete and utter bullshit. I actually kind of like Huntsman. He's not a warmongering whore like most the other candidates. But the way they came out so fast - they're the ones who made this video go viral. Seems fishy but we'll probably never know. There are now SEVERAL NEW fake channels running this video and each says to support someone else.. LOL
@FatLibertarianInOkc There's a lot of people out there (I know a TON! haha) that have the mentality that they'd rather have anyone BUT a certain candidate. A lot of GOP voters are taking that stance against Barack Obama. Jon Huntsman is a right-of-center moderate, and many conservatives hate that about him. Perhaps these videos were created by one of those conservatives. I agree that it's TOTAL bullshit to blame Ron Paul, but I also say the same about the Huntsman campaign.
@FatLibertarianInOkc or any other candidates' campaigns. I would like to believe that none of the candidates in the race are this slummy or ignorant to post something as ridiculous as this, but I could be wrong.
@cschwenky Sure, but that's not how the internet works. You need links to videos to make them popular etc.
Plus, there are so many horrible youtube videos out there slamming different candidates, to pick out a single one and focus on it, within 24 hours of it being posted by a brand new user with 0 followers etc.
@cschwenky Absolutely, I can believe a politician could do that. Pretty damn fishy to me and anyone else when you see who first "pushed" the video (where the first hit came from)... Who the hell would have privy to any of Huntsman's personal footage? This is a sham.
@cschwenky Here's the thing though. How in the fuck are the Huntsman campaign going to get a hold of it, BEFORE everybody else? All first referrals come from his direction at the same time, not just the same day, within the same our. This is when the video had still around 0 views.
I like Huntsman but it's suspicious and it has evidence, more evidence than some newsletters.
Great job exposing the fraud! We need more of this because the media clearly doesn't play fair. I wonder if John King of CNN asked Santorum to disavow this video.
The santorum one was a troll post (look at the upload date). I believe the purpose was to claim how baseless the argument against Ron Paul is regarding his supporter's videos.
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An Internet video painting Jon Huntsman as a Chairman Mao-style Manchurian Candidate, first believed to have been made by Ron Paul supporters, was actually created by members of the official Jon Huntsman campaign in an effort to smear the Texas congressman.
therightperspective . org/2012/01/10/huntsman-campaign-made-anti-huntsman-ad/
Vote4RonPaulLiberty 1 month ago
Of course it was a fake vid. If I made a vid trolling huntsmen i'd get like 100views ... or would it?
utubedetective72 1 month ago
@utubedetective72
Probably would get 13
fuggotry 1 month ago
@fuggotry u trying to be funny bro? Ur vid actually has 13 veiws lol!!!
utubedetective72 1 month ago
I remember seeing the one that said santorum lol
utubedetective72 1 month ago
the other campaigns would not have had access to all these "home movie" sections of the ad
jamphellhamo 1 month ago 3
Funny how Huntsman lies. Maybe he really is a politician. Oh well he's no different than 99% of them. That's why I will be voting for Ron Paul 2012
radroofer 1 month ago 3
A search for "The-paulbots-are-going-crazy-with-our-video" reveals a lot!
TheEndeavoringFamily 1 month ago
Paul supporters: I worry about some of yall. I am, admittedly, in favor of many of his positions, but it seems like too many of his supporters blindly hang on each word he says.
Remember 2008 and Obama's huge popularity with young people. Now that many of you are three years older, what have you learned?
TheCoughlm 1 month ago
@TheCoughlm We've learned that he's been right all along.
watch?v=An4XrseNTNU
He's not perfect, as is no candidate, but he's the best out there in this race and understands what's wrong and what's needed to fix it and not afraid to tell us. The rest are the same old, same old and nothing will change if they are re-elected.
So who would you support and why? I'm in my mid 50's and Dr. Paul helped me save my 401K BEFORE the crash!
He should be coming up for RE-election!! Ron Paul 2012 or BU$T !!
