just as a comment. I posted on HTWW's page and after showing references how HTWW was obviously wrong, he just decided to block and delete me also. Sad that someone cannot take responsibility for their own inaccuracies. I admit that im wrong alot and try to improve myself, others like HTWW dont care about improvment but only care about their agenda.
HTWW is a paid corporate shill that says anything that makes companies more profit. That's his only motivation in life. We don't even know the names of the companies that pay his disinformation company, and we will never know because it is very very very bad publicity for a company to be known to fund such anti-social, damaging lies. HTWW plays it smart: retreat when you're being weak, advance when you're strong. He's fighting a war when he should be helping to bring balance. Screw him.
um, i live in europe and I have 4 bathrooms - one for each floor - , 5 bedrooms, a front garden, a back garden, and the water that comes from my tap is ranked 3rd cleanist in the entire world, per country. Far lower standards??!
Bow to single payer! Give me a break. Europe has far lower standards of living than the US. BTW you have far too much time on your hands to bitch about some dude's comments on his youtube website. Who gives a damn? Bottom line is you don't agree with his politics. That's fine, just leave the soap operas to the networks.
You do realize that Europe is a very diverse place? There are places with lower living standards(like most of Eastern Europe), but with Western Europe the picture is not that clear cut. When I went to the US, I didn'T see much difference between my standard and the one of US citizens( and I went to CA). Besides, GDP is a very imperfect measure of living standards. If you take health as an indicator, most of Europe beats you guys.
@SrSavery No, I think it's a lot more than cristoballs disagreeing with HTWW's politics. It's more like some think it's a very dangerous thing to society to purposefully twist the facts to support policies that will do actual widespread harm. You think it's okay for HTWW to paint climate change physics as "hotly debated" and a "hoax", when it's been a solid scientific consensus for at least the past decade? Continued human behavior will negatively affect numerous species.
haha you know i've posted comments on his page too and they never come up. i got in to an exchange with him. he acted very condescending, until i asked him where he gets a figure in one of his videos where he claims that the U.S. feeds half the worlds population. after that i got no reply ha. Since then I've asked the same question about three times on his page and it never comes up. hmm...
You know, for all I can tell you posted to the effect of "LOLS UR A FAG" as your original comment and then screencapped all your deleted spam afterwards. I'm really not convinced you disproved anything. Mostly this comes across as a troll.
however, i guess you'll never know what i wrote that got my comments deleted and my account blocked, being that htww deleted it. it would have helped his case to just leave it up, as something to point to when asked why he blocked me. don't you think?
Gee, freeamerika, I guess I'm a sock account. I listen from work (watching vids would get me fired) and don't have a webcam. I also have varied tastes and subscribe to channels I enjoy - I guess you've outed me. Damn!
Look at my channel. It's a political channel. Most if not all of my subs deal with politics correct? Why would I decided to sub Thunderf00t, TAA, potholer54 when the rest of my channel deals with politics? On top of subbing them I have not faved or featured one single video of any of theirs since joining. That would not be suspicious? Like I said someone has gone out of their way.
Thunderf00t blocked me. And sometimes Dprjones does too.... they say they believe in free speech (which means: as long as it's not critical of their views) :0P
I was raising awareness on his(TF's) own subscribers. For starters... start at page 43 of TF's subscribers. Tell me how many subscribers ironically joined Youtube on March 3, 2006. Continue going backwards and count how many ironically joined YT on March 2, 2006, and March 1, 2006, Feb. 28 2006, so on and so on.
This has nothing to do with the "rules" atheists set up for HTWW. This has to do with HUNDREDS of TF subscribers who ironically decided to join Youtube on the same dates.
thunderf00t has over 60,000 subscribers. i think youtube has only been around since late 2005. you're looking at roughly 1000 days youtube has been around. do the math. it's not that unlikely that many of tf00ts users would have signed up for a youtube account at that time.
however, if they had signed up for thunderf00ts channel, on pretty much only thunderf00ts channel, then i could see some reason for concern that he might be using sock accounts. then one would have to look at if the channels subscribing to tf00t had been used to upload videos or do anything other than subscribe to tf00t' channel.
looking at it with such a narrow view would make it more likely. however if I didn't want to be caught subing myself I wouldn't make it as apparent. But it makes it more apparent in this case because some of the these subscribers have subed and faved, things completley unrelated . Someone was trying too hard to make it look .....not apparent.
tell you what. you point to five accounts which you think are suspicious of being sock accounts, and explain why you think they are sock accounts. if your only basis is that they all signed up on or around the same date, that's not a very good reason to claim that they are.
