Sofia's blitz game against Korchnoi is hilarious. You would have thought that the old legendary git would have gained a little perspective on life, love, chess and loss. I smile, he still wants to win badly and I can't begrudge him that.
She is still well below the best males! Good for women. They need someone of some stature. I really think it is hormonal as well as intellectual. Men think more aggressively - that is a useful attitude in chess. Men do have on average higher IQs than do women. There will be the occasional outlier - that's Judith - not taking anything away from her - she is great.
As a male chess fan she is a fierce talent, incredibley graceful and beautiful and conducts herself wonderfully. The chess world is all the more richer for the Polgar sisters. She has blown many an arrogant male mind away, and some of the best. She is masoginists nightmare.
@mylovelyman2 That's mysogynist. BTW, She's the greatest female player ever yet is only 45th in the world, still an amazing achievement but men are more geared toward chess with their visuo-spatial superiority and deep linear thinking/mathematical ability, however women are good holistic thinkers and can see to a shallower level very quickly and that's why the gap is much smaller in blitz. Yes, I find genius women very sexy.
Good analysis and I agree with your take on the male physiological advantage, However, they demonstrate quite powerfully that practice is the mother of skill. For a further discussion on this please read Matthew Syed's brilliant book Bounce.
@IndrasBlade77 she's 45th ranked now, but in her prime she was in the top ten, mention that in your comparison. at her best, she was better than 99.99% of all players. not bad.
@dovespin1 But when you consider she is the best female player ever, and didn't come close to being number one... It definitely says something about the capacity for women to play chess. On the other hand, they do child birth better than men, and that is arguably a more important function than playing chess.
@MADMAC572 Child birth? Really? That's the best you can come up with? It's not even a talent, dude. Judit's been in the top ten, so I'd say she had a shot at being number one, and didn't quite make it. Give her some respect. Given that a dumb computer can play better than any human alive, I suspect chess is not really the intellectual pursuit we once thought, so let's not equate chess with intelligence. I suspect the best players are men because so many more play than women.
@dovespin1 I don't know, some women are better at conceiving and giving birth than others. It might be a talent, albeit one that's tough to groom. I suspect the best players are men because there is something intrinsic in the game that men are better able to exploit. It plays to mens intellectual strength (men and women having intellectual strengths in different areas). I am sure at some point this will be scientifically demonstrated, however, one way or the other.
@dovespin1 As for giving her some respect, you did read my post right? If I played her 100 times, I would probably lose 100 times, maybe draw a couple if I was lucky. And I've been playing since I was six (I'm 50 now). I think I pretty much explained that in the previous post. So you lost me on the respect issue.
@Vithification Don't disagree with your stats. There are very few who could " hang" with the list of Talent you have listed there. Infact one of them is arguabley one of the greatest of all time. ( kaspy, although Mr Robert James Fischer still edges him for me.
Both millions of male and female stand below them including myself sadly. I do accept that there are innate physiological differences between the male and female brain and this gives a genetic edge.
@mylovelyman2 Vishy Anand, the current world chess champion, shares your view about Fischer. In an interview last year, Anand said Fischer is "the greatest chess player who ever lived." Other greats, among them Mikhail Tal, concur with the assessment.
@Vithification I have this arguement often with boxing fans - it's not your ability that counts, but what you do with it. Fisher didn't play enough. So in terms of achievement, he comes well short of several players. And unlike Mohammed Ali, who lived in the lions den for years to stand on principal (and is almost universally admired for it now) Fisher simply hid out in exile while spewing filth all the while. I'm afraid he's a player I can't admire, in spite of obvious talent.
However it is a complex issue and I don't think it is decided soley on genetic tendancies. The amount of time you are able to dedicate for practice in the pursuit of your chosen area of expertise has a huge impact on performance and outcome. This is an interesting point as women who are mothers simply do not have the time available for this. I am a husband and a father and I am intimately involved with the upbringing of my two daughters. My wife still invests more time.
