@summer20105707 i think you didn't get the Wargames reference. That was what the computer answered when the kid had wardialed every number in search of a server with some new games on it.
Nostalgic but remember this is just a terminal session so it's just spitting out pre-formatted data by the server. Sort of like my Android phone is able to run a terminal session to my windows box. Neither of these cases (TCP internet or Window) truly natively running on the host machine.
True enough. But I'm thinking of getting an ethernet device for this called the comet. And I hope to get TRUE internet that way. But you can still get your email with an account of this type. And my other reason for doing this was to show people the Vic 20 using a modem. I had a Vic as a child and just like many people I NEVER had a modem. So this was new and exciting for me. And I enjoyed sharing it with people.
Oh yes we all have thousands of facebook friends which translates to about 100 in REAL life. LOL Facebook's not bad but its a touch over rated. But you could easily get by twittering or chatting on this thing.
Thanks. Glad I could help. Its nice to see people still enjoy these old computers. Now check out the Ethernet modem for the c64. That should be useful to you
I checked it out. It looks good to me. As far as Jim Brains products are concerned I can tell you this. A few years ago I bought an XM 1541 adapter off him for connecting my 1541 drive to my IBM PC and I found that it works great. Jim pays great attention to detail so I expect this product will be the same. This is a cartridge port ethernet adapter which should be very fast for you. At $50 its a deal. My Vic 20 however will need the comet.
@summer20105707 I'll let you know how I get on with it - i've a few bills to sort out first, so I'll hopefully get it by the end of the month. I'll be happy if I can just connect to my FreeBSD box from my Commodore. Eventually, I'd like to setup a part-time BBS on the C64 - Just proof of concept really..
Well, back in those days people would brag about CPS speeds ;)
"Short for Characters Per Second, CPS is a data transfer rate generally estimated from the bit rate and the character length. For example, at 2400 bps, 8-bit characters with start/stop bits (for a total of ten bits per character) will be transmitted at a rate of approximately 240 characters per second (cps). This can also refer to how fast a printer may be able to print. "
The internet has been around for decades but only certain people knew about it. However I agree that it is a little strange seeing a computer this old accessing it.
The internet has been around for decades but only certain people knew about it. However I agree that it is a little strange seeing a computer this old accessing it.
The internet has been around for decades but only certain people knew about it. However I agree that it is a little strange seeing a computer this old accessing it.
The internet has been around for decades but only certain people knew about it. However I agree that it is a little strange seeing a computer this old accessing it.
Aah! so it's just a terminal emulator over a modem connection. Sorry. Disregard my last comment. But anyways this is way cool, reminds me of those old BBS systems I used to visit with a DOS terminal emulator in the 90's ...
There are some people who are working on making an ethernet cartridge for it. Syd Bolton from the computer museum in Brantford ontario wrought a twitter client for it as well. I kept it simple with a terminal emulator.
Commodore rocks. Just If I've only used it at its full potential. Connecting to a network with this home computer ? ... something to to talk about next day at school. People don't understand the magic aruond this old HW, you can just compare FLOPS. I have 4 C64, 3 1541 drives and 4 1571 drives ... just because I lost this computer era so much. Also repaired my chilhood's C64 ... working rigth now.
Yeah I know the feelling. I grew up witrh the Vic 20. Most Vic 20 users never got to see it use a modem. Thats partially why I did this. Satisfying my own curiosity. And I'd have to say it was highly worth it. Congratulations on repairing your C64. What was wrong with it?
The sympthom was the famous black screen, very ocasionally turned into garbage caracters. I've used another C64 to test all the relevant chips (ROMS, VIC II, PLA, 6581, CIA'S), finally, trial and error with the soldered glue logic chips, and it was there. Some sort of latch as I remember. I repaired 4 C64 this year, the failures where quite cheap, none of the big chips were damaged.
Sorry, stupid question: what can you actually do with this connection? I doubt you can actually get Web functionality with it- dare say you'd be stuck with Telnet?
@thelyniezian Ally Sheedy (the 1980s version) might show up by the time The Hobbit loads up on my Spectrum...300 baud! That's screaming man. Wheres' my rucksack full of phone? I need to download stuff slowly and expensively. 30 years on....data tariff grief...who'd have thought?
The network is a freenet service. The actual hardware I'm using was originaly made for dial up bulletin board services. I put this all together just to show people how it actually works.
I had a Commodore 64 with a 1200 baud modem and i used Paper Clip 3 with a terminal in a word processing program. I use to use my 2 hours of freenet time connecting to NCF but the Internet did not work. But I was able to use chat rooms sig groups and send email using it.
Well thats all just a matter of perspective. My main point was to show how it all worked. Just to give people an idea of what the vic 20 is like when using a modem.
