I think what's going on now is we're seeing the convergence of an inevitable truth with the resistance/compliance of our own conspiracy theories, religions, and learned behavior. Youtube pages like tabs of judgement that will be passed down, while rising. I dig the idea of oneness and I think when you think of what the word "zeitgeist" means, conspiracy theorists are included. We live in a new era, if you even stop to watch videos like these, you're prolly feeling the zeitgeist
@PepperNinja0069 Perhaps you can explain why you define the NWO as the monetary system. The NWOs purpose is to create world government, Zeitgeist supports this but wants a "good world government" whatever that is. Their bogeyman man uses religion and the free market to control, when in reality the NWO slaughtered tens of millions of people in China and Russia in the name of destroying traditional religious belief and an end to the free market. China is the NWO ideal.
this is an extremely short sighted point of view that delves too deeply into what is depicted in the movies. on top of that drawing on name drops and such arbitrary connections such as "Venus Project = Satan" is a waste of breath. Loose connections like this are present through and through in this "documentary".
@dancingonthehoods im a globalist too, but a one world dictatorial government dosen't sound too appealing to me. read the book 1984 or watch the movie. you'll understand most people's point of view on the NWO. i want a global community, but not like that.
a simple example: If you tell a young kid that a orange = a apple and a apple = an orange he will tell that to his own children... they also show you how easy it is to manipulate the brain of a human. and to rikk06: "save myself 2 hours by reading a 707 page book" maybe you should read the book first before you say anything about it... that's also a big point of zeitgeist... most people believe and talk about what they've seen on tv last night... but did they do their own research? . . . . . .
@ZeitgeistDebunked While you are not completely correct in your assertions, the parallels you have drawn do not escape me. In some ways you are right. However it is a big jump to claim the Zeitgeist movement is some kind of proganda-ambasador for the so-called New World Order.
Make no mistake, a New World Order is emerging and what is to become is down to you and your actions.
We can have the 'New World Order' of the Elites or we can have the NWO of the people. Simple as that my friend.
i am fuckin tired of retards who says Zeitgeist is "monetary-ism".. What do u not understand about a resourced based economy! THE WORLD IS FUCKED UP! We need to make a fuckin change.... Instead of using your time making these videos, find out your own fuckin way to make everyone happy! U can atleast make me happy, by jumping of a cliff! Peace!
Hmm the humanistic attitudes of the zeitgeist movement, are really just an attempt to take over the world, to form an autonomous autocratic society, where we are all equal. That sounds awful!!!! LMAO
@DeathBYDesign666 maybe you should imagine a world where we are all equal. We still will be different from each other and that would automatic give us more respect for each other and create a more stable community there will be more time to do fun stuff. and more time for doing things you like. For example America! "the land of freedom!" but you all have your obligations which is actually funny because freedom actually means no obligations. So please try to watch/explore further than just tv ;)
Yes, but apart from your pro-capitalist and anti-communist propaganda (which let's face it, it's nothing less that your personal preference and opinion), where the hell is the debunking?
to the author: While you are not completely correct in your assertions, the parallels you have drawn do not escape me. In some ways you are right. However it is a big jump to claim the Zeitgeist movement is some kind of proganda-ambasador for the so-called New World Order.
Make no mistake, a New World Order is emerging and what is to become is down to you and your actions.
We can have the 'New World Order' of the Elites or we can have the NWO of the people. Simple as that my friend.
The awesome thing about this video is that because the ideas that are put forward by the Zeitgeist movement are so sensible, rational and obvious that it makes "critique" videos like this one look like an amusing absurdity.
So let me see if I have this right. The movement that continually points out conspiracies of those who want to take over the world...is a conspiracy made by the people that want to take over the world? I get labelled as a crazy conspiracy theorist all the time and it pisses me off....but god DAMN, you people are the EPITOME of crazy conspiracy theorists.
ZEITGEIST is the BIG IDEA=NWO= inovations in the empire = highly scientific fascist autocracy.The perfect slave is the one who think he's free (people will love it)
The three pillars of the empire; vatican-spiritual, washington-militar, london-economic.
Jesuit scientists of the pontifical academy of science decided that the old religion is outdated, no longer compatible with revolution in military affairs.
TRANSCENDENTAL EMPIRICISM new age religion= atheism, compatible with science
ZEITGEIST is the BIG IDEA=NWO= inovations in the empire = highly scientific fascist autocracy.The perfect slave is the one who think he's free (people will love it)
The three pillars of the empire; vatican-spiritual, washington-militar, london-economic.
Jesuit scientists of the pontifical academy of science decided that the old religion is outdated, no longer compatible with revolution in military affairs.
TRANSCENDENTAL EMPIRICISM new age religion= atheism, compatible with science
Like all the Anti-Zeitgeist / Venus Project material on the web, this video consists of making connections where there are none, or simply misunderstanding / misrepresenting their ideals and what they are trying to propose.
Example: Portraying the microchip implant the NWO is planning introduce for population control vs. the Venus Project's ideal to apply any technological advancement for a saner and more peaceful world, as being one in the same ideology.
@beebop46n2 Agree, i just watched it cuz everybody takls about it, and i had to type in "zeitgeist is nwo" to see if others had noticed the same things i did. it was pure nwo propaganda
I'm so angry I could scream, You fucking people can't let go of your intangible paradise you'll hold onto any little tiny irrelevant thing just to keep your lies going! NONE of these stupid debunking videos cover hardly ANY of the movie, just the few couple things you found that you think could be interpreted anyway you want. Kinda like your fuckin bible. the generalizations were meant to make people think, you should try it sometime
You are so pathetic you NEVER once tell your brainwashed uneducated supporters that the ancient Hebrew langauge NEVER had "J" letter consonants, therefore biblical words like Jesus, Jew, Jehovah, Jerusalem, etc... are NOT even Hebrew. Not to mention the vowels have to be taken out too because Hebrew had no vowels as we know them, nor any J consonants. How does it make you feel to keep lieing and brainwashing the masses of uneducated flocks of mind controlled "sheep" ????
What a bunch of crap. Now Zeitgeist is NWO propaganda? This YouTube channel is religious conservative propaganda and it reminds me of Alex Jones' initiative. The latter's website (criticizing ZG) is highly similar to 'ZeitgeistDebunked.' It's easy to see who's behind this channel. You apparently have nothing to gain with ZG and that's why you're trying to debunk it.
I'm behind the zeitgeist movement 100% there is nothing wrong and nothing harmful to anyone with what they advocate. Its just pure logic. My country is the world and my religion is to do good!!!
They named the The Venus Project after the town they live in, Venus in Florida. And as said before, Fresco is against governments controling the people, and ... mankind merging with technology? It's allready been done, and is improving our lifestyles! (Pacemakers, hearing-aid)
Nice propaganda piece to discredit Zeitgeist. I can see right through this piece of nonsense you have put together.
There is nothing inherently wrong with a 'new world order' so long as it unifies humanity, and is not the Facist kind of the "NEW WORLD ORDER" that Alex Jones and David Icke speak of.
If you want to know where we're headed, just read Gene Roddenberry's work. Or watch some Star Trek. It will help explain.
@zmc33 I take your point...but I do not mean SOCIALISM in the modern sense. I am talking about social values. the basics of human society. Think about it this way, SOCIALISM, COMMUNISM, CAPITALISM, none on their own work. I would like to explain further, but this is an inadequate place. (the comments i mean)
freedom and independence for the individual..something that has fallen by the wayside in the modern world. we are all classified into groups nowadays....
i think we should care for the sick and poor, but i also feel that government should not force that upon the people.
freedom is NOT about privatizing gains and socializing losses. our govt has turned soft-fascist.
Fresco don't encourage, the "cheep Implant" the government does.
Fresco opposes the idea of government control, and government encourages the idea of government control.
If you heart don't work you prob want a new one instead of the alternate death option, so as humans progress many more pieces will be available.
You can't say be conservative with technology and then make a call on your cellphone as that is super human ability of communicating with someone at a large distance.
Fav'd, your not wrong in your observations of symbolism and similarities with other works - however when one understands what Krishnamurti promoted in many of his discussions; self inquiry is not what the agenda being played out encourages...
