Pregnant Women and Mothers Deserve Better

[HugoBodenham]

hahah fuck you

[copeastedic]

I think that its wrong for anyone to take or steal a life no matter how big or small.

[nate12387]

Where are the statistics coming from?

[EchoStar246]

I find it humorous that the "men" in this video are talking about abortions. Men shouldn't really get to say what they "believe" about abortion, because their the ones that cause the unwanted pregnancy in the first place. If a women is raped, and wants and abortion, who are men to decide that? Honestly, men need to shut up for once in a while

[bobbythefatass]

in a way though having a abortion IS killing a unborn baby is it really that hard to not have sex? hell no just bull shit and lies to find a way to have sex. DONT HAVE A KID UNLESS UR PREPARED!! I wont call u a murderen thug or somthin if u had a abortion but still its not a very humane thing to do.

[mistymiss83]

Tha's the fact: that they are MURDERERS!!!! Sorry, but if you don't want to be told that you are a baby murdering Nazi fornicator, you shouldn't have had sex if you weren't reaady to be a mom! I know each time that me and my husband have sex that I might become a mom again, but that's okay because I know God won't give us more than we can handle, even if it seems like it's impossible. It's not! I love my kids and my husband and I'm not some crazy prochoicer who resents them for tying me down!

[bobbythefatass]

thats a tottaly dumbass thing o say dont bring god into the matters of abortion. when u blame god when u do it 15 times and "god" gives u 15 kids an u start complainin that u have too many children its not gods fault!! STOP TRYIN TO FIND EXCUSES TO NOT USE A CONDOM!

[ExecutorJoe]

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i kinda have to agree little w/ bluefirelily85 (now hear me out).

broken logic. Miscarriages are Horrible things, my mother had one, my sister inlaw had one. Its defined as "a natural loss of the products of conception". no one will call you a Nazi because your baby died. Someone might call the process of abortion "wrongful death" or murder, if they see the unborn baby as a human being.

49,551,703 american abortions.

china, 13mill a year.

they, out of passion. call this Genocide.

[SuperHappyPuppy]

I had an abortion because I wanted to be a good mother. I already had a child I was struggling to support. It was the right decision. My daughter is a wonderful person. If I had had another baby (with the wrong guy, incidentally), her life would have been a lot harder. I am so glad a safe, legal abortion was available to me!

[angelshoulders]

Women who have had abortions are 2.4 times more likely to abuse the children they "want"(Study Citation: Priscilla K. Coleman, Charles D. Maxey, Vincent M. Rue, and Catherine T. Coyle, Associations between voluntary and involuntary forms of pregnancy loss and child maltreatment among low-income mothers, Acta Paediatrica 94, 2005.) Just to name one of several studies

[jennfarrsuperstar]

FAIL

[MileyCyrusVideos23]

im against abortion and i think that whaterver organization this is...they're only trying to find some kind of excuse saying that we're calling them "murderers" and all that. I think that these women who are supposedly "mothers" should just keep there legs closed...the world needs that! why don't people stop going after earthly desires...it's just stupid and irresponsible!!

[angelshoulders]

Miley...Wonderfully stated! BRAVO!

[jennfarrsuperstar]

I was kinda wishy-washy on Choice until I got pregnant . Now I believe that a woman should have 100% control over her reproductive health. This video is great!

[angelshoulders]

jenn...How could having a beautiful, precious new living human being, brought into your world in your likeness, with your eyes, your love have turned you into a prochoice mother?!?

[jennfarrsuperstar]

angelshoulders... the whole point of the above video and campaign is to let women tell their stories. You have no right to question or judge me.

I trust women.

[ExecutorJoe]

i personally am against abortion.

but calling them nazi's is wrong.

i Do think its a a killing of innocent life. mothers or not, they are ending life.

im not saying Abortion is never an option, i just think it should be a last resort. and Mothers, after haveing child, they should feel worse, knowing they aborted a little baby sister, or baby brother, to their other child/children.

calling them on par with hitler, is also wrong.

