What in the world does this 'emo' shit and whatever people call you and whatever happens in your daily life have to do with Rites of Spring. Just say you love it, spare your 'oh idgaf what people call me im so emo' stories. Jeez.
A real emo doesn't call themself emo. And a real punk doesn't call themself a punk. So there's no point in putting 'I'm an emo and no I'm not a poseur so get over it' because you're still gonna get called a poseur, and saying 'I'm not a poseur' automatically assumes that you are one. It's bad enough calling yourself emo in the whole fucking first place-.-
ahh i love Rites Of Spring <3 ... YEAH so I'm 'emo' i wud be sort of lying if i said i wasn't scene or emo n that sort of stuff, so yeah I am .... PROBLEM?? :) ... cuz i get enough judgment in school anyway...
i tend to think that every a&r manufactured scene is essentially nu metal with a different dress code. ...it usually has to be stupid in order to be popular.
@blueamerican54 what are you talking about? rites of spring were one of the first emo bands... emo isn't short for post-hardcore. emo is short for all emotional hardcore.
This is what actual emo is, emotive hardcore. Major record label paid no attention to anythin like they always do and started labeling bands like MCR and Fall Out Boy as being emo eventhough they arent.
@ThatCRSBeat emo used to be based on lyrical content, not sound. It also was a derogatory term... and probably still should be now that it's a bunch of guys with eyeliner on talking about how sad they are.
@HorribleSexyDrunk people actually do....mexico 2008? several hundred emokids beaten, raped and had to go to hospital? People forget their roots, emo is a punk genre...but the old school punkers shoved us away, and now they cut our bangs like people used to do with the punkers mowhawk in 80s and 90s...it's just...sad....ignorance
@ScandinavianEmokid i dont think that has much to do with the genre, at least not the actual emo thing... what those people cant stand is the image of the "scene". and that is admittedly quite ridiculous, although beating them up for it goes too far.
@pumga the image? you mean like the "stereotypical" view of the emo culture or the "style" which is just a lighter version of goth? cause i don't understand that, the punkers/goths/metalheads tried to justify it by saying we stole their style when it was them that pushed us away, after all emo is punk, not real punk but sort of
@ScandinavianEmokid well, then its pretty much as i thought. while its definitely childish of those people to say you stole their style and beat you up for it, it shows that this is less about the music and the looks are more important to them. which is pathetic as well, but doesnt have much to do with the genre itself.
@pumga Agree, i haven't been beaten yet, but people still say "go cut yourself and cry in a corner you worthless wuss, go kill yourself nobody likes you, everyone wants you dead" words like that said repeatedly can cause damage, people should just leave us be, it's non of their business, and it's not that long ago people killed goths for being....goths. Kinda silly actually. I love punk, or some of it, The Distillers and The Casualties and Anti-Flag are quite awesome
@TheDouglasWinter i know. and somebody else already pointed that out.
however, i will not change the information because its not wrong. i only have the discography "End on End" from 1991, so i uploaded the track from that. and since i used that version, i state it as the source ;)
@pumga this was not in 91 i went to there show in 85 and i heard End on End, Drink Deep, and a couple others but i remember asking what the name of the song was
@DrWhiggs "I've never recognized "emo" as a genre of music. I always thought it was the most retarded term ever. I know there is this generic commonplace that every band that gets labeled with that term hates it. They feel scandalized by it. But honestly, I just thought that all the bands I played in were punk rock bands. The reason I think it's so stupid is that - what, like the Bad Brains weren't emotional? What - they were robots or something? It just doesn't make any sense to me."
@jorgbaits Too late! And Dashboard Confessional (or whatever) != emo. Both are shitty in their own ways.
And a low rung on the hardcore ladder that couldn't finish a set without breaking down and trashing their instruments isn't what thinking people would call "an awesome band."
Eh, I'm going with the critics on this one. It's good music. There will be always be kids who throw around the term 'emo' to belittle a form of music without actually making valid criticisms. I feel that music should be judged on things like musicianship and lyricism, not what genre it is.
we can really hear from the singing that this is not punk. yknow. The witch-like screaming(i'm not saying its bad), the way of singing. but instrumental-wise i think its pretty punk
The label emo was created by the same assholes who say it's bad to show emotion. Before emo was around, and someone was depressed, people didn't say 'Oh, don't be so emo'. They would ask what was wrong. And then bands and kids started to acknowledge emo as a label. That's when it all went to pot. :/
erm, reading the comments i realise that i might get ranted at for this..but due to lack of other words to use, i dont believe this sounds like typical "emo" music. sounds kinda like punk.
