I don't have the time to find the interesting parts in talks on every single youtube video I watch.
It is up to the speaker/editor to engage the audience from the beginning and not rely on the audience having to edit the talk themselves by using the slider.
Tory is cool, a gr8 gal n sexy 2 (im 27 from dublin if your interested:-) haha gr8 work Im glad you got out I did the communication course and then did my background work n got off at the first stop, I took my girlfriend with me who wantd to go clear, Its creating its own reality which is very very dangerous and it has 2 be stopped. gr8 work by all involved and keep it up
waiting for the guy to let Tory speak... ;) patiently.... well past six minutes is getting irritating...buffering or I would skip forward. Damn. Edit this thing willya! ;)
I've seen trolls before. Never came across a petty troll though. Why not stop wasting my time, and using up space on an otherwise relatively important series of videos.
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Why do you care what I think so much?
You obviously took some time to write a response and wasted more time lawl and why do u care about what i think so bad? if you didn't give a shit you'd just ignore me... evidently not LAWL PWNT
If you are in the vancouver Canada area, our next protest on scientology is on april 11th 2009 11am. If you watch the video, and feel like these people should be opposed, come out to their office downtown. There will be cake, bad 80th music and killer LULS.
Everyone is welcomed. Come and see the epic battle for yourself.
It looks like that the audience is made up of about 10-15 people and on the question "how many of you have read Dianetics? "Tory said: "ok... some of you".
So, who she is talking to ???
Anyway, the point is: You ( Tory)spent
30 years in SCN before to find out, as you claim, that SCN is a fraud ?
What a idiot !
Actually your husband left you because he discovered your sexual relationship with Mark Bunker and with others SCN critics, tell me it is not so !
anyone to even join scientology is a joke, you all need help to even think this kind of thing is real. Hey I have one for you all. Im a man but I talked with my dog and he said he is jesus. We need your money and then we can show you the way. It starts at only 5 easy payments of 500 bucks. send your money to 1122 burns st. paul mn. 55106
You need to dig deeper, you need to find out about the harassment, the disconections, the suicides, the forced abortions, the child slavery, the Rpf, suspected murders etc etc.
You shoult check out the paulette cooper testimony watch?v=JvXozEshc2Q
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Yeah, I'm familiar with most of the anti-scientology stuff out there. I fully understand the destructive nature of the organization. Just the same, there is much I've gotten from listening to the LRH lectures.
Well its good that you got something positive, but LRH did get his information for many different sources. owes much to early Freudian ideas. For example, LRHs "Reactive Mind" obviously derives from Freud's "Unconscious". The notion that this mind thinks in identities comes from Korzybski's General Semantics.Initially, before deciding that he was the sole source of Dianetics and Scientology, Hubbard acknowledged his debt to these thinkers. Auditing and the offer techniques come from Pavlov and
LRH goes 2 great lengths 2 vilify psychiatry but If u read into these guys also American psychiatrists Grinker & Speigel and English psychiatrist William Sargant and you'll see where he gets his ideas from.
13heathens has done loads of videos going thru his books but heres 1 brief vid on his Philosophy watch?v=i_rph_dgChQ
When it comes to psychiatry/psycology theyre both open to scrutiny by 10s of 1000s & publish their papers openly
As nasty said, Hubbard was skilled at renaming and reinterpreting ideas already investigated. Look up the interview of harlan ellison and robin williams... Many who knew hubbard in the early days agree that he succeeded in his goal to create a religion, which he voiced as his financial gold mine. Harlan Ellison Robin Williams Interview.
I am aware of L. Ron Hubbard's plagiarism. But the way I see it, he did nothing different that Joseph Smith did in creating new scriptures from his careful study of the Old and New Testaments. Mormonism has guided the lives of millions of adherents despite many of the more destructive actions of Mormon pioneers. It's the same with Scientology.
Did you look up the interview? I bet not. It would be worthless for you to bring up another religion as I am an atheist. For fact, the mormons and scientology are the religions of totalinarism that still exist prevantly in America, but scientology is by far the worst of the two.
Yes, I did. Just the same, I have gotten much from reading the Dianetics and Scientology books he wrote. They are improving my life. You really do not have to join the church in order to get much from the Tech. The way I see it, most Anonymous members have not even bothered to read the books. Why protest something you have not even investigated?
we do not protest CoS, we protest its nefarious methods in luring and keeping followers, we protest its attempts to silence the critics, we protest its policy of disconnection. We do not protest Xenu, we do not protest thetans, we do not protest your technologies. They are your beliefs and you are welcome to keep and spread them as long as you market it using truth, not deceit.