I'm not using your narrow view and rules of socks though..... see. I'm viewing these accounts as suspicious in the fact it looks as though a mighty fine job has been done to make it look as though they are legit active accounts. One needs to look closely. Besides many more accounts are closed or suspended which are still being counted towards his subscriber list that don't need to be questioned at all. You have access to the same material I do. Look it up for yourself.
ah yes!!! how could i have been so blind? obviously, the accounts which one would be least suspicious of, should be the accounts we really put our focus on. yes, if an account has many original uploaded videos, thousands of video views, dozens of friends, and regular activity, then we should definitely be concerned that they are all part of a master plot by tf00t to control youtube. well done.
hah, you are a mere piker! I got the Hypnotoad to block me on his first vid and he selectively deleted comments I made. I wasn't even in my pit bull mode, I was attempting to be reasonable and polite. With him? Yeah, I know, pearls before a rabid syphilitic swine.
In other words you think Tf subscribers are socks because they subscribed on the same day. Did you check if they've watched videos. If I recall, HTWW's questionable accounts have no activity period sfter subbing and favoriting all his videos.
Then again, TF's subscriber list is public so you really don't have a leg to stand on here.
People create ghost accounts for various reasons. The rules you have applied to HTWW is not what I am applying to TF. I believe in TF's case their is meatpupperty or role accounts occuring on the behalf of many.
I will not give accounts out publicly which I suspect are socks. They could end up being harassed unnecessarily. Take what I have told you and investigate yourself.
so what you're saying is they're just subbing to tf00t, they're subbing to many. correct? is there anything i would look at beyond similar subs based on similar interests? something you feel would point me in the right direction. it's understandable that subs to tf00t might also sub to aronra, donexodus, liberalviewer, etc. being that they share a similar contempt for creationists.
Correct the same interest would makes sense, right. But the accounts are empty, active, and only subed to the SAME peopleotherwise. Some all in the same order, some hidden in many unrelated subs.
"you think TF subscribers are socks because they subscribed on the same day."
No. They subscribed to Youtube on the same day. (as far back as 3 yrs. ago)
They are subscribed to the same people (some many ,some fewer). They provide no fav. videos. Some accounts are blank. Have few page views. No relation to any other subs.
But continue to remain active with MANY watched videos.
The *many watched videos are just as important as no or few watched videos. Why? for the various reasons I stated below. The pages are empty, active, and subscribed to the same subscribers. Socks work in various degrees.
I have never watched any of htww's video and never commented on his channel and I just find out that I am blocked by him...lol this is hilarious! Did he blocked me cause I'm a thunderfoot and other peoples in the community's subscriber?
Its amazing how so many people follow a retard like that....but again...looking around at people's beliefs and all those ignorant idiots people follow...Its not THAT amazing.
i as well was blocked, and to think that people consider him an honest human being. i now have no respect whatsoever to lee's fan base. if someone can honestly defend such chickenshit tactics then that person is a chickenshit as well.
What lies? Why don't you just put your arguments here as to why he is lying? What are these arguments you speak of? This video is bullshit. You don't even describe the arguments that he is blocking despite this being the obvious tact to take...until you do that I think it safe to assume that you sir are the manipulating bullshitter here. Prove me wrong; post your arguments...on your account!!?
fair enough. as i've stated in another video, i'll be compiling a video of 5 lies (for now) that htww has told. i'll ask why he lied and see if can admit was wrong. they are lies i've already confronted him on in his comments section of his video, which led to me being blocked on his channel.
Cool, well, if you do that then its fair enough. I guess no-one can ask for more than that - I just don't understand why you didn't do it in the 1st place? TF cannot sensor your channel. Also, it is wrong to say "I will see if he can admit he was wrong.". Is he wrong? We don't even know what your argument is yet! surely the youtube community will be the judge, no? I do admire your replying to me and the action you propose to take, question is,will you act on it? I am genuinly interested though.
"I just don't understand why you didn't do it in the 1st place?"
actually, i did do that in the first place. however, it was htww's reluctance to admit that he was lying that got me started on these videos. that fact that he so often refers to his dissenters as "fools" and "drones" only adds to my dislike for the guy. but we'll see what happens. obviously, i've gotten his attention. let's see if he'll answer me now. it should be interesting.
Gee, I guess you got YOUR share of bashers posting responses to this video! Good Job!
Of course, none of them made any sense, and I can't, for the life of me, understand why anyone would bash someone who is asking for HTWW to STOP HIS LYING!!!