Regardless of his upbringing the thoughts he shared were in no way designed to constrain but rather free us.
Lucifer was called the son of the morning star, he was also called the morning star. And you know what? Christ also called himself the morning star. Think that.
Lucifer is called son of the morning. That vs. (Isaiah 14:12) is about how he fell from God's glory and grace. English is a sorry translation of the Bible. In the words of my Savior 29Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.
Proving that the Venus Project is the same as communism is nearly the same as proving it to be the same as the NWO.
Really it accomplishes nothing.
I don't doubt he might have gotten some inspiration from these ideas, infact doing so would be ideal. No use reinventing the wheel everytime. Though you will probably use the 'but it never worked' arguement there.
Sigh. Arguing on the internet is stupid so I am not going to bother anymore.
save myself 2 hours by reading a 707 page book? anyways, lets go ask a person who can see or hear or walk again what they think of man mixing with technology. man you are stupid, but lets continue. bah if it's not new atlantis, then it's new rome or new isreal or new zion etc etc whatever bro...not watching part 2 you are wasting my time. basically you are saying if the venus project never happens the NWO will have failed? is this a troll video? it's so badly done i think i'm being trolled here
you just debuinked yourself with some middle eastern fairy tale crap about angels and heaven.. please bro you almost lost me. did satan come before hand and name venus florida too? i hate dumb asses who say it's communism. you're really showing your intellectual limitations and lack of research on the venus project here man. circular cities are more efficient, men guide technology and it serves men, you've been watching too much i-robot and terminator i think...
@rikk06 condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance .. why dont you all go research this instead of just coming out with uneducated comments about this.. The venus project is just a deception to capture the weak minded like yous all here..& the NWO is not a thing. Its just a fucking idea... ffs, do you idiots know anything away from stupid ass jew-tube..
@illuminatisos well i'll tell you i'm well read in a variety of religions and philosophies, aswell as several different christian faiths etc. so don't worry, i'm not ignorant. secondly i'll tell you that you're right the NWO is just an idea, because the same men running the world into the ground now will just go turn-coat and re-emerge as the new world government. a government that will set straight "the system." kind of like infecting someone with an illness and then selling them the cure...
About the bible as a source, usually people will want to debate me like "I can disprove everything in that movie.................. The bible even says" and then I am disappointed for wasting my time. I wont debate any "religious" person because they have no logical grounds due to their source.
OH! I must apologize then I only went back to the comments on the first page. Sometimes its hard to tell who's debating what without seeing the first "sword drawn" if you will. In that case we are on complete agreement and I am also part of the movement. Michigan chapter meeting August 16th at noon.
I am busy with work and school, but I would be delighted to have a logical debate with you on this issue. You, unfortunately however cannot use the bible as a source because you cannot use the basis of the argument as a source. i.e. World Banks says poverty is decreasing. I do forget the fallacy which this falls under so I'll have to get out my logic book again.
Voiceofreason467 I would like to know how you checked everything out because I have read modern money mechanics and it is true essentially. I think the film could have explained it better, but considering the lack of education the masses have, it needs to be put in lamens terms for better understanding. It is no coincidence the money supply goes up, the dollar goes down and there is massive layoofs combined with increased poverty. There needs to be a solution, and this is a good start.
I don't understand how this debunks the movie. Where are the links to Jacque's quotes about microchipping or merging with machines? And whatever is wrong with the government that is portrayed in the movie?
I don't see how this video is refuting anything. All these ideas so ideal it's beautiful.
However, the cyborg stuff that this video is talking about is a ridiculous misconception of the Fresco's idea. You can see that in his quote; modified species does not mean cyborg.
The Venus project was founded in Venus, Florida... The city Venus. I'm don't think that it has anything to do with Lucifer. and I have to agree with Zeitgeist and I guess Blavatsky when they say "resources belong to no nation but should be shared by all" or "All resources are the natural inheritance to all the worlds people" That is the way it should be when we have abundance... why should 1% of the population have half the worlds wealth?? Just my opinion.
no religious minded people have a faith and belief structure.they feel comfortable and safe with it.if a gov says its following said religion then those types of people will back the gov to continue the feelings of familiarity and safety. hence the establishments involved in the gov influences the masses. your defending a religion and all those in it. this includes the establishments that claim association with religion.pleas open your mind to the ideas in zeitgeist & try to be civil next time
this is just more propaganda trying to sell religious minded people the idea that solid governing needs to be based on or with religion. its call separation of religion and state and its there for a good reason.
youre new name shall be idiotus maximus for such an idiotic comment. okay listen idiotus religious minded people are the people that fight authority and nations for they are the ones oppressed the most. also idiotus religion and state are seperated for a reason so that the good nature of god wouldnt have power over nations but the laws of men and the laws of those who want to control remove all governments ,religions and currencies to make 1 world government world religion and 1 world currency
i love freedom thats why i hate capitalism its a bs system to keep us going in circles chasing worthless paper. i am in no way communist your a bullshitter
I can be a devil worshiper an cure AIDs at the same time. That does not mean solving Aids was a bad thing. Im not religious. So linking GOOD ideas to unholy people means nothing to me.
Also, zeitgeist does not push for socialism. If you watch it at all you know that it is against ALL FORMS OF MONITARY SYSTEMS.
youre name shall be moranis for the moronic comment. the video of zeitgeist adds truths with poison such as is used against rats 98% substance and 2% poison like flouride. by adding 98% truth and lies about religion. people who are moronic such as youre self. will believe that since the other parts are true the other part must be true as well. connecting dots is true research and the most wisest way to find truths.
There is a difference between socialism and fascism. Fascism is where the US is heading, ' the fusion of government and private big business' as defined by Mussolini. The socialisation of debt to be paid by ordinary citizen (tax) to pay for the fraud of the rich.
Visit Hal Lindsey's or Jack Van Impe's web-sites. They BOTH tie all of today's current events to Biblical Prophecy. ESPECIALLY Hal Lindsey. There is no doubt that we are living in the end of days just as prophecied in the Holy Bible. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord TODAY. It is your free will to do so, and remember that God was WARNED man, and he did it with the greatest way, without presenting himself materially.......through PROPHECY. God is great!!!! You have been warned
Now you can stop viewing this video when it says stupid things like "freedom loving americans", that's actually an attack to our intelligence... LOL , i had to admit, that did make me laugh a while.
i watched that movies, the obvious attempt at brainwashing(rinse and repeat) by saying the same thing over and over the first 30 minutes was both boring and nauseating to say the least.. but sadly very effective judging by the cheering comments left by other veiwers. theyre failing to ask important questions, they were all for this deception and its flawed design.
when I first saw addendum I was shocked. This film is full of lies (specially about religion) I'm not saying religion is today anything more that form of control but this film is a bullcrap for anybody who knows anything about ancient religions. And the part abt society... This is EXACTLY what New World Order is about. Technology at the center and humans "reprogrammed".
FED is a private corporation. I was talking about alternative that Zeitgeist offers. 'Zeitgeist Utopia' and NWO's plan for the world are actually about the same thing but PJ says oh it's not that bad cuz there's no good and evil (bs) so if there's no evil, there are no evil ppl so it'll be ok.
I dont care what the zeitgeist is, but to my close inspection is not part of the NWO, or whatever that is. I really think that NWO is an empty distinction, for it's use to hold people against any change proposed, for now anything is NWO, capitalism is NWO, communism is NWO, facism is NWO, freedom is NWO, slaves are NWO god is NWO, evil is NWO, utopia is NWO, non-utopia is NWO ... hell, i think even my dog is part of the NWO!! WTF!!?
I'm not saying that Zeitgeist is a part of NWO, I'm saying it's about the same thing. It's not an alternative cuz instead of Henry Kissinger you'd have PJ doing the same things. WTF? Good question :P NWO is a plan to bring total control over population through politics, religions, cult, gov's, media etc.Don't tell me ur dog is nwo cuz on national tv they said that we'll be microchipped before 2016 and most likely in 2010! Watch Obama Deception it's good if you dunno what's NWO.