Cripes, that makes my old PC in 1991look good by comparison connecting with Kermit and Lynx.
And that PC was made mostly from rescued and recovered parts (a Tandy 1000SX 8088 @ 12MHz, Seagate 30MB drive, and a 1200/9600 modem) or cannibalized from other machines.
@summer20105707 - No, my parts were from 1985-1988, all used. I was a broke college student.
In 1991, the 80386 and Windoze 3.1 were high end and cost $2000 for a full machine. I put mine together from scrap for under $200. Windoze? Fat chance, I was stuck with PC-Type and PC-Calc as my software.
You got me on that one. I didn't have to assemble the Vic. They came ready to go right out of the box. But still your average equipment was at least 5 years newer than mine. And most importantly it got the job done for you.
@VideoWolf69 - Obviously you haven't kept up with nostalgia and modding fans.
Go read up on the Contiki operating system for 8-bit computers. It works on the Vic20, Commodore 64, Atari 8-bit computers, Apple II and many other older machines. It contains a GUI, a web browser and many other functions. Version 2.5 came out last month.
Youtube doesn't allow linking, so you'll have to search for this phrase:
In theory it could generate alot of bling. If you could get the latest stock quotes or news from various sources it could be used to read and send email. In fact thats what it was used for back in the day. It uses text files like any computer can today. Obviously it cant compete with a modern computer. But business transactions were done on these.
if your using the internet today you need to thank the 300baud modems of yester-year for creating the concept remote digital communications that led to the internet, For without people spending silly money on quite limited computers, we would not have the technology we have today.
Brings back memories - remember using a manual 300bd modem in the past. People are really spoilt now and take so much for granted :) Thanks for posting.
@brunster64 That is true. But I'll tell you that using the modem on a Vic 20 is a very interesting experience. Most people "including myself" used these mainly as games machines. So using a modem with it was a real treat. Its not all that difficult as long as you remember to switch the modem to outgoing calls.
Not a direct connection though... its a shell account. You could do the same with a local machine running a unix variant. (linksys router) and a serial connection to the that machine. This would eliminate the modem part and no dial up to do.
Fair enough.. But an ethernet card is in the works for the Vic and some people "Syd Bolton" have already used the vic on Twitter. It still counts as a connection to the internet. And you can probably still send emails with this. It wasn't easy to do this because I had to have all the right equipment and getting a working copy of the Vics terminal program as well as local freenets to operate off of. It was a fun experience to do this though. I'll tell you more.
I used freenets back in the early days of the internet when I had very little money to play with. And my earliest computer was a Vic 20. I always knew the Vic had modem's but my family never had the money to afford a modem. Well a few years ago a friend of mine gave me 2 Vic 20's and a 1541 drive and last year I decided to try to run them again. And after I got them running I wondered if there was some way to get them online using an old modem. There's more coming.
Then I remembered my experience with freenets and bulletin boards back in the 90's. And then I began my mission to get my Vic a modem and learn how to use it. I ended up buying the modem I used in this video on Ebay because it came with the terminal program on tape. And the cool thing about this modem is that the user has to actually dial the freenet phone number manually and then use the switch on the modem so the Vic takes over. It was new and fun for the Vic
Then I remembered my experience with freenets and bulletin boards back in the 90's. And then I began my mission to get my Vic a modem and learn how to use it. I ended up buying the modem I used in this video on Ebay because it came with the terminal program on tape. And the cool thing about this modem is that the user has to actually dial the freenet phone number manually and then use the switch on the modem so the Vic takes over. It was new and fun for the Vic
Makes me want to go get an acoustic coupler, an old rotary dial phone with a handset that will fit it and a female to female serial cable then go wardialing XD
with a bit of imagination it'd be like making a call to the future, the present time, that'd been so cool and then when u went back to school the following day u could tell ur classmates u called the future, and then they'd all wanna know stuff about the future :D
Very cool. It reminds me of all those late 70s early 80s sci-fi movies depicting what the future of computers held for us. Thanks for the neat demo. :)
Is there any way I can get some terminal software off the net and convert it to a tape image to do this, I've got a modem, it's for the c64 but I imagine it's generic and works with the vic (plugs into it anyway)
The 1670 modem will work on the Vic 20 with Victerm I. I know this because I've used it. When searching for the program its "Victerm I". They used a Roman Numeral instead of 1.
@summer20105707 Any idea if I can get a copy of this on the internet? could anybody copy it to a wave file and send it me? desperatly trying to get the vic on the net :o)
First I'd need to know the set up your Commodore has. Do you have a modem? Are you using a tape deck or disk drive? Send me a good blank tape and I'll make a backup copy for you. If you've got a disk drive and an xm 1541 you can download the software from your PC from a site called funet fi. The C64 has tonnes of terminal emulators. I suggest getting a 1541 cable or adapter. Thanks to that I downloaded tonnes of Vic 20 programes and demos.
