Lord Willin' y'all go it w/GOD, GodIS REAL,not a'delusion',not a'virus', not a'program' Lord Willin' but for real,Lord Forgive be i or any wrong or offbase&prayers for all in need, for mr d,h,h,s etc.&Most Importantly God'sWillBeDone PLGB
cf. GodsJigsawPuzzle blogspot, Bible.cc, usccb naB, alpha course, everystudentsite, Way Of The Master/180movie (though even hitler i mayn't judge) &revere The LORD and serve God and neighbor, PLGB y'all go it w/ God choose God choose life (jn.3:16,deut.30...)
@yellowlynx nope, sorcery/divination/idolatry are 'against' the OT Law apparently. Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase. and LORD Willin' is likely the only way anything may be, though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
seek The LORD, who is not 'evil' nor a 'virus' but the Way Truth And Life By GOD, praise God praise The LORD alpha course everystudent website Bible.cc usccb naB n Lord Forgive Lord Willin' be i wrong or offbase
@lockinglugnut seek The GOBLIN, who is not 'PENUS' nor 'the Milkey River of Life' but the Way Divine Blessings of Sacred ORGASM By the LORD and SAVIOR in the Male DELTA, praise BatMan, praise The Bopokn of Hysterekronomy alpha course everyGardenGOBLIN website Bible.cc usb naB/JWD n SAHTAN Forgive, if Lord Willy be wrong or offbase
Do you have a clue, why the Holy man in Black, I mean the one with the dreadloXX glued to his Hat, constantly bangs his head at the Holy-Wall-Of-Complaints?
@hoodmilk He refers to "LORD WILLY" iow his own resurrecting flesh. You must know, he is very clever in disguising, that he is a Divine Emissary of Penus(the)Christus! Hope that helps.
@lockinglugnut Let me challenge you with this - Jesus did not make any sacrifice for us. A true sacrifice is that one gives up something he/she could not get back. Jesus died and fully aware that he was going to live again - what he did is NOT sacrifice but just a display to impress himself.
@yellowlynx except that it's said in Scripture that things we sacrifice in this life Lord Willing we may receive back hundredfold and also gain eternal life.
still took faith on Christ's part to believe, from His human standpoint, in that connectivity with God and accept God's Will. moreover, tis not like His Suffering and actual Lord Have Mercy being
@lockinglugnut Jesus/God probably suffered from some schizophrenia, having himself killed only to pay for the "wages of sin" back to himself and pleases himself, no wonder he cannot do a real sacrifice....
@yellowlynx ....no.... a) Sacrifice/Passover/Fulfillment Lord Willing Is Real b) GOD is not 'diseased' or 'disordered' but prayers for His Healing Lord Willing on those or any of us who suffer, and moreso His Kingdom Come and Will Be Done PLGB
@yellowlynx killed are apparently 'taken away' by His Resurrection, He Still Endured such. just as it's not justification to kill someone to send them on an 'early trip' to God's Judgment/Heaven or by 'human condemnation/thought', which counts Lord Willing for nothing, 'hell' (choose God choose life and may all find He and Heaven and Life). notice also in His Glorified Presence/Body (lk.24) He Still Has the stigmata, PLGB praise GOD Amen n Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase.
@lockinglugnut Jesus just had an awful weekend, and got INFINITE / ETERNAL Glory in Heaven with all the goodness, how about those suffered unspeakably in sickness, war, famine and natural disasters ? All of them suffered much more than Jesus. Jesus got his life back and that is by not means anyway a sacrifice. Only if Jesus remains in Hell, burn in Hell, and suffer in Hell for eternity will be counted as a genuine sacrifice - the resurrection means he got back what he gave up.
@yellowlynx an 'awful weekend'? CHRIST was beaten and likely starved. abandoned by many who 'hailed him in'. tortured. insulted. forced to carry His own instrument of torture. nailed to it. hung apparently ~3 hours that way. still insulted. attempted to be fed vinegar/gall. watching soldiers gamble over his stuff. taunted. killed in agony.
'hell' cannot contain GOD/sinless Christ. though it is said based on mt.28 He Went to 'sheol' and hence the once dead Rose By God
@yellowlynx /Christ. praise The LORD. and see my comments on the Above about 'God With us' His Own Presence, Father, Son, And Spirit. He's 'been there' with us/Above and Lord Willing among us for a time, a combination of time longer than any lifespan of a human likely, even before the fall was He there praise GOD. to Restore all things in His Way Truth and Life may we trust HE Above we.
@yellowlynx He Fulfills Lord Willing as Temple, Priest perhaps (hb.4), Lamb/Sacrifice (rev., jn.1, jn.18/19, mt.2/27, lk.22/23, mk.14/15), and Surviving Son (cf. ex., mt.28, mk.16, lk.24, jn.20/21, thanks ross n thank God) of Passover, praise God n Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase. Fulfillment of Law, Sacrifice and Legacy of God's Salvation/Life Eternal, and Fulfillment of Prophecy, fast and feast, PLGB
@feng1584 錯了，宗教只是人類文明發展的產物，在對大自然無知懼怕中硬塞一個解釋、然後被統治者利用來壓制平民，說他們的統治者是天上的神既代表 (埃及法老是被認為是天上的神 Ra 降生地上、中國皇帝是天子、西方羅馬帝國皈依基督教後羅馬皇帝是君權神授等)，大部份人只是從小被人教導相信有神、去相信自己需要神、而以為自己沒有神不行，實際上只要父母、學校沒有法子自小灌輸宗教信仰，大部份人所謂的宗教需要是不存在的。
@feng1584 go to Bible.cc everystudent website.science cannot overturn God Who Made all, PLGB find HIs Way Truth And Life (jn.14) n Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase
@yellowlynx science cannot overturn God because He Made it! read The Bible!! praise God, Bible.cc usccb naB 'Blessed/Happy are those who've 'not seen' and still believed' but oh tis difficult i think not to perceive His Work and Presence pretty much everywhere He Wills. Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase, PLGB maybe also try everystudent website or alpha course
@lockinglugnut those who've 'not seen' and still believed' - we called them superstitious. God did not make science, and the Bible is written by a bunch of bronze age shepherds, copying myths from Babylon, Egypt and Assyrians. Out of 27 books of the New Testament, over half of them were written by people who lived long after the "supposed death of Jesus", 6 letters claimed to be written by Paul is known to be forged, the two letters by Peter are forged...
@yellowlynx superstitions actually, i think, are based on 'misguided evidence'. maybe similar to 'old wives' tales'.
how do you know the two letters of peter weren't initially from peter?? may be similar with paul. folks/copyists over the years have probably copied, compiled, etc. the NT especially. matthew's Gospel may've been originally matthew's, but the eldest known copies of such seem likely to be after his passing! though i think we've pretty 'close to date' paul idea
@lockinglugnut Superstitions are belief not based on evidence (misguided evidence are not evidence). The manuscripts of New Testaments were in Greek, not just basic Greek but Greek of a person who had formal training in rhetoric and composition, but according to Christian tradition, Peter was an uneducated, illiterate fisherman from Galilee, who could only speak Aramaic, he could not have written it.
@yellowlynx science in the past *has* been based on misguided evidence. take spontaneous generation as an example of such a theory. or earlier atomic theory.
peter was as educated as he needed to be, he had God and Christ and Spirit.
*actually* much of the NT is in koine greek, which is quite different from say homer's/epic greek. and who says he didn't learn at some point?? or that he didn't meet somebody who could write it out for him. we don't know
@lockinglugnut Like you said, the thing about based on misguided evidence is a thing of the past. Having said that, Christians still have not provide direct evidence of God / Jesus existence. Even though much of the New Testament is Koine Greek, it still needed formal instruction in Greek composition and rhetoric, which clearly the twelve disciples had none of that. By New Testament's own account, Peter was described as "unlettered", which also means he was illiterate (see Acts)
@yellowlynx GOD Has Provided. And Proven. Creation's all around you. the OT is essentially mostly if not all about that. and He Did not need to but did. praise GOD
'clearly the disciples had none of' can you 'prove' that? or that no *scribes* or *authorities* were among their ranks. luke was a physician, matthew a tax collector apparently.
maybe peter was 'unlettered' at the time of acts. or maybe someone 'helped a brother out', doesn't mean it's not from him/his! praise GOD
@lockinglugnut Only small and ignorant mind like you thought that "Creation" is all around - physics, chemistry and biology all provided a much plausible answer that "Creator". If there is a Creator, who created the Creator ? Moreover this Creator is stupid and is a great failure, 99.9999% of all livings on Earth were extinct, quite a bad performance, and those we still see around, are littered with design flaws that no human engineer will commit.
@lockinglugnut Tacitus referred to Christus what was the name the Christians called the god they worship - in any evidence, this only constituted a "hearsay", not a direct evidence.
@yellowlynx Christ yes....God*'s Presence In Him Lord Willing, PLGB
watch the ewtn series 'The Heavens Proclaim' Lord Willing the laws and analogies of the universe seem very much Created and very much By GOD, not 'random' though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase, He Doth not fail!
@lockinglugnut No scientists said the universe arose by randomness, for an orderly universe to arise, it does not need God either, as physicists have concluded.
@lockinglugnut physics, chem, and biology showed that the universe and living beings were formed by purely natural processes that DO NOT require a creator. The "Big Bang" was not the beginning as physicist knew it, and neither was the universe designed. The so called "living things created by God" had 99.9999% extinct, this God failed miserably!
@yellowlynx Word Himself has even proved true! praise God! none likely without God's Will/ Support though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbse
the disciples apparently didn't all just 'plop' in palestine forever. it's said peter was even arrested/brought to rome. not 'educational circumstances' but still.
the third to last line of first peter he thanks his 'brother silvanus' for assistance in transmitting the letter. that doesn't mean it's not his, so maybe he had assistance
@lockinglugnut You are just using circular arguments without a shred of evidence of God's existence or that Jesus existed. You claim that Peter had assistance from a brother, but that required the person to be both fluent in Aramaic and Greek, which was so much more improbable than the case of two letters be written by a Greek without involving Peter, and calling himself Peter (i.e. the letters were forged).
@yellowlynx The Bible....and some historical account. a 'brother' in the apostolate sense, not necessarily his brother relative like andrew. *the letter itself says so!*
how many languages, i wonder, did paul or a scribe or pharisee in the 'dispersion' know? though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase
the proof of GOD is all around you, and Christ Spoke Truth n The Bible n Quran Lord Willing on Him. cf. strobel's case for Christ series perhaps as well. there's the evidence
Lord Willing do not 'close your eyes' to the forest and say there are no trees, metaphorically speaking. be open,see, By GOD, jn.9! PLGB n Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase
You will stand before the powerful throne of GardenGoblins. Repent, or face the awakening on the last day, when they will hold your spiritual body accountable, for all the pseudoapologetic nonsense, that you deceived mankind with, and infected their innocent brains, during lifetime!
@kleenex3000 GOD*, and Lord Willing/need be i repent friend.
Bible.cc usccb naB faith is not an infection, tis a Gift for all, please Lord Willing take it, for life, Salvation, n The LORD most of all be very important
On your KNEEZ and: Repent! And worship the true Creator G-D, Penus(the)Christus, the Lord of Lords, the Father of Fathers. Consider WHERE you came from, namely from the CaveO'Creation of you Mother - and HOW did you get into??? Certainly not by the STORK. Rather by the Milkey River Of Life from your Father!