1776Rosco 1 month ago
@TheCoughlm I don't know about "hanging on every word he says" but even if we were, let us have a look at paul vs obama. Paul has many years of experience, and throughout that time, he has been nothing but consistent. His idea are largely the logical conclusion of the idea of liberty and following the constitution. We usually end up agreeing with him because he brings it to our attention, and we agree with his reasoning(something most candidates don't offer) or we already noticed it.
truthseeker370 1 month ago
will Paul get his apology????? wow!
Newproducersradio 1 month ago 2
It was an "inside Job"
Sagefrakrobatik 1 month ago 2
orinje(dawtcom)/threads/430416-The-paulbots-are-going-crazy-with-our-video/page3
PROOF
CALL CNN, FOX, and MSNBC tip lines IMMEDIATELY.
THIS WAS DONE BY HIS SUPPORTERS, _FACT_
fuggotry 1 month ago
@fuggotry
They aren't going to air it, we've proven who wrote the Paul newsletters and now they won't touch the story.
They've made him look bad by throwing this ad up, they're not going to vindicate him now by saying he absolutely nothing to do with it.
SergeantPepper99 1 month ago 2
Out of the trillions of libelous anonymous posts and videos in internet history, Jon Huntsman only found one that actually related to him? Must not be a very relevant candidate.
hodoprime 1 month ago
Take it down huntsman looking for attention put it up
cullinane8888 1 month ago
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These other two videos, the Santorum and Romney look like some Ron Paul supporter trying to create a distraction. Both were posted on the 6th two days after the origina which was posted on the 4thl. The original YouTube could easily have been downloaded,using any one of a number of freeware YouTube download programs, edited, then reposted.under fake Santorum and Romney YouTube nicks.
Josey2006 1 month ago
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Josey2006 1 month ago
This seems obvious. Evidence shows that the Huntsman team initially linked the video and tried to pin it on Dr. Paul. I think his team was too stupid to understand how incriminating it is to create an account, immediately upload this video, then immediately use their real account to say, "Hey, Dr. Paul owes us an explanation," before anyone knew it existed. Now they use other candidates to cover it up. Don't avoid the real story: the account/upload time line and how quickly Huntsman linked it.
wstsd1 1 month ago
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Jon Huntsman admits he made the ad. ----> watch?v=ftukn5XBZY0
obambicom 1 month ago
probably it is a mainstreamprank including the huntsmangirls on the ron paulcampaign. because of the twitterfeed. i mean the evidence is so obviously all over the place. or are they really so dumb?
fongster62 1 month ago
just goto account jon2012girls
fongster62 1 month ago
Let's assume for a minute that Huntsman, who received less than 5% of the vote across the board, is attacking Ron Paul. Why would he do this? Wouldn't it make more sense to attack Romney, or Santorum, if it was Huntsman's goal to get more coverage? Of course Huntsman is going to notice this stuff before anybody else, since he isn't getting any coverage at all. What I find interesting is that nobody is willing to admit that there are some serious a-holes in the Paul camp, you know, Stormfront?
Mangina9000 1 month ago
@Mangina9000 And by no means am I saying all Ron Paul supporters are neonazis or racists, but there are many of these people who are pretty heavy into Paul because of his creepy connection to the John Birch Society, who are notorious racists and whacko NWO conspiracy theorists.
Mangina9000 1 month ago
@Mangina9000 If Huntsman's website was the first to link to the video, and Jon was on the news talking about it later the same day it was first posted, that makes his campaign the top suspect based on evidence. You can conjecture based on your stereotype of "many of these" Ron Paul supporters, but that is not evidence.
Why they didn't try this to accuse Romney?
Media people believe anything bad about "Paul supporters" and take every opportunity to bash Paul. But they <3 Romney.
