This rings a bell, and that is high school teachers. God how I fucking hate them, if you want to see people that Noam talks about in this video then look no further than high school teachers. It's probably the same with university teachers, but the thing is the high school teachers take orders from above, so you can't change their mind at all. Especially when you're in an institution and you have to follow all these procedures that you become a maniac completely divorced from reality.
Yeah I agree!! Universities are a bit better but most schooling is psychopathic. The students have almost no say in what they are to study, the stuff is just drilled into their minds like they're robots, and no say at all in the way the school and the classroom is to be run, they aren't even consulted by their teachers as to what rules there should be in the classroom, the Master is to decide of everything arbitrarily, doesn't even have to explain what rules
he can punish anyone at a whim, and punish you extra-badly if you speak out against injustice, there's no checks and balance whatsoever over his power. That teaches the children great values: submission, obedience, hypocrisy, acceptance of injustice, conformism and survival under boredom. (i mean why not let the children decide of the rules and have a class council of rotatable members enabling the children themselves to resolve most disputes?
That would teach responsibility, civility, respect, politeness, self-confidence, fairness..) The school authorities can ban freedom of speech and movement like they see fit, persecute thoughtcriminals, even decide what people wear, the school is fenced off, bell rings tell people where they should be at at every moment like in a prison, there's constant surveillance, any kind of privacy or intimacy is suppressed hysterically.
A good school is a well-run concentration camp minus the torture chambers. Schooling destroys children, half of them leave barely litterate or totally fucked up in their heads. It's really terrible.
It doesn't have to be that way, there are other ways of teaching children, e.g. see that for example: watch?v=RFRT9JKGPcI
@PavedStones ["Schooling destroys children, half of them leave barely litterate or totally fucked up in their heads"]
I'll use this statement to interject a biographical statement: I've probably *learnt* more through independent studies than I have from going to school. Although, my experience has been that everything prior to postsecondary was arbitrary, but university itself has helped with *learning how to learn*. Historical / Theoretical / Philosophical courses have substantial worth.
@PavedStones *** I guess I should quickly clarify and say that I am a small-town Canadian, so my experiences are possibly naive in scope. As far as other school systems go, I am ignorant of any differences. For all I know I am LUCKY to be able to say that my pre-postsecondary education has been at the most...barely stimulating...and at least...not harmful.
One of the few free thinking intellectuals of our time. Spent his entire life advocating for people, asserting that it's within our power and jurisdiction to change things and attain better lives.
The only valid role of intellectuals, artists, and poets is one that furthers the cause and interest of the common people. No other role is of value.
Thanks. I can only get credit for the first paragraph since it's mine. The second paragraph was me rephrasing a quote I once read - by the directors of the documentary "La Hora de Los Hornos" - on the role of the intellectuals. Pretty powerful movie, check it out.
Chomsky is the perfect example of how integrity and a serious attitude to critical analyses of the way the world works (the two are inseparable) can still afford academics, intellectuals, a decent career. America's greatest gift to the world.
*thanks* for this interesting upload !
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wda013 11 months ago
WOW!
juanmora19910209 1 year ago
This rings a bell, and that is high school teachers. God how I fucking hate them, if you want to see people that Noam talks about in this video then look no further than high school teachers. It's probably the same with university teachers, but the thing is the high school teachers take orders from above, so you can't change their mind at all. Especially when you're in an institution and you have to follow all these procedures that you become a maniac completely divorced from reality.
anonymity11 1 year ago
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Yeah I agree!! Universities are a bit better but most schooling is psychopathic. The students have almost no say in what they are to study, the stuff is just drilled into their minds like they're robots, and no say at all in the way the school and the classroom is to be run, they aren't even consulted by their teachers as to what rules there should be in the classroom, the Master is to decide of everything arbitrarily, doesn't even have to explain what rules
PavedStones 1 year ago
he can punish anyone at a whim, and punish you extra-badly if you speak out against injustice, there's no checks and balance whatsoever over his power. That teaches the children great values: submission, obedience, hypocrisy, acceptance of injustice, conformism and survival under boredom. (i mean why not let the children decide of the rules and have a class council of rotatable members enabling the children themselves to resolve most disputes?
