Official Bugera Magician Demo - Full Demo of Amp - Winter NAMM 2011 '11

[TheGoliathsound]

I love how articulate the descriptions were. That amp is definitely something interesting and worth acquiring, one day.

ePeace

[sosmooth7]

It is now 2012 and this amp still is not available!!! What's up???

[lilgoten808]

Cheap Chinese mesa mark iv.

[sig2noize]

Can't seem to find infinium anything anywhere. release date?

[bassgrooves2]

replace valve when lit.....

[ErsiNur1]

Does anyone know how much this will cos?



[Bflatest]

@ErsiNur1 I hear it is under 1k

[TheFunnyzach]

is somebody vacuuming?

[Oh3AreSicks]

@TheFunnyzach Vacuum tubes.

[p4tr1ckn4v0]

@TheFunnyzach

Yeah the amp is ;)

[xom400]

please do a shoot out between tri-rec vs the daul rectifer vs the peavey vypyr 120 head on the rec setting?

[gwugluud]

I LOVE IT!!! the advertisement plays NO PROBLEM, but THE VIDEO WON'T LOAD! Oh, but the ad, no problem!! I LOVE IT !!

[ronoc931]

i dont know about you guys for me im very happy with my mesa dual rec bugera to me is shit hands down mesa engennering all american and marshall amps all british is the way to go

[StringSlinger26]

@ronoc931 I agree with you all the way! I have tried out 2 bugera amps and they fall sucked. My drummer owns a studio. I took both bugera amps (1990, and 333x1) and played them on a marshall v-30 cab. In a studio with QRD's and bass traps, all ambient sound is killed, and any stray vibrations are killed. You get purely the tone of the amp. Both amps sounded weak and thin compared to the MESA Nomad and Dual Rec in the studio. Also they had a hard time matching the power output. Get what u pay 4

[ronoc931]

i dont know about you guys for me im very happy with my mesa dual rec

[vintageleon76]

I hope to try one out. I have owned dual and triple rec mesa boogies, they are built solid and for the road. These bugera amps look like they could break easily. I will buy one and try it out when the hype goes down. I saw a Mesa dual rec at Guitar center for 899 Used heck of a deal. Keep in mind you can spend a little more and get a mesa amp. Does any one know how much these will sell for? The tri rec one that is..

[ManofWar55]

@vintageleon76. The Trirec is $800 new and the magician is $700 new.

[frogjim]

low paid labor......NON american produced.....but they CANT WAIT to take our american dollars out of the country. I dont like it. But a Mesa or Krank. enough said. Is that a kreaking vacuum cleaner in the background?? For this official release video?.....that should TELL you something about the company!!! Wake up people!

[234167]

@frogjim dude,shut the fuck up.go troll somewhere else

[ronoc931]

@frogjim fuck ya bud my dual rec rocks not a fan of krank though this is like a copy cat amp in my opinion you can tell

[VanHeezey]

@frogjim This is the TONE KING'S video. Not Bugera's. Bugera official videos are pretty dope. Search a little and stop making assumptions.

[frogjim]

low paid labor......NON american produced.....but they CANT WAIT to take our american dollars out of the country. I dont like it.  But a Mesa or Krank. enough said.

[quinnmyster]

Man... I am gunna BREAK that damn vacuum!!!

[davidrg1550]

this is just a cheap MKIV, it cant compare with the real deal, Mesa designed this layout in 1989..

these guys have just cheapened a classic amplifier. the guys are smart in that they haven infringed any Mesa technology but we all know that this amp is a cheap imitator of the real deal.

Good on them for having the balls to do it though!

[VHTLtdDimarzio]

A vacuum isnt the same as a vacuum tube.

[kGmusicpage]

I swear to god u never do a sound check with anything but the neck pickup. Kinda annoying because chords on the neck pickup through a tube amp are muddy as crap

[amithabajan2]

@JVM410ftw no shit, a £500 amp vs a £2500 amp. Guess who sounds better.

[stormbringer76]

stick to Marshall.......

[CoolKabbage]

@stormbringer76 Marshall MG's are terrible, also overpriced along with the rest of them. So, no.

