i'm 44, i went through detox for 6 days, than straight to in patient. i couldn't stop shaking, so they kept me medicated for the 2 months i was there, now i'm drinking again, i don't want to give up on life, i just don't know what to do. the mental rollercoaster was a bitch, but i wish i had given it more time. bobby
@stinkbugist I did AA for a year, but their faith healing wasn't for me. I now do two things: SMART Recovery and meetup.com. Being with others, without the God thing, has worked now for 2 years and 8 months so far. The main thing for me is being around other people who have quit. I stopped thinking it was an incurable disease like AA says, and started seeing drinking as a coping mechanism. I started using SMART Recovery suggestions and found that they work. I don't want to drink any more.
Number 1 Advice. The horrible emotional turmoil and withdrawals are like a roller coast. When you go up you will come back down. You wont always be up. People and especially me have this problem. I always want to drink during my toughest emotional/physical withdrawals. it will go away its not a permanent thing.
aa wants you to believe in jesus and if you dont they follow you around and beat you up and then when you go to the police they lie about beatin you up and pretend to not believe in jesus when they really do and the police wont believe them anyway and will make aa say sorry and go to jail until they are sorry to everyone
The doc had me on Talwin (synthetic morphine), Fentynal Duragesic patches (morphine) and Stadol NS (synthetic morphine).....all at the same time. I was a mess and I will never get into that mess ever again. Beware of Big Pharma..they are legal drug pushers. Thanks manque15
5 years ago I went cold turkey off of morphine that my doc had me on for 4 years. I had no choice because it was killing me slowly and the doc wouldn't help me. OMG!! The withdrawl was horrible...2 weeks of scariest shit that I have ever encountered. But I got through it.
thanks so much for this. i am days away from quitting. its been difficult and i just want it to be out of my life. thanks for a 2 part candid and genuine video. it is encouraging and i am grateful. i'll let you know how i go... xxx
There is not a chance in hell i would give up alcohol. I did stop drinking at one point in my life and i felt powerless...never again. I may suffer from alcoholism (which i am aware) but i will not go through life without a crutch again or some kind of defense...
I hit my rock bottom early last year. I happened on your videos and they struck a note with me. I'm happy to say that I've turned my life around for the better, and I believe listening to your experiences helped me on my way. Thank you.
I went to my first AA meeting tonight. It was a better experience than I expected but there was this old truck driver looking guy who is already in love with me. I hope he doesn't turn into a stalker.
I smoked for 13 years and quit smoking with no problem. Alcohol owns my soul.
I cant walk away. There's no rock bottom for me. And I know what the answer to that will be. "nothing you can tell us that we haven't heard." Bullshit.
People wince and walk away.
Its happened so many times that I know it will again.
im the strongest person i know and the weakest just recently people close to me have told me of the problems with my drinking i am successful and a great dad that was two months ago until i finally started listening to those people now i see i am not awesome as i thought i was still drinking wtf.....
i havnt hit rock bottom, but almost, i cant help this fight any more, i have a great life, loving family, wicked friends and a beautiful daughter who i would give my life for, the sad thing is i am almost giving my life for her, shes six and my rock but whoever wants to judge i still cant kick the alcohol, im eaten uo with remorse and cutting my life short and my girl means the world to me, but this is powerfull the addiction is potent
"As to changing the Steps themselves, or even the text of the AA book, I am assured by many that I could certainly be excommunicated if a word were touched. It is a strange fact of human nature that when a spiritually centered movement starts and finally adopts certain principles, these finally freeze absolutely solid. But what can't be done respecting the steps themselves - or any part of the AA book - I can make a shift by writing these pieces which I hope folks will like."
Hammersley, you make a great deal of this, but it means nothing. Wilson wrote the 12 and 12 and also a small book called "As Bill sees it" Underlying ALL of it is the fact that EVERYTHING is open to ones' interpretation. The steps are simply a guidline to sober living - a happy life without fear, guilt, remorse, resentments, and most of all without ALCOHOL.
Seems like your the one making a "great deal" out of the steps. On one hand you say that "underlying ALL of it is the fact that EVERYTHING is open to ones' interpretation" yet you maintain that that sacrosanct 12 steps are a difinitive "GUIDLINE to sober living - a happy life without fear, guilt, remorse, resentments, and most of all without ALCOHOL". So is there NO substance to the steps? Are they as flexible as you would have me believe? Can I interpret the first step anyway I like?
Certainly you can make your own interpretation. I believe everyone does, at least to some small degree. What does "powerless" mean? This is debated endlessly in discussions, but the bottom line is - do you WANT to stay sober? A common interpretation of step one is: I can't handle this shit any more - my life is fucked up! There are others who want to take the meaning out to another level - make it very spiritual (and complicated) Each to his own - whatever works for YOU is most appropriate.
My point is Tumey, at the end of the day, the steps are so "flexible" (non-definitive) that to say that they are "a" guideline is a nonsense. To speak of "the" 12 Step Program is a misnomer. Thus, "all" AA (or any other 12 step movement) is, is a bunch of human beings getting together and TRYING - in very, very different ways. It is the collegiallity, fraternity, and consequent psychosocial pressure thereof, that is the operative factor in the AA "technique" - nothing more and nothing less.
"guideline" is just another word for "pathway" . To place yourself on a pathway along with others who are seeking the same destination is a good and powerful thing. You learn that there is strength and power in numbers, and begin to trust and accept guidance and direction from others (something that is foreign to most active and newly sober alkies) Within my AA group there is a power greater than myself. This power is very real and has helped keep me sober for many years.
I agree with all that Tumey. That's why I put the quotation marks around "all" when I said "all AA is". The psychosocial pressure and identity transformation of in-group membership is indeed a powerful phenomenon. However, I still believe that there is a lot of magical thinking, mental gymnastics, and word games around "the" steps which, to be quite frank, did not have much thought put into them in the first place. They were a mere rip off and expansion of the Oxford Group directives.
In AA we have a common saying - "don't analyize - utilize". As I said earlier, it's ALL open to interpretation, but there is little to be gained by parsing and dissecting it out with intense critical analysis. If it's not for you - move on. It's not complicated and it does work splendidly for those who are willing to make an honest effort. The stakes are high.
In AA we have a common saying - "don't analyize - utilize".
I've heard this cliché used over and over again in my 13 years of sobriety. The 12 step movement is the ONLY recognised spiritual or psycho-emotional technique in existence that advocates non-reflexivity and non-analysis. Rational examination of the program does not automatically imply inaction - on the contrary. So why the cover up? If anyone actually examines the therapeutic value of "THE PROGRAM", one finds very little.
I'll stand by my comment above. AA is simple, and it has worked for me and millions of other alcoholics. How EXACTLY does it work? I don't care. Notwithstanding all the bullshit on YouTube, the "proof" is self-evident at any AA meeting. People who were formally 3/4 dead from alcohol are now sober, happy,productive and helping others.
Yes, I agree, it works for those that it works for - including me. I went from street a junkie that never did nothin' fer no one to a brickie to a university graduate to a paid researcher in about a decade. But that's me (and I guess you too) - both compliant and willing recoverers (if that's even a word). What about the vast majority that just don't "get the program"?