Keep it up, guy, seems like you're making people think, and that's quite something, given how HTWW expects people just to lay down and believe everything out of his mouth.
I suspect that HTWW has political ambitions - save all stuff that you have and drag it into the light when he tries to become elected to any political position, whatever it might be. He is creepy and scares me - and I don't even live in the US.
Playing the devil's advocate, I would say the only reason he had to resort to post via sock account is because he censors comments that he doesn't agree with. Pointing out misinformation doesn't sound like a justifiable reason for blocking accounts.
Yeah, but he should probably focus his efforts here on showing that his original account was blocked simply for pointing out misinformation. Blocking sock puppet accounts is only consistent with the original act-- be it for unjustified reasons or not.
I disagree with HTWW's all the time and he never deletes or blocks me. Every time he brings up the environment, I post something that shows he's wrong. Never once, that I know of, has he deleted my posts.
Maybe he deleted your comments (if he in fact actually did - not calling you a liar, just sayin), maybe he did it because it didn't contribute to the conversation in any way but just insulted him. I mean htwwiscopiouspissant? Not knowing the history, I would guess he just plain doesn't like you (which feeling I can see is mutual).
Try not being a jerk and maybe you'll get somewhere. I've seen many comments that disagree with him that aren't deleted, so there's something unique about yours
oh, i've contributed plenty. he apparently doesn't like it though when people actually do some fact-checking on his claims. anyhoo, take a look at my new video if you want.
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Its incredible to me that somehow in the USA that there is a mindset among a few that believe CHARITY is a birthright. Simply boggles the mind.
The same breed that slams Christianity with every breath...while at the same time giving worship and kissing the rearend of a single city that demonstrates the skills of a fence post.
i could care less what anyone thinks of me. i'm more concerned about the truth. so go ahead and insult away. hey i even put up a new video, check it out and feel free to insult me some more if it makes you happy.
Actually I'm a fan of Doren, mainly because he doesn't lie and almost never resorts to personal attacks to answer his opponents.
If you have facts to refute his arguents, I'd like to see what you have to say. If you're afraid of being "blocked and deleted" simply post them up on your own threads, as you have here.
There's no excuse for not being honest and decent. Let's not behave like Leftist radicals, eh?
if i have facts to refute his arguments??? have you ever read any of the sources he provides? hotair [.] com, michelle malkin's blog, etc. and then when he does post a credible source, it usually ends up refuting the point he's trying to make. if you don't believe me, check out the vid he posted last week about john holdren. i'd say 75% of what he said was b.s. and that's being kind to him.
no. i just have this strange urge to call out blatant liars, especially when so many people take them at their word. call me crazy, but i think it's everyone's responsibility, when a lie is being told, to correct that lie. and if you have a problem with that, you can go back to teabagging lee.
wow, you're not even original. i just called you a teabagger. come up with something better next time. btw, you should check out my new vid. i'd be interested in reading your comments. no cheap shots. just want to hear what you have to say.
In his video he said once a baby is a baby it's alive.. Think of it this way.
You're watching a football game and no one has scored yet, that doesn't mean it's not a football game...Then when someone scores that doesn't mean it's just nowa football game, it was a game when it first started.
no offense, but that horrible analogy. you're comparing life, whether it's prenatal, post-natal, or port-mortem to a football game? i'm sorry, but the two cannot be compared. and he never said, "once a baby is alieve, it's alive." not in the video i mirrored anyway, or at least i didn't hear him say that. could you point to the specific time he said that?
He knows that his current formula of lying, oversimplifying, twisting facts, ignoring facts, and spouting talking points has gotten him from 100 subscribers to 10000, a job, attention from TAA, Thunderf00t, TYT, and if he keeps it up, he might be cleaning Hannity's shoes.
Yup HTWW lies through his teeth. You really called him on the whole Democrat vandalism story.
The vandal, Maurice Joseph Schwenkler aka Ariel Attack, IS NOT A DEMOCRAT as HTWW claimed, but a TRANSGENDERED ANARCHIST who has protested BOTH the REPUBLICAN and DEMOCRAT national conventions.
HTWW couldn't have gotten it more wrong if he tried, and he's a coward for deleting your posts that set the record straight when he won't.
just as a comment. I posted on HTWW's page and after showing references how HTWW was obviously wrong, he just decided to block and delete me also. Sad that someone cannot take responsibility for their own inaccuracies. I admit that im wrong alot and try to improve myself, others like HTWW dont care about improvment but only care about their agenda.
bdhcarbon 7 months ago
HTWW is a fuckin neocon cheating maggot
sonykroket 8 months ago
"Lies" "Facts" as defined by the same people who say you can solve NP-complete problems with the scientific method.