[siamesemojo]

Oh excellent! I was looking for one of these which shows the variable power :)

[holmes1978]

Thanks Mr. Tone King

[millavanhalen]

If you actually believe that a Mesa Mark V only sounds a little better than this... good for you! Being tone deaf is a blessing to your wallet. As for me, I don't think I'll be sellin my MK V to buy one of these to save some money. By the way, MK Vs still sell for about new price for a used one on ebay. See if you can get your money back when you need to sell one of these!

[DavidRayT]

It's a Bugera Mark series clone, where's the Dream Theater, BTBAM, and Lamb Of God riffage?!

[Lgw1984]

@DavidRayT

If you watch Lamb of god recording videos, you'll see they use Rectos, Soldanos, Orange and other amps too... So the Lamb of God sound is not just a Mark amp.

[DavidRayT]

@Lgw1984 I'm aware, but they DO use them. Along with Dream Theater, BTBAM, Coheed & Cambria.

[Lgw1984]

@DavidRayT They use them along with a $50,000 worth rack.

[DavidRayT]

@Lgw1984 Yeah, but my point was, why isn't he playing any metal?

[ENGL555]

anyone else wanna hit yourself with a tack hammer after watching this painful video,,homo genius

[pastorkev777]

I pray that they make a head version of this and a 2x12 and 4x12 with thes NEO speakers. I know this will rock same with the Tri-rec. -PK

[ikilledsifodyas]

I found the sound of the vacuum cleaner in the background at the beginning of the video to be much more appealing. ;)

[normalanne]

by the end of the video all the infinium lights are lit up - did it fry the tubes in just 10 minutes?

[raclarkus]

Wow, tons of features: 3 ch, auto-biasing, effects loop send/ return levels, midi, power scaling, power tube life extension.

Gain goes higher than vintage amps, but doesn't sound raspy. Some amp designs include a bridge circuit to increase sustain and compression, but that clips the wave so hard that it can become square. I don't hear that in this amp.

Bugera is really giving their competitors a run for the money.

[SonicProvocateur]

@raclarkus Sorry, but every demo of this sounds like a fuzz box, not the liquid lead Mesa tone it's trying to clone. And the "tube life" lights are all lit up. Bugera -definitely- isn't giving Mesa a run for it's money.

[puppetmaster532]

WILL SOMEONE TRUN OFF THAT FUCKING VACCUME!!!

[Maxx61]

...to continue, nobody is claiming this is better than a Mesa. What some of us are saying is the amp provides decent tones for a pittance of the cost. Most people standing in front of you at a gig aren't going to walk out because the guitarist is playing a Magician instead of a Mark IV. Bugera proves paying a lot less scratch to get a little less amp ain't such a bad deal in these economic times. People with plenty of money aren't cross shopping Bugeras and Boogies.

[Maxx61]

Most Bugera haters hate the amps because they sound pretty damn good. If they sounded horrible, nobody would care what they looked like or who they copied. The smart fella is one who spends 20% of the scratch to get 90% of the tone. Blindfold the cork sniffers and most of 'em couldn't tell the difference between Bugera's version of the 5150 and the original. Bet on it.

[rocknroll9225]

@Maxx61 if you want to spend $400 on this and try to convince yourself that you just bought a mark iv (equivalent), go right on ahead. but you even said, "90% of the tone". i cant stand listening to bugera supporters claim their amps are better because they paid less for it, acting like they know something the rest of us dont. and just going off this video, this amp sounds like shit. ill admit that i cant make a decision based off a crappy quality youtube video, but it doesnt sound promising.

[Maxx61]

@rocknroll9225 You missed my point. Would you bet your life in a blindfold test as to your ability to know which was the Bugera and which was the Boogie? What's funny is few guitarists would. Peavey already embarrassed industry executives when they a'b'd a Windsor head versus a classic Marshall and damn near half polled thought the best sound was coming from the amp they thought was the Marshall...right up until Peavey took the cover off it to reveal the Windsor. Funny video.

[elvezrulz]

@Maxx61

You obviously aren't savvy enough to realize what the purpose of that test was. It WASN"T to see which one sounded BETTER, it was to point out that the crowd couldn't tell which of the heads was the $400 Windsor and which one was the vintage Marshall. Tone is subjective and that's the point. Did you even listen to what the dude said in the A/B test? He said exactly that, and was proven correct by the fact that the crowd couldn't tell which was which. My boss was there!