Re-evaluation Counselling, Transactional Analysis, Theravadan Buddhist Doctrine, Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, Power/Compassion Technique, etc, etc have all proved to be at least as effective (usually more so) as the 12 step program in treating addiction. All invite examination, analysis, and theoretical/professional challenge from outside. Moreover, all this is done to improve treatment standards. AA on the other hand...
Well, far be it for ME to tell YOU how it goes in AA...
First of all Hammersley, I make a distinction between addiction and alcoholism and feel that what MAY be effective in treating addiction may NOT be effective with alcoholism. I admit to knowing nothing at all about the above "therapies", but they sound like fluff to me. If someone tells me that their loved one is a full blown alkie and asks for advice.... sorry, but I don't think I'll suggest any of your approaches. Also, I love the way you phrase - "all proved to be at least as
effective (usually more so)... etc. What is being compared? Are they comparing to the ficticious 5% the haters claim? And how do you measure success? It's the same old bullshit circular arguement/anti AA attack stuff. In the meantime, AA is helping Alkies, one at a time, right now, all over the world and for people who want to get sober and stay sober, it works. Afterthought. AA is AA.(for alcoholics). 12-step programs is lots of OTHER stuff - some, not so good.
[1] At a very meager success benchmark, defined as still attending meetings after one year (i.e. not even sober) the research has shown over and over and over again that the "success rate" of AA is 5 - 15% (depending on the research: 5% for AA's OWN research, other's range from 5 - 15%), I'd say that we can safely conclude that it doesn't work. Before you go jumping up and down, let me rephrase that: "AA's efficacy rate is extremely low".
Hammersley - the 5% figure used by critics is NOT based on research. The figure had it's origins when someone in AA, in an internal memo, observed (anecdotally) that 95% of first time attendees leave within the first year. The bashers (Agent Orange in particular) siezed on this and asserted that this meant that AA was only 5% effective. Of course he did not publish the memo itself. What haters do not mention is that the ones who leave, COME BACK. The amazing thing is that 5% "get it" right away.
[2] I have seen you dispute these findings over and over on these threads without actually bothering to examine the research itself. If that's what you want to believe, then good luck to ya! You are entitled to, and welcome to, your own delusions...
Hammersley, here are the figures from the last AA tri-ennial survey. Two million members, average length of sobriety - 8 years.
10 plus years -36%
5-10 years - 14%
1-5 years - 24%
less than one year - 26%
Further, these stats are VERY conservative, as the survey method results in gross undercounting. My estimate is that total membership (sober) is more like 5 million.
I'll take the figures as presented. Why is there (in your opinion) a lull in the 5-10 membership bracket?
BTW: I accept that the spread and longevity of the movement as well as the success that is seen in and around "the rooms" is more than enough to justify its recommendation and continuance.
The fall-off in the 5-10 year range I believe is caused by people cutting back on their AA attendence. Many do. After 5 years or so, if they've done the work, the AA way of life has been learned. It is portable, and you can take it with you. No real need to attend meetings, so they drift away - usually not too far away, but into what you might call an "inactive" class. Later on, they drift back in, perhaps when they have more leisure time or feel they want to "give back"
[A] Aaah, Tumey/SORDY/Quicky/rimmy, you never fail to NOT disappoint. The old out of date, totally baseless, flyaway alcoholism/addiction distinction that ONLY exists between your ears and within a small subset of AA. Funny thing is, Wilson himself, via the synthesis of Jung's psychoanalytic addiction theory, didn't make this distinction. You really are pretty much alone with that opinion. But hey! Once gain, you're entitled to it...
"I admit to knowing nothing at all about the above "therapies", but they sound like fluff to me."
Aaaah, there ya go again Tumey/Sordy/Quicky/Rimmer (or whoever you are). You know nothin' 'bout it but it "sounds like fluff" to you does it? Do you ever re-read your comments and gasp (for all the wrong reasons)? Psychoanalysis, using the same therapeutic techniques, has had remarkable success with both addicts and alcoholics (ethanol addicts) for decades now.
Hammersley, if you say that psychoanalysis is effective in treating alcoholism, I'll take your word for it. My own observation has been that the shrinks (as a group) have tried to treat (and control) the condition, but over time have come to recognize their limitations. Over the years, more and more, I see shrinks sending patients directly to AA and perhaps continuing therapy as an adjunct.
[i] Yes, I agree, psyches and shrinks aren't blameless either - there are some REAL quacks out there. The main criticism I have of (some/most of) them is their endless litany of labels and conditions that they invent to explain human dysfunction. In this way, they actually provide more and more OPPORTUNITIES for mental and emotional illness. They actually BUILD ego through narrative therapy, inner child therapy, family of origin therapy, etc, etc, etc.
[ii] And perhaps I'm doing a bit of a back flip here, but the "beauty" of 12 step is that it DISSOLVES the ego through various means (e.g. surrender, faith, self examination, service to others, etc). Thus it has the potential to get to the root of the problem from the outset...
My point is Tumey, at the end of the day, the steps are so "flexible" (non-definitive) that to say that they are "a" guideline is a nonsense. To speak of "the" 12 Step Program is a misnomer. Thus, "all" AA (or any other 12 step movement) is, is a bunch of human beings getting together and TRYING - in very, very different ways. Thus, it is the collegiallity, fraternity, and consequent psychosocial pressure thereof, that is the operative factor in the AA "technique" - nothing more, nothing less.
A close friend of mine voiced her concern about my drinkin about a year ago but at the time I had a hard time believing that I had a problem. And now I just finished my first year of college but we havent talked to each other about my drinking since then. I dont know if I have a problem or not because isnt it typical for college student to drink a lot?
I'm sitting here in an enclave of London listening to you. All that you have said rings true. I'm wondering, as i drink again tonight, what i need to do to change things. Night after night i escape reality with drink...my dad a alchoholic and like you i have the 'gene'. You speak the truth and say what i know resounds in my heart and yet i cannot seem to find a stopping point. I look at you now and see a better me...an equal in terms of future good health and parity of understanding.Thanks...
I have been living in Japan for the last 6 years. I love to drink beer ONLY everynight. I have managed to cut my beer intake down, but it is still too high. It's hard to say whether I am an alcoholic or not! Either way, I don't have the support groups to go to as easily as in western countries.
I know this isn't a very good solution but try to find some sites online, I know it doesn't have the advantages as a one on one with someone but it's a start. I think theres a site called SoS , I will try to find it for you.
Thanks for this video. Today is my QUIT DAY! While I know it won't be a walk in the park, it's nice to hear from people who've done it and are continuing to do it. All the best to you!
sometimes you wake up and your day just starts out shitful and then you get on youtube and see lovely messages like this and everything is ok again...you're a sweetheart thank you. V
thank you for the comment...I dont care if others think they have a 'cure' for alcoholism but don't be putting dont other 'non profit' organisations for trying to help.
the 101program isn't non-profit, as far as I know. The woman is cionstantly promoting herself as the author of her book - she's trying to sell it.
But yeah, fair nuff - it's for others to decide what route to go down trying to get the the happy, sober life they want and deserve. Everyone can do it, I believe.