@lockinglugnut I looked and there is no forest. If you say you have seen God, show the evidence. To be open does not mean you have to believe in things that the Bible said -- the Bible is a human written document, full of mistakes, inconsistencies, contradictions and forgeries.
@lockinglugnut I saw more disproof of God than any positive evidence of God existence - Strobel was wrong in many of his concepts of physics and his ideas are debunked by physicists, skeptics and free thinkers. In Roman times, literacy level was below 10%, and the so called literate people could only write a short sentence - a typical village scribe who was considered literate was one who could sign documents with his signature with a short standard phrase, and that's it
@yellowlynx This lockinglug Nutter is irrational and he comprehends but irrational argumetation, an example being provided in my previous comment. Please, do the same; he is very receptive to GardenGoblins, HangMan, Reptile Annunakou Illuminati!
@yellowlynx writing, praise The LORD! how formal a greek education was available in tarsus or the province of 'asia'? just curious, as paul seemed to be 'well lettered' from that, and also apparently a 'roman citizen' despite being a Jew/Christian, etc. praise GOD n Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
His Plan greater than ours (is.55) trust He Above we (prov.3) fail Lord Willing He Does not if He Wills not, Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase
@lockinglugnut Formal Greek education was available in Tarsus because that was a Greco-Roman region, not in Palestine. Further more Paul came from a more wealthy family (that's why he could get Roman citizenship). For the 12 disciples (not Paul), they were from the grassroots level, a poor region in Palestine where Greek education was not available.
@lockinglugnut Why not just say you don't know the answer, rather than saying "His plan is greater than ours" ? At least you will be honest in admitting that you don't know!
@yellowlynx because Lord Willing that is One Truth i do know, that if The LORD Wills it, He Doth not fail, and His Plan Is Greater (is.55) prov.3:5 Lord Forgive for that which i do not 'know' Lord Willing, and if You Will it Lord Work Through me however You Will and if i may know to know. but that He Knows is Most Important. PLGB
@lockinglugnut Then try ask the Lord to will that I drop dead right away as a test of so called "Lord Willing" and "His existence".. XD
Rather than asking the Lord to forgive you, why not you have some guts to admit to non-believers that you are ignorant and wrong ? Too afraid to admit it ?
'you shall not put The GardenGoblin or your SpiderMan to the test' kybernetic Quotes such in mt.4, it's from Hysterekronomy!
and HangMan values subterrestrian life (ez.33, Hades 3, 1kg.3 perhaps, etc.) Priestesse Saliva and Lord Willy
GOBLIN Is not wrong, i mayn't 'know everything' myself but He Does
'Penus(the)Christus Is my Light and my Salvation, of whom should i be afraid?' from the Starfish Imitation....23 maybe, SahTahn, Forgive be i wrong or offbase P-LGBT UKW LMAO
@lockinglugnut Answer me, why did Elijah put Yahweh to test by setting up and altar, put a sacrificial lamb on it, splash it with water, and challenged the prophets of Baal ? Wasn't that an act to "put the LORD to test ?" That "LORD" is you God, and as far as I am concerned it doesn't exist. God values life? So why did he kill all lives on Earth with the flood ? See ? You religion and the Bible is full of contradictions!
@yellowlynx that was not elij-h attempting to test GOD, it was the folks he was around (i.e. the 'false'/'pagan prophets') that were not believing. elij-h believed, he was simply putting an example forward to them. he was not 'testing' God, but trusting He'd Pull Through, as He Did,praise GOD.
God Does Value life. (noah+seven others were Saved during the flood, Lord Willing, so not all life from earth was taken)who says the souls of those passed away did not find Repose unto GOD?
@lockinglugnut Elijah tried to prove to the woshippers of Baal by putting both Baal and Yahweh to a test.You say Yahweh values live and save 8 people and killed the rest of the world - do you mean the rest of the people Yahweh killed were not human or not lives ? XD
@yellowlynx elijah was not putting anyone to the test. he believed in GOD alone, and was *demonstrating* a truth Lord Willin', in terms that culture and those folks could understand. it never says in The Scripture for a moment that elijah believed in baal, or was attempting to 'test' God. cf.1kg18 (was a bull apparently btw, Lord Have Mercy)
the other eight remained on earth, did you not read the rest of the words i'd noted there?? about Repose Lord Willing potentially or
@lockinglugnut So why did Elijah asked god to show that he is God ? I just ask you to pray to god to have my life taken to show that you god is God, you believe in God and all I am asking you is to demonstrate the truth ? What is the difference ?
@yellowlynx perhaps they'd reached Heaven or come to believe or come to stop suffering on earth and would one day encounter The LORD if not that day? that they weren't necessarily killed? however, that's not an 'excuse' for humanity to kill, judgment is not ours, tis God's, and value human life He Does, Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB. he mayn't have 'killed' any, but simply swept the remainder of life unto himself or away for a time, life's in The Spirit Lord Willin
@lockinglugnut Don't forget, in the great flood there were a lot of children babies and unborn fetus, do you seriously think they deserve to be killed? You Christians claim that God is all knowing and loving, then why can't he just pick out those who are truly guilty and just kill those, instead of "swept the remainder of life unto himself" ? Only and idiot like you worship a god as idiotic as you.
@yellowlynx i cannot judge or say who deserves what, and again you're using the word 'killed', which is not used to my knowledge in the Scripture, so much as end or sweep away or occasionally strike.
the Text also states 'unrighteous otherwise', and if children/unborn are so innocent, then none would likely be involved. though again even those swept away i cannot judge. perhaps The LORD brought them unto Himself as they weren't handling earthly life too well apparently PLGB
@lockinglugnut Hahaha...sending a great flood... I know the word scripture used -- "destroy" - so destroying people is not killing ? XDDDDDDDD
Did the scripture say only Noah and his family were alive ? The others were not "killed " ? Come on, that's the kind of shit the Alpha course teach you ? Wow... that's really NOT a course for children!
@yellowlynx look up the strong's, it can mean wipe out, wipe away, strike, etc. as well! though yes it does have destructive/extermination meanings potentially as well, Lord Have Mercy. 'The Spirit Returns To God Who Gave It' says ecc.12 though, so 'utterly destroyed' perhaps not so.
never took alpha, wouldn't know, read The WORD, believed, dealt with apologetics and testimony online, etc. Insightful Lord Willin, trust always He Above we, PLGB
@lockinglugnut Yeah yeah yeah... wipe out/wipe away/strike are not the same as "killing"... Adolf Hitler could say he just wiped out/wiped away 6 million Jews... XDDDDDDD
@yellowlynx hitler is not GOD and even hitler i mayn't judge. his word was not Scripture, and Create The Universe He Did not. God Knows Best, PLGB n prayers for victims of the holocaust and otherwise, and perpetrators as well, even hitler himself Lord Willing, and prayers God's Will Be Done!
@lockinglugnut Yes I know... all moral standards that applied to human being God is exempted... so God can rape a woman, you can just say God did not rape but just "penetrated"... XDDDD Using word tricks like wipe away etc. to cover God's ass is futile.. God kills.. in Exodus, he killed babies!
@yellowlynx even if He's Exempt from 'The Law', He Is Still GOOD. simply because He's Capable of potentially doing things of that sort does not mean He Does, because He Is All Good, and His Law and Covenant are meant to help us see that and strive to live as He'd Have us. He Doesn't 'rape' or 'kill' and just 'make up' words for it. again, read The Word with belief, witness, and openness friend, not in this 'worldly' or 'evil-seeking' or 'blind' or 'closedeyed' sort of way
@lockinglugnut God is exempted from the Law, and God Does what He Does, He can simply kill and rape and declare that to be "good" - and God did kill people and God allowed His people to get away with rape in Leviticus - the Law that allow rapist to settle the crime by paying money - so if Jesus fulfilled the Law, then you could rape and settle it by paying money, sell your daughter as a slave for a good price etc.
@lockinglugnut You simply making empty assertions by repeating declaring that God is good, ignoring evidences in the Bible that showed him to be the contrary - He ordered massive killings, he ordered his people to kill whoever led them to worship other gods, he ordered genocides and instruct his people to show no mercy.
@yellowlynx God Says in exodus apparently that He 'Strikes' egypt and that the firstborn of the egyptians who were not obeying would die. at least in the egyptian/worldly view they may've seemed as dead. 'kill' is not the word used here again perhaps, though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase. perhaps Lord Willing He Brought them unto Himself. i hope/pray those children found The LORD, perhaps as possible in noah's time, those who struggled among unrighteousness and be unto Him
@lockinglugnut Hahahaha... you are making up things that were not mentioned in scriptures -- in Exodus, God killed all firstborn of Egyptians, no mention about "who were not obeying", in other words, all firstborn of Egyptians including small babies were killed by God! "kill" is not the word used, but the action is still killing, taking their lives, not "brought them to Himself" - and if some of them were sinners deserve to go to Hell, do you mean that God is Devil (at Hell)?
@yellowlynx uhh....nine prior times the egyptians are noted as disobeying God. they may be otherwise noted in that portion of Scripture as practicing idolatry and or attempts at 'magic', unLawful/unTrue apparently things, Lord Have Mercy
God is not 'the devil' nor 'fallen' like that, Lord Have Mercy prayers that even satan himself would repent if need be and even he i mayn't judge perhaps
if He 'Takes their lives', in a literal sense that implies perhaps Taking them somewhere
@lockinglugnut The Ten Commandments were not issued then, and prior to that, NONE of Old Testament's account claimed that God would punish people for worshiping other gods - so your claim that they practiced idolary/magic was the reason God killed them was unfounded. The 9 times was the Pharaoh who disobeyed, not the Egyptian in general - learn your Bible first!
@yellowlynx good point on the Decalogue friend. pharaoh and perhaps his 'court' disobeyed, and recall his whole army remaining after the Passover chases after the egyptians. and the 'magicians', etc. so perhaps Lord Willing indeed it was not 'just pharaoh', though even he i mayn't judge
even before The Law, from Genesis 1 onward the point is that God's Love is freely Given and hopefully to be freely chosen. going against trust in He Above we/me or idols or false deities etc.
@lockinglugnut Oh.. perhaps and perhaps and perhaps.. so the Bible is SO UNCLEAR about things that you SO UNSURE THAT you have to "perhaps" all the way long ? XDDDDD
@lockinglugnut oh perhaps Hitler is a god.. he just took 6 million Jews unto himself.... oh technically he only put them in gas chambers, the word used was not "kill"...hahahahaha
(Prove to me that Hitler is not God, and that Jesus is not the grandson of Flying Spaghetti Monster ... XDDD)
@yellowlynx The LORD Said 'I AM The LORD your GOD, there is none besides me', thanks pentateuch and thank GOD, that's sufficient and only the beginning. there's also Christ's 'Good tree, Good fruit' logic, praise GOD
Christ Is The SON And Word And Spirit of God Made flesh, you've to read and believe and prayerfully discern the Scripture, and you too friend may understand, though LORD Forgive be i wrong or offbase, even hitler i mayn't judge, PLGB.
