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  • Susan are you there?

  • Than you quantumsolutions for your videos. Great info..

  • alsalam malaikum, I live in Texas. New convert.Ive been asking about circumcision recently. In my head it wasnt that big of a deal. "He said, they said.." I personally was just going to wait till i found it in the Qu'ran myself. Just makes more sense to me. anyways much thanks to Susan for these vids & the healing praxis!!! :D

  • Thank You, By ALLAH's will you have opened my eyes. I was very confused about this subject until now :)

  • Jut briefly, not related to circumcision.

    I am not a fan of Islam, and I think it is oppressive to women, because women can be beaten in it.

    As to Jesus, what exactly was the message of Jesus aka the message of Mohammad?

    What do Muslims say the message of Jesus Christ was?

    And why is the status of human rights and especially women rights in Islamic societies so backward and terrible, but not so in Christian societies, or Buddhist societies, or Jewish societies?

  • I've read the Qur'an.

    Nowhere within it is genital cutting (for either gender) mentioned.

    It does say the body is created perfect and requires no alteration. For example read 3:191, 4:119, 15:28-29, 27:88, 32:7, 67:3, and

    82:7-8 The One who created you, designed you, and perfected you. In whatever design He chose, He constructed it.

    95:4 We created man in the best design.

    NO national medical association on earth (not even Israel's) endorses routine circumcision.

  • @TLCTugger Thank you!! I've got Muslims begging me to recount what I've said here and they are just wasting their time.

    Peace to you.

  • @quantumsolutions i don't know about that. but somewhere in the quran, it said something about following the "religion of Ibrahim, the upright in faith" or something.

    and i think in Abraham's teachings, circumcision is mandatory.

  • Circumcision removes the most sensitive part of a man's penis. The five most sensitive areas of the penis are on the foreskin. The transitional region from the external to the internal foreskin is the most sensitive region of the fully intact penis, and more sensitive than the most sensitive region of the circumcised penis.

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    Fine-Touch Pressure Thresholds In The Adult Penis

    British Journal of Urology International,

    2007, Vol. 99, No. 4, 864-869

    Sorrells et al.

  • 6:how can satan misled muslims in a practice which has been introduced by the prophet himself and has continued from generations to generations and is beyond dispute .why cannot satan misled the muslims in the case of the quran if it is recieved from the same source as the sunnah?

  • @THEGREATESTUMMAH Well, then if we could just infallibly hand down rites as performed during Muhammad's time, why the need for Qur'an and it's special protection from ever changing? I believe because it would come to this very issue of Islam being so muddied up with conjecture that it would have to be cleansed again using the Quran. The Quran serves as the litmus test of what to do or not to do and to my thinking circumcison does not add up. And clearly I'm not alone. Do you vaccinate your son?

  • @quantumsolutions 1: The religion contained in the Qur’ān consists of core guidance. Details and application of all the injunctions have not been provided in the Qur’ān. These things have been left for the Prophet (sws) to explain. The entire edifice of Islam is built on the building blocks of the sunnah of the Prophet (sws). The Qur’ān, for example, only gives basic directives regarding the ritual prayer, fast, ḥajj, zakāh and other rites and rituals.

  • @THEGREATESTUMMAH You said "details and application of all the injuctions have not been provided in the Quran"

    Read surahs 16:89,,17:89,,18:54,,30:58,,39­:27,,,and

    43:2: I swear by the Book that makes things clear:

    How can a book make things clear if it doesnt explain them?

    peace

  • @quantumsolutions 2:If we set aside the sunnah we will only be left with principal guidance of the Qur’ān and will remain ignorant as to how they are to be practiced, as it happened with the followers of the religion of Abraham, the so-called ḥanīfs.God Almighty sent the Prophet (sws) to make the Qur’ān clear. He is the best exemplar who sets paradigmatic example of the Qur’ānic teachings. He has beautifully fulfilled this function.

  • @THEGREATESTUMMAH

    Shirk.

    "And how should I fear what you have set up, while you do not fear that you have set up with Allah that for which He has not sent down to you any authority; which then of the two parties is surer of security, if you know?" Surah 6:81

  • @quantumsolutions 3: God Almighty arranged the two sources to be the way they are: He arranged sunnah to remain completed beyond doubt, because it was to be a part of His last message.the act that qualifies as sunnah is undoubtedly authentic -- quite as authentic as the Qur'an itself .what has vaccination do with islam.Circumcison has been introduced as a part of those religious practices which are binding on us,it has reached us through a authentic source as the quran.

  • @THEGREATESTUMMAH

    This is authentic? watch?v=CBVdOMyhido

    Circumcision are teachings of satans.

    We uphold the original deen PERFECTED by Allah in the Quran. Surah 5:5

    Allah does not make mistakes, nor does He err: Surah 4:82, 20:52

    If it contains one mistake, it does not come from Allah.

    Hadith is rife with mistakes.

    You are welcome to uphold teachings of satans. But understand this: The Muslims stand ready to fight against the lies and oppression you desire to bring. Surah 2:216

    Peace.

  • @THEGREATESTUMMAH you said "how can satan misled muslims"

    6:112 And thus did We make for EVERY prophet an enemy, the Shaitans from among men and jinn, some of them suggesting to others varnished falsehood to deceive (them), and had your Lord pleased they would not have done it, therefore leave them and that which they forge.