[SuperHappyPuppy]

Women who have already had a child know how hard it is to be a parent. That's why they often choose NOT to have another. Maybe if mothers in our culture received more support, there would be fewer abortions.

[ExecutorJoe]

choosing not to be a Parent dosnt always = Abortion.

it ='s a few things,

1. Not having Intercourse

2. Takeing a Pill.

3. Condom.

4. adoption. ect.

tho- i do agree. if Women in our Culture had more Support, the abortion rate would drop.

[SuperHappyPuppy]

Well, maybe you should tell your pro-lifer friends that people need medically accurate sex education and access to birth control. How about it? Cuz last I heard, the prolifers want ABSTINENCE ONLY SEX EDUCATION, and they want to block access to birth control as well.

[ExecutorJoe]

I agree. Birth Control access should not be blocked.

But, at the same time, condoms shouldn't be handed out to 15 year old boys. Our Culture is having alot to do with underage pregnancy's. If Children weren't exposed to music videos with half naked women dry humping, men who sing about, and act as if Women are Objects.

abstinence is as safe as it gets(i mean honestly). Im not telling people to be nuns and priests. But Children becoming preggers at 14 is wrong. you have to agree with that.

[SuperHappyPuppy]

Actually, having sex with people of your same gender NEVER leads to pregnancy either, so why don't we promote that, alongside abstinence?

[ExecutorJoe]

some cultures promote that.

but it does lead to STDs and a much higher rate.

and i agree. if a fag screws is boyfriend, the chances of him getting preggers is like 0%. so... what are you proving?

[SuperHappyPuppy]

Just proving how careless some of these statements are. But what can you expect from people who are home-schooled?

[ExecutorJoe]

okay;

but What does homeschooling have to do with homosexuality? or Abortion? or underage Pregnancy?

[SuperHappyPuppy]

A lot, actually. Home-schooled morons tend to believe that homosexuality and abortion are evil, and that Pregnancy should always be capitalized.

[ExecutorJoe]

its simply because in America. 98% of home schooling family's are Christians. Christianity and every other major religion is against abortions. many Christians have had abortions, But the fact is, 99 churches out of 100 will tell you abortion is killing of innocent life.

so perhaps its not Home Schooling you are angry at. Its Most likely Religious People?

[SuperHappyPuppy]

Tell me, do, how do you know that 99 churches out of 100 will tell you abortion is killing of innocent life? And I love some Religious People (love the CAPS, too!). I love me some Muslims, no question.

[ExecutorJoe]

it might be 98,97,96,95%. doesn't matter to me, its not like they take polls. so it would be impossible to figure.

but the fact is, a EXTREME Majority of home schooled kids have Christian parents. and tend to share the family's views on such things as abortion and Homosexuality. every home schooling family i know calls themselves Christians (and i know a great many,).

im just trying to inform you that its not Homeschooling that you Hate, its Christianity.

hope i didn't burst your bubble-

[SuperHappyPuppy]

The homeschooling may be responsible for their prejudices, but it's also responsible for a remarkable low level of literary. THAT's what I was commenting on.

[ExecutorJoe]

your mistaken.

and hearing you spout hate is rather pathetic.

the facts are, they on average, test better then Public Schooled children. an Extremely lower underage pregnancy rate. The Suicides and Drug/alcohol overdoses are almost not existent vs Public schooling.

you simply hate them because most of them are Christians, and think that abortion is a sin.

They have rights to disagree with 'abortion'. that doesn't make them stupid. But, you saying those things about them; makes you a Bigot

[ExecutorJoe]

grammar Nazi. and a hater.

im done with you.

[SuperHappyPuppy]

Tragic. Wow, how will I ever recover from the rejection? I may not even see "your" misused enough times to begin to think it's normal. Dreadful.

[ExecutorJoe]

lol Bigot.

'reproducing at a rapid pace' Haha. Simply because you are pro abortion doesn't mean you should try forcing your ideology on others. Hating People because of Religious morals and "having children", that's just plain sick.