[Maxx61]

@elvezrulz The inference was clear. They could not tell which one was the Marshall and which one was the Peavey. Knowing that one head was a classic and the other an import, it was obvious by choosing the Marshall...or what they thought was the Marshall, that they were choosing the one they thought was the better of the two. Savvy enough? Thanks for the chuckle. I'm on my fourth decade of playing guitar.

[EeeAreEyeKay]

@Maxx61 you are correct. i love the bugera tone. There are a few things that are keeping me from buying one though. One of the things is the footswitch. I dont like is the 6 prong bugera footswitch. Also a friend of mine has a bugera. The one that is modeled after the 5150. I believe its the 6262. He said that bugera wont get back to him on getting another footswitch. They have shitty customer service..and the other thing is they break down a lot. my instructor use to be a dealer of them.

[mr4y]

@EeeAreEyeKay The 6-prong footswith might be either a 6-prong midi or 6-prong xlr. In the magician case, it looks like a 5-pin xlr cable, which is readily avaliable, since some mics still use it now days. You can also find 6-prong midi cables.

[virgult]

@Maxx61 "The smart fella is one who spends 20% of the scratch to get 90% of the tone..."

...for 10% of the time.

[rocknroll9225]

knock-offs of amps, copying every last detail, even the way the panels are laid out. they even ripped off mesa/boogie's patented simul-class and re-named it "multi-class", then stepped back and went, "look at this fantastic technology we just came up with all by ourselves". and their amazing "infinium" thing isnt that great either. cathode(self)-biasing already exists, as does the LED system, on ENGL amps. the lowest level of hell is reserved for bugera.

[KZ4USA]

Logos on the video make money people.

[thePlunkett]

lol.

REPLACE VALVE WHEN LIT

[they're all lit]

[worldindusa]

poor guy sounds really nervous

[gielepielemans]

Cant wait to try one!!

Good to see you can use el34's in the outtar tube sockets.

[pinordz]

I`ve been happy with my Bugera for 2 years now...Only change the crappy tubes and your good to go.

[kingdarko]

Hey tone king .. can you get rid of your logo off the video it's kinda annoying it's too big and really only needs to be up 5 secs at the start and end.

[scorpguitar79]

I love what Behringer is doing! Sounds like another winner from them.

[luvz2sploogeify]

i hope dingle 1 is at namm and gets to demo this and the trirec

[MattPurkis]

man thats punchy!!! would love one of them to play some screaming blues. that through a 4x12 with that varipower working its magic.

[Zhorellski]

How much is the magician?

[Groovemercenary]

Mesa Boogie probably doesn't have the resources to sue Behringer the way Roland Corp. did when they tried to pull this crap on them. And it's not that I'm hate Behringer because like it or not some of their products have become industry standard, it's that they are taking away from people who create and innovate. Do we really want to see Mesa Boogie out of business?

[MyLifeChanger]

@Groovemercenary Mesa Boogie will not be out of business man, they will always have a niche market for some guitarists! They make wonderful amps no doubt about it. But we should be happy that there will be more competitors out there, that will probably result into better prices on these amps! What do you think?

[MyLifeChanger]

wow, bugera and behringer are getting a lot better and still bringing gear with a good price! it's obvious that people don't like to hear about great gear at decent pricing when they burn off $3000-5000 on a great amp with a famous brand.

the germans know what the hell they are doing! I'm really happy that behringer brings a versatile amp at this price!

I know that I'm going to buy one!

[bikerpastor71]

My respect level has gone up a lot watching this and the trirec amp videos. With german engineering involved now I might have to take a look at these amps. Well done Tone King.

[gacktology]

Sounds really nice Full and creamy

[gacktology]

That Vacuum Cleaner in the Background drives me mad !

[RowenCx4]

auto bias sweet!

[stevietrayvaughn]

I've been wanting to hear this amp since you told us about it. Thank you!!! I want it so bad. Are they selling them in the US yet?

[jAMMAN798]

Well done TTK!  First guy to show the Magician amp. At any point during the interview did you wish to strangle the guy in the background running the vacuum cleaner?

[markymarc180579]

Thanks for all the vids TTLK, I’m eager for more. Have Bugera sorted out the issue of reliability, I had a 333XL which dies within 2 days and got a replacement and that went after a week.

[MyLifeChanger]

i'll buy this amp just because the bugera guy sounded like a real nice guy lol!