Why don't you or any other scientologist just tell us what it's about? Specifically, I mean? If you tell us what the whole thing is about before we're ready, will we get pneumonia and die?
good for you tdp im glad if it has made you feel better i was actually thinking of starting my own religion based on the fast of the pyramids were put here about 25 billion years ago by the great being ect ect ect and anyway you pay me 3000 dollars and i will teach you to feel better than scientology can make you
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scientology has done nothing but improve my life...you dont have to pay money or attend classes.. i have read most of the books for free haha...and i still have an unbroken family, and i dont think i am about to be killed...dont judge figure it out yourself
scientology has done nothing but lie...you do have to pay money and attend classes.. i have read most of the books for free haha...and thats the beginning of the brainwashing, and i dont think i am about to be indoctrinated ...dont judge figure it out yourself.
What a shame that the Lisa McPherson Trust disolved. Even more disturbing is that if you go to the former web site you are directed to a LRH tribute page. What a slap in the face!
That's not true. the old site was lisatrust dot net which is now a page for some financial trust crap. The archived version of the old LMT website still exists at lisatrust dot bogie dot nl.
$cientologists can stamp their feet all they like. This whole rotten, criminal, scamming cult is unravelling under the close scrutiny of the internet. They can control their brainwashed followers, but they can't control freedom of thought and speech on the net.
The truth is coming to get them. I salute you Tory.
you and Mark are very brave and cool as hell. I lost hope for many people that believe in scientology. but you are proof that u can turn back when it gets too much. Good job turning it around. I have great respect for you.
Tory, have you considered turning your story into a movie script? Nothing reaches the masses like a movie and the more who know your story the better.
Tory is a fabulous speaker. Listen to all 5 parts. She is very bright and has a great sence of humor. Speaking out against Scientology takes great courage and can be very challenging as BBC's investigative reporter, John Sweeney found out. See BBC Panorama "Scientology and ME".
I think its prince xenu is like satan or something in the $ientology religiol, so I would rather say " long live prince xenu" if what I know is right then.
What about all the victims ? The people who have been sucked in and brainwashed by it ? Do you want them to die ? Or would you rather clarify and perhaps say you mean the organizers, the people that run the whole sorry show ?
Good presentation. Its interesting to see how Tory's thinking has changed. Compare this presentation/interview with earlier ones. The longer she's been out of $cientology, the clearer her thoughts and thinking are.
Does anyone know if Tom Cruise was forced to divorce Nicole for the same reasons? I want to tell you I admire your ability to go against these thugs. Have they ever threatend you or your family? Good luck and stay safe.
Over eight minutes in, and the speaker STILL hasn't taken the podium. Somebody get the hook and yank off Professor Nerdpack already!
joeypolanski 1 year ago
Go skepticism and humanism! Two -isms I like!
GREGSCOT 1 year ago
The introduction was so long I decided to navigate away from this video.
I guess it could have been interesting to watch...
jagara1 2 years ago
If only there was a time slider at the bottom of the video
groovebirdvalley 2 years ago
I don't have the time to find the interesting parts in talks on every single youtube video I watch.
It is up to the speaker/editor to engage the audience from the beginning and not rely on the audience having to edit the talk themselves by using the slider.
jagara1 2 years ago
Tory is cool, a gr8 gal n sexy 2 (im 27 from dublin if your interested:-) haha gr8 work Im glad you got out I did the communication course and then did my background work n got off at the first stop, I took my girlfriend with me who wantd to go clear, Its creating its own reality which is very very dangerous and it has 2 be stopped. gr8 work by all involved and keep it up
daveindublin1 2 years ago
The latest installment of SOK has been posted. Google "SOK Kneeophyte" for the Scientology parody everyone's talking about!
Featuring SOK's campaign against optometry and founder C. Spaught-Runn's invention, the "Eam-eater".
Canaderek 2 years ago
tryss,
WERE YOU LURED IN?