If Public schools didn't have such a high failure rating, along with its underage pregnancy and Illegal Drug use. Less Home schoolers would be 'prowling the streets'!

Parents take their kids out of public schools, for these reasons. Is that wrong?

[SuperHappyPuppy]

@ExecutorJoe How about this:  I won't force my ideology on others if they won't force theirs on me? I can live with that!

[ExecutorJoe]

@SuperHappyPuppy

good, something we can agree with.

Anti Abortion people are just as bad as Pro Abortion People.

[SuperHappyPuppy]

@ExecutorJoe The Pro-abortion people don't try to prevent people from having babies. Have you ever seen a bunch of prochoicers blocking the sidewalk outside a maternity ward?

[ExecutorJoe]

@SuperHappyPuppy yes, and that place is called China. Forced abortions are not uncommon, in many parts of the world.

in America, we have mothers who drown 3month old children in bathtubs or starve them to death. Would you also argue pro choice in that situation?

doc's who preform illegal late-term abortions abortions, are killing innocent life. no?

dumpster babies and back alley abortions are wrong. yes?

as are bombing Abortion Clinics and murdering Doctors. life is life.

[SuperHappyPuppy]

@ExecutorJoe Actually, the prochoice movement in America, which is associated with feminism, doesn't support forced abortion. The driving forced behind China's population control measures is not reproductive freedom for women, but population control. And they may be on to something, with their practical approach to governing their country, since they can buy and sell America now.

[ExecutorJoe]

your mistaken.

and hearing you spout hate is rather pathetic.

the facts are, they on average, test better then Public Schooled children. an Extremely lower underage pregnancy rate. The Suicides and Drug/alcohol overdoses are almost not existent vs Public schooling.

you simply hate them because most of them are Christians, and think that abortion is a sin.

They have rights to disagree with 'abortion'. that doesn't make them stupid. But, you saying those things about them; makes you a Bigot

[SuperHappyPuppy]

You're, not "your. Than, not "then." No need to capitalize Public Schooled. No need to capitalize extremely, suicides, drug. It's nonexistent, not not existent. Their extremely low literacy skills are disheartening, as are yours. I don't particularly hate them. But unfortunately, they are stupid. Oh, and that semi-colon? It was used in a completely incorrect way.

[ExecutorJoe]

Btw. what do u mean by Medically Accurate Sex Education.

"if a penis is inside you, no matter how slim the chance is, Pregnancy can be a side-affect."

pills are like 97-99% (if other meds dont counter act)

Condoms are 98 percent effective (if it dosnt Rip, or get a hole).

I dont want teens being told "HEY USE A PILL, It has never gotten anyone pregnant, be safe, condoms work every time"

Couples on both (Pills and Rubbers) are less likely to have kids, but still, it has happened.

[SuperHappyPuppy]

Are you nuts? Medically accurate sex education is when they DON'T lie to the kids. I.e., comprehensive, medically accurate sexuality education covers the wide array of topics that affect sexuality and sexual health. It is grounded in evidence-based, peer-reviewed science. Its goal is to promote health and well-being in a way that is developmentally appropriate. It includes information and communication skills building as well as values exploration.

[ExecutorJoe]

am i nuts? Perhaps.

Im Trying to figure out why u think teens are being thought lies when it comes to Sex.

And, im also alittle confused. I not sure why you think my statement was 'nuts'.

[angelshoulders]

Why should a man spend his life in prison for killing someone during an uncharacteristic & provoked rage when women who abort after a period of 'thoughtful deliberation' KNOWING that they are taking the life of a human individual suffer no legal penalties?I propose universal amnesty for all criminals until at least the abortionists themselves are treated under the law the same as any other serial killer,hit man & child abuser! Equal Justice Under The Law!!!!!