@pumga original emo was more of a punk offshoot. screamo originally was a heavier version of emo. and to an extent, screamo still is, being very technical and pretty much full screaming. post hardcore, melodic hardcore, metalcrore, etc. also came from hardcore punk. but original emo wasn't pop punk-esque like how it is now. emo=emocore= emotive hardcore
@gonzomc96 stereotypes idiot! it's all about the music. not all "emos" cut themselves and where their hair over their eyes, pop culture has twisted what was amazing music into a dumb trend that people follow to fit in.... ugh i hate mainstream
Of course I can properly express my self,but,pissing people off,well,that is something we are all guilty of,my friend.You see,you in fact have pissed me off,and I am sure,by the way you act so self righteous and "smarmy" I'm not the only one. ;)
dont you think talking to others in a non offending way is the basic of any discussion? if you dont even give people a chance, whats the point in telling them your opinion? why do you do that if you dont even want an answer?
or would you be satisfied if i didnt act "self righteous" and just told you "LOL you suck this band is awsum!!!11" ? that wouldnt get us anywhere, but perhaps you dont even want to get anywhere with this...
I would safely say that we are building quite the foundation for an interesting discussion,well it definitely intrigues me so that's all that matters.and when you say "my opinion" well,honey,that's the one that that I would be partial to the most.Hence the word MY!
Not only do I love Rites of Spring,but,I really don't know why you think I don't.I just made some comments on the whole EMO thing,whoever embraces this band while leaving the term out is fine by me,I mean can people just say this is a good band and stop trying to take away from the greatness by using an unholy word?hahaha emo!
at least you finally made a point ;) but this has been talked about so many times before... i think it would be better if people just left out words like emo and cared more about the music than what it is called as well, but obviously that wont happen. however that is no reason to make childish comments on youtube. that wont change anything and only annoy some others, especially people like me who like to keep their own comment sections clean.
i tought the real founding father of emo will sounded better than the posers these days...but this music is even GAYer than whatever u called emotive or scene or screamo death core...no offense...
for starters "emo" music is just stupid and stereotypical, think about, if you're a musican you're going to be emotional and passionate about what you do. so intern every musician is an "emo". "emo" doesnt mean a thing :)
2this is punk !emotional hardcore because yer cryin,ya pansy twat! you don't know the first thing about punk,but bein one in a jailhouse,you hot topic baby!
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i hate that one of my favorite PUNK bands is being labled "emo" ya know,all music is somewhat EMOtional,or it wouldn't move people in any way,so,fuck you!
oh really?so when Rites first started the band they were like,let's be an emoTIVE band,let's start a trend and have everyone analyze this music the n put it in a category.
NOPE!
they were like,let's rock the fuck out!
I really don't think they take any kind of Emo credit,so go to the mall and buy some over priced tight pants cut yerself call yer girl up cry about life and go suck some together!
Rites of Spring didnt call themselves emo but that doesnt mean that the genre doesnt exist. if people need the word to name that kind of music, let them have it. we all know its stupid because most music (at least the good stuff) is emotional. so what of it? the word metal sounds just as inappropriate when you connect it to music but nobody cares about that.
you can just call it punk if you want to... but stop wasting time writing unnecessary shit here.
Well, they're arguably the progenitors of the genre, so of course they didn't say "Let's start an emotive hardcore band", so I'll give you the "Let's rock the fuck out!" thing. And I prefer to go to Salvation Army to buy my underpriced clothes and listen to my progressive rock music. I listen to them out of the post hardcore links, not any "emo" links.
I've just discovered this old-school emo stuff, and I'm wondering what seperates this from 80s-90s punk? I've read that emo was just more melodic, but this doesn't sound much more melodic to me. Maybe you have to have an ear for it?
probably... im not good at putting bands in genres either, sometimes i find the differences between two bands in one genre bigger than the differences between two bands from different directions :P
Both evolved from the hardcore scene. Emo originally stood for "emotional hardcore", entailing a very similar sound, but with lyrics based more on personal emotional experience than political opinions or social commentary. While the sounds evolved later on, the only original difference was lyrical content. So emo became more melodic, but the original stuff like this was not. That said, I don't like labeling so specifically. If you like it, great, if not, thts fine too.