VoteCliffHutchison 1 month ago
The NHLiberty4Paul video was posted on January 4th. The NH4Santorum video was posted on January 6th--oddly, the same day this video ("Who Created the Huntsman Manchurian Candidate Ad?") was posted. The quality in the NH4Santorum has diminished, compared to the original NHLiberty4Paul, so the NH4Santorum video was clearly posted to try to make it look like the NHLiberty4Paul video was posted by a Huntsman supporter.
frogscanbefree 1 month ago
@frogscanbefree That was my thought too... Very coincidental. Almost too coincidental. I think the guy that posted this "Who Created the Huntsman Manchurian Candidate Ad?" video had a hand in creating the Santorum and Romney videos.
Josey2006 1 month ago
@frogscanbefree Really, the only compelling evidence is the access by the Huntsman site which can easily be forged like the videos.
Josey2006 1 month ago
@Josey2006 How you can forge that ?
DMINATOR 1 month ago
GOOD WORK MAIN STREAM MEDIA
pintinify 1 month ago
Okay= I changed my mind. It had to be Ron Paul or it HAD to be Santorum or Romney or Newt.. and, just look at that face. Huntsman is SO cute, with his sweet little dot on his head..... You wanna kiss him or?-- vote FOR him, right?
(yeah, not so much.. or, not at all)
annebeck58 1 month ago
only gay ppl vote for gay paul aka ron paul. -.-;;;;
aesutton 1 month ago
Simply an attack on Ron Paul. It also shows 7 likes and 300 views. lol Apparently Goldman Sachs likes Huntsman. Huntsman, Romney, Santorum you just screwed yourself.
Establisment in fear of Ron Paul
bladeproject1 1 month ago
BUSTED Romney, get the two sides distracted & fighting each other.
Zapppo 1 month ago
@Zapppo You think Romney is smart enough to do this? Aren't his kids not allowed on those internets? I mean, they ARE mormon, right?
annebeck58 1 month ago
@annebeck58 You think the Banksters are smart enough to fund 0bama and Romney so that no matter who wins, THEY win? Oh wait, they are! Goldman Sachs the big fat bailout monstrosity itself!
Zapppo 1 month ago
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The original video is tagged jon 2012 girls which are JON HUNTSMAN'S DAUGHTERS who are known for making parodies with other political videos. My guess: they also did this one. Hope people won't be deceived and the tags don't change so you can see it. I also hope Dr. Paul wins this one.
Greetings from Brazil.
RON PAUL 2012!!!
nadermhj 1 month ago
@nadermhj See, that's the thing.. I make it a rule to not trust anyone who spells John without the "h"...
annebeck58 1 month ago
@annebeck58 interesting rule... haha... do you have any other examples besides this one?
nadermhj 1 month ago
@nadermhj See, that's the thing.. I would say, but most are in Israel (little USA, from whence the tail wags the dog), and I already have an "FBI file".. so..
But, then again, there's Jon Stewart. Still, he is not trying to be taken SERIOUSLY (or is he?).
annebeck58 1 month ago
I bet it's gonna get brutal before this GOP primary is over.
USAPappy 1 month ago
The only time the media whores speak with Dr.Paul is when some crazy ass BS surfaces. They never want to discuss the issues that plague our nation. SHAME!!!! America wake the hell up!!! Turn off the friggin' BoobTube and conduct you're own research and find the FACTS!!!!!
meonetallguy 1 month ago 2
For the actual facts of this matter, see my long post:
24ahead.com/n/10891
The only "proof" that Huntsman did it isn't proof at all, see [2] at that link.
NoMoreBlatherDotCom 1 month ago
Or.. whahhh. I'm Jon Huntsman and nobody is talking about ME, so I had better DO something.. (knock knock- who's there? SantoRomney, the evil Twin Bot.. we are here to help!)...
Do you think Huntsman was not offered a seat (Sec State?) by Mr Obvious to do this? Come on. We are not that dumb.
And, elsewhere in America today, more Americans are feverishly working toward their own demise!
annebeck58 1 month ago
@annebeck58 Well said Anne.
meonetallguy 1 month ago
An even EASIER way to get to the truth? WHO, other than Huntsman, has HIS home-videos? Hello, obvious-bot, Huntsman, is INSANE. He is another tool for the corporate elite, feverishly WORKING toward his OWN demise!