PavedStones 1 year ago
That would teach responsibility, civility, respect, politeness, self-confidence, fairness..) The school authorities can ban freedom of speech and movement like they see fit, persecute thoughtcriminals, even decide what people wear, the school is fenced off, bell rings tell people where they should be at at every moment like in a prison, there's constant surveillance, any kind of privacy or intimacy is suppressed hysterically.
PavedStones 1 year ago
A good school is a well-run concentration camp minus the torture chambers. Schooling destroys children, half of them leave barely litterate or totally fucked up in their heads. It's really terrible.
It doesn't have to be that way, there are other ways of teaching children, e.g. see that for example: watch?v=RFRT9JKGPcI
PavedStones 1 year ago
@PavedStones ["Schooling destroys children, half of them leave barely litterate or totally fucked up in their heads"]
I'll use this statement to interject a biographical statement: I've probably *learnt* more through independent studies than I have from going to school. Although, my experience has been that everything prior to postsecondary was arbitrary, but university itself has helped with *learning how to learn*. Historical / Theoretical / Philosophical courses have substantial worth.
BuBBaGump014 1 year ago
@PavedStones *** I guess I should quickly clarify and say that I am a small-town Canadian, so my experiences are possibly naive in scope. As far as other school systems go, I am ignorant of any differences. For all I know I am LUCKY to be able to say that my pre-postsecondary education has been at the most...barely stimulating...and at least...not harmful.
BuBBaGump014 1 year ago
One of the few free thinking intellectuals of our time. Spent his entire life advocating for people, asserting that it's within our power and jurisdiction to change things and attain better lives.
The only valid role of intellectuals, artists, and poets is one that furthers the cause and interest of the common people. No other role is of value.
HoloYamlay 2 years ago 19
@HoloYamlay I reallly like your comment, honest and powerful
juanmora19910209 1 year ago
@juanmora19910209
Thanks. I can only get credit for the first paragraph since it's mine. The second paragraph was me rephrasing a quote I once read - by the directors of the documentary "La Hora de Los Hornos" - on the role of the intellectuals. Pretty powerful movie, check it out.
HoloYamlay 1 year ago
It's true that an outraged reaction (in general) says more about the outraged individual than it does about anything else.
SomeUsefulVids 2 years ago
lol !
Right in the face.
Beliveau4Richard9 2 years ago 2
Right on Noam. Rock on Noam. Keep telling it as it is. Respect!!!!!!!
jpcortijo 2 years ago
One of the few definitively TRUE intellectuals in the world is Noam Chomsky. God bless hm.
mussman717word 2 years ago 2
@mussman717word
He doesn't get near Aldous Huxley but I guess he has the edge given that he's still alive
SionMorel 2 years ago
agreed 100%. Dare to propose ideas that are indifferent to the general concensus of "the way things ought to are"
damaged01 2 years ago
So true .
ice9001 2 years ago 3
Yoda, cheers.
wungabunga 2 years ago 2
Chomsky is the perfect example of how integrity and a serious attitude to critical analyses of the way the world works (the two are inseparable) can still afford academics, intellectuals, a decent career. America's greatest gift to the world.
wungabunga 3 years ago 24
completely agreee
davef89 3 years ago 3
that was decent prose. not correct but nice at least. at least decent it was
CardinalAqua 2 years ago
Cheers, Yoda.
wungabunga 2 years ago
youre under arrest sir. the charge? for being unoriginal
CardinalAqua 2 years ago
Cheers, Yoda.
wungabunga 2 years ago
youre under arrest sir. the charge? for being unoriginal
CardinalAqua 2 years ago