Finally an old school fan who likes the news stuff! Yeah there's shitty bands(I'm looking at CIWWAF and The Maine) but there's some really good bands like Brand New, Say Anything, Glassjaw, Thursday etc.
my english teacher said something about depression today and pointed in my direction. i dont think he did that on purpose but hey, i wear a black tshirt today so i fulfill the stereotype! :)
Like it or not, this is emo. Which was born from punk, which was born from rock which was born from blues which was born from black slave music which was born from pure emotion. It all comes full circle and it's all music, so who really cares right?
lol... it's funny how people call rites of spring emo, Rites of spring was an emotional hardcore band (meaning it's hardcore + emotional lyrics) and Guy said himself he has nothing to do with emo, and his band was never emo.
So emo twats, shut the hell up if you don't know shit.
Picciotto himself doesn't recognize the attribution of having "created" emo. When asked about it in an interview his response was, "I've never recognized "emo" as a genre of music. I always thought it was the most retarded term ever. I know there is this generic commonplace that every band that gets labeled with that term hates it. They feel scandalized by it
But honestly, I just thought that all the bands I played in were punk rock bands. The reason I think it's so stupid is that - what, like the Bad Brains weren't emotional? What - they were robots or something? It just doesn't make any sense to me."
if you go with that argument, not one single genre name makes sense. take "rock" for example: the bands dont use rocks as instruments... they dont sing about rocks... but people dont seem to be angry about it.
Minor Threat is hardcore punk you stupid ass hole.dont compare them to emo.ian macaye did later form fugazi who was kind of the start of emo,but it by no means is what emo is now adays.emo then was much closer to hardcore punk
oh come on dude... thats exactly the kind of emo were talking about, the old, true, pure, whatever type of emo. and just because macaye didnt like the term emo, it doesnt mean we cant use it to name a genre. its just a word, and if you use it right, its perfectly legit.
What in the world does this 'emo' shit and whatever people call you and whatever happens in your daily life have to do with Rites of Spring. Just say you love it, spare your 'oh idgaf what people call me im so emo' stories. Jeez.
AlmightyNoelle 2 weeks ago
Uhmm... Yeah, anyone wanna change the subject? Fuck it, Rites of Spring> little kids. Easy enough.
ExorciseYourDemons 4 weeks ago
@ExorciseYourDemons Should be Rites of Spring >>>>>>>> little whiney ass kids
AlmightyNoelle 2 weeks ago
Sorry it just annoys me when people call themselves emo and then say they're not a poseur so they automatically think they can get away with it-.-
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A real emo doesn't call themself emo. And a real punk doesn't call themself a punk. So there's no point in putting 'I'm an emo and no I'm not a poseur so get over it' because you're still gonna get called a poseur, and saying 'I'm not a poseur' automatically assumes that you are one. It's bad enough calling yourself emo in the whole fucking first place-.-
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xXPurplexNightmareXx 1 month ago
ahh i love Rites Of Spring <3 ... YEAH so I'm 'emo' i wud be sort of lying if i said i wasn't scene or emo n that sort of stuff, so yeah I am .... PROBLEM?? :) ... cuz i get enough judgment in school anyway...
xxIzziroarxx 2 months ago
Omg... :/
minischokokuchen 5 months ago
i tend to think that every a&r manufactured scene is essentially nu metal with a different dress code. ...it usually has to be stupid in order to be popular.
erethe 6 months ago
To clear this up, this is EMOCORE or EMOTIVE HARDCORE. "EMO" is short for EMOTIVE POST-HARDCORE.
Now we can fucking forget about it. Jesus fucking Christ.
blueamerican54 6 months ago 3
@blueamerican54 no we cannot... you know why? because you just said it again... as have maaany other people, and the comments about it never end xD
pumga 6 months ago 2
@pumga I don't understand how it's so goddamn important in the first place. If they really liked the music, they wouldn't care what the genre is.
blueamerican54 6 months ago
@blueamerican54 not much we can do about it. well, i could disable the comments, but whatever...
pumga 6 months ago
@blueamerican54
Well, after all I really give a damn about how its called. It sounds great no matter what genre it is.
prinzhuck 6 months ago
@blueamerican54 what are you talking about? rites of spring were one of the first emo bands... emo isn't short for post-hardcore. emo is short for all emotional hardcore.
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@zenafied Shut the fuck up. You don't know what you're talking about.
blueamerican54 5 months ago
This is what actual emo is, emotive hardcore. Major record label paid no attention to anythin like they always do and started labeling bands like MCR and Fall Out Boy as being emo eventhough they arent.