It's like getting off a merrygoround. My alcoholism is chronic and from waking to falling asleep, even when I intend to give up I usually end up extending it another day... week.. month..
Jump off, and go to meetings. Listen, talk, corner someone and talk.
Don't feel you've failed if you drink again when you want to stop. Just try again. I'm sober 5 years now, and it is possible for everyone. I used to be drinking 24/7 and I sorted my life out through AA. I have a good life now.
I get tempted, but I can deal with temptation now, and I can push it away. YOU CAN TOO. :o)
Alcoholism runs in my family. My son is battling it. He hides bottles... no two days are the same in this house. He has depression and is medicated. He also uses street drugs. I hope he can find the help he needs. You are a wonderful inspiration!
Thank veranduh, I hope for your sake he stops, it must be so so hard for you to watch your son on this slippery slope. My heart goes out to you and your boy.
Thanks for posting this video manque15. I think you spoke really well, and from the heart. I have alcohol problems, severe depression and have misused drugs. These days all the drug use stems from excessive drinking and I'm trying to break free of drink all the time. I appreciate your video and hope to be able to emulate what you're doing.
Let me know how you go...it seems odd to me that not more people have posted their stories. A couple made one or two then stopped. I wonder if they fell off the wagon so to speak. Anyway keep me posted I would love to know how you are going. cheers
i like the part that you wont quit until you are ready. parents telling me that makes me wanna go drink. im 25. 13 i was bringing vodka to school. high school i would go through a handle every two days. now i drink a half pint in one chug by myself after work or school. today i drove around for 30 min fighting if i should go get a bottle and i choose not to. is this a problem?
I've seen some people think their partners had a drinking problem when they had 2 glasses of wine a night ...hell I wish I could've had just 2 glasses of wine a night...Once I had one drink I didn't stop...so how many it takes for one to drink till they pass out each time they drank.
I saw this when it was new, just chanced across it again; I find it interesting that after a short time you felt AA was depressing. I found it that way too. If they didn't try to scare everyone into staying, it wouldn't be quite so bad.
well no one tried me to do anything ...I dont know what they are like in any other country but in Sydney they were very laid back and didnt push the god concept at all...
thanks for sharing. Have you seen the video on why AA doesnt work? Just type those key words in. I have been sober without AA. I dont trust there underlying religious angles and their approach to quitting.
yeah I seen it...I dont care if AA works or not..I'm not trying to sell AA, I was just telling my story...I only went to AA for a few months then it started to depress me.
I'm in trouble with 2 kids and loving husband. This has always been in my history. When I was around eight I downed a glass of pretty pink champagne. It tasted wonderful. My mother told me off immensely. Aged 13 I was hiding the odd bottle of low-cal beer from Dad's garage fridge in my bedroom. I've heard a theory that the "sweet taste of alcohol" can grab you. I've tried therapy and took part in a US clinical trial for a new drug -- fairly certain I got the placebo. Called AA - but stigma!
havent been in years...I only went at the beginning when I first gave up because I didnt know what else to do...but when I seen I wasnt the only one going though what I was going through things started getting better...to tell you the truth they bored me after a while.
Hello. Thanks for the reply. I reckon alot of people feel the same way, but still go through the motions in order to keep sober. what do you do to keep sober?
I dont do anything, alcohol is such NOT a part of my life I dont even think about it..
well I do try and stay out of situations that cause me a lot of stress which is hard for me because of my mouth but I dont even think about alcohol...when I gave it up it was like I gave up even thinking about it as an entity in my life...I was too busy trying to cope with life let alone thinking about it.
Another really good video. One theory I believe is that alcoholism is sugar sensitivity. I've read that some studies show that alcoholics have low blood sugar and the alcohol brings the level right up and then it crashes. This to me is a very functional way of thinking about it as blood sugar levels can be controlled with a change in diet, like the "hypoglycemia diet".
i just stopped drinking today and i needed to watch some vids and get myself together.i just hit the bottom by developing alcoholic sores on my body.hard liqour was cooking my organs and bloodstream.
thanks babe. i guess i just have to do it one day at a time.its already hard as hell.and i get mood swings right now,but i will try to curb myself and smile when i really feel angry.sometimes i just dont have anyone to talk to.thats the only thing i hate.
yes the mood swings...I never mentioned that did I. I think thats what the next one will be on...well Im always here if you want to msg me I know its not the same as someone in person but like I said Im always here V
Thanks for the comforting words.I love u! and by the way,Your'e fine as hell! If i lived in your town,I would take you out to a bar and wed'e drink water all night.LOL but (seriously) when i feel down,I'll always come back to your page.afterall,your not bad to look at either.Thanx!
I was not a Christian when I got into AA back in 1980. After 5 years of meetings, I began to seek God more fervently. After about a year I found The Answer. I work now to help people who are seeking The Answer to be reconciled with God who loves them. This is the true gospel of Christ Jesus. This is where we find the joy of life and the hope of everlasting life. His name is Jesus. Amen. :)
Again, well done. While travelling in Sydney (early 90's) I met a famous rock musician (now deceased) who encouraged me to go to an AA meeting. So I know your area. Plus I have a daughter in Melbourne. Keep up the good work!!!
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you people are odd. i drink every night and i am happy as hell. i even won state on a pettal bike drinking like hell. god bless those who have a problem. maybe try crack?
I drink..Im GUILTY.. Im an Alckhy.. Its my fault.. I Cant stop.. Shes right!!! Im not ready> I want healp.. so Ashamed of who i am!!.. I drink Cauze I hate myself!! Its my fault!!!
Chainsaw - if you're an alky it's NOT because you're a bad person. It's because you're a sick person. Perhaps you think you HAVE TO drink. You do not. You DO NOT have to drink. There IS a remedy.
I'll tell you what worked for me. I started going to AA meetings - still drinking, and thinking I had little hope. Kept going to meetings nevertheless. Had 3 hospitalizations, but kept going. After 3rd hospitalization never drank again. It was the AA really - something happened. For the next several years, I LIVED for AA meetings. Sober now- 38 years. Still attend.
You are my idol. I respect you will power very much. Also you are a very beautiful woman, physically, mentally & spiritually. I admire you very much. Are you married?
You say there is no point in confronting and forcing an alcoholic person but who can watch someone close die or let them totally wear the people around them down on the other hand. "Shock therapy" with lots of friends and family gathered to force the person into admission is something that Ive heard can work. Anyone with experience with this who has some advice?
Poor girl. Has not a clue about AA's Tradition of Anonymity. Breaks the fellowship's Tradtions on so many levels, I don't know where to begin. Ego run riot, unfortunately. You need a real AA sponsor.
Excellent second vid - I know what you mean about hearing other ppl 'telling your story' when it comes to alcoholism. I read the soccer star Tony Adams' book 'addicted' recently, even though I have nothing in common with this millonaire sports star when i he talked about his relationship with drink it was like seeing my thoughts on paper. Thanks again, God bless.