I can't recall Kissinger calling to abolish money? can you point me to the right address, and sorry i dont watch TV but i do know the microchips and i know is real
So is zeitgeist NWO or not? for if is not we have a real chance to free ourselves.
Obama is a politician and politicians are useless. So let's forget about Obama and start working before the real NWO falls upon us.
What's the problem with Lucifer? I never read anyting bad about him in the Bible; just that he 'is bad,' wherease I read in the Bible a lot of horrifying, horrible things about genocidal, infanticidal, vengerful, jealous YHWH.
You either want the world to remain exactly as it is forever with all it's problems, or you want a new world order, do you not? Not everyone who uses that phrase wants the same thing. They just each want the world to be ordered in a different way from the current way.
Bullshit you freaking idiot! people in latinAmerica are as brainwashed as you are, Z is freedom!! Que dices que nuestros sistemas monetarios no funcionan asi? pobre pendejo que ni para ver las paginas de su propio arrendador de dinero tiene.
Yeah, am the first one to beat the fuckers christians faith keepers... they killed millions of aztecs when they found that Quetzalcoatl was announced to his virgin mother chimalma, was a teacher with 3 disciples died and resurrected on the Gulf of Mexico! ... So yes, I care about my people so fuck them, and just so you know, here in Mexico, banxico is dirving us to our death!
Because you left that comment, you are scared of people who think for themselves.
Just because someone is trying to persuade you with their opinion doesn't mean they don't want you to think for yourself, they are simply practicing their free speech in the same way you are with your comment.
I was shown Part 3 of Zeitgeist about three years ago. Little did I know, I bought it. I couldn't believe I fell for it, but looking back, they said the sinking of the LUSITANIA led the US to enter World War I, not the discovery of the Zimmermann Note.
Looking at the film as a whole, I wonder if Peter Joseph (if that's his real name) is a Communist, or at least a Socialist.
If satanists believe money corrupts people and should be abolished and there should be freedom equity and tolerance then amybe their not that bad lulz.
Did you honestly just say that we could save 2 hours from watching zeitgeist by reading a book? I think the point of the zeitgeist films is that the information is condensed to give you a taste of many things that you can then go out and further investigate on your own if you choose.
It doesn't say micro chips but read revelation 13 specifically versus 11-18, its the same idea, maybe has been translated incorrectly, or maybe when it was written that was the only way to explain a micro chip to those who would have had no idea about modern technology
If anything is the product of the new world order it's this crapy propaganda piece.
It even copies the tone of "Zeitgeist" so the viewer is thrown off balance. If this were real information we would know it.
Whoever put this together did so to muddy the water. It's one of their main tactics. When a message is becoming part of the main stream and it goes against their agenda ...
They copy it and twist it .... this presentation is CRAP.
a perfect society cannot exist with imperfect beings. You dont even have to look at zeitgeist from a religious perspective. A utopia cannot exist on earth with human begins. Zeitgeist ONLY accepts the BF Skinner perspective of human behavior. While some of it is true. There are plenty of NATURAL development involved that the movie overlooks. just stop taking it in as gospel and look at the information from many perspectives.
We live on this earh and have no problem flumming smoke in the air doing nuclear testing and a few of you are gonna say misuse of this beautiful world weve been lucky enough to walk upon is better than using the knowledge weve gained through the years to work with it we have a beautiful gift we must work with and embrace
in other words.....i have a feeling that the material you are trying to propagate has more to do with lack of information, an overly inflated ego and a need to be noticed!!! CAN IT FOOL....WE DONT NEED IT.....WHAT WE NEED IS YOU.....WITH AN OPEN MIND....UNAFRAID OF A RADICAL WHOLISTIC CHANGE......NOT TO THE WORLD.....BUT TO ITSELF!
man.....i think you dont have a clue...what ur talking about here......all these big words my friend have good implications on individual lives like urs and mine....these big words like communism capitalism fascism budhism or fucking age old democracy or diplomatism............i dont think you have experienced a quater of those implications!!
ok!! how does the venus project find its grounding in the organized occult? what it talks about...as in its purpose applies to all the people who inhabit the particular city at a given time> how is it socialist/communist/marxist to liberate people from bondage of the enslavement of employment.............how is it occult to put the art sciene and technology centers bang in the center of an inhabbited space...open for all to use...................
I'm with coldvice1, what actually you this guys tries to say is that a new world order is not a good a idea at all, because is forged will be the same as now. Ok, now tell me wouldn't be better than the actual, corrupted, polluted, one? Why I really understand out of zeitgeist (the movie & addendum) is the fact that people should be educated so they can make their own conclusions and express by themselves. So by itself any difference we made between all of us, will be no more.
''Ok, now tell me wouldn't be better than the actual, corrupted, polluted, one''?
No, because now we have the safe guard of mutual destruction. The USA cant go on global conquests because it has the threat of other nations (and vice versa). A one world government would stand un apposed and un questionable, which historically is a very bad thing.
Who could possibly stand up to president of the world? With litterally 10times the power of Obama? I mean you are asking for enslavement.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I'm begining to think this whole New World Order conspiracy theory is propoganda using fear for people to lose hope in any kind of hope for the world. It tells you to prepare instead of to change. What a giant load of BULLSHIT! If you look for satanic symbols in thing's, you'll find it. People like this piss me off. Holy shit people, theyre trying to overcomplicate things. Remember, if its a simple answer, its usually the right answer.
That what u said is so REAL!! if its a simple answer... in most cases is the right answer! you get that by studying math, usually math is so easy if you think like that and is my belief it applies to many things.
since "masonic" states born in French revolution it begain to globalization ... in simple worlds control of world masses by media, "intelectuals", new spiritual freedom against Christian Jewish GOD...
Marx was like a prophet of communism
and no one talks about MILLONS AND MILLONS of deads on Russia on China etc
Marx wrote the manifest of the communist PARTY, now widely believe communism... and i have not read a manifest which claims everyone must have the exact same thing, you proly need to read it. yet i dont think communism will ever work for it needs open minded people to support it.
Now claiming China and Russia were communist states is like claiming that there is democracy and freedom in the States, and that the US has never killed any innocent child.
im saying that false doctrines who see religion like only a superstition and believers like mindless people ... communism and nazys they just KIll "all useless people" and its a new religion based on "science" and reason"???communism its FAKE and doesnt work outside theories.
Look i agree communism is a real utopia, however capitalism has the exact same working mecanism, for remember that there are thousands who died every month of poverty. Is just that they have masked it much better, So really capitalism, the never attempted communism , socialism, facism and all others social structures have failed, So why wouldn't we try something different.
Electronics have only logic instructions so don't worry, they wont take over the world but can help us if use towards good
i know an obvious response is 'but religion seperates us.. i get along fine with people of other religions and athiests as well.. im christian, and my fiance is pagan. so yeah differences do cause minor problems, that can sometimes lead to big problems.. so how do they get rid of other differences? race, language, personalities, sexuality, etc. all of these differences inspire things that can become negative and harmful
getting rid of responsibility wont make things better, only way this could logically succeed is if free will does not exsist. otherwise, lust, boredom, satire, anger, depression, fear etc will still take its toll on humanity... money and religion are not to blame. its human nature.
how did you get that from what i said? i never gave an indication that i support the war in iraq at all. i was saying pence is a good thing, but it has been misused, christianity is a good thing, and it has also been misused. i said this system they talk about in zeitgeist will not solve your problems. you yourself know that you can not blame your own shortcomings on religion and money and being needy. its a lie and an illusion, luciferian garbage.
I got that by association and I really don't remember i said an offense to you so basically am sorry if you found what I said offensive but I put a lot of time into research, so guess what, since Jesus does not exist, lucifer does not either.
by association? what am i, a politician? i dont benifit from war, i suffer from war, all people do. and im sure you did research, but you researched lies. i have never found a criedible source that denies jesus ever exsisted, i was an athiest for most of my life. but i was atleast honest with myself, and did not take one source with no credible evidence as a proof even tho it would have backed up what i wanted to believe. such as the ones in zeitgeist.
using luciferian doctrines to show proof of luciferian doctrines is not a credible example, that is bad research and many of the lies in zeitgeist are from luciferian doctrines, they have an agenda. but no evidence.