@mylovelyman2 I'm of the mind that very little distinguishes one gender from the other in most human endeavors. There are plenty of very bright, able women in every profession I'm aware of.
What annoys me is the extreme feminist view which simply denies that men are superior to women in sporting events. If you take even that most non-contact of sports, golf, you'll see that the likes of Michele Wie and Annika Sorenstam couldn't even make the cut into PGA events. What does that tell us?
I completely agree with you. It is now well beyond speculation and is firmly rooted in studies in brain anatomy and physiology that there are significant differences in the male and female brain. The error that militant feminism makes is that it mistakes difference in ability for difference in worth, which is insane. The male brain is wired differently but that does not make it better. IMHO memory is an important cognitive process in chess play.
@mylovelyman2 I harp on about Fischer and Kasparov to a lesser extent, these giants had outstanding memories. It is well reported that Fischer could recount every game that he had played, that is an amazing feat. Ivanuchuck and Marozovich have equally impressive encyclopedic memories when it comes to opening theory. My point is that differences in gender memory are not significantly different A commentator earlier suggested why this is why the gap in blitz is less. I think he/ she is right.
@mylovelyman2 I recall an anecdote about Fischer one day meeting up with an old competitor-friend of his, Frederick Olafson. Fischer was able to remember a move Olafson had made in the middle game against some undistinguished player 20+ years previous. Olafson asked him how he could remember such a detail, and Fischer replied matter of factly that he had watched the game, so how could he forget?
@Vithification I believe you might have taken superior and used it in the wrong context my friend. Males are by no means superior in athletics when compared to females, by the same measure that the Aryan race is not one bit higher on the totem pole then everyone else. Superior implys a fundamental difference in all abilitys that can not be overcome by anything short of evolution. This my friend, is pig headed of you to say in the above context. I hope that was not your intention.....
@Vithification As oppossed to me. I would be 0-38 against Anand, 0-6 against Carlsen, 0-21 against Kramnik, 0-13 against Kasparov, 0-8 against Pnomariov and 0-31 against Topalez. So relative to me she is a great player. And as Einstein pointed out, relativity is everything.
you cant even type misogynist right and you're the sexist here, assuming most players she plays against are a bunch of "arrogant male minds". sounds like the delusional fabrication of a fanatical feminist more than something that is rooted in reality. when is the last time you heard a chess player spewing macho crap towards her? or shown no class to her at the board? yeah never you dumbass.
@joyfulvulture Hey Joyvulture, go get a life. Actually read something that you have not penned, you might, and I say might, just learn something. Secondly, making assumptions about anything you know very little about is likely to make an even bigger ass of you than it is me. I checked out your site, this is your thing, your party trick. You go round trolling, making inciteful, inane, misinformed and fallacious comments and you think it gains you some credibility. Grow up!
"Secondly, making assumptions about anything you know very little about"
oh the irony... you dont know a single top chess player and assume a lot of them are "arrogant male minds", you dont know me and assume a boatload of negative stuff about me, yet im the one making blind assumptions here? lol project much idiot?
just accept you made a dumb comment and move on, your snobby little ego rants arent gonna change anything about it, only show you're an insecure fool.
No assumptions needed joyfulvulture just take a small selection from your comments page.
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@mylovelyman2 Well, she lost that game. I'm not denying she's a talented player, or good for the game, but "beautiful"? Well, physically that's a stretch. I don't want to be unkind or anything, but let's just say her strength lies in her intellect, vice her physical qualities.
Hmmmm, not sure where to start with this, as I am not sure whether you are just out for an argument or whether you are genuinely interested. Beauty is a subjective judgment and it's perception varies. To further complicate the matter, what we find attractive in another person actually incorporates non physical attributes also. I stand by my comments. On a purely physical level, I think she is cute. This beauty is enriched by her personal demeanor and conduct.