@lockinglugnut Christ said, love you enemies, but God revenged Egyptians by having all Egyptian firstborn (from Pharaoh to common citizen) killed because their Pharaoh ordered his troops to kill Hebrew boys - tell me why did God revenge indiscriminately ?
@yellowlynx again, Lord Willing, may their lives be unto Him. Christ IS Lord Willin fully God's Presence in a fully human form.
God Doesn't 'indiscriminately avenge' so to speak. and the people were warned by moses unto pharaoh that something terrible was coming (cf. 'storm warning'pt). moreover, pharaoh was not likely alone in this order, why would moses be hidden as a child if only pharaoh were executing this order but none other?? though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
@yellowlynx and apparently also hitler's 'Christianity' cut stuff out of Scripture, which would make such Lord Willing in defiance of GOD, though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
@yellowlynx hitler was *raised* by Catholic parents. he himself was *not* Catholic. he spoke of Christianity 'purged of Judaism'. yet Christ Lived A Perfectly Obedient Jewish Life and came 'not to destroy the Jewish Law/prophets, but Fulfill' according to The Gospel.
the church in that sense, is an earthly institution postulating in God's Name. that does not vouch for every church nor every member of a given church acting for or against Scripture or God, prayers they all be
@lockinglugnut Hitler was baptized, and the Nazis army wore the crucifix. The purge of Jews was supported by words of Martin Luther, as well as Jesus, who called the fathers of the Jews devil.
@yellowlynx anyone can wear a crucifix. anyone can unfortunately claim to do something 'in The Name Of GOD'. that doesn't make their action or interpretation necessarily Christian. again, hitler apparently 'cut out' parts of Scripture that were ok with Judaism, etc. Christ Himself Lived on earth an obedient Jewish life. Fulfilling Jewish Law and prophecy. praise GOD.
Jesus did not call Jews 'the devil', He may've taken issue with traditions or actions of theirs, but
@yellowlynx i don't recall in Scripture Christ claiming all Jews or Jews in general or even a specific Jew was 'the devil'. some referred to His Work this way, and He Said some things like dishonesty were from 'the evil one', and He Told peter 'get behind me satan' (accuser, 'advocate of the worldly') but i don't believe that means He Found peter to be the devil, just the attitude of trusting human nature or worldly or fleshly or evil things above God, Lord Forgive be i wrong or
@yellowlynx for Him though, n Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase, even hitler n churches that 'stood' for some or all of what he did i mayn't judge, but pray that all n they come to accept The Way Truth And Life of GOD PLGB
@lockinglugnut the Way Truth And Life of GOD came two thousand years ago, and all it brought about were bloodshed, slave trading, bigotry, discrimination to women, invasion to South Americans and destroy their civilization - if that is the way, the truth and life, then you can have it -- we don't want it!
@yellowlynx Jesus *never* told anyone to go kill off natives, to my knowledge. idolatry had a high price in the OT Law, true, and spiritually Lord Have Mercy it may still, but Jesus By GOD Said we're not to condemn/judge our neighbors, in jn.8 even 'thwarted' a 'lawful' 'death penalty' invocation, and said in the vineyard Parable it seems that folks who find Him and go it w/ God first or last hour or anytime in between receive the same Reward, PLGB praise GOD Amenn
@lockinglugnut Yahweh did tell people to kill of natives like those in Canaan. Those Spanish colonial invaders all prayed to God and Jesus, how could you prove that "Jesus never told them to do so" ? If Yahweh can command Joshua, Moses etc. to commit acts of genocide, surely by the same faith you accepted OT, killing of South American natives would also be justified.
@yellowlynx because we assess what GOD/Christ Says by The Scripture, like paul says. God/Christ don't 'defy' His Own Word and Spirit!! not all who say 'Lord Lord', though even they i cannot judge and hope/pray they found His Way Truth And Life and repented if need be.
i've noted on the canaanites ,etc. some earlier as well. perhaps metaphorical. or perhaps we misunderstand 'the ban' or doom. confusion between spiritual and physical things, etc. though Lord Forgive be i wrong or
@lockinglugnut offbase. not genocide Lord Willing. there are canaanites even into Christ's time apparently, see how The Presence of GOD in Christ deals with the canaanite woman in Scripture, though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase. and i pray all come reverently unto Him and away from any idolatry or disbelief (that which is sin/'blindness'/'closed-hearted/eyed'/causes/leads to suffering)for all are welcome who would n Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase. He Is Perfect In He
@yellowlynx is throwing away that trust. and that folks Lord Have Mercy can reject His Love and Truth potentially, though i pray that all may come not to PLGB
again go read The Scripture openly, Lord Willing fully, with witness and trust in GOD, and not in a 'worldly' or 'evil-seeking way', if you're doing so now, Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase, esp. since you've such an interest in quoting it now, but even if you hadn't
apologies on the Decalogue, 'Law' was not required
@lockinglugnut I was a Sunday School Teacher and taught scriptures in church for years and I know what I am talking about - I read it to see the words in its plain meaning and there is no mistake that the scripture is ridden with mistakes and contradictions - its not "worldly" nor "evil seeking" but simply a manner any sensible, rational and one with proper education, not blind irrational faith can see it.
@yellowlynx 'i'....that's not the issue here 'i'.....it's GOD! read it all, as The LORD would have it, and i hope and pray you make a return unto The LORD
prov.3:5 says to Trust He Above we/me, our 'own understanding/nature' without God may be nothing.
@lockinglugnut there is no evidence of God's existence, and the Bible is full of errors, forgeries and contradictions - I knew about Christianity more than you do and based on evidence and reason, any sound-minded, logical and reasonable person will reject Christianity.
@yellowlynx Creation is Evidence of God's Existence, though cf. jn.20. thank you friend for your advise/additions/corrections on The Scripture at some point, n thank God, but no inconsistencies be in His Word or Church Lord Willing truly, i pray you return/come unto His Way Truth And Life reverently and share that Truth with others PLGB Lord Forgive Lord WIlling be i wrong or offbase Amen
@lockinglugnut All of the diversity of life and how life arose have natural explanation that does not need God at all. No inconsistencies ? Why did Luke and Matthew said Joseph had a different father ? Why did Luke and Matthew year of so called Jesus birth have a discrepancy of 10 years ? Why do the three synoptic Gospels said Jesus died AFTER the Passover dinner but John said the otherwise ? You mean Jesus birth twice, died twice and had 2 grandfather ? XDDDDDDDDDDD
@yellowlynx not completely/really. and the origin of those always existing laws which, if slightly off, would not allow the universe to be is not explainable sensibly perhaps any other way but GOD, though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
Christ Had One FATHER, no grandparents from that line Lord Willin. thanks this yahoo answers responder n thank God for clarification here:
@lockinglugnut In the latest physics, the universe can have different sets of physical properties we called "laws". The physical laws are only the way physicists used to / and restrict themselves in describing the universe, not that the universe has any consciousness to "obey" (or disobey) laws of physics. A universe can arise with very different physical properties.
@yellowlynx it would seem it doesn't 'have to' but wouldn't 'work quite the same/right if it didn't'. but God Is In Control, His Spirit Lord Willing in even these, and it *has* apparently for thousands of years continued to....praise The LORD n Forgive be i wrong or offbase
@yellowlynx only one Father. Christ doesn't deny joseph, his 'adoptive dad' to my knowledge ever. lk.2 accounts that the tweenage Christ returned obediently with His earthly parentage after the Passover/Templse dealie that year, praise God.
i offered explanation to you about joseph earlier. may be his dad-in-law, or may be his biological dad passed, or may be Lord Knows what.
@lockinglugnut Explanation will not have the unsure and speculative word "maybe" - all your are offering are you guesses, not explanation. The geneology got even the descendents of David wrong. The words used was "beget" which means give birth/fathered etc. - and that exclude the case of "adoptive" - Luke and Matthew each fabricated Jesus' geneology to serve their own agenda, simple as that.
@yellowlynx i don't see 'beget' in luke's gen. wrt joseph and heli. the descendants of david are not intrinsically wrong either, spelling or consonant 'handoff' either (ie the meaning of asa is preserved in asaph perhaps, not sure on amon/amos though!!)
luke and matthew *wrote* Inspired for GOD's Agenda, the only important thing, Lord Willing, and not 'their own'. their semiindependent styles and approaches may give something from each or combined By GOD, but does not make it
@lockinglugnut Do you mean in all of Luke's geneology, all of the men were adopted sons or sons-in-law because the word beget was never used XDDDDDDDDDD
@yellowlynx no. it just imply that not *all* had to be 'the dad', biologically or otherwise perhaps. it doesn't say they have to *not* be. Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
@yellowlynx no. adam's not 'begotten' in that way by God nor man nor carried by a woman either,but made.the first perhaps'in God's Image',or at least 'strictlyfully human' and upon the earth (meaning not Christ in the flesh or the angels or somesuch).
Christ is not conventionally begotten, He Preexists much (jn., various) apparently, as The WORD and Spirit made flesh. but He's Literally The LORD's Spirit Born among us, albeit carried by woman, fully Divine and fully human Lord Willin' PLGB.
@lockinglugnut If there is a single "God agenda", explain also the inconsistent time of birth between Matthew and Luke. In Matthew, Jesus was born during the reign of Herod the Great, Herod the Great died in 4 BCE, so Jesus could not have been born LATER than 4 BCE. In Luke, Quirinius was governor of Syria when Jesus was born. Quirinius became governor at 6 CE, so Jesus could not have born EARLIER than 6 CE. Quirinius did not have the same post twice, and only at 6 CE. Explain.
@yellowlynx prgreetham thanks google n thank God wrote some on this, thank GOD. quirinius became *legate* in 6ad abouts. that does *not* mean he had no governing role nor census taking prior to that. he was in gov't apparently as a consul and then some variety of rep in 'asia' (modern turkey and such iirc) as early as 12bc praise GOD
@yellowlynx They both describe the event as taking place on the Day of Preparation, before the Passover. ....The Day of Preparation is described as "the first" in Talmudic sources, and referred to the day of preparation, prior to the Passover. All four gospels describe the use of leavened bread (illegal during Passover), none mention the passover lamb during the last supper. Jesus was killed on the day that the passover lambs were slaughtered, just before the actual passover meal.
@lockinglugnut The three synoptic Gospels specified that the crucifixion was AFTER the Passover meal when they ate the fully prepared Passover meal, John stated it was BEFORE the Passover meal, and there is not doubt about it.
@yellowlynx notice in the synoptics there was no lamb at that seder but rather The Lamb, Christ. the unleavened bread/Passover is at least these days celebrated for eight days, culminating in....The Passover. all four state He was killed on a Preparation day, which is prior to any normal sabbath or a 'solemnity'/'feast' such as Passover. they needn't disagree, and Lord Willing they don't. Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB.
@lockinglugnut Wrong, Passover meal implied that there was a Lamb. No mention does not mean "no lamb". Moreover, the timing of Jesus' death was still inconsistent, one was before noon in the early morning, one was after.
@yellowlynx as abraham told isaac 'God Will Provide the sheep/lamb', so it is Fulfilled in Christ being Present Lamb Of GOD! Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase.
i'm pretty sure at least in the naB translation (the one i'm most familiar with thus far) it's in the afternoon consistently. though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase. i can check particular line/footnote citations there at the very least if you've any in particular to share
@lockinglugnut Abraham was just lying to Isaac. If he truly thought a lamb/sheep would be provided why would he tie his son up and lift the knife at him ?