  • 5:of course there is no compulsion in religion but When my child is young and not in a position to take decisions for his benefit, I decide for him. When he grows old and becomes mentally mature, he takes over the decision-making role for himself. I didn’t consult him on the question whether he wanted to go to school or not. I knew that going to school was beneficial for him. Likewise was my decision to get him circumcised.

  • 4:circumcision helps muslims in remaining pure after urinating. If you are not a circumcised man, it is likely that after urinating some drops would remain stuck in the flesh which would make you unclean. God wants His servants to be clean from not just inside but from outside as well.Girl cirmumcision is not allowed in Islam because it is not a sunnah.circumcision has got some medical benefits as well,if you wish i can throw some light on that.

  • @THEGREATESTUMMAH If this is the case then rip off your fingernails and while your at it cut off your ears because they get dirty too. Muslims wash with water after urinating. i think this should be sufficient, don't you?

  • @quantumsolutions clipping the nails is a sunnah and is therefore binding on us.if cutting of ears was a religous obligation it should have been mentioned in the quran or the sunnah,it is not..Circumcision is certainly more hygenic.

  • @THEGREATESTUMMAH

    You are not a Muslim. You are an Islamist. You follow teachings of satans.

    Circumcision is teachings of the ancients, found in the Bible.

    Genital mutilation: Gen. 17:13-14, Gen. 17:23-25, Exo. 4:24-26

    It is not in the Quran.

    You are given reminder and warned for following teachings beside what Allah revealed. Surah 7:3

    Peace.

  • @THEGREATESTUMMAH you said " circumcision helps mulsims in remaining pure after urinating"

    Are you saying Allah did not make us perfect? Are you saying Allah would purposely make us in a fashion that we would constantly be unclean and have to chop off a body part to avert that? Where is your proof? Since your going by the bible, go look up why abraham supposedly circumsized as it had nothing to do with cleanliness.

  • 3: Islam is not a new religion but rather a continuation of God's message to mankind. The practice of circumcision was transmitted from the Prophet Abraham to the Prophet Muhammad and unto us. Thus, circumcision, as a part of Abraham's religion, was instituted before Islam, as the Prophet Muhammad had delivered it to mankind.

  • @THEGREATESTUMMAH And according to the story, Abraham pbuh did it as an old man. Anyway we are warned that those texts have been tampered with. And I have seen an Egyptian hieroglyph showing the practice and what of African tribes that practice it even though they were neither Jew, Christian or Muslim. I think it is bloodlust and perversion from Shaitan. My opinion. You are free to cut yourself but you are not free to cut another human being even if it is your child. May consciousness rise.

  • @quantumsolutions The fact of the matter is that cirumcision has come to down to us through a source as authentic as the quran and is therefore beyond dispute.Cirumcision is not based whether the text was tampered with or not,it has come down to us throuht the perpetual practical adherence of the ummah just like the quran and is therefore beyond dispute.

  • @THEGREATESTUMMAH

    Where is your proof Abraham pbuh,,circumsized his children? Its not in the Quran,,,are you upholding the bible when the Quran does not confirm it? Shame on you.

  • 2:In regards to the Makkans in 7th century Arabia it should be appreciated that they did indeed circumcise the boys in the family. Hence, the Prophet was indeed circumcised before his prophetic appointment at the age of 40.

  • @THEGREATESTUMMAH This is nothing but conjecture and conjecture avails nothing against truth.

    But I'm sure you already know that as a consistent reader of Qur'an.

  • 1;the question is about the authenticity of the sunnah,it has been transmitted through as authentic a source of Qur'an and is, therefore, beyond dispute. That is the sunnah which has been transmitted to us through an unbroken chain of continued practice passed on from one generation to another.In case of Sunnah it is not majority but unanimity that counts. All companions did it, likewise all religious Muslims of later times did it.

  • @THEGREATESTUMMAH Where is the proof that they ALL did it. I have one son who seems naturally circumcised. i have heard others say the same. And I have heard that Muhammad, pbuh fell into this category. There's no way for any of us to verify this of course so I turn to Quran not a group of people who tell me what to do.

    Christians seem unanimous that Jesus pbuh was the son of Allah. Does that make it truth?? The logic doesn't hold up. sorry.

  • @quantumsolutions how do you know the quran which we have with us today is the same as revealed to the prophet.All Muslim generations, from the Prophet (sws) to us, have followed it without a break.all muslim generations ,frome the prophet to us,have followed the sunnah likewise.If you reject sunnah you have to reject the quran as well because both have been received through the same process.

  • @THEGREATESTUMMAH You said "how do we know its the same Quran prophet got"

    18:1 praise is due to Allah, Who revealed the Book to His servant and did not make in it any crookedness.

    41:42: Falsehood shall not come to it from before it nor from behind it; a revelation from the Wise, the Praised One

    Thegreatestummah,,,if you truly believe in the Quran ,,have made ivestigation,,and verified that its from Allah then how can you refute 41:42?

  • they only want to circumcise women because thier blatant disrespect toward women. They dont want them to enjoy sex, therefore lessening the possibilty that the woman would cheat on them.Isnt that what its all about... more control over the woman.....I am fearfully and wonderfully made =]

  • @wakingup2010 false, they circumcise men too. At least they aren't sexist like Jews, they mutilate bother genders. They just think sexual pleasure is bad.

  • genital mutilation is just that,,,,,Mutilation! Not to mention it steals from the individual to have a normal sex life when they mature and marry.

    Good vid.

    peace

  • Circumcision is not needed, because Faith is sufficient. =) Peace

  • bless you sister

  • Ji-Had Joooe!

  • /watch?v=PquCGVsmUJU

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