@mylovelyman2 I agree with everything you said. I don't know her personally, so maybe she is quite charming. On a purely physical level, I do not find her attractive. I am sure some men do. I would guess, though, that the majority of men would not find her physically all that beautiful. But each man most certainly has his own criteria for judging beauty, and they are also most certainly not the same.
@adrie7777 I don't know if they are not civilized, but there is something slightly effete about them (not all, but most). They do not strike me as physically tough even a little bit. Mentally yes, but not physically. It's almost as though they are playing to a streotype.
@kevlarunderwear22 No, a2 instead of f2 wasnt the mistake. Kc6 was, she could have done f2 instead of that and it would still have been drawn the same way.
The total number of men that practice chess is much greater than that of women therefore the elite master group is also greater so be careful with fast conclutions
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Polgar is sexy in some way. I could easily fuck her
MrRazorblade999 2 months ago
why grand master dont see f2??
alhnon99 2 months ago
@alhnon99 because it's a blitz?
hthought 2 months ago
I love how Anand and Magnus watch
squathacker 2 months ago
Is this BigFoot footage?
darkchaos454 2 months ago
shes put on weight...
toltec19 3 months ago
i would beat her pussy up and id beat her up on brain board
THACREAMOFSUMYUNGGUY 3 months ago
I think Ponomariov needs to take a bath
SRDTL 4 months ago
at the end of the video, take that bitch!!!
kratos919191 4 months ago
Carlsen and Anand are about to fall asleep
JuicersSuck 4 months ago
Hahaha, I love seeing Polgar lose, the stuck up bitch.
Kosteniuk is a much nicer woman player.
CaraBrimleyRules 4 months ago
swivel video,, not gud.. make it better next tym
mcbhench1 5 months ago
Haha I like the cammeos by Anand, Carlsen and I think Gelfand for a second
btr73186 6 months ago
Sofia's blitz game against Korchnoi is hilarious. You would have thought that the old legendary git would have gained a little perspective on life, love, chess and loss. I smile, he still wants to win badly and I can't begrudge him that.
mylovelyman2 6 months ago
She is still well below the best males! Good for women. They need someone of some stature. I really think it is hormonal as well as intellectual. Men think more aggressively - that is a useful attitude in chess. Men do have on average higher IQs than do women. There will be the occasional outlier - that's Judith - not taking anything away from her - she is great.
mlcollins10 6 months ago
Always happy to embrace a well meaning correction. Mysongynist. Thankyou.
mylovelyman2 6 months ago
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MrPeto1212 7 months ago
this guy who post these videos can't resist the temptation to move the camera around...so rubbish
KnightOnE5Square 8 months ago
What is that field-hand doing playing chess?
RaniaIsAwesome 8 months ago
wtf she's dressed like a matrioska
SmotPoker09 8 months ago
lol she got pwnd
MilitaryMan006 8 months ago
wow lol carlsen and anand watching no worries lol
aqwdemonmaster 9 months ago
dont move cam when the most exciting moments please ok?
donsolitario1 9 months ago 3
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HAHAHAHAHAHA stupid polgar hahahah
pecora01 10 months ago
As a male chess fan she is a fierce talent, incredibley graceful and beautiful and conducts herself wonderfully. The chess world is all the more richer for the Polgar sisters. She has blown many an arrogant male mind away, and some of the best. She is masoginists nightmare.
mylovelyman2 1 year ago 24
@mylovelyman2 I think the "Beauty" part is stretching it a bit.
Nickalispicalis 1 year ago
@mylovelyman2 That's mysogynist. BTW, She's the greatest female player ever yet is only 45th in the world, still an amazing achievement but men are more geared toward chess with their visuo-spatial superiority and deep linear thinking/mathematical ability, however women are good holistic thinkers and can see to a shallower level very quickly and that's why the gap is much smaller in blitz. Yes, I find genius women very sexy.