[bobbythefatass]

i think the reason is that its better to have a unborn baby than to have a baby that suffers from child abuse or neglegt

[angelshoulders]

By that same thought,should we not also kill the poor,the depressed, the children starving in Africa,or anyone else who suffers?After all,in OUR estimation their lives are not worth living,it's just too painful for them.Oh,they disagree?Well, they just aren't smart enough to know what's good for them! so shut down the soup kitchens and the humanitarian aid! let us take up arms and seek the suffering of the world, that we may release them from their valueless lives in a hale of gunfire!

[bobbythefatass]

what u r sayin is plain murder. the difference is, by having a abortion is the baby is saved from all sorts of shit that would probobly happen to it. being born by a 14 year old isnt the perfect life.

[bobbythefatass]

and closing down all help to other places isnt a good idea.

[SkyBlu3Android92]

@bobbythefatass i agree with you 100% on that.

[ExecutorJoe]

It seems to me, that you simply want to make fun of Christians, Homeschoolers, Pro lifers, and my youtube grammar. Rather then getting back on subject.

Are you getting off to this? Because the majority of youtube videos have grammatical errors. And you act as if it was a big deal. Get over yourself, or stay on subject.

I wanted a pleasant debate, not someone raising hell over Capitalization. Perhaps thats a sign of someone who has lost?

but anyhoo

u dun did hurted mah' fealinz, (:})

[SuperHappyPuppy]

Unfortunately Joe, it's not just your grammar skills that are lacking. You're also completely missing the point. My point is, HOMESCHOOLERS ARE POORLY EDUCATED! They can't communicate clearly or think coherently. That's why they think birth control and first term abortion are murder. The idiots are reproducing at a rapid pace, sorry to see.

[SuperHappyPuppy]

'If a penis is inside you, no matter how slim the chance is, Pregnancy [sic] can be a side-affect [sic]" . NOT IF YOU'RE A MAN!!

[angelshoulders]

We resent that the value of a woman is determined by whether some man wants us, yet we declare that the value of an unborn child is determined by whether someone wants him. We resent that as women we have been 'owned' by our husbands, yet insist that the unborn are 'owned' by us. We believe that a man's right to do what he pleases with his own body cannot include the right to sexually exploit women, yet proclaim a our similar right means we can kill our unborn child

[angelshoulders]

One of the arguments used to support legalising abortion was that it would decrease 'unwanted'children,thus child abuse. Time has proven this to be incorrect. In the first 10yrs. after abortion was legalized in the U.S.,child abuse increased by over 500%. Unprecedented rate!!  Legal abortion made it o.k. to see our 'wants' to be more important then children's needs!!

[angelshoulders]

Interesting point...Joycelyn Elders,past Surgeon General of the United States, after encouraging schools to pass condoms out, was asked by a reporter,"If your daughter had a boyfriend who tested positive for AIDS & you & she both knew it, would you let her have sex with him while using a condom?" Elders exclaimed, "Absolutely not!!" Why, because sex w/AIDS man ALWAYS=possibility of AIDS!! Sex ALWAYS=possibility of pregnancy!!

[jennfarrsuperstar]

exactly!

[bluefirelily85]

Wow that movie had really faulty logic supporting it. I think it would do a lot better for the pro-choice side if it wasn't based on 1st-grade logic.

[MileyCyrusVideos23]

i agree also

[Progo35]

This doesn't address why people oppose abortion in any realistic way. First of all, the people commenting in those clips were talking about late term abortion, not abortion in general. A

D and E, for instance, is a lot more "gruesome" at least from this side of the picture, than a D and V/A performed at 9 weeks. Whether someone is a mother already has no relevance to the abortion debate in terms of whether abortion is fundamentally right or wrong.

[mizjessianne]

This comment doesn't seem very relevant to this video. The video isn't trying to address why people oppose abortion. It's addressing the language used by anti-abortion extremists that call women who have abortions murderers and compare them to genocidal maniacs. The fact is that the people who are really creating and nurturing a culture of life - mothers - are the majority of people who get abortions. Whether or not we believe abortion is ok, we would all do well to keep this in mind.

[MileyCyrusVideos23]

i totally agree with you