ARE YOU RESISTING CHANGE?
aio976 2 years ago
her husband is a dick for doing that :|:|
Fair2k7 2 years ago 4
Tory starts around 8:15 if you're only interested in her content.
telekt 2 years ago 26
Cheers mate!
holydave 2 years ago
thank you because I was about to turn off this list of group stuff I don't know of or care about
daniebelle81 2 years ago
waiting for the guy to let Tory speak... ;) patiently.... well past six minutes is getting irritating...buffering or I would skip forward. Damn. Edit this thing willya! ;)
j/k almost...
xxxild 2 years ago 2
Thanks for the heads up....I'm clicking my way past it--as fast as the video can load.
GetMeThere1 2 years ago
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why don't you just check by clicking along the timeline you lazy bastard....
tryss 2 years ago
That's what "clicking my way past it" mean, moron.
GetMeThere1 2 years ago
it's called clicking backwards then lawl use some logic hahaha
tryss 2 years ago
Sorry. I didn't know you wrote the "Idiot's guide to YouTube..." and that you titled it after yourself.
GetMeThere1 2 years ago 2
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It's called common sense... you obviously just demonstrated you don't have any hahaha
tryss 2 years ago
I've seen trolls before. Never came across a petty troll though. Why not stop wasting my time, and using up space on an otherwise relatively important series of videos.
GetMeThere1 2 years ago 3
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Why do you care what I think so much?
You obviously took some time to write a response and wasted more time lawl and why do u care about what i think so bad? if you didn't give a shit you'd just ignore me... evidently not LAWL PWNT
ps. go ahead and type your response, care bear :)
tryss 2 years ago
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If you are in the vancouver Canada area, our next protest on scientology is on april 11th 2009 11am. If you watch the video, and feel like these people should be opposed, come out to their office downtown. There will be cake, bad 80th music and killer LULS.
Everyone is welcomed. Come and see the epic battle for yourself.
We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us
yeungx 2 years ago 4
Skip Mr. Boring in the front end just get to the Tory the Brave at 8:15 believe me I just did you a big favor.
CMO5569 3 years ago 10
I watched the whole beginning and noticed your comment 8:27...I cried a little.
janfu79 3 years ago 6
thantks so mcuh lol
JillyX92 2 years ago
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It looks like that the audience is made up of about 10-15 people and on the question "how many of you have read Dianetics? "Tory said: "ok... some of you".
So, who she is talking to ???
Anyway, the point is: You ( Tory)spent
30 years in SCN before to find out, as you claim, that SCN is a fraud ?
What a idiot !
Actually your husband left you because he discovered your sexual relationship with Mark Bunker and with others SCN critics, tell me it is not so !
marcotai 3 years ago
Hahahaha!! Cry me a river Mr.Bullshit
techniza 3 years ago
Did you see this in Zeitgeist?
XENUTV 3 years ago
Wise Beard Man:
His Words Are Wise
His Face Is Beard
P.S.
GO ANONYMOUS
Anonyymous77 3 years ago 5
Wise Beard Man:
His Words Are Wise
His Face Is Beard
Slayer100 3 years ago 3
anyone to even join scientology is a joke, you all need help to even think this kind of thing is real. Hey I have one for you all. Im a man but I talked with my dog and he said he is jesus. We need your money and then we can show you the way. It starts at only 5 easy payments of 500 bucks. send your money to 1122 burns st. paul mn. 55106
jt55106 3 years ago 17
did you get my $ yet?
mikemikemofo 3 years ago 3
Still not convinced.
derekwilliams1982 3 years ago 2
You need to dig deeper, you need to find out about the harassment, the disconections, the suicides, the forced abortions, the child slavery, the Rpf, suspected murders etc etc.
You shoult check out the paulette cooper testimony watch?v=JvXozEshc2Q
Heres a quick vid featuring ex-scientologists
watch?v=c5chreUQpho
NicNasty1981 3 years ago 6
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Yeah, I'm familiar with most of the anti-scientology stuff out there. I fully understand the destructive nature of the organization. Just the same, there is much I've gotten from listening to the LRH lectures.
derekwilliams1982 3 years ago
Well its good that you got something positive, but LRH did get his information for many different sources. owes much to early Freudian ideas. For example, LRHs "Reactive Mind" obviously derives from Freud's "Unconscious". The notion that this mind thinks in identities comes from Korzybski's General Semantics.Initially, before deciding that he was the sole source of Dianetics and Scientology, Hubbard acknowledged his debt to these thinkers. Auditing and the offer techniques come from Pavlov and
NicNasty1981 3 years ago 4
William Sargant.