[MyLifeChanger]

thanks a lot toneking for sharing this video with us! I know you're not in it for the money! thanks!

[mdskfx]

@MyLifeChanger not n it for the money someone payed big money to get this man out that way so that they could be the first to have this amp n the tri-rec up first O heck yeah he did it for the money i know i would have

[sumopub]

Guys, is this Bugera Magician a clone of the Mesa Mk5 or something else? Thanks for your clarification! Keep up the great work, TTK!

[jacka94]

@sumopub I think its supposed to be the Mark IV copy :D

[ktxdgqtx]

If this is based off of the mesa mark series, can it put out the Mark IV type high gain tones?

[dbenc]

So can the Magician give you bone crushing distortion and is it only in a combo? No head?

[dbenc]

It's like TK can read our minds.. I've be searching YT the last couple of days to hear the Tri-Rec and Magician and sure nuff our boy TK comes through! Get out of my head Tone King!!!

[ESPSROCK]

Bitching \m/

[MrGamingGuitarist]

I'm really excited about this amp! I have been waiting for a demo of the Magician since I first saw it last year on Bugera's website.

[heavymetal1110]

I don't see anyone complaining about the tons of companies that rip off the design of the les paul, explorer, strat etc and sell them for different prices. why should it be different with amps?

They sound good and they are cheap, they are doing a great job, what more can you ask?

[guitarlover80]

I can't wait to plug in and try this monster!!!!!

[Bluesrocknmetal]

Say whatever you want it sounds great now i know what i want for christmas :)

[TiffuZeless]

aaaahh!!

I hate that noise on the back !!!

[tony93666]

wow... Bugera has really stepped it up this time!!! Good for them. They should have a great year.

[ace69er]

VERY nice! I think Bugera has scored a bullseye on this and the Trirec. I've watched both demos and honestly these are the BEST sounding amps Bugera have come up with!

It easily competes with any other brand on the market soundwise.

[littlephil23]

@ace69er "BEST sounding amps Bugera have come up with!"

You mean best sounding amps they've copied from someone else.

[EndHelicopterPilot]

@littlephil23

Marshal JMP = Bassman Clone

Peavey 5150 = Soldano Slo Clone

Mesa Boogei Mark Series = Modded Fender Princeton Reverb

Matchless = Vox Clones

...

the list is endless.

[Acronso]

@EndHelicopterPilot man matchless amps are not vox clones

[littlephil23]

@EndHelicopterPilot Thats 4, and 2 of them are heavily modified, and the other 2 sound very different from the amps they are clones of. Most modern clones are of amps that are no longer available (Plexis, JCM800's), where Bugera is bringing out direct clones of amps that are still in production (except a couple), made with the cheapest labour available, and their trying to pass it off as a whole new product.

[ace69er]

@littlephil23 So whats the problem? Dont LIKE the fact others can have the Mesa tone without paying $5000 for it?

Sounds like sour bum grapes to me !

[buckster7777]

@ace69er haha, i have a difficult time believing that this will have "the mesa tone" onboard. What mesa tone are you referring to "Mark series" tone? Please...

I am sure that it probably sounds good though, I have played a few bugeras and they sounded pretty nice to me.

You sound like a drama queen that is bitter because you cant afford an expensive amp though.

[ace69er]

@buckster7777 Hardly drama queen! I could afford it but i refuse to pay that sort of $!

$5000 is a lot for a circuit board with a few valves plugged into it!

I already own several Bugeras and they have served me well and sound wonderful.

[millavanhalen]

@ace69er I don't think Mesa makes an amp that they charge $5000 for?

[ace69er]

@millavanhalen Yes they do! Its called a Dual Rectifier!

[millavanhalen]

@ace69er You live in a strange part of the world then, in the US a dual rec is $1800 and the most expensive head they make, the Road King is $3500.

[ace69er]

@millavanhalen FUCK the US! It isnt the world ya know!

I live in OZ! Its the ARSE rape capital of the world for us musos! GET with the program, and stop thinking every other country has PARITY pricing with the US!

They dont! Everything here is 2.5-5X the price of anywhere else!

So a NEW Recto or Mark is easily around the $5000 mark!

Even the old PV5150 is like $2500 s/h!

TRY comparing prices in various countries like I have b4 you shoot ya keyboard off!