You just have to dig much deeper than that my friend. And i think you're having such a hard time understanding this: "If jesus, or god for that matter, does not exist, it also renders the devil, or lucifer if you will, void" That is very simple to understand, however i've noticed some people lack that notion because religion gets too much in the way or as i say, common sense may not be so common.
... Here we go i hope you pay close attention to what I say ok? You said it was human nature to have rich and poor, wealth and slavery, yes or no? OK, so Iraq had those resources and another country, let's say the US went to invade Irak bc of the oil, you get what am saying?
so why can this system not work without abolishing christianity? how would that be essential? will people not be aloud to believe what they choose to believe? that should be a red flag to you, especially if you ever read the book of revelations
1st question: The system would not work without aboloshing not only Christianity but all religious superstitions because they are thousand year old books that draw on absolutly no evidence and promote war, violence and discrimination. Second question (third really, since your second question just restated the first.) You can believe whatever the fuck you want to believe, but I strongly urge you not believe things based on fear and heresy. Take the book of revelations and stick it up your ass.
If you ask me, it's bad either way you go. Let's say that all of a sudden the people of the United States would take over the government. Then they'd be in power, and, as Alex Jones himself states, power corrupts and ultimate power corrupts ultimately. I don't think it matters who is in control, they will be just as corrupt all the time.
I don't know about you, but I have rule myself. The point I'm trying to make is that no matter what kind of society you live in, either communist or capitalist, there is always going to be someone who want's to be somehow superior to others. This is rather natural in capitalism and is also the reason why communism never works in the end.
Perhaps I can invite you to become one of the very low income people in Mexico who lives under 2 dollars a day... and you'll see "natural but no ethical" in a very different way ;)
actually i visited san cristobal de las casas in chiapas last week, it was a very eye opening in terms of wealth and what you choose to call wealth and power, thanks for the invite buddy but it seems i beat u to it!
I think what's going on now is we're seeing the convergence of an inevitable truth with the resistance/compliance of our own conspiracy theories, religions, and learned behavior. Youtube pages like tabs of judgement that will be passed down, while rising. I dig the idea of oneness and I think when you think of what the word "zeitgeist" means, conspiracy theorists are included. We live in a new era, if you even stop to watch videos like these, you're prolly feeling the zeitgeist
TrazMatik 1 month ago
this video is pure comedy! i had fun
Baprener 2 months ago
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JohnWhitesideParsons 3 months ago
can someone explain to me how zeitgeist is nwo when they call for the monetary system to be done away with all together?
PepperNinja0069 4 months ago
@PepperNinja0069 Perhaps you can explain why you define the NWO as the monetary system. The NWOs purpose is to create world government, Zeitgeist supports this but wants a "good world government" whatever that is. Their bogeyman man uses religion and the free market to control, when in reality the NWO slaughtered tens of millions of people in China and Russia in the name of destroying traditional religious belief and an end to the free market. China is the NWO ideal.
heatflash888 3 days ago in playlist Favorite videos
this is an extremely short sighted point of view that delves too deeply into what is depicted in the movies. on top of that drawing on name drops and such arbitrary connections such as "Venus Project = Satan" is a waste of breath. Loose connections like this are present through and through in this "documentary".
farberam 5 months ago
nwo = fear for the elites ????
PainkillerX17 5 months ago
wow chris white you never cease to fail
pistolpete667 5 months ago
Yes... Venus Project is obviously.. NWO...
.. I was excited..... revolution.. then.... they told us in one word.. the solution
TECHNOLOGY...
for a while I blamed naivety.. but now I'm waking up some more..
Atheistic shite... so me some positivity.. some understanding of the WHOLE..
And also.. NWO... is bad... tell us why... I mean.. one world sounds good... sharing sounds good... .. no?..
dancingonthehoods 5 months ago
@dancingonthehoods im a globalist too, but a one world dictatorial government dosen't sound too appealing to me. read the book 1984 or watch the movie. you'll understand most people's point of view on the NWO. i want a global community, but not like that.
randallschecter 4 months ago
a simple example: If you tell a young kid that a orange = a apple and a apple = an orange he will tell that to his own children... they also show you how easy it is to manipulate the brain of a human. and to rikk06: "save myself 2 hours by reading a 707 page book" maybe you should read the book first before you say anything about it... that's also a big point of zeitgeist... most people believe and talk about what they've seen on tv last night... but did they do their own research? . . . . . .
AAltjeh 5 months ago
@ZeitgeistDebunked While you are not completely correct in your assertions, the parallels you have drawn do not escape me. In some ways you are right. However it is a big jump to claim the Zeitgeist movement is some kind of proganda-ambasador for the so-called New World Order.
Make no mistake, a New World Order is emerging and what is to become is down to you and your actions.
We can have the 'New World Order' of the Elites or we can have the NWO of the people. Simple as that my friend.
DavidPositiveThinky 6 months ago
you are an idiot! hahahahahah ahhahah ahahahh ha
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youneekk 6 months ago
Cant believe so many people liked this video. You are filled with fear.
pphaY 7 months ago
The 2nd zeitgeist film contained about 90% of the first one, released ages before. Oh, and I think you got the EU and France mixed up...
nogeninnit 9 months ago
the first film was released ..."Right on Cue"..... WHAT FUCKING CUE?????? FUCK THIS PIECE OF SHIT.
craftymethod 9 months ago
i am fuckin tired of retards who says Zeitgeist is "monetary-ism".. What do u not understand about a resourced based economy! THE WORLD IS FUCKED UP! We need to make a fuckin change.... Instead of using your time making these videos, find out your own fuckin way to make everyone happy! U can atleast make me happy, by jumping of a cliff! Peace!
mastereismaname 10 months ago
Hmm the humanistic attitudes of the zeitgeist movement, are really just an attempt to take over the world, to form an autonomous autocratic society, where we are all equal. That sounds awful!!!! LMAO
DeathBYDesign666 10 months ago
@DeathBYDesign666 maybe you should imagine a world where we are all equal. We still will be different from each other and that would automatic give us more respect for each other and create a more stable community there will be more time to do fun stuff. and more time for doing things you like. For example America! "the land of freedom!" but you all have your obligations which is actually funny because freedom actually means no obligations. So please try to watch/explore further than just tv ;)
AAltjeh 5 months ago
@AAltjeh Dude please notice the hint of sarcasm!
DeathBYDesign666 5 months ago
@DeathBYDesign666 sorry my mistake!:P I think because of my enthousiasm
AAltjeh 5 months ago
Yes, but apart from your pro-capitalist and anti-communist propaganda (which let's face it, it's nothing less that your personal preference and opinion), where the hell is the debunking?
flyermay 10 months ago
to the author: While you are not completely correct in your assertions, the parallels you have drawn do not escape me. In some ways you are right. However it is a big jump to claim the Zeitgeist movement is some kind of proganda-ambasador for the so-called New World Order.
Make no mistake, a New World Order is emerging and what is to become is down to you and your actions.
We can have the 'New World Order' of the Elites or we can have the NWO of the people. Simple as that my friend.
ArchytypeNet 10 months ago
The awesome thing about this video is that because the ideas that are put forward by the Zeitgeist movement are so sensible, rational and obvious that it makes "critique" videos like this one look like an amusing absurdity.
AndroidSydney 10 months ago
So let me see if I have this right. The movement that continually points out conspiracies of those who want to take over the world...is a conspiracy made by the people that want to take over the world? I get labelled as a crazy conspiracy theorist all the time and it pisses me off....but god DAMN, you people are the EPITOME of crazy conspiracy theorists.
Jables098 11 months ago
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Jables098 11 months ago
It's called The Venus Project because it's located in the city of VENUS, FLORIDA.
You fail.
Jables098 11 months ago
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ZEITGEIST is the BIG IDEA=NWO= inovations in the empire = highly scientific fascist autocracy.The perfect slave is the one who think he's free (people will love it)
The three pillars of the empire; vatican-spiritual, washington-militar, london-economic.
Jesuit scientists of the pontifical academy of science decided that the old religion is outdated, no longer compatible with revolution in military affairs.