You can log in from anywhere. Since it is a dialup connection you may pay a little long distance if your calling from far away. This modem that Im using is a Commodore 300 baud modem. It came with its own software called "victerm I" Its a terminal emulator program. It allows you to interact with the freenet. I havent tested it with email yet though. I made another video about the modem and software itself. there are several ways to get copies of the software. I'll tell you more.
No it doesn't. But if your thinking of getting one don't worry your monitor or TV RF modulator wible sound through your TV, monitor or even a stereo with RCA inputs.
@summer20105707 I am limited intelligence? I am sorry did you mean "your limited intelligence" :') The word pr0n was intentionally miss spelled for comical value . you make me laugh so I guess your not all bad :')
Well pat for another future video I'll show you how to download real vic 20 games off the net using 1541 adapter, disk drive and the Star Commander software for the PC. It sounds complicated but its really simple if you have all the pieces. Youll love it. You can get alot of vic 20 games free this way and even some of the awesome demos like robot warrior.
I have no idea about facebook. But I know for certain that its been done with twitter. The Vic can get on twitter so I assume Facebook is a possibility.
Well yes you could pay 500 dollars to buy something that'll only be used for texting and email, like facebook. Or you could save about 470 dollars program the Vic and potentially do it for a fraction of the cost. Or would that be too much thinking for you? As I said they've already done this with twitter as an example.
On the other hand the Vic can't play modern PC games. But if I'm only interested in sending messages why the hell would I pay more? 30 or 500 you do the math.
@RetroGamerVX Well the main thing you need in order to do this is a terminal program and modem. I lucked out. I found a complete Commodore automodem on Ebay. The previous owner took really good care of it. It had the modem, the terminal program on tape and all the original manuals. The same terminal program can be downloaded online at funetfi. The program name is Victerm I. For a download you will need an XA 1541 adapter and a 1541 disk drive. I'll do a video on this subject for reference.
It would be great if we could have a visual modern browser on it,but i'm just dreaming!
truebassB 1 week ago
@truebassB Thats true but there is a contiki web browser for the c64. Its supposed to be graphical with a mouse.
summer20105707 1 week ago
did you work in commodore company?
grzegorz2285 1 week ago
@grzegorz2285
No. But I had one of these systems when I was ten years old.. I knew many people who programmed them.
summer20105707 1 week ago
Dude I just geeked in my pants, awsome. :)
darthkrull69 4 weeks ago 2
@darthkrull69
Glad you liked it.
summer20105707 3 weeks ago
Awesome!!! You're a genius!!
smoketownog 4 weeks ago
@smoketownog
Thanks I appreciate the compliment.
summer20105707 4 weeks ago
So how well can that thing torrent? :p
somedudeguytv 1 month ago
Shal we play a game?
TAND0M 1 month ago
@TAND0M sure why not? :)
summer20105707 1 month ago
@summer20105707 How about a nice game of chess?
TAND0M 1 month ago
@summer20105707 How about a nice game of chess?
TAND0M 1 month ago
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@summer20105707 How about a nice game of chess?
TAND0M 1 month ago
@summer20105707 i think you didn't get the Wargames reference. That was what the computer answered when the kid had wardialed every number in search of a server with some new games on it.
moijk 2 weeks ago
@moijk
Oh yeah thats right. Lets play a game. Thermal nuclear war. :)
summer20105707 2 weeks ago
1 voter couldn't afford a vic 20.
1974Mysterious 1 month ago
why is my VIC-20 asking "SHALL WE PLAY A GAME?"
shesnailie 1 month ago
@shesnailie
I dont know. Try asking it what game it wants to play? LOL ROFL
summer20105707 1 month ago
@summer20105707
Wants to play "Global Thermonuclear War"
shesnailie 1 month ago
@shesnailie
Go for it. 2012's supposed to be an interesting year. LOL ROFL
summer20105707 1 month ago
I bet the porn looks blocky
Groome007 1 month ago
Nostalgic but remember this is just a terminal session so it's just spitting out pre-formatted data by the server. Sort of like my Android phone is able to run a terminal session to my windows box. Neither of these cases (TCP internet or Window) truly natively running on the host machine.
oldtwins 1 month ago
@oldtwins
True enough. But I'm thinking of getting an ethernet device for this called the comet. And I hope to get TRUE internet that way. But you can still get your email with an account of this type. And my other reason for doing this was to show people the Vic 20 using a modem. I had a Vic as a child and just like many people I NEVER had a modem. So this was new and exciting for me. And I enjoyed sharing it with people.
summer20105707 1 month ago
yeah but you update your facebook? lol
Doctorfreek 1 month ago
@Doctorfreek
Oh yes we all have thousands of facebook friends which translates to about 100 in REAL life. LOL Facebook's not bad but its a touch over rated. But you could easily get by twittering or chatting on this thing.
summer20105707 1 month ago
After the terminators pulse all the modern computers and string bill gates up by his entrails, these computers will be used by the RESISTANCE!