Gerawrdoo 6 months ago
I don't even see how this is considered emo? Sounds like straight punk to me
ThatCRSBeat 7 months ago 6
@ThatCRSBeat cuz your not suicidal enuff to get it!!!!!111
pumga 7 months ago 10
@pumga I suppose that's all it is lol
ThatCRSBeat 7 months ago
@ThatCRSBeat emo used to be based on lyrical content, not sound. It also was a derogatory term... and probably still should be now that it's a bunch of guys with eyeliner on talking about how sad they are.
commiekazeproject 7 months ago
@ThatCRSBeat true that, man, its all the same kaboodle to me, emo screamo, hardcore, i just say "i want to listen to punk rock."
magicalssbf 7 months ago
@ThatCRSBeat Because this is what emo ACTUALLY was before it shifted into a shitty stereotype.
aGasmaskProcession 7 months ago
@ThatCRSBeat the lyrics are based on emotion. listen to this song! so emotional!
XxdafunkxX 7 months ago
@ThatCRSBeat
because, its not. Emo was never really a style a music.
illuminatijews 7 months ago
@ThatCRSBeat uh, yeah. emo IS punk. it's not whatever fashiony shit media's been making it out to be.
zenafied 5 months ago
This is emo, emotive hardcore.
franmanification 8 months ago 3
Why give a fuck about genres? FUCK YOUR SCENE. Just listen to the god damn music.
loveriamloveless336 8 months ago
@loveriamloveless336 gaaah... these anti-genre comments are gettings just as annoying as the ones they criticize...
pumga 8 months ago 7
emo? who gives a fuck what it is. good music is good fucking music.
HorribleSexyDrunk 9 months ago
@HorribleSexyDrunk people actually do....mexico 2008? several hundred emokids beaten, raped and had to go to hospital? People forget their roots, emo is a punk genre...but the old school punkers shoved us away, and now they cut our bangs like people used to do with the punkers mowhawk in 80s and 90s...it's just...sad....ignorance
ScandinavianEmokid 8 months ago
@ScandinavianEmokid what are you talking about...?
HorribleSexyDrunk 8 months ago
@HorribleSexyDrunk that people actually care about genres
ScandinavianEmokid 8 months ago
@ScandinavianEmokid i dont think that has much to do with the genre, at least not the actual emo thing... what those people cant stand is the image of the "scene". and that is admittedly quite ridiculous, although beating them up for it goes too far.
pumga 8 months ago
@pumga the image? you mean like the "stereotypical" view of the emo culture or the "style" which is just a lighter version of goth? cause i don't understand that, the punkers/goths/metalheads tried to justify it by saying we stole their style when it was them that pushed us away, after all emo is punk, not real punk but sort of
ScandinavianEmokid 8 months ago
@ScandinavianEmokid well, then its pretty much as i thought. while its definitely childish of those people to say you stole their style and beat you up for it, it shows that this is less about the music and the looks are more important to them. which is pathetic as well, but doesnt have much to do with the genre itself.
pumga 8 months ago
@pumga Agree, i haven't been beaten yet, but people still say "go cut yourself and cry in a corner you worthless wuss, go kill yourself nobody likes you, everyone wants you dead" words like that said repeatedly can cause damage, people should just leave us be, it's non of their business, and it's not that long ago people killed goths for being....goths. Kinda silly actually. I love punk, or some of it, The Distillers and The Casualties and Anti-Flag are quite awesome
ScandinavianEmokid 8 months ago
Emo isn't about being gay or straight, it's a fucking view of life!
Just cause they didn't sing about politics doesn't mean they weren't fucking punk!
They were, and are, fucking badass!
StephDevotchka 11 months ago
enough with the sub-genre bullshit... THIS IS FUCKING PUNK!!!!!!
facefacts911 1 year ago 2
@facefacts911 ^This. Thank you. Fuck.
thebutcherhead 10 months ago
Hey i know i said some shit on other Rites of Spring vids but genreas and catagories are for award shows.
blueridger28 1 year ago
I hear a bit of the Adicts in there.... anyone else?
cryzen 1 year ago
@cryzen i can def here it too lolz
HorribleSexyDrunk 9 months ago
Emotive Hardcore. :)
darK3horizoNRising 1 year ago
*** Please update the post. **
This is from the self titled album "Rites of Spring" released on vinyl in June, 1985 as Dischord Records #16, this is Side One , Track 5.
The comp was released in1991, gets your facts STR8 before you post.
