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  • I don't know what these naysayers are talking about, but hydrogen is an extremely powerful element. And it doesn't take much electricity to extract it from water. If used in an efficient engine, the engine can produce the small quantity of electricity needed to extract the more powerful hydrogen for combustion in the same engine. The only thing that doesn't make this a perfect power source is that the water and copper wiring would need to be be replaced from time to time.

  • WFC (water fuel cell) is probally a more accurate term for what your using, only problem with using HHO as a catalyst for gasoline (which works the same as a primer for a rifle cartrage) is the excess O2 thats going down the exhaust pipe, it oxidizes platnum, copper, and other rare and valueable elements used in catalytic converters, the oxygen sensors detect this as a lean fuel mixture and rases fuel mixture to compensate, ever replaced a converter?$?$? you wont get through emissions without it

  • @bill71183 actually palladium is used in catalytic converters. And it does NOT oxidize.

  • Hey, I have not been able to find any videos that explain the long term use. I see you posted this in 2008. I am wondering if you are still using it and if it has had any bad effects on your engine. Thanks hope to hear from you and nice truck dude!

  • Do you know how many liters per minute of hho you are putting into your V8 engine? Thanks. Im also working on mine.

  • Where is your bubbler?

  • It does work! Your being to simple minded. The HHO optimizes the efficiancy of the gasoline, While you cant run the car with the HHO alone (with this type of setup) it allows a more complete burn of the gasoline. producing more power and a more efficiant engine. Its not the HHO alone its the HHO and gasoline together that allows this to be possible. Just becouse Science says its wrong dont mean its wrong. Remember when the world was supposed to be flat?

  • You mix the baking soda right in the jar with the distilled water? What will happen if I mixed it in a gallon container and then ad as I need it will it go bad after a wile? Also what is better glass or plastic mason jars ? I have seen a lot of people use glass but I saw one made of plastic peanut butter jars .

  • Stop fighting okay, this is not true, the bubbles are not hho, the metal inside the container heats up because they put - and on the other side +, so the bubbles are just evaporation or moisture, water moisture inside the engine is a bad idea, that's why car manufacturer don't patent this thing because it does not work, if this works car manufacturer will patent this thing, off course they are vultures you know about car tech. So stop it now.

  • @hanspotato22 What, are you kidding, did you not take 7th grade science and learn about electrolysis? Do you not know that water is H2O and that the process of electrolysis separates the hydrogen and oxygen? This system is called HHO because of the combining of the gasses. This setup doesn't replace gasoline but it increases efficiency of gasoline engines thus increasing the MPG. Electrolysis itself isn't efficient because of the electricity needed, but in car application works well.

  • @hanspotato22 YOu couldn't be more wrong. Have you given your comment any thought what so ever?

  • hey man keep doing what you are doing when the people that are jealous with complaints about not be leaving it...while we are driving cheep and eating steaks they will be using there grocery money to drive on and eating ham sandwiches lol

  • they call a cell phone a cell phone not because of the battery you moron its because you are in a "cell" like area surrounded by towers no more than 10 miles apart.

    Hence you are in a "cell"

  • No water isnt a source of energy, but when you attach the water and baking soda mixture to a source of electricity you are actually using the principal of a conductor to in a sense create a cold fusion reactor used to create the chemical gas compound called hho or hydrogen. If you still have doubts look up the Honda FCX Clarity since about 1998 they have damn near produced a vehicle that is ran purely off of hydrogen. Just in order to make the government happy they won't build it to produce hho

  • @dagra55 That car is ran on electricity which is produced though a hydrogen cell...So its not running on hydrogen...These HHO generators are burning the hydrogen..The FCX does not...

  • how about an update on your GMC. Are you still getting 62 more miles a tank?

    Thanks!

  • ok so you added a fuel celll to your GMC.... and it works... I just want to know if youhad to adapt your 02 sensors.... and also what did you do to your MAP sensor so that its not pumping in more fuel because of the increase of oxygen in the system.. did you have to use a sensor enhancer??? let me know how you did that ... if not.... because thats where I' m at.....

  • ok so you added a fuel celll to your GMC.... and it works... I just want to know if youhad to adapt your 02  sensors.... and also what did you do to your MAP sensor so that its not pumping in more fuel because of the increase of oxygen in the system.. did you have to use a sensor enhancer??? let me know how you did that ... if not....