I have someone very close to me who I am trying to get to quit ....I can't even begin to tell you how your life will change (for the better) good luck to you, you definitely have me on your side rooting for you..V
the good news when you give up booze,you get your emotions back,the bad news when you give up booze,you get your emotions back!i felt exactly how you felt when i first gave up alcohol,but i,m loving life without it now,thanks very much for your video,it will help so many of us.
alcoholism is a nightmare rules and ruins lives alcohol does not care about colour, creed, wealth or gender, it affects all walks of life its a living hell, well their you have it. oh pretty top :-)
Girl, I love you. You tell it just like it is. Alcohol is not racist. We come from all walks of life. I wish they would take it off the market but they make too much money off of us. Jail is full of alcohlics that are wonderful people. They count on us. Political influence to kill their own people and tax us for doing it. They love marketing it in every way possible. What a wonderful gift. Genocide in my opinion!
Thanks again. You are really putting things into perspective for me. I guess I'm in the acceptance phase, but not really sure where to go from there. I've been in the "acceptance" phase for years though...Either way, it's really amazing that you put yourself out here in cyber space for everyone to see. It takes a very strong person to admit a problem.
Have never given up drinking... Don't even get drunk anymore. Hasn't ruined anything, in fact, it has helped me support changes in my life which were necessary. Things that were making me unhealthy. I wont say that drinking saved me, but damn it was a nice crutch in the bad times and a damn good Celebratory thing when it got good.
Well done. I quit the same way you did. Just stopped. This past new years was my 10th year drink free. =) Anyway a very good video. Thanks for sharing
Just looked at your Channel and it says that your age is 51?!!??!? No way! U look 20 years younger than that!
prasert85 1 month ago
i'm 44, i went through detox for 6 days, than straight to in patient. i couldn't stop shaking, so they kept me medicated for the 2 months i was there, now i'm drinking again, i don't want to give up on life, i just don't know what to do. the mental rollercoaster was a bitch, but i wish i had given it more time. bobby
stinkbugist 7 months ago
@stinkbugist I did AA for a year, but their faith healing wasn't for me. I now do two things: SMART Recovery and meetup.com. Being with others, without the God thing, has worked now for 2 years and 8 months so far. The main thing for me is being around other people who have quit. I stopped thinking it was an incurable disease like AA says, and started seeing drinking as a coping mechanism. I started using SMART Recovery suggestions and found that they work. I don't want to drink any more.
ndrthrdr1 7 months ago
And after this..?
Aletodis 9 months ago
Number 1 Advice. The horrible emotional turmoil and withdrawals are like a roller coast. When you go up you will come back down. You wont always be up. People and especially me have this problem. I always want to drink during my toughest emotional/physical withdrawals. it will go away its not a permanent thing.
Guitarstring187 1 year ago
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aa wants you to believe in jesus and if you dont they follow you around and beat you up and then when you go to the police they lie about beatin you up and pretend to not believe in jesus when they really do and the police wont believe them anyway and will make aa say sorry and go to jail until they are sorry to everyone
AnviIOfKrom 1 year ago
Excellent stuff, well done, keep on keeping on. Author, Blue Ribbon Army.
TheBlueRibbonArmy 1 year ago
Thank you, you inspired me to go to a meeting, God bless you
kelo32 1 year ago
i must tell, if you came out of alcholimsm , you look great
i am an alocoholi myself,, could you please show me some adwice quit drinking ?
Huxflux22 2 years ago
i wonder if she has done any step work??
eternallifejohn316 2 years ago
The doc had me on Talwin (synthetic morphine), Fentynal Duragesic patches (morphine) and Stadol NS (synthetic morphine).....all at the same time. I was a mess and I will never get into that mess ever again. Beware of Big Pharma..they are legal drug pushers. Thanks manque15
TBA4Freedom 2 years ago
5 years ago I went cold turkey off of morphine that my doc had me on for 4 years. I had no choice because it was killing me slowly and the doc wouldn't help me. OMG!! The withdrawl was horrible...2 weeks of scariest shit that I have ever encountered. But I got through it.
TBA4Freedom 2 years ago
yup, I'm a friend of Bill's too!
Congrats...now, we get to go through this whole World change thing...SOBER...
Looks like I picked the wrong time to quit drinking...hahaha, good luck to you!
globalcompressor 2 years ago
quitting drinking is not easy, but you are watching this video you probably should quit. Good luck everybody
kinkeezie 2 years ago 6
thanks so much for this. i am days away from quitting. its been difficult and i just want it to be out of my life. thanks for a 2 part candid and genuine video. it is encouraging and i am grateful. i'll let you know how i go... xxx
dandini2999 2 years ago
Took me about 3 mo. Then Court, Bankruptcy, Car totaled with no insincere, law suits, job loss.
The only thing that kept me strong enough was Meetings and not Drinking.
One day it was all over.
That was my 3rd step.
Thanks
AAFellowship 2 years ago
My mummy went to AA and came out gay...
Hammersley1967 2 years ago
you look stunning well done!!
studioworks808 2 years ago
good you are sober, well done
jonslaterhome 2 years ago
Great message
I've listened to you many times
Alcoholics Anonymous is the greatest support group in the world - nothing else even comes close.
quickcap 2 years ago
I like your down-to-earthness about the situation.
jcrewdoll 2 years ago
Not an alcoholic and not really a fan of alcohol but I find your video very intriguing.
Great information and well done to you for giving free advice.
StephenAries 2 years ago
There is not a chance in hell i would give up alcohol. I did stop drinking at one point in my life and i felt powerless...never again. I may suffer from alcoholism (which i am aware) but i will not go through life without a crutch again or some kind of defense...
Hateeternal2009 2 years ago
I think you have given an incrdible free service to alcoholics.
uniwork88 2 years ago
I hit my rock bottom early last year. I happened on your videos and they struck a note with me. I'm happy to say that I've turned my life around for the better, and I believe listening to your experiences helped me on my way. Thank you.
michaeljamesaskew 3 years ago
No ..thank you for taking the time to make a comment and Im so glad you're doing well.
manque15 3 years ago
Manque, you look hot! Id go to a A.A. meeting with you any time.
1149morris 3 years ago
I am AA.
You are powerless.
Do the steps or DIE!
AzzholesAnonymous 3 years ago
Surely if you were powerless then you
would never stop drinking alcohol.
FENDIN10 3 years ago
I went to my first AA meeting tonight. It was a better experience than I expected but there was this old truck driver looking guy who is already in love with me. I hope he doesn't turn into a stalker.
RiotGrrrlLogic 3 years ago
I smoked for 13 years and quit smoking with no problem. Alcohol owns my soul.
I cant walk away. There's no rock bottom for me. And I know what the answer to that will be. "nothing you can tell us that we haven't heard." Bullshit.
People wince and walk away.
Its happened so many times that I know it will again.
I don't know what else to say.
AlkieFish 3 years ago
How come part one has more than 15,000 views and part two a third of views less?? Why don't people watch part two?!?! ... just a thought.
Hope you are o.k. - All the best from over here, Anja (the "hard-box-case" :-):-) !)
Maidinmhaith 3 years ago
probably because I bored them shitless ;)
manque15 3 years ago
Hi, I know how you feel about Gina and her 101 program. Just wanted you to know that every time I pass through, I leave her a nasty comment.
tumescent345 3 years ago
im the strongest person i know and the weakest just recently people close to me have told me of the problems with my drinking i am successful and a great dad that was two months ago until i finally started listening to those people now i see i am not awesome as i thought i was still drinking wtf.....