TheDouglasWinter 1 year ago
@TheDouglasWinter i know. and somebody else already pointed that out.
however, i will not change the information because its not wrong. i only have the discography "End on End" from 1991, so i uploaded the track from that. and since i used that version, i state it as the source ;)
pumga 1 year ago
@pumga this was not in 91 i went to there show in 85 and i heard End on End, Drink Deep, and a couple others but i remember asking what the name of the song was
Afrosamurai532 1 year ago
@Afrosamurai532 please guys.... just read some of the comments. you are just repeating stuff that has been discussed before ;)
pumga 1 year ago
People argue about emo and shit... Guy already said that the term "Emo" is retarded. Isn't all music emotional?
SkaPunk026 1 year ago
kids like to consider this emo because they desperately want their bullshit music choices to have some kind of historical backbone.
jorgbaits 1 year ago
@jorgbaits "Lyrically, they also shifted hardcore into intensely personal realms and, in doing so, are generally considered the first emo band."
Idiot, emo is an offshoot of hardcore.
DrWhiggs 1 year ago
@DrWhiggs "I've never recognized "emo" as a genre of music. I always thought it was the most retarded term ever. I know there is this generic commonplace that every band that gets labeled with that term hates it. They feel scandalized by it. But honestly, I just thought that all the bands I played in were punk rock bands. The reason I think it's so stupid is that - what, like the Bad Brains weren't emotional? What - they were robots or something? It just doesn't make any sense to me."
-picciotto
jorgbaits 1 year ago 4
@jorgbaits So the singer was unaware he was doing something different.
Your point?
DrWhiggs 1 year ago
@DrWhiggs My point? an awesome band being recognized for starting one of the most putrid genres of music, thats fucking insulting.
i'm not going to keep fucking bickering with you over youtube.
jorgbaits 1 year ago
@jorgbaits Too late! And Dashboard Confessional (or whatever) != emo. Both are shitty in their own ways.
And a low rung on the hardcore ladder that couldn't finish a set without breaking down and trashing their instruments isn't what thinking people would call "an awesome band."
DrWhiggs 1 year ago
fuck all you the revolution will cleanse the multidimensional universe of you fucking slags
the descendants kick the rites of springs ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thats the fuckin prophecy nigga
diewithyouagain 1 year ago
@pumga your replies are clever. Great song too, thanks for putting it up.
straightXjessedge 1 year ago
ahhh, guy picciotto, u always know the right words to say to lead to a massive ear-gasm
XxAdTrFrEaKiNrOcKsXx 1 year ago
i just love how people call me emo and all i say is´´´i´m huma not music´´ and they cant say anything back.*evil laugh*
katsoja94 1 year ago
@katsoja94 I say poseur *evil laugh*
666deathghost 1 year ago
come on now kids...
trapset9 1 year ago
Next time someone says i'm emo, i know how to reply. Them: "you're Emo."
Me: "I'm Rites of Spring, an awesome band? Psht, yeah, okay. I'm down with that. They're awesome."
AndreaEatsRainbows 1 year ago
@AndreaEatsRainbows epic
katsoja94 1 year ago
Eh, I'm going with the critics on this one. It's good music. There will be always be kids who throw around the term 'emo' to belittle a form of music without actually making valid criticisms. I feel that music should be judged on things like musicianship and lyricism, not what genre it is.
tegustajazz 1 year ago
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This is fucking queer. Emos are gay. Kill yourselves.
Vicarious99 1 year ago
@Vicarious99 im way too sad to do it myself.... can you help me?
pumga 1 year ago 23
@Vicarious99 and based on your attitude so are you.
cartmammainia 1 year ago
@Vicarious99 This user is a total douche. He's a homophobe. Go kill yourself.
LibertineObscene 1 year ago
@LibertineObscene the irony would be awesome ^^
pumga 1 year ago
@Vicarious99 Emos? Lol Emo is a music style, not a clothing style. So fuck up dipshit. Your gay so go fuck yourself and die
razamaer 1 year ago
@razamaer aaah.. "emo" cant be used to insult somebody, but "gay" can? i sense hypocrisy ;)
pumga 1 year ago 17
@pumga I love emo music and Don't be a gay basher Cuase i am bisexual and i think gays kick ass xD
kingdomheartsoraaxel 1 year ago
@Vicarious99 this song is lame but i wouldnt tell someone to kill over it retard
madbar01 1 year ago
@madbar01 I'd kill you for a Klondike Bar. Served.
Vicarious99 1 year ago
Great song, great band!!
rocknroll909 1 year ago
Why is everyone always dissing on elmo? Yeah he can't sing very well, but that's because he's A PUPPET!!!!
Stinkypinky220 1 year ago 4
@Stinkypinky220 OMGWTFBBQ he is?
pumga 1 year ago
we can really hear from the singing that this is not punk. yknow. The witch-like screaming(i'm not saying its bad), the way of singing. but instrumental-wise i think its pretty punk
yihd 1 year ago
NOT EMO.