NonSapor 1 month ago
@NonSapor
And I'd be happy to donate mine to the worthy cause as long as I stay on as a trainer. We can't have rookies mishandling rare computers now can we?
summer20105707 1 month ago
I had the internet on my amiga 500 back in 1990, it was bbs sites etc, but i could download a picture in about 2 hours lol
Robertdub2006 1 month ago
@Robertdub2006
I had the same Amiga with a 2400 baud modem. Later I got an A1200 with TCP IP and a 56k modem. Ahh the good ole days.
summer20105707 1 month ago
I have a commodore 64 - Any points on where to get a terminal emulator, and hardware to connect it over TCP/IP rather than over a acoustic modem?
SeanOBriain 1 month ago
@SeanOBriain
Look for a program called Breadbox 64 on line. And there is a Ethernet modem for the 64 called the comet.
summer20105707 1 month ago
@summer20105707 Cheers for that - googled breadbox and the page has lots of info!
SeanOBriain 1 month ago
@SeanOBriain
Thanks. Glad I could help. Its nice to see people still enjoy these old computers. Now check out the Ethernet modem for the c64. That should be useful to you
summer20105707 1 month ago
@SeanOBriain
Let me know how it works when you get it eh? I might buy one.
summer20105707 1 month ago
@summer20105707 I came across a 64NIC+ which is even cheaper. Have a google of it and let me know what you think.. I found it on go4retro.com
SeanOBriain 1 month ago
@SeanOBriain
I checked it out. It looks good to me. As far as Jim Brains products are concerned I can tell you this. A few years ago I bought an XM 1541 adapter off him for connecting my 1541 drive to my IBM PC and I found that it works great. Jim pays great attention to detail so I expect this product will be the same. This is a cartridge port ethernet adapter which should be very fast for you. At $50 its a deal. My Vic 20 however will need the comet.
summer20105707 1 month ago
@summer20105707 I'll let you know how I get on with it - i've a few bills to sort out first, so I'll hopefully get it by the end of the month. I'll be happy if I can just connect to my FreeBSD box from my Commodore. Eventually, I'd like to setup a part-time BBS on the C64 - Just proof of concept really..
SeanOBriain 1 month ago
@SeanOBriain
Did you get your ethernet 64NIC+ yet? How good is it?
summer20105707 1 week ago
Nice! They should let you chose the language of that site... wasting valuable bandwidth on having a 2nd language there ;D
CHABBO 1 month ago
@CHABBO
Thats a good point.
summer20105707 1 month ago
@summer20105707
Well, back in those days people would brag about CPS speeds ;)
"Short for Characters Per Second, CPS is a data transfer rate generally estimated from the bit rate and the character length. For example, at 2400 bps, 8-bit characters with start/stop bits (for a total of ten bits per character) will be transmitted at a rate of approximately 240 characters per second (cps). This can also refer to how fast a printer may be able to print. "
CHABBO 1 month ago
Ah yes, the good old days of computing. Power on, boot up, jack in.
burnstagger 1 month ago
thank you. cool computer.
eldorado303 1 month ago
How bizarre!
marcusmalone 2 months ago
@marcusmalone
The internet has been around for decades but only certain people knew about it. However I agree that it is a little strange seeing a computer this old accessing it.
summer20105707 2 months ago
@marcusmalone
The internet has been around for decades but only certain people knew about it. However I agree that it is a little strange seeing a computer this old accessing it.
summer20105707 2 months ago
@marcusmalone
The internet has been around for decades but only certain people knew about it. However I agree that it is a little strange seeing a computer this old accessing it.
summer20105707 2 months ago
@marcusmalone
The internet has been around for decades but only certain people knew about it. However I agree that it is a little strange seeing a computer this old accessing it.
summer20105707 2 months ago
YES !! But can it download porn ? lol
wingnut4427 2 months ago
@wingnut4427
Yes but with VERY big pixels.
summer20105707 2 months ago
@summer20105707 mmmm ... big pixel porn. lol
wingnut4427 2 months ago
Aah! so it's just a terminal emulator over a modem connection. Sorry. Disregard my last comment. But anyways this is way cool, reminds me of those old BBS systems I used to visit with a DOS terminal emulator in the 90's ...
ksym 2 months ago
How in the hell do you fit a TCP/IP stack in VIC-20's small memory range?
ksym 2 months ago
@ksym
There are some people who are working on making an ethernet cartridge for it. Syd Bolton from the computer museum in Brantford ontario wrought a twitter client for it as well. I kept it simple with a terminal emulator.
summer20105707 2 months ago
@ksym
The ethernet cartridge will probably have extra ram built in.
summer20105707 2 months ago
Just think about it. Some preteen is in the next apartment/house, browsing the web on the iPod Touch he got for his birthday.