@yellowlynx that cannot be said for certain, but abraham is noted as a man of great faith in GOD. if isaac truly thought he was in danger, to be killed/dead, did not have faith in God, etc., would there not be a note of a struggle in the story potentially? praise GOD PLGB
@yellowlynx didn't sarah tell him to try with hagar? thanks wiki n thank God it's noted after sarah's passing (Repose and Comfort Lord Willin') that he took on/up keturah.
abraham i mayn't judge, but God Alone/His Word/Presence Be Perfect. Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
@lockinglugnut Mark 15:25 If was nine in the morning when they crucified him.
John 19:13 It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon. (then in subsequent verses Jesus was crucified). Explain this inconsistency.
@yellowlynx john says "about noon", mark says "third hour" which apparently meant anytime between nine am and noon. praise GOD PLGB no inconsistency there!
@lockinglugnut Mark said it was precisely 9 in the morning that Jesus was crucified (nailed on the cross), John said at about noon. You cannot explain this away.
@yellowlynx and if Christ was 'down and out' for the sabbath of that week, being a sabbath and a solemnity, and not yet killed at Last Supper, it's almost like a future thing occurred in the 'present' of the disciples that evening, though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
@yellowlynx though Lord Forgive be i or any wrong or offbase. His Last Supper Lord Willing was a Passover Seder, but God Supplied The Lamb (cf. gen.22), and He Was Resurrected.
@yellowlynx i dont think mt.1+2 specify a birth year for Christ, luke gives a bit of a time period though. mt. gives about the child's time fleeing to egypt and such. Lord Forgive be i or any wrong or offbase.
also preparation day for Passover vs Passover week sabbath perhaps 'at issue' above, though again Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase
some take the joseph's dad issue as a dad/dad-in-law one, thanks erik b, LifeOfChrist etc n thank God, Lord Forgive be i or any wrong or off
@lockinglugnut Matthew mentioned Herod the Great, and therefore the year of Jesus' birth can be deduced from how long Herod the Great reigned, similar for Luke. You are just so ignorant about the Bible and I probably think you are Bible-retarded.
@yellowlynx for what It Says or for The Spirit Of GOD/Law to be Present/True, at least in the fundamental way of trusting He Above we/me and naught outside of that
@lockinglugnut The word used was Nakah, which according to what Moses referred in the account, was that God would "smite" the firstborn and they would die -- that is killing - plain and simple. "Perhaps taking them somewhere ?" So can you prove that Hitler is NOT God and he killed them not took 6 million Jews to somewhere "perhaps" ? XDDDDD
@lockinglugnut Yes, Hitler's deed were supported by evidence - but not your God - so the Exodos didn't occur. Secondly, no matter how many translation you try to quote, in the context, God killed firstborn of Egyptians, and there's no doubt, even Moses said God killed/slew them (NIV, KJV, NLT, NASB, The Message etc. all referred to that action as "killed", and in Hebrew, is the word Harag) - unless you want to say the Moses accused God of killing XDDDDDD
@yellowlynx sure it did Lord Willin', a written account a(Scripture no less)and many a people and perhaps even Islam would vouch for God's Truth and moses' Calling, Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
@yellowlynx friend, say not such things. perhaps see the 180movie as well, but know even hitler i mayn't judge. i pray lk.23 Lord Willin for you and myself n all 'Forgive us/them Father...they/who 'know not what they do'' and i pray that we do come to know, revere The LORD and share His Way Truth And Life PLGB
@lockinglugnut In latest archaeological finds, there were no evidence of so called enslavement of Hebrews by Egyptians - sure, slaves were traded in many places then and among them were Hebrews, but no traces of Egypt enslaving an entire nation of people.All those who worked and built the monuments of ancient Egypt were local Egyptian builders and they were well paid. The Hebrews never left Canaan and simply took over small townships that were vacated.
@yellowlynx Lord Knows how many hebrews there were back then! if egypt 'owned' sinai peninsula back then, wasn't too difficult to cross over nor have both living in that area.
'history' also told folks generally the pyramids were primarily carved, which had not much evidence either. but THE BIBLE said Hebrews were 'employed' albeit forcibly as 'brickmakers', geopolymer theory of pyramid construction.
try Bibleandscience website article on some of the other 'time period arch'
@lockinglugnut Bibleandscience website article is worthless in historical scholarship terms - the population claimed in the Bible (over a million men) was wildly exaggerated and was not consistent with what archaeology found about ancient population - ancient Egypt had only 1 - 2 million people in total - that estimate was based on the actual size of the ancient Egyptian cities (how many people they could hold), not your mythical Bible.
@yellowlynx umm, it looks like you just agreed with Bibleandscience. they say 'over a million men' and your guess is apparently up to two million people. those numbers don't have to be inconsistent. nor is physical evidence without background, story, and corroboration always so telling or useful by itself. but faith in The LORD God Willing is, PLGB
Bibleskeptic (such a site should Lord Willing not exist i pray) puts the total egypt pop.at exodus at 3-5million.... o.Ot?
@yellowlynx i also referenced numbers on the population of egypt at the time, unfortunate at least one of those sources though. if you meant the population claimed in The Bible, you didn't cite which you meant above, so apologies for the confusion. please return w appropriate Biblical citations on that, etc. if you would, much appreciated Lord Willing, PLGB
@lockinglugnut I will not use Biblical citations because I knew the Pentateuch were just myths made up by Israelite priests and writers over a span of about 600 years (Check "Documentary Hypothesis")
@yellowlynx o.Ot....no sure the pentateuch spans a *long* bit of history, from 'The Beginning' through moses up to joshua/caleb early on. the history itself occurred welllllllllll over 600 years. Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase.
i may check out this 'idea', prayerfully and with The LORD's Help and Witness i hope/pray, i suggest you and me and all trust The True Source, The LORD Himself, which is Most Important, more than anything else, PLGB thanks n thank God
@lockinglugnut No. The Pentateuch was not written by Moses, but was added to, edited, copied from other Mesopotamian myths to form the version we saw today. The true authors were 5 groups of people from different period, all with their own religious and political agenda - the true source were human, not God.
@yellowlynx the source of The Law is God, praise GOD through moses, and that it was passed down, translated, preserved, etc. for folks over time. moses may or mayn't have wrote it all down himself, Decalogue GOD Inscribed With His Own Finger, apparently, praise GOD. but tis The LORD's. not 'myth', not 'man's agenda', etc. Lord Willin, and Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
@lockinglugnut You are wrong and offbase because actually the Bible was a human created document. Deuteronomy was forged by order of King Josiah, so that he could justify his policy of breaking all idols in the land of Judea. They claimed that it was a lost book of Law, but NO other sources testify that this book ever existed. Check this out: watch?v=m6MkPaNjfLk
@yellowlynx the dead sea scrolls weren't found til the 40s or 50s....20th century....does that mean they did not exist before? (thanks wiki etc. n thank GOD)
deuteronomy doesn't seem to go against the other pentateuch writings. yes josiah used it for his policy, i believe he's not noted as the original discoverer but one of the ministers of his time.
hezekiah and i think asa also had 'Law abiding' policies, the former smashed the bronze serpent. The Law preceded them Lord Willin and
Lord Willin' y'all go it w/GOD, GodIS REAL,not a'delusion',not a'virus', not a'program' Lord Willin' but for real,Lord Forgive be i or any wrong or offbase&prayers for all in need, for mr d,h,h,s etc.&Most Importantly God'sWillBeDone PLGB
cf. GodsJigsawPuzzle blogspot, Bible.cc, usccb naB, alpha course, everystudentsite, Way Of The Master/180movie (though even hitler i mayn't judge) &revere The LORD and serve God and neighbor, PLGB y'all go it w/ God choose God choose life (jn.3:16,deut.30...)
lockinglugnut 2 days ago
@lockinglugnut You repeat the phrase "Lord Willin'" like it is a spell or mantra.... you sounded so much like a wizard LOL
yellowlynx 2 days ago
@yellowlynx nope, sorcery/divination/idolatry are 'against' the OT Law apparently. Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase. and LORD Willin' is likely the only way anything may be, though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
lockinglugnut 2 days ago
seek The LORD, who is not 'evil' nor a 'virus' but the Way Truth And Life By GOD, praise God praise The LORD alpha course everystudent website Bible.cc usccb naB n Lord Forgive Lord Willin' be i wrong or offbase
lockinglugnut 5 days ago
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@lockinglugnut seek The GOBLIN, who is not 'PENUS' nor 'the Milkey River of Life' but the Way Divine Blessings of Sacred ORGASM By the LORD and SAVIOR in the Male DELTA, praise BatMan, praise The Bopokn of Hysterekronomy alpha course everyGardenGOBLIN website Bible.cc usb naB/JWD n SAHTAN Forgive, if Lord Willy be wrong or offbase
kleenex3000 5 days ago
@lockinglugnut Which "LORD?" Christianity alone has about 38,000 sects.
hoodmilk 4 days ago
@hoodmilk denominations* though Lord Willing Christ Says to be united as He With GOD which is fully (jn.17) so Lord Have Mercy bout that
same LORD Though, GOD Father, Christ Son, And Holy Spirit Be His Presence Known, PLGB praise God Amen
lockinglugnut 4 days ago
@lockinglugnut
Do you have a clue, why the Holy man in Black, I mean the one with the dreadloXX glued to his Hat, constantly bangs his head at the Holy-Wall-Of-Complaints?
kleenex3000 4 days ago
@hoodmilk He refers to "LORD WILLY" iow his own resurrecting flesh. You must know, he is very clever in disguising, that he is a Divine Emissary of Penus(the)Christus! Hope that helps.
kleenex3000 4 days ago
@lockinglugnut Let me challenge you with this - Jesus did not make any sacrifice for us. A true sacrifice is that one gives up something he/she could not get back. Jesus died and fully aware that he was going to live again - what he did is NOT sacrifice but just a display to impress himself.
yellowlynx 4 days ago
@yellowlynx except that it's said in Scripture that things we sacrifice in this life Lord Willing we may receive back hundredfold and also gain eternal life.
still took faith on Christ's part to believe, from His human standpoint, in that connectivity with God and accept God's Will. moreover, tis not like His Suffering and actual Lord Have Mercy being
lockinglugnut 4 days ago
@lockinglugnut Jesus/God probably suffered from some schizophrenia, having himself killed only to pay for the "wages of sin" back to himself and pleases himself, no wonder he cannot do a real sacrifice....
yellowlynx 2 days ago
@yellowlynx ....no.... a) Sacrifice/Passover/Fulfillment Lord Willing Is Real b) GOD is not 'diseased' or 'disordered' but prayers for His Healing Lord Willing on those or any of us who suffer, and moreso His Kingdom Come and Will Be Done PLGB
lockinglugnut 2 days ago
@yellowlynx killed are apparently 'taken away' by His Resurrection, He Still Endured such. just as it's not justification to kill someone to send them on an 'early trip' to God's Judgment/Heaven or by 'human condemnation/thought', which counts Lord Willing for nothing, 'hell' (choose God choose life and may all find He and Heaven and Life). notice also in His Glorified Presence/Body (lk.24) He Still Has the stigmata, PLGB praise GOD Amen n Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase.
lockinglugnut 4 days ago
@lockinglugnut Jesus just had an awful weekend, and got INFINITE / ETERNAL Glory in Heaven with all the goodness, how about those suffered unspeakably in sickness, war, famine and natural disasters ? All of them suffered much more than Jesus. Jesus got his life back and that is by not means anyway a sacrifice. Only if Jesus remains in Hell, burn in Hell, and suffer in Hell for eternity will be counted as a genuine sacrifice - the resurrection means he got back what he gave up.
yellowlynx 2 days ago
@yellowlynx an 'awful weekend'? CHRIST was beaten and likely starved. abandoned by many who 'hailed him in'. tortured. insulted. forced to carry His own instrument of torture. nailed to it. hung apparently ~3 hours that way. still insulted. attempted to be fed vinegar/gall. watching soldiers gamble over his stuff. taunted. killed in agony.