TheTannerandBrandon 1 year ago
@TheTannerandBrandon yes emo, sodeal with it!
springawakenedme 1 year ago
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EmoLizard777 1 year ago
The label emo was created by the same assholes who say it's bad to show emotion. Before emo was around, and someone was depressed, people didn't say 'Oh, don't be so emo'. They would ask what was wrong. And then bands and kids started to acknowledge emo as a label. That's when it all went to pot. :/
electroxjunkie 1 year ago 8
erm, reading the comments i realise that i might get ranted at for this..but due to lack of other words to use, i dont believe this sounds like typical "emo" music. sounds kinda like punk.
paulmason7 1 year ago 2
i think thats because this was one of the first bands to play emo, so i guess its still really close to the "normal" punk.
and you wont get ranted for that... i hope.
pumga 1 year ago
@pumga original emo was more of a punk offshoot. screamo originally was a heavier version of emo. and to an extent, screamo still is, being very technical and pretty much full screaming. post hardcore, melodic hardcore, metalcrore, etc. also came from hardcore punk. but original emo wasn't pop punk-esque like how it is now. emo=emocore= emotive hardcore
kyle892 1 year ago 7
@kyle892 yes, i know that. was that comment for someone else? ;)
pumga 1 year ago
@paulmason7 i was thinkin the same thing. I know what punk sounds like, and this sounds like it
DizzyLizzyLockheart 1 year ago
how the fuck did this make people cut themselves and have hair over their eyes(create the first emos) ?? anyone
gonzomc96 2 years ago
thats easy... i did not.
pumga 1 year ago
it didn't
those people are
not like this
music5freak5 1 year ago
@gonzomc96 stereotypes idiot! it's all about the music. not all "emos" cut themselves and where their hair over their eyes, pop culture has twisted what was amazing music into a dumb trend that people follow to fit in.... ugh i hate mainstream
springawakenedme 1 year ago
@gonzomc96 it didnt. the medias views on it did.
UniqueGirlXliving 1 year ago
Shut up about the fucking emo and just enjoy the fucking music, mates. :)
RaWrMunch101 2 years ago 3
Of course I can properly express my self,but,pissing people off,well,that is something we are all guilty of,my friend.You see,you in fact have pissed me off,and I am sure,by the way you act so self righteous and "smarmy" I'm not the only one. ;)
orb2150tx 2 years ago
dont you think talking to others in a non offending way is the basic of any discussion? if you dont even give people a chance, whats the point in telling them your opinion? why do you do that if you dont even want an answer?
or would you be satisfied if i didnt act "self righteous" and just told you "LOL you suck this band is awsum!!!11" ? that wouldnt get us anywhere, but perhaps you dont even want to get anywhere with this...
pumga 2 years ago
I would safely say that we are building quite the foundation for an interesting discussion,well it definitely intrigues me so that's all that matters.and when you say "my opinion" well,honey,that's the one that that I would be partial to the most.Hence the word MY!
orb2150tx 2 years ago
Not only do I love Rites of Spring,but,I really don't know why you think I don't.I just made some comments on the whole EMO thing,whoever embraces this band while leaving the term out is fine by me,I mean can people just say this is a good band and stop trying to take away from the greatness by using an unholy word?hahaha emo!
orb2150tx 2 years ago
at least you finally made a point ;) but this has been talked about so many times before... i think it would be better if people just left out words like emo and cared more about the music than what it is called as well, but obviously that wont happen. however that is no reason to make childish comments on youtube. that wont change anything and only annoy some others, especially people like me who like to keep their own comment sections clean.
pumga 2 years ago
also, i didnt say that you dont like Rites of Spring, i just wanted to give an example of a stupid comment.
pumga 2 years ago
i tought the real founding father of emo will sounded better than the posers these days...but this music is even GAYer than whatever u called emotive or scene or screamo death core...no offense...
cuprumetalhead 2 years ago
if you dont mean to offend, use words that are not offending ;) "gay" hardly describes music...
pumga 2 years ago
Sorry for that word.. :P
cuprumetalhead 2 years ago
That is so funny! It's sooooo GAY! lmfao!
orb2150tx 2 years ago
would you please grow up?
pumga 2 years ago
hey then why are you watching it and leaving feedback?