UseAbuseReuse 2 months ago
@UseAbuseReuse
Yes technology certainly has come a long way.
summer20105707 2 months ago
fascinating.. thanks for sharing!
luishomeroremohsiul 2 months ago
@luishomeroremohsiul
No problem. Glad you enjoyed it.
summer20105707 2 months ago
It does porn right?
Uberdude25 2 months ago 3
@Uberdude25
Oh yeah with REALLY big pixels. LOL
summer20105707 2 months ago
Commodore rocks. Just If I've only used it at its full potential. Connecting to a network with this home computer ? ... something to to talk about next day at school. People don't understand the magic aruond this old HW, you can just compare FLOPS. I have 4 C64, 3 1541 drives and 4 1571 drives ... just because I lost this computer era so much. Also repaired my chilhood's C64 ... working rigth now.
38911bytefree 3 months ago
@38911bytefree
Yeah I know the feelling. I grew up witrh the Vic 20. Most Vic 20 users never got to see it use a modem. Thats partially why I did this. Satisfying my own curiosity. And I'd have to say it was highly worth it. Congratulations on repairing your C64. What was wrong with it?
summer20105707 3 months ago
@summer20105707
The sympthom was the famous black screen, very ocasionally turned into garbage caracters. I've used another C64 to test all the relevant chips (ROMS, VIC II, PLA, 6581, CIA'S), finally, trial and error with the soldered glue logic chips, and it was there. Some sort of latch as I remember. I repaired 4 C64 this year, the failures where quite cheap, none of the big chips were damaged.
38911bytefree 3 months ago
@38911bytefree
Last year I repaired three Vic 20's with similar issues. Screens filled with garbage. All they needed was a VIC chip replacement.
summer20105707 3 months ago
TERMINAL READY.
#
BaldingEagle51 3 months ago
@BaldingEagle51 DIR /P
1xWertzui 3 months ago
Sorry, stupid question: what can you actually do with this connection? I doubt you can actually get Web functionality with it- dare say you'd be stuck with Telnet?
thelyniezian 3 months ago
@thelyniezian
It actually allows you to read news off Goolge. I've never tried emailing yet but I think it could be done.
summer20105707 3 months ago
@thelyniezian Ally Sheedy (the 1980s version) might show up by the time The Hobbit loads up on my Spectrum...300 baud! That's screaming man. Wheres' my rucksack full of phone? I need to download stuff slowly and expensively. 30 years on....data tariff grief...who'd have thought?
Rikk303 3 months ago
What can you actualy do on this network, and what's it meant for?
thelyniezian 3 months ago
@thelyniezian
The network is a freenet service. The actual hardware I'm using was originaly made for dial up bulletin board services. I put this all together just to show people how it actually works.
summer20105707 3 months ago
Now go to /b/
DJVM95 4 months ago
I had a Commodore 64 with a 1200 baud modem and i used Paper Clip 3 with a terminal in a word processing program. I use to use my 2 hours of freenet time connecting to NCF but the Internet did not work. But I was able to use chat rooms sig groups and send email using it.
ottawaoctane 4 months ago 3
@ottawaoctane
Ahh man wicked. That was so cool.
summer20105707 4 months ago
Purple looked more readable.
uriituw 4 months ago
@uriituw
Well thats all just a matter of perspective. My main point was to show how it all worked. Just to give people an idea of what the vic 20 is like when using a modem.
summer20105707 4 months ago
Cripes, that makes my old PC in 1991look good by comparison connecting with Kermit and Lynx.
And that PC was made mostly from rescued and recovered parts (a Tandy 1000SX 8088 @ 12MHz, Seagate 30MB drive, and a 1200/9600 modem) or cannibalized from other machines.
Ah, memories.
.
zxcv1234vcxz 4 months ago
@zxcv1234vcxz
Well it should look better. After all your old PC was from 1991 and this PC was from 1981. A full ten years apart. :-)
summer20105707 4 months ago
@summer20105707 - No, my parts were from 1985-1988, all used. I was a broke college student.