RAM2626 3 years ago
i havnt hit rock bottom, but almost, i cant help this fight any more, i have a great life, loving family, wicked friends and a beautiful daughter who i would give my life for, the sad thing is i am almost giving my life for her, shes six and my rock but whoever wants to judge i still cant kick the alcohol, im eaten uo with remorse and cutting my life short and my girl means the world to me, but this is powerfull the addiction is potent
xxamyshanxx 3 years ago
"As to changing the Steps themselves, or even the text of the AA book, I am assured by many that I could certainly be excommunicated if a word were touched. It is a strange fact of human nature that when a spiritually centered movement starts and finally adopts certain principles, these finally freeze absolutely solid. But what can't be done respecting the steps themselves - or any part of the AA book - I can make a shift by writing these pieces which I hope folks will like."
Bill Wilson (1952)
Hammersley1967 3 years ago
Hammersley, you make a great deal of this, but it means nothing. Wilson wrote the 12 and 12 and also a small book called "As Bill sees it" Underlying ALL of it is the fact that EVERYTHING is open to ones' interpretation. The steps are simply a guidline to sober living - a happy life without fear, guilt, remorse, resentments, and most of all without ALCOHOL.
tumescent345 3 years ago
Seems like your the one making a "great deal" out of the steps. On one hand you say that "underlying ALL of it is the fact that EVERYTHING is open to ones' interpretation" yet you maintain that that sacrosanct 12 steps are a difinitive "GUIDLINE to sober living - a happy life without fear, guilt, remorse, resentments, and most of all without ALCOHOL". So is there NO substance to the steps? Are they as flexible as you would have me believe? Can I interpret the first step anyway I like?
Hammersley1967 3 years ago
Certainly you can make your own interpretation. I believe everyone does, at least to some small degree. What does "powerless" mean? This is debated endlessly in discussions, but the bottom line is - do you WANT to stay sober? A common interpretation of step one is: I can't handle this shit any more - my life is fucked up! There are others who want to take the meaning out to another level - make it very spiritual (and complicated) Each to his own - whatever works for YOU is most appropriate.
tumescent345 3 years ago
My point is Tumey, at the end of the day, the steps are so "flexible" (non-definitive) that to say that they are "a" guideline is a nonsense. To speak of "the" 12 Step Program is a misnomer. Thus, "all" AA (or any other 12 step movement) is, is a bunch of human beings getting together and TRYING - in very, very different ways. It is the collegiallity, fraternity, and consequent psychosocial pressure thereof, that is the operative factor in the AA "technique" - nothing more and nothing less.
Hammersley1967 3 years ago
"guideline" is just another word for "pathway" . To place yourself on a pathway along with others who are seeking the same destination is a good and powerful thing. You learn that there is strength and power in numbers, and begin to trust and accept guidance and direction from others (something that is foreign to most active and newly sober alkies) Within my AA group there is a power greater than myself. This power is very real and has helped keep me sober for many years.
tumescent345 3 years ago
I agree with all that Tumey. That's why I put the quotation marks around "all" when I said "all AA is". The psychosocial pressure and identity transformation of in-group membership is indeed a powerful phenomenon. However, I still believe that there is a lot of magical thinking, mental gymnastics, and word games around "the" steps which, to be quite frank, did not have much thought put into them in the first place. They were a mere rip off and expansion of the Oxford Group directives.
Hammersley1967 3 years ago
In AA we have a common saying - "don't analyize - utilize". As I said earlier, it's ALL open to interpretation, but there is little to be gained by parsing and dissecting it out with intense critical analysis. If it's not for you - move on. It's not complicated and it does work splendidly for those who are willing to make an honest effort. The stakes are high.
tumescent345 3 years ago
In AA we have a common saying - "don't analyize - utilize".
I've heard this cliché used over and over again in my 13 years of sobriety. The 12 step movement is the ONLY recognised spiritual or psycho-emotional technique in existence that advocates non-reflexivity and non-analysis. Rational examination of the program does not automatically imply inaction - on the contrary. So why the cover up? If anyone actually examines the therapeutic value of "THE PROGRAM", one finds very little.
Hammersley1967 3 years ago
I'll stand by my comment above. AA is simple, and it has worked for me and millions of other alcoholics. How EXACTLY does it work? I don't care. Notwithstanding all the bullshit on YouTube, the "proof" is self-evident at any AA meeting. People who were formally 3/4 dead from alcohol are now sober, happy,productive and helping others.
tumescent345 3 years ago
Yes, I agree, it works for those that it works for - including me. I went from street a junkie that never did nothin' fer no one to a brickie to a university graduate to a paid researcher in about a decade. But that's me (and I guess you too) - both compliant and willing recoverers (if that's even a word). What about the vast majority that just don't "get the program"?
Hammersley1967 3 years ago
What's a "Brickie"?
tumescent345 3 years ago
Brick layer...
Hammersley1967 3 years ago
Re-evaluation Counselling, Transactional Analysis, Theravadan Buddhist Doctrine, Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, Power/Compassion Technique, etc, etc have all proved to be at least as effective (usually more so) as the 12 step program in treating addiction. All invite examination, analysis, and theoretical/professional challenge from outside. Moreover, all this is done to improve treatment standards. AA on the other hand...
Well, far be it for ME to tell YOU how it goes in AA...
Hammersley1967 3 years ago
First of all Hammersley, I make a distinction between addiction and alcoholism and feel that what MAY be effective in treating addiction may NOT be effective with alcoholism. I admit to knowing nothing at all about the above "therapies", but they sound like fluff to me. If someone tells me that their loved one is a full blown alkie and asks for advice.... sorry, but I don't think I'll suggest any of your approaches. Also, I love the way you phrase - "all proved to be at least as
tumescent345 3 years ago
effective (usually more so)... etc. What is being compared? Are they comparing to the ficticious 5% the haters claim? And how do you measure success? It's the same old bullshit circular arguement/anti AA attack stuff. In the meantime, AA is helping Alkies, one at a time, right now, all over the world and for people who want to get sober and stay sober, it works. Afterthought. AA is AA.(for alcoholics). 12-step programs is lots of OTHER stuff - some, not so good.
tumescent345 3 years ago
[1] At a very meager success benchmark, defined as still attending meetings after one year (i.e. not even sober) the research has shown over and over and over again that the "success rate" of AA is 5 - 15% (depending on the research: 5% for AA's OWN research, other's range from 5 - 15%), I'd say that we can safely conclude that it doesn't work. Before you go jumping up and down, let me rephrase that: "AA's efficacy rate is extremely low".
Hammersley1967 3 years ago
Hammersley - the 5% figure used by critics is NOT based on research. The figure had it's origins when someone in AA, in an internal memo, observed (anecdotally) that 95% of first time attendees leave within the first year. The bashers (Agent Orange in particular) siezed on this and asserted that this meant that AA was only 5% effective. Of course he did not publish the memo itself. What haters do not mention is that the ones who leave, COME BACK. The amazing thing is that 5% "get it" right away.
tumescent345 3 years ago
[2] I have seen you dispute these findings over and over on these threads without actually bothering to examine the research itself. If that's what you want to believe, then good luck to ya! You are entitled to, and welcome to, your own delusions...