ThisisPunk 2 years ago
for starters "emo" music is just stupid and stereotypical, think about, if you're a musican you're going to be emotional and passionate about what you do. so intern every musician is an "emo". "emo" doesnt mean a thing :)
jakesnirvana1967 2 years ago
i wonder why so many people dont understand that.
i also wonder why there's people like you who have to point it out again and again :D
pumga 2 years ago
emotional hardcore
ThisisPunk 2 years ago
2this is punk !emotional hardcore because yer cryin,ya pansy twat! you don't know the first thing about punk,but bein one in a jailhouse,you hot topic baby!
orb2150tx 2 years ago
jerk...
pumga 2 years ago
Whoa man. Get off the speed.
Also I want to bomb the malls not congregate in them.
ThisisPunk 2 years ago
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i hate that one of my favorite PUNK bands is being labled "emo" ya know,all music is somewhat EMOtional,or it wouldn't move people in any way,so,fuck you!
orb2150tx 2 years ago
okaaay!
pumga 2 years ago
Pumga,what the hell r u? the fucking youtube police? U crack me up!
orb2150tx 2 years ago
and what are you? some annoying idiot who cant express his opinion properly and has to piss other people off?
if you have something meaningfull to say, surely you can do so without being a dick to everyone else.
pumga 2 years ago
@orb2150tx je suis desole mate but you are a cunt
ThisisPunk 2 years ago
Rites of Spring is emotive hardcore, and offshoot of post hardcore, an offshoot of hardcore punk. Deal with it.
spynae 2 years ago 2
oh really?so when Rites first started the band they were like,let's be an emoTIVE band,let's start a trend and have everyone analyze this music the n put it in a category.
NOPE!
they were like,let's rock the fuck out!
I really don't think they take any kind of Emo credit,so go to the mall and buy some over priced tight pants cut yerself call yer girl up cry about life and go suck some together!
orb2150tx 2 years ago
what the fucking hell is wrong with you?!
Rites of Spring didnt call themselves emo but that doesnt mean that the genre doesnt exist. if people need the word to name that kind of music, let them have it. we all know its stupid because most music (at least the good stuff) is emotional. so what of it? the word metal sounds just as inappropriate when you connect it to music but nobody cares about that.
you can just call it punk if you want to... but stop wasting time writing unnecessary shit here.
pumga 2 years ago
Well, they're arguably the progenitors of the genre, so of course they didn't say "Let's start an emotive hardcore band", so I'll give you the "Let's rock the fuck out!" thing. And I prefer to go to Salvation Army to buy my underpriced clothes and listen to my progressive rock music. I listen to them out of the post hardcore links, not any "emo" links.
spynae 2 years ago
<333333
screamtolastbreath 2 years ago
it's funny, on every rites of spring song, people argue about emo lol
SchiamaShade1 2 years ago 41
its the first law of musical elitism... discuss the genre xD
pumga 2 years ago
true, true
SchiamaShade1 2 years ago
@SchiamaShade1 they do because everybody says rites of spring was one of the first emo bands.
xxNeverGiveIn 1 year ago
I've just discovered this old-school emo stuff, and I'm wondering what seperates this from 80s-90s punk? I've read that emo was just more melodic, but this doesn't sound much more melodic to me. Maybe you have to have an ear for it?
musicmine3000 2 years ago
probably... im not good at putting bands in genres either, sometimes i find the differences between two bands in one genre bigger than the differences between two bands from different directions :P
pumga 2 years ago
Both evolved from the hardcore scene. Emo originally stood for "emotional hardcore", entailing a very similar sound, but with lyrics based more on personal emotional experience than political opinions or social commentary. While the sounds evolved later on, the only original difference was lyrical content. So emo became more melodic, but the original stuff like this was not. That said, I don't like labeling so specifically. If you like it, great, if not, thts fine too.
sas556 2 years ago 2
These guys took the hardcore punk of the 80's and gave it more introspective and emotional lyrics.
DatWonGuy 2 years ago
got to be honest this sounds more like punk than emo to me but still love it
amanwitnoplan1 2 years ago
The only good kind of emo... I wish emo didnt suck these days...
gamerfreak666 2 years ago 3
come on, there are still some really good bands. they might not play the old style, but theres good stuff out there...
pumga 2 years ago
Finally an old school fan who likes the news stuff! Yeah there's shitty bands(I'm looking at CIWWAF and The Maine) but there's some really good bands like Brand New, Say Anything, Glassjaw, Thursday etc.
drogaz1 2 years ago
i like some of the new bands too and i love old school emo bands like this.