  • it doesnt create hydrogen. water has hydrogen in it. H20 two parts hydrogen

  • A car is the perfect test for something like this. An alternator cranks out way more amps than could ever be used by the car or to recharge the battery.  All those extra watts are typically wasted. This just puts them to use creating HHO, which is indeed a fuel source, pumped into the air intake, and burned to power the engine. More HHO fuel means less gasoline is being burned. It's really a simple concept. Stop wasting all the extra amps from the alternator...put em to use!

  • @frontierteg you can't get more out than you're putting in though. The more amps you draw from the alternator, the more effort it takes to spin it.

  • @Aesus1 I agree with you. I've seen a very good example of exactly what you're saying. Someone hooked up an HHO creator to a standard briggs and straton generator and measured gas consumption with a graduated cylinder while generating HHO and feeding back into the air intake, and then without the process attached at all, proving beyond a doubt that this process does indeed consume more energy than it produces.

  • @Aesus1

    I'm not an electrical engineer nor a physicist, but it seems like there is an awful lot of electrical current being produced by the alternator that is never being used for charging the battery, running the lights, etc... I just see this as reclaiming wasted energy that has already been spend to make the engine move.

  • @Aesus1 I think I'm going to read a few books about the creation and consumption of electricity. I have a feeling that maybe the alternator may only produce the amount of electricity being drawn from it and spins easily if its not under a heavy load, and spins harder with more load. If this is the case, then I totally understand why others (not you) keep replying to my comments as if I'm an idiot. If so, it's not intuitive. I wish they'd give me a break.

  • props dude. my buddy did this with his honda civic. it was his senior project. he did all the research and built the same jar cells you did. on a manual civic that got 29 miles per gallon. he added the fuel cell to get about 35 per gallon. it works. it just seems sketchy. but dont be all freaked out kids!!! just scared of a little science.

  • There is no way this can work. You simply cant get more out than you put in. If hydrogen is the answer, producing it this way makes no sense and the amount produced is so tiny it cant possibly make a significant difference.

  • it works! the shuttle buses at the olympics are on it right now. it was just on the news.

  • @revlimiterUK . its true that it takes more energy to produce. it has been known that hydrogen is burned cooler there for letting the engine run more freely depending on the oil used thus allowing more garenteed power. There are now safer practices of producing and storing hydrogen. We can use solar panels to produce hydrogen and solar panels become more efficient every year.

  • You are an idiot.

  • @revlimiterUK Learn about energy density before you start talking about how small amounts of a substance can't possibly put out significant amounts of energy.

  • A fuel cell is an electrochemical cell that produces electricity from a fuel tank.

    Nothing to do with HHO.

  • And "cell phone" is basically a battery for the phone. You can't "talk" on a battery phone. You can talk on a "mobile phone."

    I wonder if it frustrates you when you hear people say Cell phone instead of Mobile Phone?

  • The definition of a fuel cell is an electrochemical cell where electricity is generated through a reaction.

    HHO'ers think fuel cell sounds cool and want to steal buzz words to help market their scams.

  • if it is a scam, then why are they talking about on the news at the olympics? the shuttle/buses over there are using it right now!

  • Those buses are hydrogen powered. This has absolutely nothing to do with on-demand on-board HHO generation through electrolysis.

  • Of course it works. Hydrogen is one of the most productive elements when it comes to electric output. And water when conducted in the right circumstances is capable of generating electricity, it doesn't produce it, but it helps generate it. That has a lot to do with the structure of the molecules and of course the Hydrogen.

  • The sun for instance is mostly made of Hydrogen. Hydrogen is useful for nuclear energy fusion, because it so small and it becomes it easily seeks to create ionic bonds (which are pretty strong like magnetism), you simply use that natural bond factor and increase the acceleration of the atom and it smashes into another without as much need of force as another element may require.

    And then of course you have the electrons which in hydrogen are located in the lowest orbit, which is most powerful.

  • @TheRadicalRyushin Useful in the sun, not useful on earth for fusion.

    There is practically no hydrogen on earth, unless you make it by splitting it from something, like water.

    And that costs energy.

    Using solar power or other renewable resource is good. But storing the electricity in batteries is more efficient and cheaper.

    And there is no such thing as some hydrogen more powerful than other hydrogen.

    Why are you so full of shit?

  • Why are you so full of yourself?

    Errors in your sense of logic.

    1) You say Hydrogen is not useful on Earth, prove it. Hydrogen is useful, evidence electricity.

    2) No hydrogen on EARTH? BWAHAHAHA! There is plenty of hydrogen, it is just not in its purest form, but there is plenty of it in molecular bonds in the form of water or other molecules or compounds. Methane, Ethanol, and other substances contain plenty of hydrogen. Next time try to be specific on what "hydrogen" you speak about. Fool.