What an IDIOT. What BOT!
annebeck58 1 month ago
I think the Democrats posted these NH4 (name the candidate) videos to start a big fight between the Republican candidates because Jon Huntsman may win the New Hampshire primary, and they want to discredit him by having everyone think he was behind this video. Who has the most to gain by this video? The Democrats. Dirty politics in America. We don't vote for candidates anymore, we vote for a mask behind which we have not a clue.
Berglernut 1 month ago
The extra attention has been great for Ron Paul in spite of the fact that this idiot tried this stunt.
tradingbarracuda 1 month ago 11
@tradingbarracuda Hah. I know-- he went up (even in the rigged polls) by two positions, easing out? SANITORIUM Satan!
annebeck58 1 month ago
I can't believe the LSM would act like ignorant assholes
pf91rodman 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@pf91rodman Oh, it's not that hard to believe, LOL.
KaptKan1 1 month ago in playlist JON HUNTSMAN
@pf91rodman It's par for the course with this LAZY Lamestream media. Whores! Every last one of 'em!!!
meonetallguy 1 month ago
@pf91rodman "LSM"? Lying, Stinking, media?
annebeck58 1 month ago
@annebeck58
Lame Stream Media
pf91rodman 1 month ago
Ron Paul supporters KNOW that you don't attack candidates that are polling lower than RP. Why would they attack down?
But on the other hand HUNTSMAN would be highly motivated to attack up at RP. So would Santorum.
tradingbarracuda 1 month ago 28
@tradingbarracuda Santorum isnt below RP in the polls
Sagefrakrobatik 1 month ago
@Sagefrakrobatik Ahahahahahah...
YouToobDouche 1 month ago
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@tradingbarracuda As they say follow the money and who benefits. It seems like Huntsman camp has the most to gain. And the fact that they are talking about the condition of the girls makes the matters worst. If I was the 12 year old I would be sad hearing my dad and my sister talking about me this way. ie: left for dead, we got them before the animals, etc.. This is Huntsman PROP AGENDA.
TheAnothernow 1 month ago
I never saw this video linked on Huntsman website, it is very possible however that someone posted it in the comments on his blog. I would wait to jump to conclusions before you accuse Huntsman or his official campaign team of posting this. I'll agree there seems to be a good chance this was posted from a Huntsman supporter, but to say it was his actual campaign that did it is quite an accusation.
TheShriekingShack 1 month ago
@TheShriekingShack Why don't they give Dr.Paul the same "benifit of the doubt"? Huntsman, the media whores...everyone attacked Dr.Paul in less than 24 hours!!! Huntsman continues to refer to the video as "Ron Paul's video" WTF?
meonetallguy 1 month ago 2
@meonetallguy 'cuz that is not the game they play.. Same with the tweet about Huntsman's slam- from @RONPAUi (spelled with an i, not an L). The silly ninny from CNN didn't even bother to look up something that easy, and instead, went after Paul for what Paui said.. "hey, Huntsman, I found your ONE voter--(somewhere in) Iowa". Funny, but would be mental of PauL to say that!
annebeck58 1 month ago
According to Politico, the ad was made by the Huntsman campaign ITSELF. Go on Politico and see the evidence.
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himitechworld 1 month ago
A Twitter from McCain's wife: I deeply resent the video made using the adopted daughters of@johnhuntsman. @ronpaul shame on you. This has shades of 2000 all over it.
Share this video with her on Twitter. @CindyhM1
esopxe 1 month ago
the only problem with this ad is that nobody cares about Jon Huntsman anyway.
saxophone323 1 month ago
clap clap clap
saxophone323 1 month ago
i can't find the one where it tell you to vote santorum....did they take it down?