TheMattSpaulding 2 years ago
someone called me emo the other day. im like " how the hell am i emotive hardcore?"
wingedwolf75 2 years ago 7
yeah i dont get it either...
my english teacher said something about depression today and pointed in my direction. i dont think he did that on purpose but hey, i wear a black tshirt today so i fulfill the stereotype! :)
pumga 2 years ago
Classic emo LOve it!
sourskully 2 years ago
I just know i like this sond is all, emo or not i don't really give one.
stevieluck 2 years ago
thats the spirit xD
pumga 2 years ago
Like it or not, this is emo. Which was born from punk, which was born from rock which was born from blues which was born from black slave music which was born from pure emotion. It all comes full circle and it's all music, so who really cares right?
metal1985 2 years ago 42
stop trying to simplify things it doesn't help.
Davidsfatbody 2 years ago
emotion is something that can blind you.
Davidsfatbody 2 years ago
ORLY?!
pumga 2 years ago
uh..
..anon..?
bowdownandobey 2 years ago
@metal1985
THAT.IS.SO.FUCKING.TRUE.
weroxthisplanet 1 year ago
lol... it's funny how people call rites of spring emo, Rites of spring was an emotional hardcore band (meaning it's hardcore + emotional lyrics) and Guy said himself he has nothing to do with emo, and his band was never emo.
So emo twats, shut the hell up if you don't know shit.
SkaPunk026 2 years ago
picciotto didnt like the word... so what? people want to give that kind of music a more specific name, whats the problem?
i would be more concerned about modern bands taking the term emo and bastardizing it to make a profit...
pumga 2 years ago
Picciotto himself doesn't recognize the attribution of having "created" emo. When asked about it in an interview his response was, "I've never recognized "emo" as a genre of music. I always thought it was the most retarded term ever. I know there is this generic commonplace that every band that gets labeled with that term hates it. They feel scandalized by it
SkaPunk026 2 years ago
But honestly, I just thought that all the bands I played in were punk rock bands. The reason I think it's so stupid is that - what, like the Bad Brains weren't emotional? What - they were robots or something? It just doesn't make any sense to me."
SkaPunk026 2 years ago
if you go with that argument, not one single genre name makes sense. take "rock" for example: the bands dont use rocks as instruments... they dont sing about rocks... but people dont seem to be angry about it.
pumga 2 years ago
That couldn't be more retarded... Honestly.
SkaPunk026 2 years ago
well, then i dont know what to say...
call it punk, nobody will hate you. but emo has been used for a few years, so.. well... you cant do much against it anymore, as stupid as it may be.
pumga 2 years ago
you are aaaaall welcome..
pumga 2 years ago
watz ur def ef emo? this amaze meh
gymnastixfreak98 2 years ago
wut? :D
pumga 2 years ago
love it
LarissaLIBERTY 2 years ago
how come nobody is arguing about fall out boy? you guys used to love arguing about fall out boy!!!!!
drgonzito613 2 years ago
maybe it became boring?
the world screams for a new crappy mainstream pop act claiming to be emo! :D
pumga 2 years ago
They dont call themselves emo. their not that bad but............ all the same. people are retarted and changed the definition of emo
wingedwolf75 2 years ago
yeah that was the good old time when emo was good...
n3cromant1s 2 years ago
what do you mean? theres still good emo today =P
pumga 2 years ago
Oldschool Emo punk was awesome.
It wasn't a brand. It wasn't a product. It was just a message.
AdvancedBiff 2 years ago 5
exactly
psychochickenkiller 2 years ago
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WoW This is the true emo *_*
Bakke95 2 years ago
moar liek AWESUM amirite?
pumga 2 years ago
More like punk IMO...
mutantpig08 2 years ago
true pure emocore...I love it....just love it...but I do like modern emo but I drift off with this
sourskully 2 years ago
Minor Threat was against wearing bell bottoms!
They only drank water and, ate potato chips.
They enjoyed playing video games and, slam danced to the television.
They were real, man!
MrPotatoesLatkie 2 years ago
Minor Threat is hardcore punk you stupid ass hole.dont compare them to emo.ian macaye did later form fugazi who was kind of the start of emo,but it by no means is what emo is now adays.emo then was much closer to hardcore punk
ShouldntBEalowd2MATE 2 years ago
oh come on dude... thats exactly the kind of emo were talking about, the old, true, pure, whatever type of emo. and just because macaye didnt like the term emo, it doesnt mean we cant use it to name a genre. its just a word, and if you use it right, its perfectly legit.
pumga 2 years ago
why is rites of spring emo and bands like minor threat not? i don't understand the term.
terrybansuckit 2 years ago