  • "And that costs energy."

    All energy costs energy. The whole point of one of Newton's laws is that matter nor energy can be created or destroyed. Therefore it costs energy to make energy. So your point is ludicrous.

    "Using solar power or other renewable resource is good."

    Now you sound like a retard. "is good." What the fuck is up with that? Couldn't you have said, "is beneficial and cost-effective?" Try at least sound more intelligent than me if you really think that you are.

  • "But storing the electricity in batteries is more efficient and cheaper."

    You can store energy from the sun in batteries, dumbass.

    "And there is no such thing as some hydrogen more powerful than other hydrogen."

    I never said such a thing. I said Hydrogen is more efficient for electricity than other atoms, because its only electron orbit is at the lowest distance from the nucleus, while being the only orbit at all. Making it the most efficient electron to generate electricity.

  • So naturally, the hydrogen gives off more energy relatively easily compare to other elements, because it has one proton and therefore can only attract a single electron into its orbit, of course it could have more than that. But given that the electron is in the orbit closest to the nucleus (the single proton), it has a lot more powerful than say the outer electrons in orbit around an oxygen nucleus. Because the more farther out electrons are the less power they generate when being removed.

  • Your momma.

  • With Hydrogen Fuel, the way it works is that it strips Hydrogen from Oxygen and takes the electrons (which make electricity, electricity comes from electrons) from the hydrogen that snapped off from the oxygen. Because Hydrogen doesn't have any outer orbits of electrons, it is relatively easy to remove the electron from the hydrogen and because it is the inner most orbit, it draws out a lot of power.

    And that is what makes Hydrogen fuel so effective. The gas companies don't want you to know.

  • @TheRadicalRyushin

    That is a just a whole bunch of utter fantasy nonsense in the first degree.

    You need to learn about the natural law of the conservation of energy.

    You can not create or destroy energy. You can convert it. Every time you convert energy, there is loss in the form heat.

    There is no special "easy" way to split water into 2H2+O2.

    The crap about the electrons is utter horseshit.

  • When someone says something that you deem isn't true, you have to prove it is not true. All you've done is spew verbal retardation. I bet you don't even believe dinosaurs had walked the Earth tens of millions of years ago or that Mankind is a monkey.

  • @TheRadicalRyushin

    The laws of nature stand. You or anyone else will not ever break them. It is impossible. That is why they are called laws of nature.

    People in the past thinking that flight was impossible was never a law of nature, so making those kinds of comparisons make no sense whatsoever.

    Verbal retardation? You have any idea how actually retarded that really sounds? Read back the crap you barfed up, and notice the utter nonsense crap your fantasy idiocy really is.

  • "The laws of nature stand. You or anyone else will not ever break them. It is impossible. That is why they are called laws of nature."

    That actually isn't the definition of a law. Plus being comfort seekers and not dogs, I don't see the point trying to establish a canonic-church type of ideology, when you know it won't work with something as rebellious as human. Don't you think that maybe this strict rule stuff just isn't applicable, because it is not fundamental of how nature has programed us

  • @TheRadicalRyushin

    Nevertheless, the laws of nature will remain solid, no matter what you do or say. It is a carved in stone bona fide fact.

    If you think the laws of nature don't apply to you then you are delusional.

  • You are one strange little man. Grow the fuck up. You ain't as smart as you think you are.

  • @TheRadicalRyushin

    Funny how you try to make a comparison between a perpetual motion denier, or free energy denier, crap like that, and a religious person. It's usually the other way around. People that believe in free energy, excess energy, perpetual motion, HHO, and anything else that requires faith, are the ones that tend to be religious. Delusions trickle over to many areas often.

    No, I'm not religious, and yes, humans and apes do share a common ancestor.

  • A religious person? I am atheist. Goodness, you are the one who follows this ideology of "laws" which comes from religion. You are the one who is religious.

  • @TheRadicalRyushin

    The laws of nature is not an ideology, nor is it a religion. You clearly starting to show you lack of scientific knowledge.

  • Been uptight much? I am sorry, but you really don't understand the philosophical understanding behind the meaning of the word law and how it is implied.

  • @TheRadicalRyushin Someone that argues that the laws of nature don't apply to them, immediately throw any credibility straight in the garbage.

    It makes it seem that you are a con artist.

  • This is why you are religious. You apply everything to dogma.

    "It makes it seem that you are a con artist."

    Con-artist? Now you are making zero sense.