Hammersley1967 3 years ago
Hammersley, here are the figures from the last AA tri-ennial survey. Two million members, average length of sobriety - 8 years.
10 plus years -36%
5-10 years - 14%
1-5 years - 24%
less than one year - 26%
Further, these stats are VERY conservative, as the survey method results in gross undercounting. My estimate is that total membership (sober) is more like 5 million.
tumescent345 3 years ago
I'll take the figures as presented. Why is there (in your opinion) a lull in the 5-10 membership bracket?
BTW: I accept that the spread and longevity of the movement as well as the success that is seen in and around "the rooms" is more than enough to justify its recommendation and continuance.
Hammersley1967 3 years ago
The fall-off in the 5-10 year range I believe is caused by people cutting back on their AA attendence. Many do. After 5 years or so, if they've done the work, the AA way of life has been learned. It is portable, and you can take it with you. No real need to attend meetings, so they drift away - usually not too far away, but into what you might call an "inactive" class. Later on, they drift back in, perhaps when they have more leisure time or feel they want to "give back"
tumescent345 3 years ago
[A] Aaah, Tumey/SORDY/Quicky/rimmy, you never fail to NOT disappoint. The old out of date, totally baseless, flyaway alcoholism/addiction distinction that ONLY exists between your ears and within a small subset of AA. Funny thing is, Wilson himself, via the synthesis of Jung's psychoanalytic addiction theory, didn't make this distinction. You really are pretty much alone with that opinion. But hey! Once gain, you're entitled to it...
Hammersley1967 3 years ago
[B]
"I admit to knowing nothing at all about the above "therapies", but they sound like fluff to me."
Aaaah, there ya go again Tumey/Sordy/Quicky/Rimmer (or whoever you are). You know nothin' 'bout it but it "sounds like fluff" to you does it? Do you ever re-read your comments and gasp (for all the wrong reasons)? Psychoanalysis, using the same therapeutic techniques, has had remarkable success with both addicts and alcoholics (ethanol addicts) for decades now.
Hammersley1967 3 years ago
Hammersley, if you say that psychoanalysis is effective in treating alcoholism, I'll take your word for it. My own observation has been that the shrinks (as a group) have tried to treat (and control) the condition, but over time have come to recognize their limitations. Over the years, more and more, I see shrinks sending patients directly to AA and perhaps continuing therapy as an adjunct.
tumescent345 3 years ago
[i] Yes, I agree, psyches and shrinks aren't blameless either - there are some REAL quacks out there. The main criticism I have of (some/most of) them is their endless litany of labels and conditions that they invent to explain human dysfunction. In this way, they actually provide more and more OPPORTUNITIES for mental and emotional illness. They actually BUILD ego through narrative therapy, inner child therapy, family of origin therapy, etc, etc, etc.
Hammersley1967 3 years ago
[ii] And perhaps I'm doing a bit of a back flip here, but the "beauty" of 12 step is that it DISSOLVES the ego through various means (e.g. surrender, faith, self examination, service to others, etc). Thus it has the potential to get to the root of the problem from the outset...
Hammersley1967 3 years ago
My point is Tumey, at the end of the day, the steps are so "flexible" (non-definitive) that to say that they are "a" guideline is a nonsense. To speak of "the" 12 Step Program is a misnomer. Thus, "all" AA (or any other 12 step movement) is, is a bunch of human beings getting together and TRYING - in very, very different ways. Thus, it is the collegiallity, fraternity, and consequent psychosocial pressure thereof, that is the operative factor in the AA "technique" - nothing more, nothing less.
Hammersley1967 3 years ago
A close friend of mine voiced her concern about my drinkin about a year ago but at the time I had a hard time believing that I had a problem. And now I just finished my first year of college but we havent talked to each other about my drinking since then. I dont know if I have a problem or not because isnt it typical for college student to drink a lot?
megan51789 3 years ago
I'm sitting here in an enclave of London listening to you. All that you have said rings true. I'm wondering, as i drink again tonight, what i need to do to change things. Night after night i escape reality with drink...my dad a alchoholic and like you i have the 'gene'. You speak the truth and say what i know resounds in my heart and yet i cannot seem to find a stopping point. I look at you now and see a better me...an equal in terms of future good health and parity of understanding.Thanks...
davidminchella 3 years ago
Righteous.
>:-D
hallucifuge 3 years ago
good to see your helping so many on here.
well done,i love life sober!
dickiescants 3 years ago
Holy shit you are sooo Hot!!
lex2774 3 years ago
wow this is hot
bongforest 3 years ago
Easy way to control alcohol, by Allan Carr is the way.
keith6660 3 years ago
YOU MEAN THE RIP-OFF CARR
nadotorg 3 years ago
Thanks for your courage .. and honesty ...
very inspiring video(s)
nomaughlimbaugh 3 years ago
why thank you and thanks for taking the time to send me a message
manque15 3 years ago
Drinking has no affected your appearance,you are very beautiful still.
yorkermiles 3 years ago
you're very kind thank you ...I stopped in my thirties which I think helped a LOT...
manque15 3 years ago
You're awesome! Thanks for sharing.
tlseay 3 years ago
I think you're awesome for being lovely enough to leave just a nice msg ty
manque15 3 years ago
4th day sober!! after 7yrs of daily drinking!!
jumpyjedi 3 years ago
well frikken done...hang in there dude..Im rooting for you.
manque15 3 years ago
i want to quit!
jumpyjedi 3 years ago
Hi there,
I have been living in Japan for the last 6 years. I love to drink beer ONLY everynight. I have managed to cut my beer intake down, but it is still too high. It's hard to say whether I am an alcoholic or not! Either way, I don't have the support groups to go to as easily as in western countries.
What should I do to fix my nightly addiction!
Regards
Craig
KooTiger 3 years ago
I know this isn't a very good solution but try to find some sites online, I know it doesn't have the advantages as a one on one with someone but it's a start. I think theres a site called SoS , I will try to find it for you.
cheers
V
manque15 3 years ago
Thanks for this video. Today is my QUIT DAY! While I know it won't be a walk in the park, it's nice to hear from people who've done it and are continuing to do it. All the best to you!
lucaslucas87 3 years ago
Well done, glad you quit before you lost your
good looks, I drink and then jog the next day
~ 5 miles,then eat well, but I always end up
back at the pub. I work from home to avoid
stress and traffic, turned the TV of a long time ago too much crap on it. I am a perfectionist in an imperfect World, so things
can trigger a binge night real easy, oh well
fight the good fight, and again well done.
STEVEGET 3 years ago
sometimes you wake up and your day just starts out shitful and then you get on youtube and see lovely messages like this and everything is ok again...you're a sweetheart thank you. V
manque15 3 years ago
It's always nice to give, you have a wonderful
day.