In 1991, the 80386 and Windoze 3.1 were high end and cost $2000 for a full machine. I put mine together from scrap for under $200. Windoze? Fat chance, I was stuck with PC-Type and PC-Calc as my software.
zxcv1234vcxz 4 months ago
@zxcv1234vcxz
You got me on that one. I didn't have to assemble the Vic. They came ready to go right out of the box. But still your average equipment was at least 5 years newer than mine. And most importantly it got the job done for you.
summer20105707 4 months ago
Now, if you could only get a browser to work on it.
VideoWolf69 4 months ago
@VideoWolf69 - Obviously you haven't kept up with nostalgia and modding fans.
Go read up on the Contiki operating system for 8-bit computers. It works on the Vic20, Commodore 64, Atari 8-bit computers, Apple II and many other older machines. It contains a GUI, a web browser and many other functions. Version 2.5 came out last month.
Youtube doesn't allow linking, so you'll have to search for this phrase:
contiki-os
.
zxcv1234vcxz 4 months ago
@zxcv1234vcxz
I see what you mean but i will need the 32k expansion cartridge as the contiki os requires 24k.
summer20105707 4 months ago
How much bitcoin will this generate in a year
wizard7132 4 months ago
@wizard7132
In theory it could generate alot of bling. If you could get the latest stock quotes or news from various sources it could be used to read and send email. In fact thats what it was used for back in the day. It uses text files like any computer can today. Obviously it cant compete with a modern computer. But business transactions were done on these.
summer20105707 4 months ago
@wizard7132 could you explain "bitcoin" for me? thanks
pcvideogamer 4 months ago
if your using the internet today you need to thank the 300baud modems of yester-year for creating the concept remote digital communications that led to the internet, For without people spending silly money on quite limited computers, we would not have the technology we have today.
beingatliberty 4 months ago 10
@beingatliberty
So true my friend. So true.
summer20105707 4 months ago
The vic was my first computer...Thanks for the vid!
metalmoto 4 months ago
@metalmoto
You're welcome.
summer20105707 4 months ago
My first computer :)
paranormaalutrecht 4 months ago
Does Vic have a RAM expansion fitted?
ntrtube 4 months ago
@ntrtube
No. No expansion is needed for this program. Just a ordinary off the shelf vic.
summer20105707 4 months ago
....but can it run Crysis?
dedpxl 4 months ago
@dedpxl
Who cares... Crysis s__s. LOL
summer20105707 4 months ago
Brings back memories - remember using a manual 300bd modem in the past. People are really spoilt now and take so much for granted :) Thanks for posting.
brunster64 5 months ago
@brunster64 That is true. But I'll tell you that using the modem on a Vic 20 is a very interesting experience. Most people "including myself" used these mainly as games machines. So using a modem with it was a real treat. Its not all that difficult as long as you remember to switch the modem to outgoing calls.
summer20105707 5 months ago
When handling the telephone headset I expected to hear a computer voice ask, "Would You Like To Play A Game?"
kaptaintrips 5 months ago 6
@kaptaintrips
That would have been amusing. lol
summer20105707 5 months ago
@kaptaintrips Hahaha... Great movie!
4gasem 5 months ago
is the terminal program a machine language program or a basic program ??
xadam2dudex 5 months ago
@xadam2dudex
machine language
summer20105707 5 months ago
thank you so much for this post man
NEILVANCE 5 months ago
Very cool. I remember that I used my C64 to log on the Internet (gopher/irc/...) in early 90's with another kind of 300bps modem. I feel old.. ;-)
GumbyQc 5 months ago
That was great! TY.
robin56 5 months ago
@robin56
You're welcome.
summer20105707 5 months ago
OMG IM DOWNLOADING A MOVIE ON A 300 BAUD MODEM!!
wizard7132 5 months ago
@wizard7132
Actually if you're using the Rogers network and any Microsoft operating system it's just about the same. "Joking" LOL ROFL
summer20105707 5 months ago
Not a direct connection though... its a shell account. You could do the same with a local machine running a unix variant. (linksys router) and a serial connection to the that machine. This would eliminate the modem part and no dial up to do.
Astinsan 5 months ago
@Astinsan
Fair enough.. But an ethernet card is in the works for the Vic and some people "Syd Bolton" have already used the vic on Twitter. It still counts as a connection to the internet. And you can probably still send emails with this. It wasn't easy to do this because I had to have all the right equipment and getting a working copy of the Vics terminal program as well as local freenets to operate off of. It was a fun experience to do this though. I'll tell you more.
summer20105707 5 months ago
@Astinsan
I used freenets back in the early days of the internet when I had very little money to play with. And my earliest computer was a Vic 20. I always knew the Vic had modem's but my family never had the money to afford a modem. Well a few years ago a friend of mine gave me 2 Vic 20's and a 1541 drive and last year I decided to try to run them again. And after I got them running I wondered if there was some way to get them online using an old modem. There's more coming.
summer20105707 5 months ago
Respond to this video...