[millavanhalen]

@ace69er sounds like someone needs their diaper changed! If you don't like your countries policies, MOVE! I don't need to compare prices in other countries because it doesn't matter to me.

[millavanhalen]

@ace69er Just for fun, I checked the exchange rate for AUS$ vs US$. Right now your currency is above parity with ours so the only reason a Mesa product would cost that much there is a MASSIVE tariff so that would be your governments fault for the high price. Not mine, or Mesa's!

[ace69er]

@EndHelicopterPilot EXACTLY what I was going to tell him!

He thinks Bugera are the only amp cloner out there!

Ok they might be a tad more 'blatant' about it, But they ARENT identical. They ARE in that style, but they still have their own features.

[yotboy3]

Good call!

[yotboy3]

Good Call!

[weezrock]

@EndHelicopterPilot you've got a point there but in not one of those examples where they trying to make something "budget", well maybe the Peavey... :-) Marshall and Matchless = PTP and high quality parts. I would like Bugera to make a high quality budget amp if possible. I have trouble seeing any current Bugera product go up in value or even being playable after 10 years of use. All of those you mentioned will or have managed that already.

[rocknroll9225]

@EndHelicopterPilot STOP USING THIS ARGUMENT. all the companies u listed took an amp that already existed, and MODIFIED it to make it something else. in that way, jim marshall made the JMP his own, and randall smith made the mark 1 his own. the peavey doesnt sound like an SLO, nor does it look like one. its not pretending to be anything its not. those companies based their amps off of previous designs much like artists strive to be like their influences. bugera, on the other hand, makes cheap

[calibanman]

@EndHelicopterPilot

Ever compared the SLO and the 5150 scheme? Pretty big difference ;).

[EndHelicopterPilot]

@calibanman

Both have almost the same layout and both have this typical mid-growl. The Peavey is'nt a closne, you're right, I exaggerated a bit.

But the idea is that a lot of companies build there amps after other amps. For example, the first Diezel amp's were modded Mashalls. The only difference is that bugera says which amp they modeled.

sorry, my native language is'nt english.

[calibanman]

@EndHelicopterPilot

Neither my native language :) but I do think I know what you mean. There are quite a lot of amps based on the SLO, for instance the boogie rectifier. And in my opinion the electronic difference between a SLO and a recto is much smaller than the difference between a SLO and 5150. (The latter has actually got 6 gain stages in the lead channel, and none of those are cathode-followers)

[Nevigo]

@EndHelicopterPilot

That sounds reasonably close bro.But I think Matchless is an improved AC 30?Great caps,resistors and all that.

[GameLevelEditor]

@EndHelicopterPilot Anyone that knows anything about the history of guitar amplifiers knows most every great amp has been based off a Fender amp circuit tinkering! So true!

[MyLifeChanger]

@littlephil23 seriously man? just give it a rest... it's not like mr randall invented the tube amp or something!

[ace69er]

@littlephil23 And tell me 1 OTHER amp maker that HASNT??

Delusional brand snob!

[Hallman88]

a mark V clone. huh i dont know how that would work out. I think it might be hard to get the tone of any of the mark amps by Mesa out of a affordable Bugera amp.

[guitardbucket]

You've really come through with these Bugera videos Tone King, awesome. Please also check out whatever new modeling gear is there as well.

[Topher19801413]

cloning mesa is great i would like them to clone a peavey XXX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OliOsbourne]

@Topher19801413 I believe they have one called the 333

[ace69er]

@OliOsbourne LOL talk about being 4 years behind!

[themodernguitarist]

Now all they need to do is release a head version... =D

[risingskater]

YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS­SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!

[ArielsSmartyPants]

Wow, great sounding amp with some amazing features. And the TTK signature lick, what could be better? :)

[sjonesm]

Hey TTK, be sure to say hello to my friend Andy James, he's there for ESP guitars!

[armyqpzm]

Looks like a nice amp.

[rockstarbabyeah]

mesa boogie clone?

[ReeceLiamAllsop]

@rockstarbabyeah its a mark 5 i think

[mriceman0619]

@ReeceLiamAllsop ya i think so too but i think that's bugera's thing, they try to emulate other amps and sorta make them theyre own

[ace69er]

@mriceman0619 You mean THEIR! Please learn some grammar!

[mriceman0619]

@ace69er sorry, last time i checked, youtube wasn't an english class.