Riiiight. God I'm sick of political religions, especially ones that pervert and abuse science.
joeedh 1 year ago
As someone who is indifferent in HTWW, all I conclude is that the only reason HTWW deletes your comments is that you're a troll.
BlackWolf4830 1 year ago
@BlackWolf4830 how can you be indifferent to the guy, hes clearly the worst kind off asshole?
mikeloaf 1 year ago
@mikeloaf Perhaps because I don't just listen to everything I hear from people who hate him
BlackWolf4830 1 year ago
@BlackWolf4830 ive listened to him without Tf00ts analysis, and frankly, i think Tf00t is a little soft on the guy.
mikeloaf 1 year ago
HTWW is a paid corporate shill that says anything that makes companies more profit. That's his only motivation in life. We don't even know the names of the companies that pay his disinformation company, and we will never know because it is very very very bad publicity for a company to be known to fund such anti-social, damaging lies. HTWW plays it smart: retreat when you're being weak, advance when you're strong. He's fighting a war when he should be helping to bring balance. Screw him.
EcrossH 2 years ago
um, i live in europe and I have 4 bathrooms - one for each floor - , 5 bedrooms, a front garden, a back garden, and the water that comes from my tap is ranked 3rd cleanist in the entire world, per country. Far lower standards??!
Jaoh3 2 years ago
Bow to single payer! Give me a break. Europe has far lower standards of living than the US. BTW you have far too much time on your hands to bitch about some dude's comments on his youtube website. Who gives a damn? Bottom line is you don't agree with his politics. That's fine, just leave the soap operas to the networks.
SrSavery 2 years ago
You do realize that Europe is a very diverse place? There are places with lower living standards(like most of Eastern Europe), but with Western Europe the picture is not that clear cut. When I went to the US, I didn'T see much difference between my standard and the one of US citizens( and I went to CA). Besides, GDP is a very imperfect measure of living standards. If you take health as an indicator, most of Europe beats you guys.
TheDudefromSomewhere 2 years ago
@SrSavery No, I think it's a lot more than cristoballs disagreeing with HTWW's politics. It's more like some think it's a very dangerous thing to society to purposefully twist the facts to support policies that will do actual widespread harm. You think it's okay for HTWW to paint climate change physics as "hotly debated" and a "hoax", when it's been a solid scientific consensus for at least the past decade? Continued human behavior will negatively affect numerous species.
EcrossH 2 years ago
hahaha lolz
CmdrTobs 2 years ago
Heh...what he can't censor, he bullies other people into censoring ;-)
Rindrand 2 years ago
haha you know i've posted comments on his page too and they never come up. i got in to an exchange with him. he acted very condescending, until i asked him where he gets a figure in one of his videos where he claims that the U.S. feeds half the worlds population. after that i got no reply ha. Since then I've asked the same question about three times on his page and it never comes up. hmm...
modestryan16 2 years ago
You know, for all I can tell you posted to the effect of "LOLS UR A FAG" as your original comment and then screencapped all your deleted spam afterwards. I'm really not convinced you disproved anything. Mostly this comes across as a troll.
NikovK 2 years ago
well, you're free to think what you want. i can neither prove nor disprove you suspicions about me, so i'm not going to bother trying. peace.
cristoballs 2 years ago
however, i guess you'll never know what i wrote that got my comments deleted and my account blocked, being that htww deleted it. it would have helped his case to just leave it up, as something to point to when asked why he blocked me. don't you think?
cristoballs 2 years ago
i mean, he certainly has his share of "lols ur a fag" comments on his board. why would he single one out of many?
cristoballs 2 years ago
Hey man .. what song you using for the background. quite groovy with the bass :)
hyugakarn 2 years ago
for this vid? i think it's patsy kline - i'm sorry. you sure you don't mean for my other video?
cristoballs 2 years ago
Brenda Lee
robb1031 2 years ago
Gee, freeamerika, I guess I'm a sock account. I listen from work (watching vids would get me fired) and don't have a webcam. I also have varied tastes and subscribe to channels I enjoy - I guess you've outed me. Damn!
jcgadfly 2 years ago
it's okay I'd rather not be a sock sniffer anyway.
I'll leave that to the atheists.
freeamerika00 2 years ago
Preferring to be HTWW's Monica?'
Your reasoning has been shown to be faulty. Feel free to tell HTWW how badly your attempt at apologetics failed.
jcgadfly 2 years ago
for instance:
one account will feature a video of someones cat. No other favs.
