About a Muslim and a Christian talking

[alex89843]

is Jesus's name meitoned in the kroran?

[supersaynt]

@alex89843 Of course it is. Its mentioned several times and there is a whole chapter named after Jesus mother Mary.

[alex89843]

yes but it is not the same Jesus that is in the Bible .

[supersaynt]

@alex89843 i think there was only one Jesus christ. History shows that the Historical Jesus was not followed as divine in his lifetime but followed as the messiah. And that agrees with islam. I encourage you to look into what Jesus' brother james believed and preached after jesus was gone and youll see that even his family didnt think him divine.

[alex89843]

if His family did not see Him devin explain why John the Baptist said"here comes the Lamb of God to take away the sin of the world."John was Jesus' causin.

sir I'am not a muslim.I have studied islam for one year.read some in the quran. even thought about converting.but I find no assurance of Salvation in islam .even through the quran ,no offence.

[supersaynt]

@alex89843 Well speaking in a scholarly sense no one accpets the gospels to be very accurate in any way. We hsitorically have no idea who the authors were but we know only that they were profesional writers and that they spoke greek. The oldest manuscripts are hundreds of years away from jesus in different cities and different language. So as far as "assurance" goes i found i couldnt count on the gospels as reliable in a litteral sense even though the moral lessons are very good my friend.

[supersaynt]

alex89853 - And your right that we believe that only God knows who will go to heaven and that we have very little control over that. we also believe that no man can pay for the sins of the other like the bible says in Ezekiel18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

[alex89843]

sir.I bleive the Bible(every verse,every chapter ,every book).to be the Word of God.having no error.which does not matter.that is not what we was talking about.what we was talking about.assurance in islam.I find assurance of Salvation in Christianity.if islam is the true relgion why does'nt it offer.the assurance?the love?the mercy?the grace?

[adadanks]

No offence meant but...

A Question for people who follow the Muslim faith......Do you think the Bible is accurate and true?

A Question for people who follow a Christian faith...... Do you think the Quran is accurate and true?

Thought not......having more than one God to choose from is a big problem if you need to validate your particular faith.

We cant have more than one god running the show can we.....but you religious types seem to sweep that under the carpet.

[AnaMurida]

its true. just a few weeks ago, i was looking at a painting of a blonde baby Jesus with a Christian woman, and i told her, that in the Islamic version Jesus was hebrew and perhaps not blonde. she was surprised and asked if we really did believ in Christ. i told her he was a great messenger of God and that we are waiting for his return.. and some more. she was impressed. if more Christians knew us better, there would be much more tolerance inshallah.

[Jesusforus]

The name 'Allah' existed among Arabs a long time before Mohammad made him his false god. Allah was the "moon god", among 360 gods of pagan arabs. Mohammad made these gods in to one god. And Kaaba in mecca was the temple of these 360 gods, which Muslims all over the world now worship

[Jesusforus]

The only way to know to know God as Father, is to know Jesus. Jesus just didnt become the Son of God when he was born to virgin mary, Jesus was the Word of God, who was with God before all creations, and that Word became flesh. Jesus is the living Word and the Word which gives life. Jesus is the Word who existed before all creations, He is the Son of God, He is the Word came from Father. In the beginning, was the Word, Word was with God and Word was God.

[Jesusforus]

If a person dies and after 2000 years, which document about him should be true? Is it the one which was written when he was living or the one which was written 600 years after his death. Muslims, dump your false "moon-god Allah" and accept the Heavenly Father and his Son and His word, Jesus Christ, as your saviour

[rttnmnky377]

what documents are u comparing?

since wen do Muslims worship a "moon-god"

Muslims do not belive in 3 gods. They believe in one. No side attachments. "He is the One, Living Eternal...He does not beget nor was begotten". This is the true monotheistic state.

[rttnmnky377]

Please, please do not act like a scholar of anthroplogy. Do not speak until you have studied and reasearched Islam thouroughly and your own faith thouroughly for that matter. In fact if we were able to go back and see the words of the orignial Bible. The Orginal revelation of Jesus, peace and blessings be on him, then none of these conflicts would be present.

There is nothing, NOTING wrong with Christianity.

[rttnmnky377]

THere is NOTHINg incorrect about Islam. Same goes for Judiasim. All are the same message to man. THe same word from God, sent to different peoples. Islam is the climatical message. The only reason there is any problems and extreme disagreements and misconceptopns in all religions is because of man. Man corrupts the religion. The people that practice any religion hinder from the truth.

Jesus,

[rttnmnky377]

peace and blessings of his soul, is not God's son. For if god were to have a child, there would have to be a mother; thus the prevarication of the Holy Trinity is impossible if you claim to be a true Christian. .I do not wish to convert you. I do not wish to change the laws by which i abide, follow, and love (my religion),

I am not telling you to dump anything. I can't stand for ignorant people to say things and stand by alloting it. Please educate yourself. Knowlege is more than wealth