'hell' cannot contain GOD/sinless Christ. though it is said based on mt.28 He Went to 'sheol' and hence the once dead Rose By God
lockinglugnut 2 days ago
@yellowlynx /Christ. praise The LORD. and see my comments on the Above about 'God With us' His Own Presence, Father, Son, And Spirit. He's 'been there' with us/Above and Lord Willing among us for a time, a combination of time longer than any lifespan of a human likely, even before the fall was He there praise GOD. to Restore all things in His Way Truth and Life may we trust HE Above we.
lockinglugnut 2 days ago
@yellowlynx The Bible defines Sacrifice, Passover, etc. tis not up to us!
and He's Lord Willing seen/been present somehow through it *all*, Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase
lockinglugnut 2 days ago
@yellowlynx He Fulfills Lord Willing as Temple, Priest perhaps (hb.4), Lamb/Sacrifice (rev., jn.1, jn.18/19, mt.2/27, lk.22/23, mk.14/15), and Surviving Son (cf. ex., mt.28, mk.16, lk.24, jn.20/21, thanks ross n thank God) of Passover, praise God n Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase. Fulfillment of Law, Sacrifice and Legacy of God's Salvation/Life Eternal, and Fulfillment of Prophecy, fast and feast, PLGB
lockinglugnut 4 days ago
@lockinglugnut watch?v=1x2Se5JeILE
yellowlynx 4 days ago
宗教是人類這個物種的生存手段之一
當然不是萬無一失
不過大部分的人需要宗教是千真萬確的
我覺得我們這些發現沒有神的人們所要做的努力是
防止宗教扼殺我們對理性的渴求
對理性無渴求的人們
信教也沒甚麼不好的(大部分人其實並不在乎)
feng1584 2 months ago
@feng1584 錯了，宗教只是人類文明發展的產物，在對大自然無知懼怕中硬塞一個解釋、然後被統治者利用來壓制平民，說他們的統治者是天上的神既代表 (埃及法老是被認為是天上的神 Ra 降生地上、中國皇帝是天子、西方羅馬帝國皈依基督教後羅馬皇帝是君權神授等)，大部份人只是從小被人教導相信有神、去相信自己需要神、而以為自己沒有神不行，實際上只要父母、學校沒有法子自小灌輸宗教信仰，大部份人所謂的宗教需要是不存在的。
yellowlynx 2 months ago 5
@feng1584 go to Bible.cc everystudent website.science cannot overturn God Who Made all, PLGB find HIs Way Truth And Life (jn.14) n Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase
lockinglugnut 1 month ago
@lockinglugnut Science does not have to overturn God because God was NEVER PROVEN!
yellowlynx 1 week ago
@yellowlynx science cannot overturn God because He Made it! read The Bible!! praise God, Bible.cc usccb naB 'Blessed/Happy are those who've 'not seen' and still believed' but oh tis difficult i think not to perceive His Work and Presence pretty much everywhere He Wills. Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase, PLGB maybe also try everystudent website or alpha course
lockinglugnut 1 week ago
@lockinglugnut those who've 'not seen' and still believed' - we called them superstitious. God did not make science, and the Bible is written by a bunch of bronze age shepherds, copying myths from Babylon, Egypt and Assyrians. Out of 27 books of the New Testament, over half of them were written by people who lived long after the "supposed death of Jesus", 6 letters claimed to be written by Paul is known to be forged, the two letters by Peter are forged...
yellowlynx 1 week ago
@yellowlynx superstitions actually, i think, are based on 'misguided evidence'. maybe similar to 'old wives' tales'.
how do you know the two letters of peter weren't initially from peter?? may be similar with paul. folks/copyists over the years have probably copied, compiled, etc. the NT especially. matthew's Gospel may've been originally matthew's, but the eldest known copies of such seem likely to be after his passing! though i think we've pretty 'close to date' paul idea
lockinglugnut 1 week ago
@lockinglugnut Superstitions are belief not based on evidence (misguided evidence are not evidence). The manuscripts of New Testaments were in Greek, not just basic Greek but Greek of a person who had formal training in rhetoric and composition, but according to Christian tradition, Peter was an uneducated, illiterate fisherman from Galilee, who could only speak Aramaic, he could not have written it.
yellowlynx 1 week ago
@yellowlynx science in the past *has* been based on misguided evidence. take spontaneous generation as an example of such a theory. or earlier atomic theory.
peter was as educated as he needed to be, he had God and Christ and Spirit.
*actually* much of the NT is in koine greek, which is quite different from say homer's/epic greek. and who says he didn't learn at some point?? or that he didn't meet somebody who could write it out for him. we don't know
lockinglugnut 1 week ago
@lockinglugnut Like you said, the thing about based on misguided evidence is a thing of the past. Having said that, Christians still have not provide direct evidence of God / Jesus existence. Even though much of the New Testament is Koine Greek, it still needed formal instruction in Greek composition and rhetoric, which clearly the twelve disciples had none of that. By New Testament's own account, Peter was described as "unlettered", which also means he was illiterate (see Acts)
yellowlynx 1 week ago
@yellowlynx GOD Has Provided. And Proven. Creation's all around you. the OT is essentially mostly if not all about that. and He Did not need to but did. praise GOD
'clearly the disciples had none of' can you 'prove' that? or that no *scribes* or *authorities* were among their ranks. luke was a physician, matthew a tax collector apparently.
maybe peter was 'unlettered' at the time of acts. or maybe someone 'helped a brother out', doesn't mean it's not from him/his! praise GOD
lockinglugnut 1 week ago
@lockinglugnut Only small and ignorant mind like you thought that "Creation" is all around - physics, chemistry and biology all provided a much plausible answer that "Creator". If there is a Creator, who created the Creator ? Moreover this Creator is stupid and is a great failure, 99.9999% of all livings on Earth were extinct, quite a bad performance, and those we still see around, are littered with design flaws that no human engineer will commit.
yellowlynx 1 week ago
@yellowlynx physics, chem, and bio *prove* the creator, from the big bang in gen.1 it seems, though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase.
God's Plan Is Greater than ours, we know not much about the 'pre-historic life' and what may've become of such!
tacitus referred to 'Christus' i thought, not just Christians, though again Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase
how much human engineering would 'survive' the thousands of years if not more Lord Willing that His Work does? as long as His
lockinglugnut 1 week ago
@lockinglugnut Tacitus referred to Christus what was the name the Christians called the god they worship - in any evidence, this only constituted a "hearsay", not a direct evidence.
yellowlynx 1 week ago
@yellowlynx Christ yes....God*'s Presence In Him Lord Willing, PLGB
watch the ewtn series 'The Heavens Proclaim' Lord Willing the laws and analogies of the universe seem very much Created and very much By GOD, not 'random' though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase, He Doth not fail!
lockinglugnut 1 week ago
@lockinglugnut No scientists said the universe arose by randomness, for an orderly universe to arise, it does not need God either, as physicists have concluded.
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut physics, chem, and biology showed that the universe and living beings were formed by purely natural processes that DO NOT require a creator. The "Big Bang" was not the beginning as physicist knew it, and neither was the universe designed. The so called "living things created by God" had 99.9999% extinct, this God failed miserably!
yellowlynx 1 week ago
@yellowlynx Word Himself has even proved true! praise God! none likely without God's Will/ Support though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbse
the disciples apparently didn't all just 'plop' in palestine forever. it's said peter was even arrested/brought to rome. not 'educational circumstances' but still.
the third to last line of first peter he thanks his 'brother silvanus' for assistance in transmitting the letter. that doesn't mean it's not his, so maybe he had assistance
lockinglugnut 1 week ago
perhaps didn't all just 'plop'* my bad n Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase
lockinglugnut 1 week ago
@lockinglugnut You are just using circular arguments without a shred of evidence of God's existence or that Jesus existed. You claim that Peter had assistance from a brother, but that required the person to be both fluent in Aramaic and Greek, which was so much more improbable than the case of two letters be written by a Greek without involving Peter, and calling himself Peter (i.e. the letters were forged).
yellowlynx 1 week ago
@yellowlynx The Bible....and some historical account. a 'brother' in the apostolate sense, not necessarily his brother relative like andrew. *the letter itself says so!*
how many languages, i wonder, did paul or a scribe or pharisee in the 'dispersion' know? though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase
the proof of GOD is all around you, and Christ Spoke Truth n The Bible n Quran Lord Willing on Him. cf. strobel's case for Christ series perhaps as well. there's the evidence
lockinglugnut 1 week ago
Lord Willing do not 'close your eyes' to the forest and say there are no trees, metaphorically speaking. be open,see, By GOD, jn.9! PLGB n Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase
lockinglugnut 1 week ago
@lockinglugnut
You will stand before the powerful throne of GardenGoblins. Repent, or face the awakening on the last day, when they will hold your spiritual body accountable, for all the pseudoapologetic nonsense, that you deceived mankind with, and infected their innocent brains, during lifetime!
kleenex3000 1 week ago
@kleenex3000 GOD*, and Lord Willing/need be i repent friend.