They subbed 23 people. In those subbed is Thunderf00t and Dprjones, their other subs?
BritneySpearsTV, Fred, and various unrelated people.
Other account will feature someone elses anime video, not favs, and will have subbed all the top atheists .
freeamerika00 2 years ago
that's proof enough for me. you should probably report this irrefutable evidence to youtube at once.
cristoballs 2 years ago
So you suspect some of TF's accounts are socks because they watch videos and don't upload?
Wow, that's ironclad evidence...that some people watch videos without uploading things
Isn't that just a litle bit different than HTWWs suspicious accounts that have no activity at all (not even watching videos)?
It seems like your problem stems from you not liking TF and wanting to do for HTWW what Monica did for Bill.
jcgadfly 2 years ago 3
it's funny. his whole argument breaks down to, "they are socks because they don't look like socks."
cristoballs 2 years ago
Look at my channel. It's a political channel. Most if not all of my subs deal with politics correct? Why would I decided to sub Thunderf00t, TAA, potholer54 when the rest of my channel deals with politics? On top of subbing them I have not faved or featured one single video of any of theirs since joining. That would not be suspicious? Like I said someone has gone out of their way.
freeamerika00 2 years ago
Thunderf00t blocked me. And sometimes Dprjones does too.... they say they believe in free speech (which means: as long as it's not critical of their views) :0P
freeamerika00 2 years ago
Really? Were you being a deliberate ass or did you have legit concerns?
jcgadfly 2 years ago
I was raising awareness on his(TF's) own subscribers. For starters... start at page 43 of TF's subscribers. Tell me how many subscribers ironically joined Youtube on March 3, 2006. Continue going backwards and count how many ironically joined YT on March 2, 2006, and March 1, 2006, Feb. 28 2006, so on and so on.
freeamerika00 2 years ago
Oh, you were being an ass.
Did those folks do nothing but come in, subscribe and fave TF's/dprjones' videos and not do anything (even watch videos) thereafter?
jcgadfly 2 years ago
This has nothing to do with the "rules" atheists set up for HTWW. This has to do with HUNDREDS of TF subscribers who ironically decided to join Youtube on the same dates.
freeamerika00 2 years ago
thunderf00t has over 60,000 subscribers. i think youtube has only been around since late 2005. you're looking at roughly 1000 days youtube has been around. do the math. it's not that unlikely that many of tf00ts users would have signed up for a youtube account at that time.
cristoballs 2 years ago
however, if they had signed up for thunderf00ts channel, on pretty much only thunderf00ts channel, then i could see some reason for concern that he might be using sock accounts. then one would have to look at if the channels subscribing to tf00t had been used to upload videos or do anything other than subscribe to tf00t' channel.
cristoballs 2 years ago
looking at it with such a narrow view would make it more likely. however if I didn't want to be caught subing myself I wouldn't make it as apparent. But it makes it more apparent in this case because some of the these subscribers have subed and faved, things completley unrelated . Someone was trying too hard to make it look .....not apparent.
freeamerika00 2 years ago
So you are telling me that Thunderf00t became an instant sensation to over 400 people who joined before Youtube was even purchased by Google?
freeamerika00 2 years ago
huh? what are you talking about? please elaborate.
cristoballs 2 years ago
tell you what. you point to five accounts which you think are suspicious of being sock accounts, and explain why you think they are sock accounts. if your only basis is that they all signed up on or around the same date, that's not a very good reason to claim that they are.
cristoballs 2 years ago
I'm not using your narrow view and rules of socks though..... see. I'm viewing these accounts as suspicious in the fact it looks as though a mighty fine job has been done to make it look as though they are legit active accounts. One needs to look closely. Besides many more accounts are closed or suspended which are still being counted towards his subscriber list that don't need to be questioned at all. You have access to the same material I do. Look it up for yourself.
freeamerika00 2 years ago
so you're saying you believe they are sock accounts because they look like legit accounts? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
cristoballs 2 years ago
ah yes!!! how could i have been so blind? obviously, the accounts which one would be least suspicious of, should be the accounts we really put our focus on. yes, if an account has many original uploaded videos, thousands of video views, dozens of friends, and regular activity, then we should definitely be concerned that they are all part of a master plot by tf00t to control youtube. well done.
cristoballs 2 years ago
hah, you are a mere piker! I got the Hypnotoad to block me on his first vid and he selectively deleted comments I made. I wasn't even in my pit bull mode, I was attempting to be reasonable and polite. With him? Yeah, I know, pearls before a rabid syphilitic swine.