[ace69er]

@mriceman0619 No but it SHOULD be!

[mriceman0619]

@ace69er no it SHOULDN'T. people dont come to this site to be anooyed by idiots like you who correct their grammatical errors.

[ReeceLiamAllsop]

@mriceman0619 only people that moan about bugera are people that bought the real amps and are annoyed that they spent 3x as much for a amp thats a little better

[littlephil23]

@ReeceLiamAllsop No, they spend 3x as much for an amp that had actual R&D invested in it, from a reputable company, that is reliable and hasn't developed a reputation for blowing up.

[ReeceLiamAllsop]

@littlephil23 calm down sir its not like other companies have done it......... you must own an amp bugera has copied. why moan about bugera ripping off amps thats a great thing. there is more bang fir the buck

[littlephil23]

@ReeceLiamAllsop Yeah, I own a Mark IV. Does that have anything to do with the issues I have with them? Nope. I disagree with their blatant copies of other peoples hard work, that their trying to pass off as their own product.

They're great if you want decent tone from a cheap amp, but they've been known for reliability issues because they don't even try to build a good quality product, they just put it out there as cheap as possible, without proper R&D to make sure the amp will actually last.

[ReeceLiamAllsop]

@littlephil23 like i said only people that have a problem with bugera is the people that bought the real amps....

like what person will go "i hate bugera for making great amps for a reasonable price >:("

[littlephil23]

@ReeceLiamAllsop Like I said, my problems with them have NOTHING to do with the fact that I own one of the amps they've cloned. I've never said I hate them for making decent amps at good prices, but clearly you aren't actually reading what I'm saying, so I'm not going to bother anymore.

[ace69er]

@ReeceLiamAllsop SOME would i'm afraid! You GET these delusional, elitist snobs in our circles! like ' How DARE you get the same great sounding amp as I have, and NOT paid $1000s for it???'

THIS is the mentality we are dealing with!

[GameLevelEditor]

@ace69er I know eh imagine the day when Bugera introduces an amp that sounds as good as the Dumble Overdrive that apparently is a $40,000 amp because someone with creative know how modified a Fender soldered some wires here and there then added some resistors, caps etc and said wow did you here what that did?!?! Were gonna charge $40,000 for that so nobody can afford that tone except John Mayer and Robben Ford and friends! LOL

[Kabump]

@ReeceLiamAllsop You what I think? I think you can shove your stupid dumb ass comment up your ass? Cuz if you maggots compare a cheap bugera crap-amp to a highend amp and dont hear any difference? You should NOT BE INTO music at all.... Are you saying that a bugera lika this one.... sounds as good as a Diezel or any other highend amp? (Diezel is the best amps ever made though)...... You are pathetic.... Go play some mickey mouse videogame and stfu!!

[ReeceLiamAllsop]

@Kabump well sorry but 22 other people agree with me..... and whos gonna pay 4000 more for an amp thats not that much better

[airguitar8]

@Kabump God youre a douche. Your preference of amp shouldnt dictate whether or not you should be "into music." Music is a type of art and is about expression and feeling and being able to make anything you want to with what ever tools you want to use. Besides that, there are tons of other types of music that in no way relate to amplifiers and tone. I think its closed minded fucks like you shouldnt be into music.

[kizmetx]

@ReeceLiamAllsop Actually I dislike Bugera because my 1990 bit the dust a week after I bought it. Broke my heart, that amp really had a killer sound. Returned it and got a road-worthy amp. Never looked back since.

[Ibantar]

@ReeceLiamAllsop I have the V55 and I'm very much satisfied with it. When my wife heard it, she even commented on how warm it sounded. I'm using mine 4 mostly jazz and smooth jazz.

[Ibantar]

@ReeceLiamAllsop I'm very satisfied with my V55 model. My wife even commented how warm it sounded with my Epi 175. I plan 2 purchase the Magician when it's available at my local store.

[JVM410ftw]

@ReeceLiamAllsop a little better?

your perception is skewed.

I have a Mark V that BLOWS this thing out of the water.

Chinese made piece of shit amps can never measure up to american made Mesa ams.

[thomson125]

@rockstarbabyeah Boogie Mark IV clone.

[akaboo69]

@thomson125 sweet i would not mind having this amp right now I use a homemade amp my step bro made it sounds killer but i want to up grade