FloydTheBarbara 1 month ago
You've gotta contact Ron Paul's campaign about this! I sent them an email.
linda93631 1 month ago 3
@linda93631 Uhm.. are you cuckoo? I think you need to send that email to HUNTSMAN!
annebeck58 1 month ago
Tell him they're damaged goods: bit . ly / xkhcVt RT @globeglen Just ran into @Jon2012girls, my son asked if they're married. #StyrofoamPrincesses #jon2012witches
mauibrad 1 month ago
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promontorium 1 month ago
Any Paul supporters would know that this isn't RP's work or one of his supporters work. I would have lost a good chunk of respect for RP if that were the case.
TheRaymondFactor 1 month ago
I bet it was 's daughters that created and posted this video! They created the spoof Cain video... I smell a lawsuit!!!
TheTruthHurts101 1 month ago
Good job explaining the basics of why this NHLiberty4Paul post is so dubious. I would want to add one thing, it is *very* easy to spoof a referral, i.e. I can make it look like a web site referred a video when it did not. This video was posted with several different candidates "supporting" including Santorum. I think this NHLiberty4Paul post is just your basic troll, it just got picked up by the media. FWIW I doubt Paul or Huntsman had anything to do with this.
chailey666 1 month ago
@chailey666 I bet it was the troll who also has a yt channel Dr. "Right" Paul u guys know who I'm referring to, refuse to click on his videos, deny him the hits.~ Blocks ratings & comments. total butt whore.
Zapppo 1 month ago
@Zapppo You mean, ReaderWriter? I think it's same troll.
annebeck58 1 month ago
Huntsman should be ashamed of himself, better yet drop out of the race. It is a vile video and those who know and follow Dr.Paul's values know that he is not a vicious, mean individual. For the media to pick up this story and run with it is just another glaring example of the media's ongoing onslaught of Dr.Paul's Campaign. Huntsman continues to discuss this video every chance he gets even going so far as to refer to the video as "Ron Paul's video" WTF? See his talk at New England College.
meonetallguy 1 month ago
The Huntsman daughters posted this.
solidsnake2540 1 month ago 2
It could just be the RNC with a tip off for the Huntsman campaign. In 1996, the NYT caught the RNC working against the Paul campaign (Gingrich and then Governor Bush endorsed a Democrat who had just turned Rep. in the race against Ron Paul).
SamFreeman0007 1 month ago
fuck huntsman. "my record is what a record is when you check a record by looking at the record i made when my first record is what i'm talking about and further more my record....". i hate that establishment bastard !
napalmvoododaddy 1 month ago in playlist JON HUNTSMAN
Huntsman. What a loser.
seinfan9 1 month ago 2
disgusting man. he and his daughters are sore losing brats.
jdcool038 1 month ago 2
IF YOU WANNA KNOW WHO THIS VIDEO WAS MADE TO PROMOTE LOOK AT ALL THE SIMILAR VIDEOS------------------->>>>>>>>>
owenish10 1 month ago
That is so dirty
SeanIacono 1 month ago 3
@SeanIacono mmm hmm. quite smarmy..
annebeck58 1 month ago
It's pretty clear that whoever made the video was out to get Ron Paul.
evangrogers 1 month ago 20
@evangrogers ooorrr.. whomever made the video was looking for the sympathy vote for? little Jon Huntsman?!
annebeck58 1 month ago
Will the mainstream media report on this? Probably not.
mersk100 1 month ago 2
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/watch?v=PMA46vPlyjM < Evidence that Jon Huntsman's Daughters are behind this. Please thumbs up this comment and share this video!!!!
anonwoohoo 1 month ago
It's really sad that Hunstman would attack Paul, considering that, while Huntsman was not a full on non-intereventionist, his views on foreign policy and torture were somewhat closer to Paul's than the neocons.
MrAbolitionist 1 month ago 2
How can people even bother about what others thinks about Huntsman? More to track here:
watch?v=GC2rkNNhCAo
SwedenToday1 1 month ago
The coverage is way over board but RP has a lot.....A LOT of kooks supporting him. It just makes it easier to believe it could be Paul Supporters. It looks more suspicious to me that someone would have been dumb enough to use the same video forum and practically the same channel name. Either way I think it is a non issue.
mixmastermeeks 1 month ago
Check out these channels...