Plutonwolf 2 years ago
In other words you think Tf subscribers are socks because they subscribed on the same day. Did you check if they've watched videos. If I recall, HTWW's questionable accounts have no activity period sfter subbing and favoriting all his videos.
Then again, TF's subscriber list is public so you really don't have a leg to stand on here.
Again, you're being an ass. Please stop.
jcgadfly 2 years ago 2
People create ghost accounts for various reasons. The rules you have applied to HTWW is not what I am applying to TF. I believe in TF's case their is meatpupperty or role accounts occuring on the behalf of many.
I will not give accounts out publicly which I suspect are socks. They could end up being harassed unnecessarily. Take what I have told you and investigate yourself.
freeamerika00 2 years ago
so what you're saying is they're just subbing to tf00t, they're subbing to many. correct? is there anything i would look at beyond similar subs based on similar interests? something you feel would point me in the right direction. it's understandable that subs to tf00t might also sub to aronra, donexodus, liberalviewer, etc. being that they share a similar contempt for creationists.
cristoballs 2 years ago
*...they're NOT just subbing to tf00t, they're subbing to many.
cristoballs 2 years ago
however, if i were to look at say a string of 50 of tf00ts subscribers, i doubt i would find very many if any who subscribe to only those channels.
cristoballs 2 years ago
Correct the same interest would makes sense, right. But the accounts are empty, active, and only subed to the SAME peopleotherwise. Some all in the same order, some hidden in many unrelated subs.
freeamerika00 2 years ago
"you think TF subscribers are socks because they subscribed on the same day."
No. They subscribed to Youtube on the same day. (as far back as 3 yrs. ago)
They are subscribed to the same people (some many ,some fewer). They provide no fav. videos. Some accounts are blank. Have few page views. No relation to any other subs.
But continue to remain active with MANY watched videos.
freeamerika00 2 years ago
The *many watched videos are just as important as no or few watched videos. Why? for the various reasons I stated below. The pages are empty, active, and subscribed to the same subscribers. Socks work in various degrees.
freeamerika00 2 years ago
I have never watched any of htww's video and never commented on his channel and I just find out that I am blocked by him...lol this is hilarious! Did he blocked me cause I'm a thunderfoot and other peoples in the community's subscriber?
Its amazing how so many people follow a retard like that....but again...looking around at people's beliefs and all those ignorant idiots people follow...Its not THAT amazing.
ckndr 2 years ago
i as well was blocked, and to think that people consider him an honest human being. i now have no respect whatsoever to lee's fan base. if someone can honestly defend such chickenshit tactics then that person is a chickenshit as well.
adafuns 2 years ago
thank you for making this video.
I made a comment in disagreement with Lee last week.
Not surprisingly, I was blocked. He is a disgusting hypocrite.
TinyCoconut 2 years ago
Lee Doren (aka HowTheWorldWorks) is an upstanding citizen and would never resort to dishonest tactics to further his agenda. That would be wrong.
Lee Doren is a fair person.
Lee Doren is a good person.
I am not a Sock Puppet.
JustMySockAccount 2 years ago
subscribe to the 5 douche channels, otherwise it's not funny.
hyperseauton 2 years ago
you seem to be a HTWW-troll so i'll subscribe to you.
Evilanious 2 years ago 10
LMFAO!! Chistoballs, you got him good!☺
upsilon054 2 years ago
What lies? Why don't you just put your arguments here as to why he is lying? What are these arguments you speak of? This video is bullshit. You don't even describe the arguments that he is blocking despite this being the obvious tact to take...until you do that I think it safe to assume that you sir are the manipulating bullshitter here. Prove me wrong; post your arguments...on your account!!?
Infinitpossibilities 2 years ago
fair enough. as i've stated in another video, i'll be compiling a video of 5 lies (for now) that htww has told. i'll ask why he lied and see if can admit was wrong. they are lies i've already confronted him on in his comments section of his video, which led to me being blocked on his channel.
cristoballs 2 years ago
Cool, well, if you do that then its fair enough. I guess no-one can ask for more than that - I just don't understand why you didn't do it in the 1st place? TF cannot sensor your channel. Also, it is wrong to say "I will see if he can admit he was wrong.". Is he wrong? We don't even know what your argument is yet! surely the youtube community will be the judge, no? I do admire your replying to me and the action you propose to take, question is,will you act on it? I am genuinly interested though.