TRANSCENDENTAL EMPIRICISM new age religion= atheism, compatible with science
OrgonVpH7 1 year ago
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ZEITGEIST is the BIG IDEA=NWO= inovations in the empire = highly scientific fascist autocracy.The perfect slave is the one who think he's free (people will love it)
The three pillars of the empire; vatican-spiritual, washington-militar, london-economic.
Jesuit scientists of the pontifical academy of science decided that the old religion is outdated, no longer compatible with revolution in military affairs.
TRANSCENDENTAL EMPIRICISM new age religion= atheism, compatible with science
OrgonVpH7 1 year ago
Like all the Anti-Zeitgeist / Venus Project material on the web, this video consists of making connections where there are none, or simply misunderstanding / misrepresenting their ideals and what they are trying to propose.
Example: Portraying the microchip implant the NWO is planning introduce for population control vs. the Venus Project's ideal to apply any technological advancement for a saner and more peaceful world, as being one in the same ideology.
PDzero 1 year ago
Save yourselves from this bullshit, lol.
Uribaani 1 year ago
this is just drawing the same type of conclusions you claim to have debunked
elbers60 1 year ago
Posing as the opposition to the New World Order, THEY ARE THE NEW WORLD ORDER!
beebop46n2 1 year ago 2
@beebop46n2 Agree, i just watched it cuz everybody takls about it, and i had to type in "zeitgeist is nwo" to see if others had noticed the same things i did. it was pure nwo propaganda
wonamik 1 year ago
next time you make a video, knock off the f-cking rap beat in the back ground. If i wanted to listen to nigger music, i'd search for nigger music.
BeyondNeptune 1 year ago
@BeyondNeptune shut up you're just a racist.
aciddmc 1 year ago
@aciddmc hahahaha
aMessIaM 9 months ago
I'm so angry I could scream, You fucking people can't let go of your intangible paradise you'll hold onto any little tiny irrelevant thing just to keep your lies going! NONE of these stupid debunking videos cover hardly ANY of the movie, just the few couple things you found that you think could be interpreted anyway you want. Kinda like your fuckin bible. the generalizations were meant to make people think, you should try it sometime
jeffehdad 1 year ago
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BeyondNeptune 1 year ago
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You are so pathetic you NEVER once tell your brainwashed uneducated supporters that the ancient Hebrew langauge NEVER had "J" letter consonants, therefore biblical words like Jesus, Jew, Jehovah, Jerusalem, etc... are NOT even Hebrew. Not to mention the vowels have to be taken out too because Hebrew had no vowels as we know them, nor any J consonants. How does it make you feel to keep lieing and brainwashing the masses of uneducated flocks of mind controlled "sheep" ????
EducatedRebellion101 1 year ago
The World Freeman Society has a different outlook on things.
MisterTerryWrist 1 year ago
What a bunch of crap. Now Zeitgeist is NWO propaganda? This YouTube channel is religious conservative propaganda and it reminds me of Alex Jones' initiative. The latter's website (criticizing ZG) is highly similar to 'ZeitgeistDebunked.' It's easy to see who's behind this channel. You apparently have nothing to gain with ZG and that's why you're trying to debunk it.
TerraRubicon 1 year ago
Brutal video. THIS is propaganda.
I'm behind the zeitgeist movement 100% there is nothing wrong and nothing harmful to anyone with what they advocate. Its just pure logic. My country is the world and my religion is to do good!!!
m1a1rocker 1 year ago
@m1a1rocker
what to do with all the people that dont want any part of the zeitgeist???
kill em and take their shit ya?
zmc33 11 months ago
They named the The Venus Project after the town they live in, Venus in Florida. And as said before, Fresco is against governments controling the people, and ... mankind merging with technology? It's allready been done, and is improving our lifestyles! (Pacemakers, hearing-aid)
Waraigoto 1 year ago
Nice propaganda piece to discredit Zeitgeist. I can see right through this piece of nonsense you have put together.
There is nothing inherently wrong with a 'new world order' so long as it unifies humanity, and is not the Facist kind of the "NEW WORLD ORDER" that Alex Jones and David Icke speak of.
If you want to know where we're headed, just read Gene Roddenberry's work. Or watch some Star Trek. It will help explain.
ArchytypeNet 1 year ago
I think you can still be a freedom loving american, and still hold socialist values.
After all, with the SOCIAList aspect, what is society? People are sociable creatures. some food for thought here.
ArchytypeNet 1 year ago
@ArchytypeNet
the problem with socialism is that your neighbor will eventually run out of money!!!!!
that 'food for thought' is more like anthrax or poison
zmc33 11 months ago
@zmc33 I take your point...but I do not mean SOCIALISM in the modern sense. I am talking about social values. the basics of human society. Think about it this way, SOCIALISM, COMMUNISM, CAPITALISM, none on their own work. I would like to explain further, but this is an inadequate place. (the comments i mean)
ArchytypeNet 10 months ago
@ArchytypeNet
freedom and independence for the individual..something that has fallen by the wayside in the modern world. we are all classified into groups nowadays....
i think we should care for the sick and poor, but i also feel that government should not force that upon the people.
freedom is NOT about privatizing gains and socializing losses. our govt has turned soft-fascist.
peace
zmc33 10 months ago
this is fucking stupid god isnt real fuck you all
sgtsnakeeyes11 2 years ago 2
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Stmarcus1 2 years ago
@Stmarcus1
did you just say that 'this is why we didnt want you here in Europe to start with'?
i seem to remember a war where europe really really really wanted to maintain control of America...
but you lost.
but we still have a European style central banking system and the world is farrr worse off because of it...
zmc33 11 months ago
Fresco don't encourage, the "cheep Implant" the government does.
Fresco opposes the idea of government control, and government encourages the idea of government control.
If you heart don't work you prob want a new one instead of the alternate death option, so as humans progress many more pieces will be available.
You can't say be conservative with technology and then make a call on your cellphone as that is super human ability of communicating with someone at a large distance.
Ramiromasters 2 years ago
Fav'd, your not wrong in your observations of symbolism and similarities with other works - however when one understands what Krishnamurti promoted in many of his discussions; self inquiry is not what the agenda being played out encourages...
Regardless of his upbringing the thoughts he shared were in no way designed to constrain but rather free us.
Tactums 2 years ago
Lucifer was called the son of the morning star, he was also called the morning star. And you know what? Christ also called himself the morning star. Think that.
FullMetalMullet 2 years ago
Lucifer is called son of the morning. That vs. (Isaiah 14:12) is about how he fell from God's glory and grace. English is a sorry translation of the Bible. In the words of my Savior 29Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.
culturedgraffiti 2 years ago
Venus is a place in Florida where Jacques Fresco works on Venus project. It is not a Lucifer haha. Relax paranoid christian:)
oshtraMandala 2 years ago
Zeitgeist lead the Venus Project
Venus Project = New World Order
Zeitgeist also wash European folks brain to join Islam, Canada and England wll soon became Islamic Country~~~
fightforfair 2 years ago
What are you talking about, lmao. Say something meaningful or GTFO.
Youanden 2 years ago
zeitgeist just made a 2nd video talkin bout sum venus project
alibangsmooth 2 years ago
Biased dogmatic garbage.
ZeitgeistDebunked = Religious Propaganda
COMPLETE GARBAGE
NihilistChrist 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
wonkamaster101 2 years ago
Zeitgeist is NWO Propaganda and anybody with logic can see it...
philbox17 2 years ago
lol, I assume you can provide proof?
Youanden 2 years ago
Hmm.
Proving that the Venus Project is the same as communism is nearly the same as proving it to be the same as the NWO.
Really it accomplishes nothing.
I don't doubt he might have gotten some inspiration from these ideas, infact doing so would be ideal. No use reinventing the wheel everytime. Though you will probably use the 'but it never worked' arguement there.
Sigh. Arguing on the internet is stupid so I am not going to bother anymore.