/NHLiberty4Huntsman
/NH4Huntsman
/NH4jonhuntsman
/NHfreedom4Romney
/NH4MittRomney
/NH4Santorum
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benjasmine 1 month ago
So...did it occur to anyone else that this entire thing (which is now becoming ridiculous in the sheer spread of new channels and fake forum posts and whatnot) is a massive prank on the "evil mainstream media", who tend to run with things before checking them? Especially the new channels...where are media reports mentioning the video appearing on Romney and Santorum's pages? Seems like this is all a way to make the media look really damn stupid.
seeingthematrixcode 1 month ago 2
This is crazy! Why would someone stoop so low as to attack themselves then blame others for it, especially when it could be easily proven that they did it, then they come off losing all credibility? Ironically enough as I type this on the right is a video titled "Jon Huntsman Is the Candidate We Can Trust" Seriously! This man needs to admit he lied and leave the race, if he had a shred of integrity he would. Shame on you Jon Huntsman! SHAME SHAME SHAME!!!
Baiko4Liberty 1 month ago
this is what we are up against? low class man, low class. Either way We prevail as always.
Christon924 1 month ago
BTW: If you're going to fake Santorum videos, don't make the mistake of using a video capture which shows "300 Views". If you review NH4Santorum's Channel you'll find that 300 views would place the screen capture very early in the life of the YouTube.
Josey2006 1 month ago
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@Josey2006 Why do you even bother trolling? You think anyone wants to read your bullshit? Your comments are disappearing from thumbs down. I'm glad you think I should get a GED, but I suppose it would be a waste considering I already have 3 degrees and I'm a political science major at a top university. "I ain't even trolling". You are just a troll.
promontorium 1 month ago
Why the fuck would anyone bother making an ad attacking Huntsman? I'm not making a joke here. Romney is in the lead and he's been getting off scott free? What a waste of money and time.
promontorium 1 month ago
@promontorium To give the mainstream more fake talking points against Ron Paul who is the only real candidate running !! They can't find anything in Ron's closet so they have to make it up....The globalists are in panic mode as the message of freedom grows.
dgholmz 1 month ago
@promontorium It's to make the other candidates look like they are throwing false punches. It's irritating.. But, these are fake.
757sportbikes 1 month ago
there is a twitter feed on huntsman's campaign site... the creator probably tweeted it with a tag and it showed up on the feed there and someone clicked on it, causing youtube to capture the referral
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Josey2006 1 month ago
MY HEAD JUST SPLODED'
FatLibertarianInOkc 1 month ago 4
Beeteedubs, jon2012.com automatically posts tweets that mention his name. Of course they would mention his name in a tweet containing this video.
samanthalee36 1 month ago
The Casey Anthony video shows up in the "suggestions" column... I thought that was funny.
stevewellz 1 month ago
If I were to guess, I would say that the first video on the 4th about Ron Paul was by a person from Huntsman's campaign who had access to his website in order to refer the video, or by a skilled hacker or team of hackers. I think the other channels are made by random internet trolls though, because they appeared 2 days after the first one.
DrYugeulb 1 month ago
Thank you for posting this - sharing this everywhere.
kathryndelong 1 month ago
thanks for reading the ron paul website.
aetate14 1 month ago
Here is one for Romney too!
/watch?v=zEsF0SFWDQ8&context=C3d64ff2ADOEgsToPDskLUz-BprXf56pEx9drKGuCX
Monkeysniffer08 1 month ago
The Paul page was posted on the 4th. The other two were from the 6th. Any thoughts?
TechMeched 1 month ago 4
@TechMeched WHERE did they get that footage of Huntsman with his baby? It seems like a private video. Also the first visit to the video from an actual website came from jon2012.com. Then we have that slow-loading forum post which is either smoking gun proof of Huntsman and his campaign being behind the VIDEO - OR! that entire message board entry is fabricated from start to finish to slander their campaign. God help us all.