Bible.cc usccb naB faith is not an infection, tis a Gift for all, please Lord Willing take it, for life, Salvation, n The LORD most of all be very important
lockinglugnut 1 week ago
@lockinglugnut
On your KNEEZ and: Repent! And worship the true Creator G-D, Penus(the)Christus, the Lord of Lords, the Father of Fathers. Consider WHERE you came from, namely from the CaveO'Creation of you Mother - and HOW did you get into??? Certainly not by the STORK. Rather by the Milkey River Of Life from your Father!
kleenex3000 1 week ago
@lockinglugnut I looked and there is no forest. If you say you have seen God, show the evidence. To be open does not mean you have to believe in things that the Bible said -- the Bible is a human written document, full of mistakes, inconsistencies, contradictions and forgeries.
yellowlynx 1 week ago
@lockinglugnut I saw more disproof of God than any positive evidence of God existence - Strobel was wrong in many of his concepts of physics and his ideas are debunked by physicists, skeptics and free thinkers. In Roman times, literacy level was below 10%, and the so called literate people could only write a short sentence - a typical village scribe who was considered literate was one who could sign documents with his signature with a short standard phrase, and that's it
yellowlynx 1 week ago
@yellowlynx This lockinglug Nutter is irrational and he comprehends but irrational argumetation, an example being provided in my previous comment. Please, do the same; he is very receptive to GardenGoblins, HangMan, Reptile Annunakou Illuminati!
kleenex3000 1 week ago
@yellowlynx writing, praise The LORD! how formal a greek education was available in tarsus or the province of 'asia'? just curious, as paul seemed to be 'well lettered' from that, and also apparently a 'roman citizen' despite being a Jew/Christian, etc. praise GOD n Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
His Plan greater than ours (is.55) trust He Above we (prov.3) fail Lord Willing He Does not if He Wills not, Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase
lockinglugnut 1 week ago
@lockinglugnut Formal Greek education was available in Tarsus because that was a Greco-Roman region, not in Palestine. Further more Paul came from a more wealthy family (that's why he could get Roman citizenship). For the 12 disciples (not Paul), they were from the grassroots level, a poor region in Palestine where Greek education was not available.
yellowlynx 1 week ago
@lockinglugnut Why not just say you don't know the answer, rather than saying "His plan is greater than ours" ? At least you will be honest in admitting that you don't know!
yellowlynx 1 week ago
@yellowlynx because Lord Willing that is One Truth i do know, that if The LORD Wills it, He Doth not fail, and His Plan Is Greater (is.55) prov.3:5 Lord Forgive for that which i do not 'know' Lord Willing, and if You Will it Lord Work Through me however You Will and if i may know to know. but that He Knows is Most Important. PLGB
lockinglugnut 1 week ago
@lockinglugnut Then try ask the Lord to will that I drop dead right away as a test of so called "Lord Willing" and "His existence".. XD
Rather than asking the Lord to forgive you, why not you have some guts to admit to non-believers that you are ignorant and wrong ? Too afraid to admit it ?
yellowlynx 1 week ago
@yellowlynx 'you shall not put The LORD, your GOD to the test' Christ Quotes such in mt.4, it's from deuteronomy!
and God Values life (ez.33, jonah 3, 1kg.3 perhaps, etc.) Lord Willin'
GOD Is not wrong, i mayn't 'know everything' myself but He Does
'The LORD Is my Light and my Salvation, of whom should i be afraid?' from the psalms....23 maybe, Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
lockinglugnut 1 week ago
@lockinglugnut
'you shall not put The GardenGoblin or your SpiderMan to the test' kybernetic Quotes such in mt.4, it's from Hysterekronomy!
and HangMan values subterrestrian life (ez.33, Hades 3, 1kg.3 perhaps, etc.) Priestesse Saliva and Lord Willy
GOBLIN Is not wrong, i mayn't 'know everything' myself but He Does
'Penus(the)Christus Is my Light and my Salvation, of whom should i be afraid?' from the Starfish Imitation....23 maybe, SahTahn, Forgive be i wrong or offbase P-LGBT UKW LMAO
kleenex3000 1 week ago
@lockinglugnut Answer me, why did Elijah put Yahweh to test by setting up and altar, put a sacrificial lamb on it, splash it with water, and challenged the prophets of Baal ? Wasn't that an act to "put the LORD to test ?" That "LORD" is you God, and as far as I am concerned it doesn't exist. God values life? So why did he kill all lives on Earth with the flood ? See ? You religion and the Bible is full of contradictions!
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@yellowlynx that was not elij-h attempting to test GOD, it was the folks he was around (i.e. the 'false'/'pagan prophets') that were not believing. elij-h believed, he was simply putting an example forward to them. he was not 'testing' God, but trusting He'd Pull Through, as He Did,praise GOD.
God Does Value life. (noah+seven others were Saved during the flood, Lord Willing, so not all life from earth was taken)who says the souls of those passed away did not find Repose unto GOD?
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut Elijah tried to prove to the woshippers of Baal by putting both Baal and Yahweh to a test.You say Yahweh values live and save 8 people and killed the rest of the world - do you mean the rest of the people Yahweh killed were not human or not lives ? XD
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@yellowlynx elijah was not putting anyone to the test. he believed in GOD alone, and was *demonstrating* a truth Lord Willin', in terms that culture and those folks could understand. it never says in The Scripture for a moment that elijah believed in baal, or was attempting to 'test' God. cf.1kg18 (was a bull apparently btw, Lord Have Mercy)
the other eight remained on earth, did you not read the rest of the words i'd noted there?? about Repose Lord Willing potentially or
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut So why did Elijah asked god to show that he is God ? I just ask you to pray to god to have my life taken to show that you god is God, you believe in God and all I am asking you is to demonstrate the truth ? What is the difference ?
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@yellowlynx perhaps they'd reached Heaven or come to believe or come to stop suffering on earth and would one day encounter The LORD if not that day? that they weren't necessarily killed? however, that's not an 'excuse' for humanity to kill, judgment is not ours, tis God's, and value human life He Does, Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB. he mayn't have 'killed' any, but simply swept the remainder of life unto himself or away for a time, life's in The Spirit Lord Willin
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut Don't forget, in the great flood there were a lot of children babies and unborn fetus, do you seriously think they deserve to be killed? You Christians claim that God is all knowing and loving, then why can't he just pick out those who are truly guilty and just kill those, instead of "swept the remainder of life unto himself" ? Only and idiot like you worship a god as idiotic as you.
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@yellowlynx i cannot judge or say who deserves what, and again you're using the word 'killed', which is not used to my knowledge in the Scripture, so much as end or sweep away or occasionally strike.
the Text also states 'unrighteous otherwise', and if children/unborn are so innocent, then none would likely be involved. though again even those swept away i cannot judge. perhaps The LORD brought them unto Himself as they weren't handling earthly life too well apparently PLGB
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut Hahaha...sending a great flood... I know the word scripture used -- "destroy" - so destroying people is not killing ? XDDDDDDDD
Did the scripture say only Noah and his family were alive ? The others were not "killed " ? Come on, that's the kind of shit the Alpha course teach you ? Wow... that's really NOT a course for children!
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@yellowlynx look up the strong's, it can mean wipe out, wipe away, strike, etc. as well! though yes it does have destructive/extermination meanings potentially as well, Lord Have Mercy. 'The Spirit Returns To God Who Gave It' says ecc.12 though, so 'utterly destroyed' perhaps not so.
never took alpha, wouldn't know, read The WORD, believed, dealt with apologetics and testimony online, etc. Insightful Lord Willin, trust always He Above we, PLGB
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut Yeah yeah yeah... wipe out/wipe away/strike are not the same as "killing"... Adolf Hitler could say he just wiped out/wiped away 6 million Jews... XDDDDDDD
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@yellowlynx hitler is not GOD and even hitler i mayn't judge. his word was not Scripture, and Create The Universe He Did not. God Knows Best, PLGB n prayers for victims of the holocaust and otherwise, and perpetrators as well, even hitler himself Lord Willing, and prayers God's Will Be Done!
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut Yes I know... all moral standards that applied to human being God is exempted... so God can rape a woman, you can just say God did not rape but just "penetrated"... XDDDD Using word tricks like wipe away etc. to cover God's ass is futile.. God kills.. in Exodus, he killed babies!
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@yellowlynx even if He's Exempt from 'The Law', He Is Still GOOD. simply because He's Capable of potentially doing things of that sort does not mean He Does, because He Is All Good, and His Law and Covenant are meant to help us see that and strive to live as He'd Have us. He Doesn't 'rape' or 'kill' and just 'make up' words for it. again, read The Word with belief, witness, and openness friend, not in this 'worldly' or 'evil-seeking' or 'blind' or 'closedeyed' sort of way
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut God is exempted from the Law, and God Does what He Does, He can simply kill and rape and declare that to be "good" - and God did kill people and God allowed His people to get away with rape in Leviticus - the Law that allow rapist to settle the crime by paying money - so if Jesus fulfilled the Law, then you could rape and settle it by paying money, sell your daughter as a slave for a good price etc.
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut You simply making empty assertions by repeating declaring that God is good, ignoring evidences in the Bible that showed him to be the contrary - He ordered massive killings, he ordered his people to kill whoever led them to worship other gods, he ordered genocides and instruct his people to show no mercy.
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@yellowlynx God Says in exodus apparently that He 'Strikes' egypt and that the firstborn of the egyptians who were not obeying would die. at least in the egyptian/worldly view they may've seemed as dead. 'kill' is not the word used here again perhaps, though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase. perhaps Lord Willing He Brought them unto Himself. i hope/pray those children found The LORD, perhaps as possible in noah's time, those who struggled among unrighteousness and be unto Him
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut Hahahaha... you are making up things that were not mentioned in scriptures -- in Exodus, God killed all firstborn of Egyptians, no mention about "who were not obeying", in other words, all firstborn of Egyptians including small babies were killed by God! "kill" is not the word used, but the action is still killing, taking their lives, not "brought them to Himself" - and if some of them were sinners deserve to go to Hell, do you mean that God is Devil (at Hell)?
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@yellowlynx uhh....nine prior times the egyptians are noted as disobeying God. they may be otherwise noted in that portion of Scripture as practicing idolatry and or attempts at 'magic', unLawful/unTrue apparently things, Lord Have Mercy
God is not 'the devil' nor 'fallen' like that, Lord Have Mercy prayers that even satan himself would repent if need be and even he i mayn't judge perhaps
if He 'Takes their lives', in a literal sense that implies perhaps Taking them somewhere
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut The Ten Commandments were not issued then, and prior to that, NONE of Old Testament's account claimed that God would punish people for worshiping other gods - so your claim that they practiced idolary/magic was the reason God killed them was unfounded. The 9 times was the Pharaoh who disobeyed, not the Egyptian in general - learn your Bible first!
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@yellowlynx good point on the Decalogue friend. pharaoh and perhaps his 'court' disobeyed, and recall his whole army remaining after the Passover chases after the egyptians. and the 'magicians', etc. so perhaps Lord Willing indeed it was not 'just pharaoh', though even he i mayn't judge
even before The Law, from Genesis 1 onward the point is that God's Love is freely Given and hopefully to be freely chosen. going against trust in He Above we/me or idols or false deities etc.
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut Oh.. perhaps and perhaps and perhaps.. so the Bible is SO UNCLEAR about things that you SO UNSURE THAT you have to "perhaps" all the way long ? XDDDDD
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut oh perhaps Hitler is a god.. he just took 6 million Jews unto himself.... oh technically he only put them in gas chambers, the word used was not "kill"...hahahahaha
(Prove to me that Hitler is not God, and that Jesus is not the grandson of Flying Spaghetti Monster ... XDDD)
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@yellowlynx The LORD Said 'I AM The LORD your GOD, there is none besides me', thanks pentateuch and thank GOD, that's sufficient and only the beginning. there's also Christ's 'Good tree, Good fruit' logic, praise GOD
Christ Is The SON And Word And Spirit of God Made flesh, you've to read and believe and prayerfully discern the Scripture, and you too friend may understand, though LORD Forgive be i wrong or offbase, even hitler i mayn't judge, PLGB.
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut Christ said, love you enemies, but God revenged Egyptians by having all Egyptian firstborn (from Pharaoh to common citizen) killed because their Pharaoh ordered his troops to kill Hebrew boys - tell me why did God revenge indiscriminately ?
yellowlynx 5 days ago
@yellowlynx again, Lord Willing, may their lives be unto Him. Christ IS Lord Willin fully God's Presence in a fully human form.