Infinitpossibilities 2 years ago
"I just don't understand why you didn't do it in the 1st place?"
actually, i did do that in the first place. however, it was htww's reluctance to admit that he was lying that got me started on these videos. that fact that he so often refers to his dissenters as "fools" and "drones" only adds to my dislike for the guy. but we'll see what happens. obviously, i've gotten his attention. let's see if he'll answer me now. it should be interesting.
cristoballs 2 years ago
Gee, I guess you got YOUR share of bashers posting responses to this video! Good Job!
Of course, none of them made any sense, and I can't, for the life of me, understand why anyone would bash someone who is asking for HTWW to STOP HIS LYING!!!
Keep it up, guy, seems like you're making people think, and that's quite something, given how HTWW expects people just to lay down and believe everything out of his mouth.
awreslr2 2 years ago 2
I suspect that HTWW has political ambitions - save all stuff that you have and drag it into the light when he tries to become elected to any political position, whatever it might be. He is creepy and scares me - and I don't even live in the US.
ecscsjo 2 years ago
AH! so YOU'RE the reason that the sorry little piece of shit now has all comments "pending approval"
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
my bad...:-P
cristoballs 2 years ago
You probably have a point with comments from your original account, and with THAT account being blocked (although this vid does not illustrate that).
However, deleting and blocking posts from sock-puppet accounts seems justified-- especially if the original account was blocked for valid reasons.
hugesinker 2 years ago
Playing the devil's advocate, I would say the only reason he had to resort to post via sock account is because he censors comments that he doesn't agree with. Pointing out misinformation doesn't sound like a justifiable reason for blocking accounts.
TheSkepticalArtist 2 years ago
Yeah, but he should probably focus his efforts here on showing that his original account was blocked simply for pointing out misinformation. Blocking sock puppet accounts is only consistent with the original act-- be it for unjustified reasons or not.
hugesinker 2 years ago
Yeah, that evidence would be ideal. But who thinks to prepare against getting comments deleted and banned?
Jermbot15 2 years ago
Lol. Nice video. I see you got a bunch of fools here defending their kind. He has over 10k subscribers and what? 6 of them defended him? Hilarious.
Derokos 2 years ago 8
@1:24 NNOOOOO, cristoballs, don't drink his flavor-aid!!!!! It's evil gubbment issued. lol
bsnowman 2 years ago
desperation is a stinky cologne
MYSELFgoverned 2 years ago
desperation?
cristoballs 2 years ago
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1 star. What a stupid video...
kbmuckymuck 2 years ago
thumbs down, what a stupid comment...
cristoballs 2 years ago
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Whatever floats your boat, fuckface.
kbmuckymuck 2 years ago
hey check out my new vid. let me know what you think.
cristoballs 2 years ago
He bocked me too.... oh well....
zionofwestern 2 years ago
apparently he doesn't like facts.
cristoballs 2 years ago
I disagree with HTWW's all the time and he never deletes or blocks me. Every time he brings up the environment, I post something that shows he's wrong. Never once, that I know of, has he deleted my posts.
christo930 2 years ago
at least he isn't a little bitch LOL...I don't know him..gonna check him out..heard a lot of bad things about him
NeCacaluXuxultic 2 years ago
People don't like him because he is a right winger. I don't like his anti-AGW denial and his partisan view, but he isn't that bad.
christo930 2 years ago
I completely agree....that's why I unsubscribed to him HAHAHAH
NeCacaluXuxultic 2 years ago
one shoud keep being subscriber of HTWW, it's important to know what the crazies think
Melpheos1er 2 years ago
hmm nahhhhhh I'm an Amazing Atheist fan XD
NeCacaluXuxultic 2 years ago
Did it ever occur to you that perhaps he blocked you for being annoying by spamming his videos rather then contribute to the conversation.
LordWolven 2 years ago
hey, i got a new vid up... tell me what you think.
cristoballs 2 years ago
What do you get out of annoying him?
Multifire 2 years ago
you call it annoying. i call it demanding answers. the guy lies habitually, and i'm gonna continue to call him out on it till he answers why.
cristoballs 2 years ago
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Then you have no life.
Multifire 2 years ago
hey i'm inviting everyone who badmouthed me in this vid to check out my new vid on htww. hit me with your best shot.
cristoballs 2 years ago
Maybe he deleted your comments (if he in fact actually did - not calling you a liar, just sayin), maybe he did it because it didn't contribute to the conversation in any way but just insulted him. I mean htwwiscopiouspissant? Not knowing the history, I would guess he just plain doesn't like you (which feeling I can see is mutual).