Then I remembered my experience with freenets and bulletin boards back in the 90's. And then I began my mission to get my Vic a modem and learn how to use it. I ended up buying the modem I used in this video on Ebay because it came with the terminal program on tape. And the cool thing about this modem is that the user has to actually dial the freenet phone number manually and then use the switch on the modem so the Vic takes over. It was new and fun for the Vic
summer20105707 5 months ago
Respond to this video...
Then I remembered my experience with freenets and bulletin boards back in the 90's. And then I began my mission to get my Vic a modem and learn how to use it. I ended up buying the modem I used in this video on Ebay because it came with the terminal program on tape. And the cool thing about this modem is that the user has to actually dial the freenet phone number manually and then use the switch on the modem so the Vic takes over. It was new and fun for the Vic
summer20105707 5 months ago
Should af shown un you porn. Could have seen some huge pixels doing things to each other.
71006374 5 months ago
Makes me want to go get an acoustic coupler, an old rotary dial phone with a handset that will fit it and a female to female serial cable then go wardialing XD
er10b 6 months ago
Hell guy I thought your commentary was spot on, brilliant job. I had a Vic-20 as a child and this brought back warm memories, thank you!
RD400D78 6 months ago
jajajajaj q asco si no hjay internet ni fotos hijos de puta
eadomino2 6 months ago
@eadomino2
Sí mi amigo. Estoy de acuerdo contigo. Imágenes en internet son para un grupo de coños flojos.
summer20105707 6 months ago
I didn't know seth rogen was into computers...
TheThomjGregory 6 months ago 2
@TheThomjGregory
Well Seth Rogen's into alot of things. LOL
summer20105707 6 months ago
with a bit of imagination it'd be like making a call to the future, the present time, that'd been so cool and then when u went back to school the following day u could tell ur classmates u called the future, and then they'd all wanna know stuff about the future :D
nephildevil 6 months ago
Very cool. It reminds me of all those late 70s early 80s sci-fi movies depicting what the future of computers held for us. Thanks for the neat demo. :)
TheBladeJunker 6 months ago
That is brilliant.
wisteela 6 months ago
Is there any way I can get some terminal software off the net and convert it to a tape image to do this, I've got a modem, it's for the c64 but I imagine it's generic and works with the vic (plugs into it anyway)
RetroGamerVX 6 months ago
@OBSysteme
good enough. This has all the makings of a good deal and friendship.
summer20105707 6 months ago
@OBSysteme
Okay Im ready to do this swap with you. I found my tape and cassette deck and Im ready to go. But we'll need to exchange mailing addresses.
summer20105707 7 months ago
@OBSysteme
Deal... We'll need to exchange eachothers mailing addresses. And then I'll dig out my tape deck.
summer20105707 7 months ago
@OBSysteme
The 1670 modem will work on the Vic 20 with Victerm I. I know this because I've used it. When searching for the program its "Victerm I". They used a Roman Numeral instead of 1.
summer20105707 7 months ago
@summer20105707 Any idea if I can get a copy of this on the internet? could anybody copy it to a wave file and send it me? desperatly trying to get the vic on the net :o)
RetroGamerVX 6 months ago
@OBSysteme
There was also a twitter client made for the vic 20. And the C64 has one called breadbox 64. I hope I've satisfied your questions. :-)
summer20105707 7 months ago
@OBSysteme
First I'd need to know the set up your Commodore has. Do you have a modem? Are you using a tape deck or disk drive? Send me a good blank tape and I'll make a backup copy for you. If you've got a disk drive and an xm 1541 you can download the software from your PC from a site called funet fi. The C64 has tonnes of terminal emulators. I suggest getting a 1541 cable or adapter. Thanks to that I downloaded tonnes of Vic 20 programes and demos.
summer20105707 7 months ago
@OBSysteme
You can log in from anywhere. Since it is a dialup connection you may pay a little long distance if your calling from far away. This modem that Im using is a Commodore 300 baud modem. It came with its own software called "victerm I" Its a terminal emulator program. It allows you to interact with the freenet. I havent tested it with email yet though. I made another video about the modem and software itself. there are several ways to get copies of the software. I'll tell you more.
summer20105707 7 months ago
WOW commodore 64 internet!! lol im gonna test this ti have experience
MrLoliep 7 months ago
correction.. Will enable sound through your TV monitor or stereo.
summer20105707 7 months ago
an unrelated question. but does the vic 20 have a internal speaker?
kyotoair 7 months ago
@kyotoair
No it doesn't. But if your thinking of getting one don't worry your monitor or TV RF modulator wible sound through your TV, monitor or even a stereo with RCA inputs.