God Doesn't 'indiscriminately avenge' so to speak. and the people were warned by moses unto pharaoh that something terrible was coming (cf. 'storm warning'pt). moreover, pharaoh was not likely alone in this order, why would moses be hidden as a child if only pharaoh were executing this order but none other?? though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
lockinglugnut 5 days ago
@yellowlynx and apparently also hitler's 'Christianity' cut stuff out of Scripture, which would make such Lord Willing in defiance of GOD, though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut Hitler was a professed Catholics, the church of Germany supported the Nazy, so how can you say that his Christianity is not Orthodox ?
yellowlynx 5 days ago
@yellowlynx hitler was *raised* by Catholic parents. he himself was *not* Catholic. he spoke of Christianity 'purged of Judaism'. yet Christ Lived A Perfectly Obedient Jewish Life and came 'not to destroy the Jewish Law/prophets, but Fulfill' according to The Gospel.
the church in that sense, is an earthly institution postulating in God's Name. that does not vouch for every church nor every member of a given church acting for or against Scripture or God, prayers they all be
lockinglugnut 5 days ago
@lockinglugnut Hitler was baptized, and the Nazis army wore the crucifix. The purge of Jews was supported by words of Martin Luther, as well as Jesus, who called the fathers of the Jews devil.
yellowlynx 4 days ago
@yellowlynx anyone can wear a crucifix. anyone can unfortunately claim to do something 'in The Name Of GOD'. that doesn't make their action or interpretation necessarily Christian. again, hitler apparently 'cut out' parts of Scripture that were ok with Judaism, etc. Christ Himself Lived on earth an obedient Jewish life. Fulfilling Jewish Law and prophecy. praise GOD.
Jesus did not call Jews 'the devil', He may've taken issue with traditions or actions of theirs, but
lockinglugnut 4 days ago
@yellowlynx i don't recall in Scripture Christ claiming all Jews or Jews in general or even a specific Jew was 'the devil'. some referred to His Work this way, and He Said some things like dishonesty were from 'the evil one', and He Told peter 'get behind me satan' (accuser, 'advocate of the worldly') but i don't believe that means He Found peter to be the devil, just the attitude of trusting human nature or worldly or fleshly or evil things above God, Lord Forgive be i wrong or
lockinglugnut 4 days ago
@yellowlynx offbase PLGB
lockinglugnut 4 days ago
@yellowlynx for Him though, n Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase, even hitler n churches that 'stood' for some or all of what he did i mayn't judge, but pray that all n they come to accept The Way Truth And Life of GOD PLGB
lockinglugnut 5 days ago
@lockinglugnut the Way Truth And Life of GOD came two thousand years ago, and all it brought about were bloodshed, slave trading, bigotry, discrimination to women, invasion to South Americans and destroy their civilization - if that is the way, the truth and life, then you can have it -- we don't want it!
yellowlynx 4 days ago
@yellowlynx Jesus *never* told anyone to go kill off natives, to my knowledge. idolatry had a high price in the OT Law, true, and spiritually Lord Have Mercy it may still, but Jesus By GOD Said we're not to condemn/judge our neighbors, in jn.8 even 'thwarted' a 'lawful' 'death penalty' invocation, and said in the vineyard Parable it seems that folks who find Him and go it w/ God first or last hour or anytime in between receive the same Reward, PLGB praise GOD Amenn
lockinglugnut 4 days ago
@lockinglugnut Yahweh did tell people to kill of natives like those in Canaan. Those Spanish colonial invaders all prayed to God and Jesus, how could you prove that "Jesus never told them to do so" ? If Yahweh can command Joshua, Moses etc. to commit acts of genocide, surely by the same faith you accepted OT, killing of South American natives would also be justified.
yellowlynx 2 days ago
@yellowlynx because we assess what GOD/Christ Says by The Scripture, like paul says. God/Christ don't 'defy' His Own Word and Spirit!! not all who say 'Lord Lord', though even they i cannot judge and hope/pray they found His Way Truth And Life and repented if need be.
i've noted on the canaanites ,etc. some earlier as well. perhaps metaphorical. or perhaps we misunderstand 'the ban' or doom. confusion between spiritual and physical things, etc. though Lord Forgive be i wrong or
lockinglugnut 2 days ago
@lockinglugnut offbase. not genocide Lord Willing. there are canaanites even into Christ's time apparently, see how The Presence of GOD in Christ deals with the canaanite woman in Scripture, though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase. and i pray all come reverently unto Him and away from any idolatry or disbelief (that which is sin/'blindness'/'closed-hearted/eyed'/causes/leads to suffering)for all are welcome who would n Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase. He Is Perfect In He
lockinglugnut 2 days ago
@lockinglugnut Lord Willing no sin [can/would/will] Be
lockinglugnut 2 days ago
@yellowlynx is throwing away that trust. and that folks Lord Have Mercy can reject His Love and Truth potentially, though i pray that all may come not to PLGB
again go read The Scripture openly, Lord Willing fully, with witness and trust in GOD, and not in a 'worldly' or 'evil-seeking way', if you're doing so now, Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase, esp. since you've such an interest in quoting it now, but even if you hadn't
apologies on the Decalogue, 'Law' was not required
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut I was a Sunday School Teacher and taught scriptures in church for years and I know what I am talking about - I read it to see the words in its plain meaning and there is no mistake that the scripture is ridden with mistakes and contradictions - its not "worldly" nor "evil seeking" but simply a manner any sensible, rational and one with proper education, not blind irrational faith can see it.
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@yellowlynx 'i'....that's not the issue here 'i'.....it's GOD! read it all, as The LORD would have it, and i hope and pray you make a return unto The LORD
prov.3:5 says to Trust He Above we/me, our 'own understanding/nature' without God may be nothing.
faith is not blind, but still cf. jn.20!
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut there is no evidence of God's existence, and the Bible is full of errors, forgeries and contradictions - I knew about Christianity more than you do and based on evidence and reason, any sound-minded, logical and reasonable person will reject Christianity.
yellowlynx 5 days ago
@yellowlynx Creation is Evidence of God's Existence, though cf. jn.20. thank you friend for your advise/additions/corrections on The Scripture at some point, n thank God, but no inconsistencies be in His Word or Church Lord Willing truly, i pray you return/come unto His Way Truth And Life reverently and share that Truth with others PLGB Lord Forgive Lord WIlling be i wrong or offbase Amen
lockinglugnut 5 days ago
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lockinglugnut 5 days ago
@lockinglugnut All of the diversity of life and how life arose have natural explanation that does not need God at all. No inconsistencies ? Why did Luke and Matthew said Joseph had a different father ? Why did Luke and Matthew year of so called Jesus birth have a discrepancy of 10 years ? Why do the three synoptic Gospels said Jesus died AFTER the Passover dinner but John said the otherwise ? You mean Jesus birth twice, died twice and had 2 grandfather ? XDDDDDDDDDDD
yellowlynx 4 days ago
@yellowlynx not completely/really. and the origin of those always existing laws which, if slightly off, would not allow the universe to be is not explainable sensibly perhaps any other way but GOD, though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
Christ Had One FATHER, no grandparents from that line Lord Willin. thanks this yahoo answers responder n thank God for clarification here:
lockinglugnut 4 days ago
@lockinglugnut In the latest physics, the universe can have different sets of physical properties we called "laws". The physical laws are only the way physicists used to / and restrict themselves in describing the universe, not that the universe has any consciousness to "obey" (or disobey) laws of physics. A universe can arise with very different physical properties.
yellowlynx 2 days ago
@yellowlynx it would seem it doesn't 'have to' but wouldn't 'work quite the same/right if it didn't'. but God Is In Control, His Spirit Lord Willing in even these, and it *has* apparently for thousands of years continued to....praise The LORD n Forgive be i wrong or offbase
lockinglugnut 2 days ago
@lockinglugnut Then Joseph has two fathers ? XDDDD
Do you mean that Jesus denied Joseph to be his earthly Father flat out ? That kind of family value you promote is sickening!
yellowlynx 2 days ago
@yellowlynx only one Father. Christ doesn't deny joseph, his 'adoptive dad' to my knowledge ever. lk.2 accounts that the tweenage Christ returned obediently with His earthly parentage after the Passover/Templse dealie that year, praise God.
i offered explanation to you about joseph earlier. may be his dad-in-law, or may be his biological dad passed, or may be Lord Knows what.
Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
lockinglugnut 2 days ago
@lockinglugnut Explanation will not have the unsure and speculative word "maybe" - all your are offering are you guesses, not explanation. The geneology got even the descendents of David wrong. The words used was "beget" which means give birth/fathered etc. - and that exclude the case of "adoptive" - Luke and Matthew each fabricated Jesus' geneology to serve their own agenda, simple as that.
yellowlynx 1 day ago
@yellowlynx i don't see 'beget' in luke's gen. wrt joseph and heli. the descendants of david are not intrinsically wrong either, spelling or consonant 'handoff' either (ie the meaning of asa is preserved in asaph perhaps, not sure on amon/amos though!!)
luke and matthew *wrote* Inspired for GOD's Agenda, the only important thing, Lord Willing, and not 'their own'. their semiindependent styles and approaches may give something from each or combined By GOD, but does not make it
lockinglugnut 1 day ago
@lockinglugnut Do you mean in all of Luke's geneology, all of the men were adopted sons or sons-in-law because the word beget was never used XDDDDDDDDDD
yellowlynx 10 hours ago
@yellowlynx no. it just imply that not *all* had to be 'the dad', biologically or otherwise perhaps. it doesn't say they have to *not* be. Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
lockinglugnut 6 hours ago
@lockinglugnut So Adam is the son-in-law of GOd ??? XDDDD
yellowlynx 10 hours ago
@yellowlynx no. adam's not 'begotten' in that way by God nor man nor carried by a woman either,but made.the first perhaps'in God's Image',or at least 'strictlyfully human' and upon the earth (meaning not Christ in the flesh or the angels or somesuch).