TheRealBeefStake 2 years ago
save myself 2 hours by reading a 707 page book? anyways, lets go ask a person who can see or hear or walk again what they think of man mixing with technology. man you are stupid, but lets continue. bah if it's not new atlantis, then it's new rome or new isreal or new zion etc etc whatever bro...not watching part 2 you are wasting my time. basically you are saying if the venus project never happens the NWO will have failed? is this a troll video? it's so badly done i think i'm being trolled here
rikk06 2 years ago 15
@rikk06 ha ha, go ahead mix yourself with machine and genetic engineering. Become the borg from startrek, that's your choice. Enjoy your microchip.
aciddmc 1 year ago
you just debuinked yourself with some middle eastern fairy tale crap about angels and heaven.. please bro you almost lost me. did satan come before hand and name venus florida too? i hate dumb asses who say it's communism. you're really showing your intellectual limitations and lack of research on the venus project here man. circular cities are more efficient, men guide technology and it serves men, you've been watching too much i-robot and terminator i think...
rikk06 2 years ago 7
@rikk06 condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance .. why dont you all go research this instead of just coming out with uneducated comments about this.. The venus project is just a deception to capture the weak minded like yous all here..& the NWO is not a thing. Its just a fucking idea... ffs, do you idiots know anything away from stupid ass jew-tube..
illuminatisos 5 months ago
@illuminatisos well i'll tell you i'm well read in a variety of religions and philosophies, aswell as several different christian faiths etc. so don't worry, i'm not ignorant. secondly i'll tell you that you're right the NWO is just an idea, because the same men running the world into the ground now will just go turn-coat and re-emerge as the new world government. a government that will set straight "the system." kind of like infecting someone with an illness and then selling them the cure...
rikk06 5 months ago
@rikk06 you have been brainwashed by the new age atheistic propaganda. i feel sorry for you
parkourip 5 months ago
lies.
Shawee00 2 years ago
HAHA fucking left propaganda!
TRUEdemiurg 2 years ago
About the bible as a source, usually people will want to debate me like "I can disprove everything in that movie.................. The bible even says" and then I am disappointed for wasting my time. I wont debate any "religious" person because they have no logical grounds due to their source.
kikrlbs 2 years ago
OH! I must apologize then I only went back to the comments on the first page. Sometimes its hard to tell who's debating what without seeing the first "sword drawn" if you will. In that case we are on complete agreement and I am also part of the movement. Michigan chapter meeting August 16th at noon.
kikrlbs 2 years ago
I am busy with work and school, but I would be delighted to have a logical debate with you on this issue. You, unfortunately however cannot use the bible as a source because you cannot use the basis of the argument as a source. i.e. World Banks says poverty is decreasing. I do forget the fallacy which this falls under so I'll have to get out my logic book again.
kikrlbs 2 years ago
Voiceofreason467 I would like to know how you checked everything out because I have read modern money mechanics and it is true essentially. I think the film could have explained it better, but considering the lack of education the masses have, it needs to be put in lamens terms for better understanding. It is no coincidence the money supply goes up, the dollar goes down and there is massive layoofs combined with increased poverty. There needs to be a solution, and this is a good start.
kikrlbs 2 years ago
HAHAHAHHA! Okay, I've heard some crazy things like that TVP would be a communist society, but socialist? You've got to be kidding me.
Whopzer 2 years ago
lol this video sucks
MrCombine 2 years ago 2
Venus = Lucifer?
Venus = the city in Florida where the project is stationed...
Lucifer = ancient superstitions.
:)
JoshuaStodart 2 years ago
yeah! another superthinking! +) u msut know more bout zeitgeistmovement to speak that way!
CALMSH1T 2 years ago
if there is any NWO propaganda that would be alex jones
DarthHuru 2 years ago
But just because they misrepresent some information you can't conclude that everything they say is false or you'd be committing a fallacy.
goldragon988 2 years ago
Then tell me why the notion of a conspiracy is so laughable. Also tell me if you're religious.
goldragon988 2 years ago
I don't understand how this debunks the movie. Where are the links to Jacque's quotes about microchipping or merging with machines? And whatever is wrong with the government that is portrayed in the movie?
goldragon988 2 years ago
Amazing to see so many people trying to defend something they have not researched
If someone tells you something
Say 'your grandfather was born (or not) in say..iceland'
You would ask 'Ok I dont think so he was american thru and thru but maybe your right it was a long time ago'
The next logical step is to ask 'where did you get this information from'
This is what all supporters of zeitgeist fail to do
Amazing!
People,its meant to be appealing&attractive like soviet prop. films
ReadQuigley 2 years ago
We have all lost our origin. The struggle for power and control has deluded us for what we really are. I wish you all good karma.
joelwrussell 2 years ago
I don't see how this video is refuting anything. All these ideas so ideal it's beautiful.
However, the cyborg stuff that this video is talking about is a ridiculous misconception of the Fresco's idea. You can see that in his quote; modified species does not mean cyborg.
blindside55 2 years ago 3
The Venus project was founded in Venus, Florida... The city Venus. I'm don't think that it has anything to do with Lucifer. and I have to agree with Zeitgeist and I guess Blavatsky when they say "resources belong to no nation but should be shared by all" or "All resources are the natural inheritance to all the worlds people" That is the way it should be when we have abundance... why should 1% of the population have half the worlds wealth?? Just my opinion.
zwest135 2 years ago
That is what's called socialism. Who will enforce the sharing? Socialism is fraternization enforced by the barrel of the gun.
fishslab 2 years ago 2
no religious minded people have a faith and belief structure.they feel comfortable and safe with it.if a gov says its following said religion then those types of people will back the gov to continue the feelings of familiarity and safety. hence the establishments involved in the gov influences the masses. your defending a religion and all those in it. this includes the establishments that claim association with religion.pleas open your mind to the ideas in zeitgeist & try to be civil next time
roughntumble357 2 years ago
If you have a problem with religious people just citing religious text or information;
Then by all means check the references for part 1 of Z.1.
The sources come from guess what ....religious sources.
Gerald Massey -Druid (possible Freemason)
Madamme Blavatsky - Theosophists
Alice Baily - Theosophist
Albert Pike (high ranking freemason)
These are all religious or 'spiritual' in nature. So why trust these admitted luciferians from the 1800s when they talk about the historical Jesus?
ReadQuigley 2 years ago
this is just more propaganda trying to sell religious minded people the idea that solid governing needs to be based on or with religion. its call separation of religion and state and its there for a good reason.
roughntumble357 2 years ago
youre new name shall be idiotus maximus for such an idiotic comment. okay listen idiotus religious minded people are the people that fight authority and nations for they are the ones oppressed the most. also idiotus religion and state are seperated for a reason so that the good nature of god wouldnt have power over nations but the laws of men and the laws of those who want to control remove all governments ,religions and currencies to make 1 world government world religion and 1 world currency
ismetymeri 2 years ago
i love freedom thats why i hate capitalism its a bs system to keep us going in circles chasing worthless paper. i am in no way communist your a bullshitter
verdantforce88 2 years ago
This video proves NOTHING.
I can be a devil worshiper an cure AIDs at the same time. That does not mean solving Aids was a bad thing. Im not religious. So linking GOOD ideas to unholy people means nothing to me.
Also, zeitgeist does not push for socialism. If you watch it at all you know that it is against ALL FORMS OF MONITARY SYSTEMS.
JeremyGViking 2 years ago
youre name shall be moranis for the moronic comment. the video of zeitgeist adds truths with poison such as is used against rats 98% substance and 2% poison like flouride. by adding 98% truth and lies about religion. people who are moronic such as youre self. will believe that since the other parts are true the other part must be true as well. connecting dots is true research and the most wisest way to find truths.
ismetymeri 2 years ago
There is a difference between socialism and fascism. Fascism is where the US is heading, ' the fusion of government and private big business' as defined by Mussolini. The socialisation of debt to be paid by ordinary citizen (tax) to pay for the fraud of the rich.
farliecharlie 2 years ago
your video here is just another propaganda :)
crackz123 2 years ago 21
Exactly
S1L3nCe 2 years ago 3
follower
ismetymeri 2 years ago
fool
ismetymeri 2 years ago
retard :)
S1L3nCe 2 years ago
Visit Hal Lindsey's or Jack Van Impe's web-sites. They BOTH tie all of today's current events to Biblical Prophecy. ESPECIALLY Hal Lindsey. There is no doubt that we are living in the end of days just as prophecied in the Holy Bible. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord TODAY. It is your free will to do so, and remember that God was WARNED man, and he did it with the greatest way, without presenting himself materially.......through PROPHECY. God is great!!!! You have been warned
elchingonaso76 2 years ago
shut up dumbass
you have idea what your talking about
wagggggg 2 years ago
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elchingonaso76 2 years ago
Now you can stop viewing this video when it says stupid things like "freedom loving americans", that's actually an attack to our intelligence... LOL , i had to admit, that did make me laugh a while.
gordilloedwin 2 years ago
i watched that movies, the obvious attempt at brainwashing(rinse and repeat) by saying the same thing over and over the first 30 minutes was both boring and nauseating to say the least.. but sadly very effective judging by the cheering comments left by other veiwers. theyre failing to ask important questions, they were all for this deception and its flawed design.
displaced36 2 years ago
when I first saw addendum I was shocked. This film is full of lies (specially about religion) I'm not saying religion is today anything more that form of control but this film is a bullcrap for anybody who knows anything about ancient religions. And the part abt society... This is EXACTLY what New World Order is about. Technology at the center and humans "reprogrammed".