summer20105707 7 months ago
@summer20105707 thanks for the reply. i'm in the prosess getting a VIC-20 myself. Can't wait!!
kyotoair 7 months ago
Seth Rogan Narrates
photoddgrapher 7 months ago
@photoddgrapher
thanks.. I still say I have a decent yoda voice.
summer20105707 7 months ago
download all the pr0n
godieinafirenow 8 months ago
@godieinafirenow
This comment shows you're limited intelligence troll. prOn. Bloomin retarded troll. :-)
summer20105707 8 months ago
@summer20105707 I am limited intelligence? I am sorry did you mean "your limited intelligence" :') The word pr0n was intentionally miss spelled for comical value . you make me laugh so I guess your not all bad :')
godieinafirenow 8 months ago
@godieinafirenow
I may have been a little rude so I appologize. Peace.
summer20105707 7 months ago
@godieinafirenow
DNFTT
Do not feed the trolls. LOL
summer20105707 8 months ago
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@godieinafirenow
this is pr0n!
jatimatiktimoska 7 months ago
awesome video!!!
patduch636 8 months ago
@patduch636
Well pat for another future video I'll show you how to download real vic 20 games off the net using 1541 adapter, disk drive and the Star Commander software for the PC. It sounds complicated but its really simple if you have all the pieces. Youll love it. You can get alot of vic 20 games free this way and even some of the awesome demos like robot warrior.
summer20105707 8 months ago
Who would have thought all those years ago when the Vic 20 was launched it would be connected to a world wide network.. Truly Amazing!!!
Retr0Rewind 9 months ago
@Retr0Rewind
Yes sir. The Vic has certainly surpassed all expectations for it.
summer20105707 9 months ago
can you get on Facebook with the VIC 20?,It's a far cry from the Intel Core 2 Duo processor,Windows 95,98,2000,Millenium,XP,Vista and 7.
53ra79ps5 9 months ago
Can you get on Facebook with the VIC 20?,it's a far cry from the Intel Core 2 Duo processor and Windows 95,98,2000,Millenium,XP,Vista,7 and Linx.
53ra79ps5 9 months ago
@53ra79ps5
I have no idea about facebook. But I know for certain that its been done with twitter. The Vic can get on twitter so I assume Facebook is a possibility.
summer20105707 9 months ago
@53ra79ps5
Well yes you could pay 500 dollars to buy something that'll only be used for texting and email, like facebook. Or you could save about 470 dollars program the Vic and potentially do it for a fraction of the cost. Or would that be too much thinking for you? As I said they've already done this with twitter as an example.
On the other hand the Vic can't play modern PC games. But if I'm only interested in sending messages why the hell would I pay more? 30 or 500 you do the math.
summer20105707 8 months ago
Wow, that's bloody amazing, I've love to get my good old vic to do that, never thought it could :o)
RetroGamerVX 9 months ago
@RetroGamerVX Well the main thing you need in order to do this is a terminal program and modem. I lucked out. I found a complete Commodore automodem on Ebay. The previous owner took really good care of it. It had the modem, the terminal program on tape and all the original manuals. The same terminal program can be downloaded online at funetfi. The program name is Victerm I. For a download you will need an XA 1541 adapter and a 1541 disk drive. I'll do a video on this subject for reference.
summer20105707 9 months ago
Excellent stuff. a twitter client was made for the C64 i wonder if one is possible for the VIC :)
IntrinsicPalomides 10 months ago
@IntrinsicPalomides
Yes... Its been done already. The vic 20 has sent tweets. Check out Vic 20 sends tweets from Syd Bolton. Its incredible. You'll love it. :-)
summer20105707 10 months ago
Thanks to bringing me back when I was 10! Now I am 38 and I can't believe how fast the technology has evolved!
domdom111111 1 year ago
@domdom111111
Thats true my friend. Technology sure has changed but I still love my Commodores. They can be lots of fun.
summer20105707 1 year ago
Sorry i am a tech-retard, so forgive me if this is a silly question, but can you go to the google homepage with that?
mty1 1 year ago
@mty1
Yes by using the lynx text web browser
summer20105707 1 year ago
Wow! Can a C=64 do that too?
fixman88 1 year ago
@fixman88
Yes actually it can. Ive done it with a C64 and 128 as well. They can handle it very well.
summer20105707 1 year ago
Great retroputing video! Thanks for making and uploading it. :)
ObiWanBillKenobi 1 year ago
@ObiWanBillKenobi
Your welcome. I just thought this is something many people would love to see.
summer20105707 1 year ago
Sure thing dude. I'll get the number to asap. :-)
summer20105707 1 year ago
could you pm me the number? I'm wanting to try this my self, thanks
LuigiFan128 1 year ago