Christ is not conventionally begotten, He Preexists much (jn., various) apparently, as The WORD and Spirit made flesh. but He's Literally The LORD's Spirit Born among us, albeit carried by woman, fully Divine and fully human Lord Willin' PLGB.
lockinglugnut 6 hours ago
@lockinglugnut If there is a single "God agenda", explain also the inconsistent time of birth between Matthew and Luke. In Matthew, Jesus was born during the reign of Herod the Great, Herod the Great died in 4 BCE, so Jesus could not have been born LATER than 4 BCE. In Luke, Quirinius was governor of Syria when Jesus was born. Quirinius became governor at 6 CE, so Jesus could not have born EARLIER than 6 CE. Quirinius did not have the same post twice, and only at 6 CE. Explain.
yellowlynx 10 hours ago
@yellowlynx prgreetham thanks google n thank God wrote some on this, thank GOD. quirinius became *legate* in 6ad abouts. that does *not* mean he had no governing role nor census taking prior to that. he was in gov't apparently as a consul and then some variety of rep in 'asia' (modern turkey and such iirc) as early as 12bc praise GOD
lockinglugnut 6 hours ago
@yellowlynx necessarily false or inconsistent, etc. for LORD Willing God Is Not should He Elect not to be! PLGB praise God Amen
lockinglugnut 1 day ago
@yellowlynx They both describe the event as taking place on the Day of Preparation, before the Passover. ....The Day of Preparation is described as "the first" in Talmudic sources, and referred to the day of preparation, prior to the Passover. All four gospels describe the use of leavened bread (illegal during Passover), none mention the passover lamb during the last supper. Jesus was killed on the day that the passover lambs were slaughtered, just before the actual passover meal.
lockinglugnut 4 days ago
@lockinglugnut The three synoptic Gospels specified that the crucifixion was AFTER the Passover meal when they ate the fully prepared Passover meal, John stated it was BEFORE the Passover meal, and there is not doubt about it.
yellowlynx 2 days ago
@yellowlynx notice in the synoptics there was no lamb at that seder but rather The Lamb, Christ. the unleavened bread/Passover is at least these days celebrated for eight days, culminating in....The Passover. all four state He was killed on a Preparation day, which is prior to any normal sabbath or a 'solemnity'/'feast' such as Passover. they needn't disagree, and Lord Willing they don't. Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB.
lockinglugnut 2 days ago
@lockinglugnut Wrong, Passover meal implied that there was a Lamb. No mention does not mean "no lamb". Moreover, the timing of Jesus' death was still inconsistent, one was before noon in the early morning, one was after.
yellowlynx 1 day ago
@yellowlynx as abraham told isaac 'God Will Provide the sheep/lamb', so it is Fulfilled in Christ being Present Lamb Of GOD! Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase.
i'm pretty sure at least in the naB translation (the one i'm most familiar with thus far) it's in the afternoon consistently. though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase. i can check particular line/footnote citations there at the very least if you've any in particular to share
lockinglugnut 1 day ago
@lockinglugnut Abraham was just lying to Isaac. If he truly thought a lamb/sheep would be provided why would he tie his son up and lift the knife at him ?
yellowlynx 10 hours ago
@yellowlynx that cannot be said for certain, but abraham is noted as a man of great faith in GOD. if isaac truly thought he was in danger, to be killed/dead, did not have faith in God, etc., would there not be a note of a struggle in the story potentially? praise GOD PLGB
we *all* should have great faith in GOD PLGB
lockinglugnut 6 hours ago
@lockinglugnut In Genesis multiple times he showed lack of faith, e.g. taking another woman to be his wife.
yellowlynx 5 hours ago
@yellowlynx didn't sarah tell him to try with hagar? thanks wiki n thank God it's noted after sarah's passing (Repose and Comfort Lord Willin') that he took on/up keturah.
abraham i mayn't judge, but God Alone/His Word/Presence Be Perfect. Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
lockinglugnut 4 hours ago
@lockinglugnut Mark 15:25 If was nine in the morning when they crucified him.
John 19:13 It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon. (then in subsequent verses Jesus was crucified). Explain this inconsistency.
yellowlynx 10 hours ago
@yellowlynx john says "about noon", mark says "third hour" which apparently meant anytime between nine am and noon. praise GOD PLGB no inconsistency there!
lockinglugnut 6 hours ago
@lockinglugnut Mark said it was precisely 9 in the morning that Jesus was crucified (nailed on the cross), John said at about noon. You cannot explain this away.
yellowlynx 5 hours ago
@yellowlynx did not, said 'third hour' looked up the strong's! thanks naB footnotes and thank God for the statement on that being 9am-12pm.praise GOD
lockinglugnut 4 hours ago
@yellowlynx potentially being*/containing
lockinglugnut 4 hours ago
apparently could mean*
lockinglugnut 6 hours ago
@yellowlynx can perhaps*
lockinglugnut 1 day ago
@yellowlynx and if Christ was 'down and out' for the sabbath of that week, being a sabbath and a solemnity, and not yet killed at Last Supper, it's almost like a future thing occurred in the 'present' of the disciples that evening, though Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
lockinglugnut 2 days ago
@yellowlynx though Lord Forgive be i or any wrong or offbase. His Last Supper Lord Willing was a Passover Seder, but God Supplied The Lamb (cf. gen.22), and He Was Resurrected.
lockinglugnut 4 days ago
@yellowlynx i dont think mt.1+2 specify a birth year for Christ, luke gives a bit of a time period though. mt. gives about the child's time fleeing to egypt and such. Lord Forgive be i or any wrong or offbase.
also preparation day for Passover vs Passover week sabbath perhaps 'at issue' above, though again Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase
some take the joseph's dad issue as a dad/dad-in-law one, thanks erik b, LifeOfChrist etc n thank God, Lord Forgive be i or any wrong or off
lockinglugnut 4 days ago
@lockinglugnut Matthew mentioned Herod the Great, and therefore the year of Jesus' birth can be deduced from how long Herod the Great reigned, similar for Luke. You are just so ignorant about the Bible and I probably think you are Bible-retarded.
yellowlynx 2 days ago
@yellowlynx base PLGB
lockinglugnut 4 days ago
@yellowlynx for what It Says or for The Spirit Of GOD/Law to be Present/True, at least in the fundamental way of trusting He Above we/me and naught outside of that
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut If the scripture is unreliable, full of mistakes, how can you trust it ?
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut The word used was Nakah, which according to what Moses referred in the account, was that God would "smite" the firstborn and they would die -- that is killing - plain and simple. "Perhaps taking them somewhere ?" So can you prove that Hitler is NOT God and he killed them not took 6 million Jews to somewhere "perhaps" ? XDDDDD
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@yellowlynx which has also been translated as strike or take (away) in the strongs/nasB, thanks n thank GOD
easily, Lord Willing, By The SCRIPTURE and Witness of God/Christ/Spirit!!
hitler does not 'fulfill' God nor Christ's Role in Scripture
the Jews Lord Willing be reverent and trusting unto The LORD Who Saves. God Does not cast down nor cast away such!
the hitler situation isn't a matter of 'wording' either being there are witnesses and photos etc still around. Lord Have
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut Yes, Hitler's deed were supported by evidence - but not your God - so the Exodos didn't occur. Secondly, no matter how many translation you try to quote, in the context, God killed firstborn of Egyptians, and there's no doubt, even Moses said God killed/slew them (NIV, KJV, NLT, NASB, The Message etc. all referred to that action as "killed", and in Hebrew, is the word Harag) - unless you want to say the Moses accused God of killing XDDDDDD
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@yellowlynx sure it did Lord Willin', a written account a(Scripture no less)and many a people and perhaps even Islam would vouch for God's Truth and moses' Calling, Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut "Perhaps" again ? you are not sure ? so your faith is just built on loads of "perhaps" XDDDDD
yellowlynx 5 days ago
@yellowlynx friend, say not such things. perhaps see the 180movie as well, but know even hitler i mayn't judge. i pray lk.23 Lord Willin for you and myself n all 'Forgive us/them Father...they/who 'know not what they do'' and i pray that we do come to know, revere The LORD and share His Way Truth And Life PLGB
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut In latest archaeological finds, there were no evidence of so called enslavement of Hebrews by Egyptians - sure, slaves were traded in many places then and among them were Hebrews, but no traces of Egypt enslaving an entire nation of people.All those who worked and built the monuments of ancient Egypt were local Egyptian builders and they were well paid. The Hebrews never left Canaan and simply took over small townships that were vacated.
yellowlynx 6 days ago
@yellowlynx Lord Knows how many hebrews there were back then! if egypt 'owned' sinai peninsula back then, wasn't too difficult to cross over nor have both living in that area.
'history' also told folks generally the pyramids were primarily carved, which had not much evidence either. but THE BIBLE said Hebrews were 'employed' albeit forcibly as 'brickmakers', geopolymer theory of pyramid construction.
try Bibleandscience website article on some of the other 'time period arch'
lockinglugnut 6 days ago
@lockinglugnut Bibleandscience website article is worthless in historical scholarship terms - the population claimed in the Bible (over a million men) was wildly exaggerated and was not consistent with what archaeology found about ancient population - ancient Egypt had only 1 - 2 million people in total - that estimate was based on the actual size of the ancient Egyptian cities (how many people they could hold), not your mythical Bible.
yellowlynx 5 days ago
@yellowlynx umm, it looks like you just agreed with Bibleandscience. they say 'over a million men' and your guess is apparently up to two million people. those numbers don't have to be inconsistent. nor is physical evidence without background, story, and corroboration always so telling or useful by itself. but faith in The LORD God Willing is, PLGB
Bibleskeptic (such a site should Lord Willing not exist i pray) puts the total egypt pop.at exodus at 3-5million.... o.Ot?
lockinglugnut 5 days ago
@lockinglugnut No... I am referring to the entire population of Egyptian, not the Jews. Read carefully before giving silly responses XD
yellowlynx 4 days ago
@yellowlynx i also referenced numbers on the population of egypt at the time, unfortunate at least one of those sources though. if you meant the population claimed in The Bible, you didn't cite which you meant above, so apologies for the confusion. please return w appropriate Biblical citations on that, etc. if you would, much appreciated Lord Willing, PLGB
lockinglugnut 4 days ago
@lockinglugnut I will not use Biblical citations because I knew the Pentateuch were just myths made up by Israelite priests and writers over a span of about 600 years (Check "Documentary Hypothesis")
yellowlynx 2 days ago
@yellowlynx o.Ot....no sure the pentateuch spans a *long* bit of history, from 'The Beginning' through moses up to joshua/caleb early on. the history itself occurred welllllllllll over 600 years. Lord Forgive be i wrong or offbase.
i may check out this 'idea', prayerfully and with The LORD's Help and Witness i hope/pray, i suggest you and me and all trust The True Source, The LORD Himself, which is Most Important, more than anything else, PLGB thanks n thank God
lockinglugnut 2 days ago
@lockinglugnut No. The Pentateuch was not written by Moses, but was added to, edited, copied from other Mesopotamian myths to form the version we saw today. The true authors were 5 groups of people from different period, all with their own religious and political agenda - the true source were human, not God.
yellowlynx 1 day ago
@yellowlynx the source of The Law is God, praise GOD through moses, and that it was passed down, translated, preserved, etc. for folks over time. moses may or mayn't have wrote it all down himself, Decalogue GOD Inscribed With His Own Finger, apparently, praise GOD. but tis The LORD's. not 'myth', not 'man's agenda', etc. Lord Willin, and Forgive be i wrong or offbase PLGB
lockinglugnut 1 day ago
@lockinglugnut You are wrong and offbase because actually the Bible was a human created document. Deuteronomy was forged by order of King Josiah, so that he could justify his policy of breaking all idols in the land of Judea. They claimed that it was a lost book of Law, but NO other sources testify that this book ever existed. Check this out: watch?v=m6MkPaNjfLk
yellowlynx 10 hours ago
@yellowlynx the dead sea scrolls weren't found til the 40s or 50s....20th century....does that mean they did not exist before? (thanks wiki etc. n thank GOD)
deuteronomy doesn't seem to go against the other pentateuch writings. yes josiah used it for his policy, i believe he's not noted as the original discoverer but one of the ministers of his time.
hezekiah and i think asa also had 'Law abiding' policies, the former smashed the bronze serpent. The Law preceded them Lord Willin and
lockinglugnut 5 hours ago
@lockinglugnut In modern biblical scholarship, Deuteronomy was concluded to be a composition entirely one after the time of Moses.
yellowlynx 5 hours ago