Try not being a jerk and maybe you'll get somewhere. I've seen many comments that disagree with him that aren't deleted, so there's something unique about yours
ironclad452 2 years ago
oh i've tried being polite. he just won't answer questions when he knows he's being cornered.
cristoballs 2 years ago
oh, i've contributed plenty. he apparently doesn't like it though when people actually do some fact-checking on his claims. anyhoo, take a look at my new video if you want.
cristoballs 2 years ago
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Its incredible to me that somehow in the USA that there is a mindset among a few that believe CHARITY is a birthright. Simply boggles the mind.
The same breed that slams Christianity with every breath...while at the same time giving worship and kissing the rearend of a single city that demonstrates the skills of a fence post.
tonysshadow 2 years ago
what are you talking about? anyway, check my video if you want. feel free to respond with the same nonsense you're doing here.
cristoballs 2 years ago
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Nice photoshop work. You think anyone gives a fuck about you?
agreg24 2 years ago
i could care less what anyone thinks of me. i'm more concerned about the truth. so go ahead and insult away. hey i even put up a new video, check it out and feel free to insult me some more if it makes you happy.
cristoballs 2 years ago
Stalk much?
satirewriter07 2 years ago
Actually I'm a fan of Doren, mainly because he doesn't lie and almost never resorts to personal attacks to answer his opponents.
If you have facts to refute his arguents, I'd like to see what you have to say. If you're afraid of being "blocked and deleted" simply post them up on your own threads, as you have here.
There's no excuse for not being honest and decent. Let's not behave like Leftist radicals, eh?
DrCruel 2 years ago
if i have facts to refute his arguments??? have you ever read any of the sources he provides? hotair [.] com, michelle malkin's blog, etc. and then when he does post a credible source, it usually ends up refuting the point he's trying to make. if you don't believe me, check out the vid he posted last week about john holdren. i'd say 75% of what he said was b.s. and that's being kind to him.
cristoballs 2 years ago
ARe you gay for lee or something that you feel the need to follow his every video
buckiemohawk 2 years ago
no. i just have this strange urge to call out blatant liars, especially when so many people take them at their word. call me crazy, but i think it's everyone's responsibility, when a lie is being told, to correct that lie. and if you have a problem with that, you can go back to teabagging lee.
cristoballs 2 years ago
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obviously your obsessed with tea bagging lee you unfortunate loser
buckiemohawk 2 years ago
wow, you're not even original. i just called you a teabagger. come up with something better next time. btw, you should check out my new vid. i'd be interested in reading your comments. no cheap shots. just want to hear what you have to say.
cristoballs 2 years ago
Well, what is it that he was lieing about?
PivotB3stZ 2 years ago
for one, the comment he made about babies being born "healthy" before 22wks. would you like more?
cristoballs 2 years ago
In his video he said once a baby is a baby it's alive.. Think of it this way.
You're watching a football game and no one has scored yet, that doesn't mean it's not a football game...Then when someone scores that doesn't mean it's just nowa football game, it was a game when it first started.
PivotB3stZ 2 years ago
no offense, but that horrible analogy. you're comparing life, whether it's prenatal, post-natal, or port-mortem to a football game? i'm sorry, but the two cannot be compared. and he never said, "once a baby is alieve, it's alive." not in the video i mirrored anyway, or at least i didn't hear him say that. could you point to the specific time he said that?
cristoballs 2 years ago
funny.
stanjz 2 years ago
This peckerhead claims government will screw up healthcare reform becuase they screw up public education.
Oh wait, HTWW IS RIGHT! HE IS A PRODUCT OF PUBLIC SCHOOL EDUCATION! PROVING HIS POINT.
robertmike57 2 years ago
He knows that his current formula of lying, oversimplifying, twisting facts, ignoring facts, and spouting talking points has gotten him from 100 subscribers to 10000, a job, attention from TAA, Thunderf00t, TYT, and if he keeps it up, he might be cleaning Hannity's shoes.
abortabraham 2 years ago 3
Or his ball sack. I'm not REALLY calling Lee a whore....not really......
Plutonwolf 2 years ago
Glad to hear it, Pluton. That could be taken as an insult to sexworkers around the world.
jcgadfly 2 years ago 3
Yup HTWW lies through his teeth. You really called him on the whole Democrat vandalism story.
The vandal, Maurice Joseph Schwenkler aka Ariel Attack, IS NOT A DEMOCRAT as HTWW claimed, but a TRANSGENDERED ANARCHIST who has protested BOTH the REPUBLICAN and DEMOCRAT national conventions.
HTWW couldn't have gotten it more wrong if he tried, and he's a coward for deleting your posts that set the record straight when he won't.
ZangaroZen 2 years ago
Here's the supporting link:
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ZangaroZen 2 years ago 2