GompCelticPL 2 years ago
You mean the FED is actually part of the US? and they stand for freedom? and that there are countries? LOL
gordilloedwin 2 years ago
FED is a private corporation. I was talking about alternative that Zeitgeist offers. 'Zeitgeist Utopia' and NWO's plan for the world are actually about the same thing but PJ says oh it's not that bad cuz there's no good and evil (bs) so if there's no evil, there are no evil ppl so it'll be ok.
GompCelticPL 2 years ago
I dont care what the zeitgeist is, but to my close inspection is not part of the NWO, or whatever that is. I really think that NWO is an empty distinction, for it's use to hold people against any change proposed, for now anything is NWO, capitalism is NWO, communism is NWO, facism is NWO, freedom is NWO, slaves are NWO god is NWO, evil is NWO, utopia is NWO, non-utopia is NWO ... hell, i think even my dog is part of the NWO!! WTF!!?
gordilloedwin 2 years ago
I'm not saying that Zeitgeist is a part of NWO, I'm saying it's about the same thing. It's not an alternative cuz instead of Henry Kissinger you'd have PJ doing the same things. WTF? Good question :P NWO is a plan to bring total control over population through politics, religions, cult, gov's, media etc.Don't tell me ur dog is nwo cuz on national tv they said that we'll be microchipped before 2016 and most likely in 2010! Watch Obama Deception it's good if you dunno what's NWO.
GompCelticPL 2 years ago
I can't recall Kissinger calling to abolish money? can you point me to the right address, and sorry i dont watch TV but i do know the microchips and i know is real
So is zeitgeist NWO or not? for if is not we have a real chance to free ourselves.
Obama is a politician and politicians are useless. So let's forget about Obama and start working before the real NWO falls upon us.
gordilloedwin 2 years ago
just click at my nick, there's a link. cheers.
GompCelticPL 2 years ago
What's the problem with Lucifer? I never read anyting bad about him in the Bible; just that he 'is bad,' wherease I read in the Bible a lot of horrifying, horrible things about genocidal, infanticidal, vengerful, jealous YHWH.
You either want the world to remain exactly as it is forever with all it's problems, or you want a new world order, do you not? Not everyone who uses that phrase wants the same thing. They just each want the world to be ordered in a different way from the current way.
brindlebriar 2 years ago
NEED THIS TRANSLATED TO SPANISH
in all latinamerica zeitgeist are shows for masses
lots of people are believing this TRASH
and yes venus proyect is POISONUTOPIA
cublop 2 years ago
Bullshit you freaking idiot! people in latinAmerica are as brainwashed as you are, Z is freedom!! Que dices que nuestros sistemas monetarios no funcionan asi? pobre pendejo que ni para ver las paginas de su propio arrendador de dinero tiene.
gordilloedwin 2 years ago
i think theres Not much time of this world
something gonna happen ... a Legion of brainwashed people are prepared for Antichrist army against Church
just years to see this
cublop 2 years ago
Yeah, am the first one to beat the fuckers christians faith keepers... they killed millions of aztecs when they found that Quetzalcoatl was announced to his virgin mother chimalma, was a teacher with 3 disciples died and resurrected on the Gulf of Mexico! ... So yes, I care about my people so fuck them, and just so you know, here in Mexico, banxico is dirving us to our death!
gordilloedwin 2 years ago
no it translates to the light, and anyway the Bible cales satan lucifer
frasernater13 2 years ago
Who ever made this vid is scared of people who think for themselves
sillymonkey8888 2 years ago
Because you left that comment, you are scared of people who think for themselves.
Just because someone is trying to persuade you with their opinion doesn't mean they don't want you to think for yourself, they are simply practicing their free speech in the same way you are with your comment.
mymind1086 2 years ago
I am scared of big mouth scare mongerers winning over the minds of people.
In the words of Spinoza 'free to think what you like and say what you think', I believe is good.
But words can have great impact on the minds of the mass's. In war the first thing to attack is communication.
sillymonkey8888 2 years ago
I was shown Part 3 of Zeitgeist about three years ago. Little did I know, I bought it. I couldn't believe I fell for it, but looking back, they said the sinking of the LUSITANIA led the US to enter World War I, not the discovery of the Zimmermann Note.
Looking at the film as a whole, I wonder if Peter Joseph (if that's his real name) is a Communist, or at least a Socialist.
DLAbaoaqu 2 years ago
His real name is James Coyman, maybe he is a Zionist, the same who own the Federal reserve, media and just about everything else.
OhYesWeCannabis 2 years ago
whoever made this video clearly did not understand what zeitgeist was about...
arknihil 2 years ago 3
If satanists believe money corrupts people and should be abolished and there should be freedom equity and tolerance then amybe their not that bad lulz.
generaldesor 2 years ago
What they say in zeitgeist is true but their solutions are bullshit. think about it, people that knoiw whats going on DONT join the millitary.
zachypoop 2 years ago
Did you honestly just say that we could save 2 hours from watching zeitgeist by reading a book? I think the point of the zeitgeist films is that the information is condensed to give you a taste of many things that you can then go out and further investigate on your own if you choose.
tyliggity 2 years ago
It doesn't say micro chips but read revelation 13 specifically versus 11-18, its the same idea, maybe has been translated incorrectly, or maybe when it was written that was the only way to explain a micro chip to those who would have had no idea about modern technology
darklink469 3 years ago
WHAT CRAP ...
If anything is the product of the new world order it's this crapy propaganda piece.
It even copies the tone of "Zeitgeist" so the viewer is thrown off balance. If this were real information we would know it.
Whoever put this together did so to muddy the water. It's one of their main tactics. When a message is becoming part of the main stream and it goes against their agenda ...
They copy it and twist it .... this presentation is CRAP.
atomic57 3 years ago
a perfect society cannot exist with imperfect beings. You dont even have to look at zeitgeist from a religious perspective. A utopia cannot exist on earth with human begins. Zeitgeist ONLY accepts the BF Skinner perspective of human behavior. While some of it is true. There are plenty of NATURAL development involved that the movie overlooks. just stop taking it in as gospel and look at the information from many perspectives.
d2eux 3 years ago
it's not a perfect presentation, but it has a point... there are many new world order influences in zeitgeist... check their sources
lindisposto 3 years ago
thats the point
Idiggs102 3 years ago
We live on this earh and have no problem flumming smoke in the air doing nuclear testing and a few of you are gonna say misuse of this beautiful world weve been lucky enough to walk upon is better than using the knowledge weve gained through the years to work with it we have a beautiful gift we must work with and embrace
Idiggs102 3 years ago
in other words.....i have a feeling that the material you are trying to propagate has more to do with lack of information, an overly inflated ego and a need to be noticed!!! CAN IT FOOL....WE DONT NEED IT.....WHAT WE NEED IS YOU.....WITH AN OPEN MIND....UNAFRAID OF A RADICAL WHOLISTIC CHANGE......NOT TO THE WORLD.....BUT TO ITSELF!
miazillaluddin 3 years ago
man.....i think you dont have a clue...what ur talking about here......all these big words my friend have good implications on individual lives like urs and mine....these big words like communism capitalism fascism budhism or fucking age old democracy or diplomatism............i dont think you have experienced a quater of those implications!!
miazillaluddin 3 years ago
ok!! how does the venus project find its grounding in the organized occult? what it talks about...as in its purpose applies to all the people who inhabit the particular city at a given time> how is it socialist/communist/marxist to liberate people from bondage of the enslavement of employment.............how is it occult to put the art sciene and technology centers bang in the center of an inhabbited space...open for all to use...................
miazillaluddin 3 years ago
I'm with coldvice1, what actually you this guys tries to say is that a new world order is not a good a idea at all, because is forged will be the same as now. Ok, now tell me wouldn't be better than the actual, corrupted, polluted, one? Why I really understand out of zeitgeist (the movie & addendum) is the fact that people should be educated so they can make their own conclusions and express by themselves. So by itself any difference we made between all of us, will be no more.
y0ux 3 years ago
''Ok, now tell me wouldn't be better than the actual, corrupted, polluted, one''?