  • @TheRadicalRyushin

    I'm very far from being religious

    Yes, you're sounding like a con artist! Either that, or else you are delusional because you believe in things that do not exist. You've already made it clear that you don't understand science at all.

    You say things that are completely nonsensical.

    And then when I ask a simple question, you avoid answering it.

  • @TheRadicalRyushin

    What's also not helping you is that you favor all kinds of videos that are about things that are not possible. Such as 90mpg cars, how "fuel cells work", and videos about "burning water as fuel" (even though water can not be a fuel because it is not a source of energy).

  • "You need to learn about the natural law of the conservation of energy."

    Already know, thanks.

    "You can not create or destroy energy. You can convert it. Every time you convert energy, there is loss in the form heat."

    And that is what makes your argument about costing energy pointless.

    "There is no special "easy" way to split water into 2H2+O2."

    Uh, yes there is. Hydrogen is the easiest atom to split from another atom. Thereby it is the most efficient atom to rely on to obtain energy.

  • @TheRadicalRyushin

    You're missing the point, and you're distorting things.

    The point is that the amount of energy that you need to split water into hydrogen and oxygen, is *MORE* than the amount of energy that you get back out of it when you put it back together again.

    What part of that do you not understand?

  • What is your point? You don't have one. Distorting what? Oh so now you are whining, big shocker.

  • @TheRadicalRyushin

    Electricity in turn comes from another source. I'm completely not seeing your point at all here. What in the fuck do you mean?

  • You cannot understand the fundamentals of electricity. Goodness, someone should just show you how a hydrogen car works, because it is the only way you learn. Your studies and research have failed you. Don't think they have? Then be empirical and study the results directly.

  • @TheRadicalRyushin

    Again, your communication skills are very very poor.

    When you talk about a "hydrogen car", you need to explain how this hydrogen is consumed. Is it burned in an internal combustion engine? Or does it use a fuel cell, to generate electricity, that in turn drives an electric motor?

    I haven't failed anywhere here about anything at all.

    What you KEEP failing on is explaining yourself clearly.

    You are one confused puppy.

  • And again you demonstrate how poorly you are able to debate with someone. Try avoid the use of ad hominems and other fallacies. Thank you.

  • @TheRadicalRyushin I'm trying to clarify things. You're just adding fuzzy confusing unfocused nonsensical crap every time.

    Your communication skills are very poor, clearly. Your knowledge of science is obviously flawed as well. Read back what you write - perhaps you missed it.

    I'm being VERY clear. I've asked what you mean with "hydrogen car". You're avoiding to answer this and are avoiding any clear direction in this conversation.

  • You are trying to be a dick, no trying to clarify anything at all. Clarifying things does not require issuing ridicule, ad hominem attacks, and cynicism. You should be ashamed of yourself.

  • @TheRadicalRyushin

    Here is that question I was trying to get clarification on again:

    What do you mean with "hydrogen car" ?

  • Lying quacks usually always shut up once you start asking questions.

  • You crazy.

  • It is great that you are experimenting. I started with the wire in a jar fuel cells, but quickly realized that they are not efficient at all. The amperage is too high with stainless wire and it will eventually melt and warp the plastic supporting the wire. The water will also get too hot and will cause steam to be released into your intake.

    Look into HHO Dry Cells. They are a much better way of doing this.

  • If you add more electrolyte it will increase the output, but it will also increase the amperage. If you add more electrolyte, your fuse will probably pop. You might also want to look into a 12V Automotive Circuit Breaker on Ebay. It will save you having to continually buy fuses.

    The best electrolyte to use is KOH (potassium hydroxide), but you have to order it online, because you won't find it in any store. I get mine from essentialdepot(dot)com for less than $10 for a 2lb bottle.

  • a few good resources to look into on youtube are:

    EletrikRide

    SmartScarecrow

    ZeroFossilFuel

  • I am an engineering student and I get a kick out of the "research" that everyone is doing. SCIENCE FAIL good job retard and way to drive a huge truck to waste all of natural resources!! You are a dumbass, maybe take a chemistry class or thermodynamics class! Thanks! Once again good job retard!

  • try it with ice cubes,cold water and bi-carb (works alot better!!) :D goodluck

  • Fantastic job. You showed it and you are testing it and also learning from all this and sharing it with us all.

  • great job! be persistent I two am working with hydro ,solar,wind vechicle it never need in customizing sev super energy efficient vehicle.sun4777

  • be careful with adding your baking soda it will increas the amps of the cells

  • I was trying to give your video 5 stars but accidentally gave it one...sorry!! Looks great- way to be persistent!

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