STEVEGET 3 years ago
thank you for this video. i am on day 18 of not drinking and i feel like shit lol.
kbrangham 3 years ago
lol, I really shouldnt laugh I know exactly how you feel.
dude it will get better trust me...MUCH BEtter
manque15 3 years ago
Good job, so good of you to do this video. I'm four and a half years without a drink now. I still struggle, but I'm sober.
Good luck to you and thanks again.
I think some of us should do a put-down video aimed at the101program which I think is a dangerous thing. That woman is the Anti-AA!
LordInksworth 3 years ago
thank you for the comment...I dont care if others think they have a 'cure' for alcoholism but don't be putting dont other 'non profit' organisations for trying to help.
manque15 3 years ago
the 101program isn't non-profit, as far as I know. The woman is cionstantly promoting herself as the author of her book - she's trying to sell it.
But yeah, fair nuff - it's for others to decide what route to go down trying to get the the happy, sober life they want and deserve. Everyone can do it, I believe.
LordInksworth 3 years ago
Yes, thats who my last comment was directed at, 101, not you, I hope you didnt take it that way!
cheers
V
manque15 3 years ago
no problem :o)
wish you came to my home group... ;O)
LordInksworth 3 years ago
I am not ready to go on the tube just yet. Although I did post quite a few on here when I was drunk!!!
nycswl2006 4 years ago
It's like getting off a merrygoround. My alcoholism is chronic and from waking to falling asleep, even when I intend to give up I usually end up extending it another day... week.. month..
Corrupt5358 4 years ago
That's it, my friend, a merrygoround.
Jump off, and go to meetings. Listen, talk, corner someone and talk.
Don't feel you've failed if you drink again when you want to stop. Just try again. I'm sober 5 years now, and it is possible for everyone. I used to be drinking 24/7 and I sorted my life out through AA. I have a good life now.
I get tempted, but I can deal with temptation now, and I can push it away. YOU CAN TOO. :o)
LordInksworth 3 years ago
I remember my first 30 days. I called it 30 days and a thousand nights!!!
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Guitarstring187 1 year ago
Alcoholism runs in my family. My son is battling it. He hides bottles... no two days are the same in this house. He has depression and is medicated. He also uses street drugs. I hope he can find the help he needs. You are a wonderful inspiration!
veranduh 4 years ago 2
Thank veranduh, I hope for your sake he stops, it must be so so hard for you to watch your son on this slippery slope. My heart goes out to you and your boy.
manque15 4 years ago
Thanks for posting this video manque15. I think you spoke really well, and from the heart. I have alcohol problems, severe depression and have misused drugs. These days all the drug use stems from excessive drinking and I'm trying to break free of drink all the time. I appreciate your video and hope to be able to emulate what you're doing.
becauseimjoe 4 years ago
Let me know how you go...it seems odd to me that not more people have posted their stories. A couple made one or two then stopped. I wonder if they fell off the wagon so to speak. Anyway keep me posted I would love to know how you are going. cheers
V
manque15 4 years ago
i like the part that you wont quit until you are ready. parents telling me that makes me wanna go drink. im 25. 13 i was bringing vodka to school. high school i would go through a handle every two days. now i drink a half pint in one chug by myself after work or school. today i drove around for 30 min fighting if i should go get a bottle and i choose not to. is this a problem?
INOWRO 4 years ago
people who dont have a problem dont sit around wondering if they do.
cincy67 4 years ago
good that makes me feel better
INOWRO 4 years ago
yeah sometimes when i dont remember 2 weeks and havent left the house i wonder but i guess your right im just out having fun, no prob
INOWRO 4 years ago
hi manque thank you for the vid.
im 25 and think i have a problem.
im having a drink while writing this, which basically explains that i hide a lot of anxiety and panic with alcohol lol.
could you tell me how much you drink? or drank?. im only asking because ive realised each case is different, but all the same.
thanks
rychlewski27 4 years ago
I've seen some people think their partners had a drinking problem when they had 2 glasses of wine a night ...hell I wish I could've had just 2 glasses of wine a night...Once I had one drink I didn't stop...so how many it takes for one to drink till they pass out each time they drank.
manque15 4 years ago
I saw this when it was new, just chanced across it again; I find it interesting that after a short time you felt AA was depressing. I found it that way too. If they didn't try to scare everyone into staying, it wouldn't be quite so bad.
raysny 4 years ago
well no one tried me to do anything ...I dont know what they are like in any other country but in Sydney they were very laid back and didnt push the god concept at all...
manque15 4 years ago
thanks for sharing. Have you seen the video on why AA doesnt work? Just type those key words in. I have been sober without AA. I dont trust there underlying religious angles and their approach to quitting.
SoberinTampa 4 years ago
yeah I seen it...I dont care if AA works or not..I'm not trying to sell AA, I was just telling my story...I only went to AA for a few months then it started to depress me.
manque15 4 years ago
I'm in trouble with 2 kids and loving husband. This has always been in my history. When I was around eight I downed a glass of pretty pink champagne. It tasted wonderful. My mother told me off immensely. Aged 13 I was hiding the odd bottle of low-cal beer from Dad's garage fridge in my bedroom. I've heard a theory that the "sweet taste of alcohol" can grab you. I've tried therapy and took part in a US clinical trial for a new drug -- fairly certain I got the placebo. Called AA - but stigma!
04488265 4 years ago
I spelled "there" wrong. Their. fixed ok,there.
SoberinTampa 4 years ago
Do you still attend AA meetings?
danny73ca 4 years ago
havent been in years...I only went at the beginning when I first gave up because I didnt know what else to do...but when I seen I wasnt the only one going though what I was going through things started getting better...to tell you the truth they bored me after a while.
manque15 4 years ago
Hello. Thanks for the reply. I reckon alot of people feel the same way, but still go through the motions in order to keep sober. what do you do to keep sober?
danny73ca 4 years ago
I dont do anything, alcohol is such NOT a part of my life I dont even think about it..
well I do try and stay out of situations that cause me a lot of stress which is hard for me because of my mouth but I dont even think about alcohol...when I gave it up it was like I gave up even thinking about it as an entity in my life...I was too busy trying to cope with life let alone thinking about it.
manque15 4 years ago
Another really good video. One theory I believe is that alcoholism is sugar sensitivity. I've read that some studies show that alcoholics have low blood sugar and the alcohol brings the level right up and then it crashes. This to me is a very functional way of thinking about it as blood sugar levels can be controlled with a change in diet, like the "hypoglycemia diet".