No, because now we have the safe guard of mutual destruction. The USA cant go on global conquests because it has the threat of other nations (and vice versa). A one world government would stand un apposed and un questionable, which historically is a very bad thing.
Who could possibly stand up to president of the world? With litterally 10times the power of Obama? I mean you are asking for enslavement.
scotsocool 3 years ago
Zeitgeist Addendum is not Marxism.
What a joke.
brentoneccles 3 years ago 4
this movie is such a fars, pathetic...
thou im supprised that there are now radical Alex Jones supporters
tazmaniainc 3 years ago 5
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I'm begining to think this whole New World Order conspiracy theory is propoganda using fear for people to lose hope in any kind of hope for the world. It tells you to prepare instead of to change. What a giant load of BULLSHIT! If you look for satanic symbols in thing's, you'll find it. People like this piss me off. Holy shit people, theyre trying to overcomplicate things. Remember, if its a simple answer, its usually the right answer.
ledz2032 3 years ago
That what u said is so REAL!! if its a simple answer... in most cases is the right answer! you get that by studying math, usually math is so easy if you think like that and is my belief it applies to many things.
gordilloedwin 2 years ago
since "masonic" states born in French revolution it begain to globalization ... in simple worlds control of world masses by media, "intelectuals", new spiritual freedom against Christian Jewish GOD...
Marx was like a prophet of communism
and no one talks about MILLONS AND MILLONS of deads on Russia on China etc
cublop 2 years ago
Marx wrote the manifest of the communist PARTY, now widely believe communism... and i have not read a manifest which claims everyone must have the exact same thing, you proly need to read it. yet i dont think communism will ever work for it needs open minded people to support it.
Now claiming China and Russia were communist states is like claiming that there is democracy and freedom in the States, and that the US has never killed any innocent child.
gordilloedwin 2 years ago
im saying that false doctrines who see religion like only a superstition and believers like mindless people ... communism and nazys they just KIll "all useless people" and its a new religion based on "science" and reason"???communism its FAKE and doesnt work outside theories.
im not saying that i love globalization nwo
cublop 2 years ago
Look i agree communism is a real utopia, however capitalism has the exact same working mecanism, for remember that there are thousands who died every month of poverty. Is just that they have masked it much better, So really capitalism, the never attempted communism , socialism, facism and all others social structures have failed, So why wouldn't we try something different.
Electronics have only logic instructions so don't worry, they wont take over the world but can help us if use towards good
gordilloedwin 2 years ago
this is the same absolutism ...
to reject others beliefs and without real base or dialogue is violence... zeitgeist is a brainwash for those without any knolledge on Religion
is the same f gnostics heresy of the firts christians
cublop 2 years ago
couldnt they do that without trying to abolish or replace religion?
displaced36 2 years ago
i know an obvious response is 'but religion seperates us.. i get along fine with people of other religions and athiests as well.. im christian, and my fiance is pagan. so yeah differences do cause minor problems, that can sometimes lead to big problems.. so how do they get rid of other differences? race, language, personalities, sexuality, etc. all of these differences inspire things that can become negative and harmful
displaced36 2 years ago
getting rid of responsibility wont make things better, only way this could logically succeed is if free will does not exsist. otherwise, lust, boredom, satire, anger, depression, fear etc will still take its toll on humanity... money and religion are not to blame. its human nature.
displaced36 2 years ago
so we must blame the iraqui people for havin' more oil than they need! that's human nature?
gordilloedwin 2 years ago
how did you get that from what i said? i never gave an indication that i support the war in iraq at all. i was saying pence is a good thing, but it has been misused, christianity is a good thing, and it has also been misused. i said this system they talk about in zeitgeist will not solve your problems. you yourself know that you can not blame your own shortcomings on religion and money and being needy. its a lie and an illusion, luciferian garbage.
displaced36 2 years ago
I got that by association and I really don't remember i said an offense to you so basically am sorry if you found what I said offensive but I put a lot of time into research, so guess what, since Jesus does not exist, lucifer does not either.
gordilloedwin 2 years ago
by association? what am i, a politician? i dont benifit from war, i suffer from war, all people do. and im sure you did research, but you researched lies. i have never found a criedible source that denies jesus ever exsisted, i was an athiest for most of my life. but i was atleast honest with myself, and did not take one source with no credible evidence as a proof even tho it would have backed up what i wanted to believe. such as the ones in zeitgeist.
displaced36 2 years ago
using luciferian doctrines to show proof of luciferian doctrines is not a credible example, that is bad research and many of the lies in zeitgeist are from luciferian doctrines, they have an agenda. but no evidence.
displaced36 2 years ago
You just have to dig much deeper than that my friend. And i think you're having such a hard time understanding this: "If jesus, or god for that matter, does not exist, it also renders the devil, or lucifer if you will, void" That is very simple to understand, however i've noticed some people lack that notion because religion gets too much in the way or as i say, common sense may not be so common.
Best Regards!
gordilloedwin 2 years ago
... Here we go i hope you pay close attention to what I say ok? You said it was human nature to have rich and poor, wealth and slavery, yes or no? OK, so Iraq had those resources and another country, let's say the US went to invade Irak bc of the oil, you get what am saying?
gordilloedwin 2 years ago
so why can this system not work without abolishing christianity? how would that be essential? will people not be aloud to believe what they choose to believe? that should be a red flag to you, especially if you ever read the book of revelations
displaced36 2 years ago
1st question: The system would not work without aboloshing not only Christianity but all religious superstitions because they are thousand year old books that draw on absolutly no evidence and promote war, violence and discrimination. Second question (third really, since your second question just restated the first.) You can believe whatever the fuck you want to believe, but I strongly urge you not believe things based on fear and heresy. Take the book of revelations and stick it up your ass.
ledz2032 2 years ago
If you ask me, it's bad either way you go. Let's say that all of a sudden the people of the United States would take over the government. Then they'd be in power, and, as Alex Jones himself states, power corrupts and ultimate power corrupts ultimately. I don't think it matters who is in control, they will be just as corrupt all the time.
Paddis92 3 years ago
who knows, the people have never had power to rule themselves, that would ultimately be a form of anarchy
dadada72 3 years ago
I don't know about you, but I have rule myself. The point I'm trying to make is that no matter what kind of society you live in, either communist or capitalist, there is always going to be someone who want's to be somehow superior to others. This is rather natural in capitalism and is also the reason why communism never works in the end.
Paddis92 3 years ago
Your rule is an illusion. It's why companies like GE have more "power" than many countries, it is natural but not exactly ethical.
dadada72 3 years ago
Perhaps I can invite you to become one of the very low income people in Mexico who lives under 2 dollars a day... and you'll see "natural but no ethical" in a very different way ;)
gordilloedwin 2 years ago
actually i visited san cristobal de las casas in chiapas last week, it was a very eye opening in terms of wealth and what you choose to call wealth and power, thanks for the invite buddy but it seems i beat u to it!
dadada72 2 years ago
Oh yeah! we're about to become first world! Let me know when you understand what I said...
gordilloedwin 2 years ago
brother dont let the anger blind u, practice what u preach and stop considering money the same as wealth...
dadada72 2 years ago