FatLibertarianInOkc 1 month ago 13
@FatLibertarianInOkc What I meant was that the "paul channel" was created and posted the video on the 4th. The "santorum/romney channels" were both created on the 6th and posted their videos on the 6th
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Josey2006 1 month ago
@TechMeched
What's interesting is that this "Who Created The Huntsman Manchurian Candidate Ad?" video came out on the same day that the Santorum video was posted. An amazing find!
Almost as if the person who created the Santorum video also created this video.
Josey2006 1 month ago
@Josey2006 you're a moron. This video came out 2 days after every news outlet in America blasted the lie that Ron Paul put up the Manchurian Candidate video.
promontorium 1 month ago
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@TechMeched
I'm baffled:
NHSantorum Date Joined Jan 6, 2012
NHLiberty4Paul Date Joined Jan 4, 2012
It wouldn't be difficult to:
1. Upload the video from NHLiberty4Paul (sometime after the 4th)
2. Edit the end of the video to refer to Santorum
3. Create an NHSantorum account (on the 6th)
4. Post the new edited video.to NHSantorum (on the 6th)
The fact that there are two similar videos means nothing.
Josey2006 1 month ago
@FatLibertarianInOkc The other mirror pages claiming to be from Santorum, Romney, Huntsman, supporters were probably put up in jest, just to show how easy it was to do and to prove that no one in the national media did any fact checking (beyond apparently sending a message directly to the NH4Liberty page) Huffington Post says the page's owner responded claiming to be asked not to talk to anyone "by the campaign".
promontorium 1 month ago
@promontorium
Exactly.
Theobrothers 1 month ago
@FatLibertarianInOkc
hello, here is a chinese video about huntsman in china, look at /watch?v=uJS7c1FTD1o, and check it on 6:52.
i think that footage is not so private as you thought. some one could get it from some different source, i don't know.
if i were a U.S. voter, i would like to check the one who not involved in the farce, who could be the laughing party behind the scenery.
himitechworld 1 month ago
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@FatLibertarianInOkc
check /watch?v=Ij8slSMMh0c at 0:32, the same footage you talking about.
the clip title is "Utah Governor Jon Huntsman and His Family...", an old opened video in 2009 on youtube about hutsman and his adopted daughter from china.
this shows that footage is not so private. guys can get it very easy.
himitechworld 1 month ago
@TechMeched yes i noticed this as well, it's a little strange that they came on different days. don't know what it means, maybe some type of cover? it's either an internet troll looking for laughs, or more manipulation from one of these campaigns.
Mahatche 1 month ago
@TechMeched you have your dates reversed its clearly posted to daily paul on the 6th and the first hits are all on the 4th review the video
Blizzard0f0zz 1 month ago
@TechMeched - 1. copycats, wanna be's, attention whores, trolls - post more copies and confuse. 2. Attempt to diffuse the blowback. Spread the blame around to everyone. 3. Someones tribute video to Ron Paul that ended up being not what was expected. 4. Idiot kid in the basement whose great idea at 3 A.M. turned out to be a stinker in the light of day. 4. Not a Huntsman video or any other candidate - they have staffs that shoot this kind of crap down because they know it'll backfire.
kerrysballard 1 month ago
@TechMeched As far as who is the creator, has anyone seen Andrew Breitbart lately? This kind of crap (though usually directed at the left) smells like his creations.
kerrysballard 1 month ago
I happened to catch some Fox news at lunch. They totally tried to pin this video on Ron Paul supporters, and interviewed one of Huntsman's daughters (although I didn't catch what she said). I very much doubt that Fox has retracted their suggestion that this video came from Paul's camp.
matahaari 1 month ago
I made a video showing the original website that was behind the attack!!!
/watch?v=8VraC-kONZA
The internet is OUR turf, we will not let the mainstream media move in on our turf with this smear campaign! spread the video to as many people as you can!!!!