LRH goes 2 great lengths 2 vilify psychiatry but If u read into these guys also American psychiatrists Grinker & Speigel and English psychiatrist William Sargant and you'll see where he gets his ideas from.
13heathens has done loads of videos going thru his books but heres 1 brief vid on his Philosophy watch?v=i_rph_dgChQ
When it comes to psychiatry/psycology theyre both open to scrutiny by 10s of 1000s & publish their papers openly
Plus theyve had 50 years of growth
NicNasty1981 3 years ago 4
Yeah insanity.
KidsWithGuns1992 3 years ago
As nasty said, Hubbard was skilled at renaming and reinterpreting ideas already investigated. Look up the interview of harlan ellison and robin williams... Many who knew hubbard in the early days agree that he succeeded in his goal to create a religion, which he voiced as his financial gold mine. Harlan Ellison Robin Williams Interview.
yuothineyesasian 3 years ago
I am aware of L. Ron Hubbard's plagiarism. But the way I see it, he did nothing different that Joseph Smith did in creating new scriptures from his careful study of the Old and New Testaments. Mormonism has guided the lives of millions of adherents despite many of the more destructive actions of Mormon pioneers. It's the same with Scientology.
derekwilliams1982 3 years ago
Did you look up the interview? I bet not. It would be worthless for you to bring up another religion as I am an atheist. For fact, the mormons and scientology are the religions of totalinarism that still exist prevantly in America, but scientology is by far the worst of the two.
yuothineyesasian 3 years ago 2
Yes, I did. Just the same, I have gotten much from reading the Dianetics and Scientology books he wrote. They are improving my life. You really do not have to join the church in order to get much from the Tech. The way I see it, most Anonymous members have not even bothered to read the books. Why protest something you have not even investigated?
derekwilliams1982 3 years ago
we do not protest CoS, we protest its nefarious methods in luring and keeping followers, we protest its attempts to silence the critics, we protest its policy of disconnection. We do not protest Xenu, we do not protest thetans, we do not protest your technologies. They are your beliefs and you are welcome to keep and spread them as long as you market it using truth, not deceit.
gabberis 3 years ago 4
Fair enough!
(derekwilliams1982)
DEREKinNYC 3 years ago
Why don't you or any other scientologist just tell us what it's about? Specifically, I mean? If you tell us what the whole thing is about before we're ready, will we get pneumonia and die?
encliticcopula 3 years ago 9
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encliticcopula, why don't you try taking a couple of courses or read a couple of books by L. Ron Hubbard. You might learn something.
derekwilliams1982 3 years ago
Space Operas is the basis.
Extracting money from the gullible is the purpose.
It doesn't take much research.
Thereafter, it's threats and actual misdeeds against anyone who criticizes the system.
Be aware.
draagon66 3 years ago 4
I'll keep it in mind. Thanks for your concern!
derekwilliams1982 3 years ago
5stars
warriorprincess65 3 years ago
good for you mate, what was the turning point? whats the best way of damaging such a dangerous cult?
olihill101 4 years ago
good for you tdp im glad if it has made you feel better i was actually thinking of starting my own religion based on the fast of the pyramids were put here about 25 billion years ago by the great being ect ect ect and anyway you pay me 3000 dollars and i will teach you to feel better than scientology can make you
diehard1384 4 years ago 2
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scientology has done nothing but improve my life...you dont have to pay money or attend classes.. i have read most of the books for free haha...and i still have an unbroken family, and i dont think i am about to be killed...dont judge figure it out yourself
TDP788 4 years ago
The auditors have really done a job on you haven't they.
Lam1ngton 4 years ago
it is true that it makes some ppl's life better
though one must not agree with having celebrity section of the church or having to pay plenty to achieve OVXVII
zzzxtreme 4 years ago
scientology has done nothing but lie...you do have to pay money and attend classes.. i have read most of the books for free haha...and thats the beginning of the brainwashing, and i dont think i am about to be indoctrinated ...dont judge figure it out yourself.
xBLiTZxKRiEGx 3 years ago
clever woman
MissCheekyCow 4 years ago 3
no drugs in scientology? count me out!
deneco4 4 years ago 11
LOL
riveroose 4 years ago
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I'm glad you stated how Dianetics and Scientology saved you from a crazy wild drug addicted life and helped you lead a happy successful life.