EdZep123 4 years ago
i just stopped drinking today and i needed to watch some vids and get myself together.i just hit the bottom by developing alcoholic sores on my body.hard liqour was cooking my organs and bloodstream.
mikeygeneral 4 years ago
well I wish you all the will power in the world and I'll be here thinking you...V
manque15 4 years ago
thanks babe. i guess i just have to do it one day at a time.its already hard as hell.and i get mood swings right now,but i will try to curb myself and smile when i really feel angry.sometimes i just dont have anyone to talk to.thats the only thing i hate.
mikeygeneral 4 years ago
yes the mood swings...I never mentioned that did I. I think thats what the next one will be on...well Im always here if you want to msg me I know its not the same as someone in person but like I said Im always here V
manque15 4 years ago
Thanks for the comforting words.I love u! and by the way,Your'e fine as hell! If i lived in your town,I would take you out to a bar and wed'e drink water all night.LOL but (seriously) when i feel down,I'll always come back to your page.afterall,your not bad to look at either.Thanx!
mikeygeneral 4 years ago
I was not a Christian when I got into AA back in 1980. After 5 years of meetings, I began to seek God more fervently. After about a year I found The Answer. I work now to help people who are seeking The Answer to be reconciled with God who loves them. This is the true gospel of Christ Jesus. This is where we find the joy of life and the hope of everlasting life. His name is Jesus. Amen. :)
offline111 4 years ago
Again, well done. While travelling in Sydney (early 90's) I met a famous rock musician (now deceased) who encouraged me to go to an AA meeting. So I know your area. Plus I have a daughter in Melbourne. Keep up the good work!!!
twodoggzz 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
you people are odd. i drink every night and i am happy as hell. i even won state on a pettal bike drinking like hell. god bless those who have a problem. maybe try crack?
aironsanchez85nigga 4 years ago
you've obviously smoked it all.
fang666LSD 4 years ago
my uncle has problems with alcohol and he almost died more than 1 time because of it, the problem is that he doesnt wanna realize that hes wrong!
cdmjeeah 4 years ago
I drink..Im GUILTY.. Im an Alckhy.. Its my fault.. I Cant stop.. Shes right!!! Im not ready> I want healp.. so Ashamed of who i am!!.. I drink Cauze I hate myself!! Its my fault!!!
mrchainsaw708 4 years ago
Chainsaw - if you're an alky it's NOT because you're a bad person. It's because you're a sick person. Perhaps you think you HAVE TO drink. You do not. You DO NOT have to drink. There IS a remedy.
quickcap 4 years ago 2
I'll tell you what worked for me. I started going to AA meetings - still drinking, and thinking I had little hope. Kept going to meetings nevertheless. Had 3 hospitalizations, but kept going. After 3rd hospitalization never drank again. It was the AA really - something happened. For the next several years, I LIVED for AA meetings. Sober now- 38 years. Still attend.
quickcap 4 years ago
Can you tell us about your 'rock bottom'?
yourhumancondition 4 years ago
I've been thinking about making a rockbottom vid for a while now so I might just get off my arse and do it :)
manque15 4 years ago
Love your vid's, they are correct, God bless my friend. Keep up
Cheers Chris
Eenerdnarsirhc 4 years ago
how long were u an alcoholic for? like how many years?
mk6660 4 years ago
I still am an alcoholic, I just dont drink any more...I drank from the age of 16 to 32 before I stopped.
manque15 4 years ago
You are my idol. I respect you will power very much. Also you are a very beautiful woman, physically, mentally & spiritually. I admire you very much. Are you married?
brui3er 4 years ago
great blog, thankx for being honest. keep up the good work
hegsie1 4 years ago
what help would i get?
xRxixcxhxtxexrx 4 years ago
be more specific with your question...
manque15 4 years ago
You say there is no point in confronting and forcing an alcoholic person but who can watch someone close die or let them totally wear the people around them down on the other hand. "Shock therapy" with lots of friends and family gathered to force the person into admission is something that Ive heard can work. Anyone with experience with this who has some advice?
grimner77 4 years ago
Dang girl, keep it up.
tisaacso3625 4 years ago
I like the way americans say 'dang girl' lol ty
manque15 4 years ago
Poor girl. Has not a clue about AA's Tradition of Anonymity. Breaks the fellowship's Tradtions on so many levels, I don't know where to begin. Ego run riot, unfortunately. You need a real AA sponsor.
mainemoose88 4 years ago
Don't need one, don't go to AA anymore...but thanks for the input.
manque15 4 years ago
You speak so much sense and from the heart thankyou, by the way your also very pretty keep up the good work P.
paulsno1 4 years ago
Excellent second vid - I know what you mean about hearing other ppl 'telling your story' when it comes to alcoholism. I read the soccer star Tony Adams' book 'addicted' recently, even though I have nothing in common with this millonaire sports star when i he talked about his relationship with drink it was like seeing my thoughts on paper. Thanks again, God bless.
tripturnip 4 years ago
yw and thanks for the nice comment
V smile and have a nice day
manque15 4 years ago
I am tryin to quit......its taking my life away. Im glad for vids like this.
jumpyjedi 4 years ago
I have someone very close to me who I am trying to get to quit ....I can't even begin to tell you how your life will change (for the better) good luck to you, you definitely have me on your side rooting for you..V
manque15 4 years ago
Thanx for your share and advice , and for the smile...makes it easier ;)
tkatschuk 4 years ago
the good news when you give up booze,you get your emotions back,the bad news when you give up booze,you get your emotions back!i felt exactly how you felt when i first gave up alcohol,but i,m loving life without it now,thanks very much for your video,it will help so many of us.
dickiescants 4 years ago
lol I like the part about getting back your emotions...well said..ty for you support and comments
manque15 4 years ago
alcoholism is a nightmare rules and ruins lives alcohol does not care about colour, creed, wealth or gender, it affects all walks of life its a living hell, well their you have it. oh pretty top :-)
excavotoroperator 4 years ago
damn, now why couldn't I have said that!
thanks
cheers
V
manque15 4 years ago
Girl, I love you. You tell it just like it is. Alcohol is not racist. We come from all walks of life. I wish they would take it off the market but they make too much money off of us. Jail is full of alcohlics that are wonderful people. They count on us. Political influence to kill their own people and tax us for doing it. They love marketing it in every way possible. What a wonderful gift. Genocide in my opinion!
spellbound1955 4 years ago
well well well someone after my own heart ,...ty for watching and your input...greatly appreciated...and how true you are ...cheers vicky
manque15 4 years ago
Thanks for carrying the message. bobby c.
in2fun202 4 years ago
Thanks again. You are really putting things into perspective for me. I guess I'm in the acceptance phase, but not really sure where to go from there. I've been in the "acceptance" phase for years though...Either way, it's really amazing that you put yourself out here in cyber space for everyone to see. It takes a very strong person to admit a problem.
lawrencedez 4 years ago
Keep Coming Back? I do. And you helped me smile, thanks. Today, just for today I will ...
doninchelsea 5 years ago
thank you i needed this
otepadam 5 years ago
Have never given up drinking... Don't even get drunk anymore. Hasn't ruined anything, in fact, it has helped me support changes in my life which were necessary. Things that were making me unhealthy. I wont say that drinking saved me, but damn it was a nice crutch in the bad times and a damn good Celebratory thing when it got good.
conservaguy 5 years ago
D'ont be arrogant about it...consider yourself one of the lucky ones!
orangewizard 4 years ago
touche
manque15 4 years ago
You're doing great. Thank you for bringing me back to my first 3 months and that was 16 yrs ago. I'm here for you, too.
alphaba2 5 years ago
thank you everyone for your lovely comments...
manque15 5 years ago
Well done. I quit the same way you did. Just stopped. This past new years was my 10th year drink free. =) Anyway a very good video. Thanks for sharing
wolface02 5 years ago
good story and good luck.
Huckit 5 years ago