RonPaulisacoolguy 1 month ago
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This is totally stupid! Did you ever think that Jon Huntsman has something called a "CAMPAIGN TEAM" that searches the web for publicity, negative or positive? That's kinda part of their JOB, right? Maybe THAT'S why the Huntsman campaign got a hold of it. Jon Huntsman and his campaign are much too intelligent, has way too much faith in God and in our country to stoop to a level low enough to do something as stupid as this.
cschwenky 1 month ago
@cschwenky Then who in the hell made it? I have no idea who it actually originated from. All I know is to blame Ron Paul for it is complete and utter bullshit. I actually kind of like Huntsman. He's not a warmongering whore like most the other candidates. But the way they came out so fast - they're the ones who made this video go viral. Seems fishy but we'll probably never know. There are now SEVERAL NEW fake channels running this video and each says to support someone else.. LOL
FatLibertarianInOkc 1 month ago 7
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cschwenky 1 month ago
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@FatLibertarianInOkc There's a lot of people out there (I know a TON! haha) that have the mentality that they'd rather have anyone BUT a certain candidate. A lot of GOP voters are taking that stance against Barack Obama. Jon Huntsman is a right-of-center moderate, and many conservatives hate that about him. Perhaps these videos were created by one of those conservatives. I agree that it's TOTAL bullshit to blame Ron Paul, but I also say the same about the Huntsman campaign.
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cschwenky 1 month ago
@FatLibertarianInOkc or any other candidates' campaigns. I would like to believe that none of the candidates in the race are this slummy or ignorant to post something as ridiculous as this, but I could be wrong.
cschwenky 1 month ago
@FatLibertarianInOkc
Huntsman supporters most likely made the video. Look it up here:
webcitation(DOT)org/64UwUcknd
Intranetusa 1 month ago
@cschwenky Sure, but that's not how the internet works. You need links to videos to make them popular etc.
Plus, there are so many horrible youtube videos out there slamming different candidates, to pick out a single one and focus on it, within 24 hours of it being posted by a brand new user with 0 followers etc.
Nothing about it is natural.
SmokinTuesdays 1 month ago
@cschwenky Absolutely, I can believe a politician could do that. Pretty damn fishy to me and anyone else when you see who first "pushed" the video (where the first hit came from)... Who the hell would have privy to any of Huntsman's personal footage? This is a sham.
dwalters1981 1 month ago
@cschwenky
Huntsman supporters most likely made the video. Look it up here:
webcitation(DOT)org/64UwUcknd
Intranetusa 1 month ago
@cschwenky When all else fails...how about the truth?
Namso2010 1 month ago
@cschwenky Here's the thing though. How in the fuck are the Huntsman campaign going to get a hold of it, BEFORE everybody else? All first referrals come from his direction at the same time, not just the same day, within the same our. This is when the video had still around 0 views.
I like Huntsman but it's suspicious and it has evidence, more evidence than some newsletters.
SpraxIAKS 1 month ago
Wow the owners think we are all stupid . Thank you for posting .
jzxmissile 1 month ago
I'm glad you posted....
ashokrayvenn 1 month ago
Great job exposing the fraud! We need more of this because the media clearly doesn't play fair. I wonder if John King of CNN asked Santorum to disavow this video.
doublek321 1 month ago
Huntsman is desperate for exposure, he knows if he doesn't do well in NH he's finished so he's pulling out all the stops.
LeJimster 1 month ago
The santorum one was a troll post (look at the upload date). I believe the purpose was to claim how baseless the argument against Ron Paul is regarding his supporter's videos.
thejoolien 1 month ago
@thejoolien Actually, there's a Romney one too.
FatLibertarianInOkc 1 month ago
@FatLibertarianInOkc And a Huntsman one as well
BrettN2011 1 month ago
@BrettN2011 lol!
FatLibertarianInOkc 1 month ago
Thanks for your work exposing this fraudulent attempt to slander Doctor Paul !
Keep fighting the good fight.
TheNewFourthEstate 1 month ago