King1821E 4 years ago
On addiction for another....LOL
putittogether 4 years ago 2
That comment was for King1821E
putittogether 4 years ago
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Great Information on Scientology @
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MadisonLee555 4 years ago
Great Information on Scientology! Google for Clambake and Truth-seeker
beverins 4 years ago
proximodiz is an apologist for scientology.
cheapy2006 4 years ago
heroine
RAQDES 4 years ago
What a shame that the Lisa McPherson Trust disolved. Even more disturbing is that if you go to the former web site you are directed to a LRH tribute page. What a slap in the face!
yeldawk 4 years ago
That's not true. the old site was lisatrust dot net which is now a page for some financial trust crap. The archived version of the old LMT website still exists at lisatrust dot bogie dot nl.
XENUTV 4 years ago
I followed the link at Operation Clambake, lisamcphersontrust dot net and that has a link to a site that states,
"L Ron Hubbard Tribute
scientologists pay tribute to L Ron Hubbard here. See what they say"
Check out the page for yourself, again, what a slap in the face!
yeldawk 4 years ago
I went to that, unbelievable. Makes you wonder alot.
AradiaMagick 4 years ago
lisamcpherson dot org has everything that the old site did...right?
riveroose 4 years ago
$cientologists can stamp their feet all they like. This whole rotten, criminal, scamming cult is unravelling under the close scrutiny of the internet. They can control their brainwashed followers, but they can't control freedom of thought and speech on the net.
The truth is coming to get them. I salute you Tory.
itsallaloadofbs 4 years ago
you and Mark are very brave and cool as hell. I lost hope for many people that believe in scientology. but you are proof that u can turn back when it gets too much. Good job turning it around. I have great respect for you.
conkertheevilsquirre 4 years ago
Tory, have you considered turning your story into a movie script? Nothing reaches the masses like a movie and the more who know your story the better.
devilbear 4 years ago
Tory is a fabulous speaker. Listen to all 5 parts. She is very bright and has a great sence of humor. Speaking out against Scientology takes great courage and can be very challenging as BBC's investigative reporter, John Sweeney found out. See BBC Panorama "Scientology and ME".
ExScientologist 4 years ago
This bitch is awesome!
MrWicked15 4 years ago
This lady is really cool.. I love listening to her talk she's so funny
dumpypotatoes 4 years ago
DOWN WITH $ientology. DEATH TO PRINCE XENU
virtualathleet 4 years ago
I think its prince xenu is like satan or something in the $ientology religiol, so I would rather say " long live prince xenu" if what I know is right then.
hennybonny 4 years ago
OPERATION CLAMBAKE
TimeForTimer 4 years ago
traitor
pierregarcia 4 years ago
lol
putittogether 4 years ago
lol its funny because they take themselves so seriosuly, and everyone else just laughs. p.s i sold acid to L.Ron Hubbard.
robrobrobrob888 4 years ago
I hope all the scum that comprises your cult dies. All of you. You all are fucking garbage. Worthless people...every last one of you.
muscley66 4 years ago
What about all the victims ? The people who have been sucked in and brainwashed by it ? Do you want them to die ? Or would you rather clarify and perhaps say you mean the organizers, the people that run the whole sorry show ?
Lam1ngton 4 years ago 2
Agree, they use these dumb people ..chew them up and spit them out ..to rott. They are the coldest ..worse than the nazi's
SidneyXda 4 years ago 2
One name-Lisa McPherson. Scientology ruined her life
bnye1991 4 years ago
Scientology ruined her life? No, they ENDED it!
linuxguy999 4 years ago 6
Good presentation. Its interesting to see how Tory's thinking has changed. Compare this presentation/interview with earlier ones. The longer she's been out of $cientology, the clearer her thoughts and thinking are.
g12er 5 years ago
only a fucktard would join this fucking cult!
silence1984 5 years ago
thank you for this post.
fla0303 5 years ago
The Center for Inquiry is a great organization.
Thraxfan54 5 years ago
When was this talk given?
nirvgardengod 5 years ago
March 7, 2005
XENUTV 5 years ago
Does anyone know if Tom Cruise was forced to divorce Nicole for the same reasons? I want to tell you I admire your ability to go against these thugs. Have they ever threatend you or your family? Good luck and stay safe.
PavDaGreek 4 years ago
You know that's an interesting question about Tom Cruise. It wouldn't suprise me really.
Lam1ngton 4 years ago