IndrasBlade77 6 months ago
@IndrasBlade77
Good analysis and I agree with your take on the male physiological advantage, However, they demonstrate quite powerfully that practice is the mother of skill. For a further discussion on this please read Matthew Syed's brilliant book Bounce.
mylovelyman2 6 months ago
@IndrasBlade77 she's 45th ranked now, but in her prime she was in the top ten, mention that in your comparison. at her best, she was better than 99.99% of all players. not bad.
dovespin1 6 months ago
@dovespin1 But when you consider she is the best female player ever, and didn't come close to being number one... It definitely says something about the capacity for women to play chess. On the other hand, they do child birth better than men, and that is arguably a more important function than playing chess.
MADMAC572 1 week ago
@MADMAC572 Child birth? Really? That's the best you can come up with? It's not even a talent, dude. Judit's been in the top ten, so I'd say she had a shot at being number one, and didn't quite make it. Give her some respect. Given that a dumb computer can play better than any human alive, I suspect chess is not really the intellectual pursuit we once thought, so let's not equate chess with intelligence. I suspect the best players are men because so many more play than women.
dovespin1 1 week ago
@dovespin1 I don't know, some women are better at conceiving and giving birth than others. It might be a talent, albeit one that's tough to groom. I suspect the best players are men because there is something intrinsic in the game that men are better able to exploit. It plays to mens intellectual strength (men and women having intellectual strengths in different areas). I am sure at some point this will be scientifically demonstrated, however, one way or the other.
MADMAC572 1 week ago
@dovespin1 As for giving her some respect, you did read my post right? If I played her 100 times, I would probably lose 100 times, maybe draw a couple if I was lucky. And I've been playing since I was six (I'm 50 now). I think I pretty much explained that in the previous post. So you lost me on the respect issue.
MADMAC572 1 week ago
@mylovelyman2 Polgar has a losing record against most of the top men.
She's 10-28 against Anand, 0-6 against Carlsen, 1-20 against Kramnik, 1-12 against Kasparov, 3-5 against Ponomariov, 15-16 against Topalov, etc.
The greatest woman player of all time simply cannot hang with the best men in the game.
Vithification 6 months ago
@Vithification Don't disagree with your stats. There are very few who could " hang" with the list of Talent you have listed there. Infact one of them is arguabley one of the greatest of all time. ( kaspy, although Mr Robert James Fischer still edges him for me.
Both millions of male and female stand below them including myself sadly. I do accept that there are innate physiological differences between the male and female brain and this gives a genetic edge.
mylovelyman2 6 months ago
@mylovelyman2 Vishy Anand, the current world chess champion, shares your view about Fischer. In an interview last year, Anand said Fischer is "the greatest chess player who ever lived." Other greats, among them Mikhail Tal, concur with the assessment.
Vithification 6 months ago
@Vithification I have this arguement often with boxing fans - it's not your ability that counts, but what you do with it. Fisher didn't play enough. So in terms of achievement, he comes well short of several players. And unlike Mohammed Ali, who lived in the lions den for years to stand on principal (and is almost universally admired for it now) Fisher simply hid out in exile while spewing filth all the while. I'm afraid he's a player I can't admire, in spite of obvious talent.
MADMAC572 1 week ago
However it is a complex issue and I don't think it is decided soley on genetic tendancies. The amount of time you are able to dedicate for practice in the pursuit of your chosen area of expertise has a huge impact on performance and outcome. This is an interesting point as women who are mothers simply do not have the time available for this. I am a husband and a father and I am intimately involved with the upbringing of my two daughters. My wife still invests more time.
mylovelyman2 6 months ago
@mylovelyman2 I'm of the mind that very little distinguishes one gender from the other in most human endeavors. There are plenty of very bright, able women in every profession I'm aware of.
What annoys me is the extreme feminist view which simply denies that men are superior to women in sporting events. If you take even that most non-contact of sports, golf, you'll see that the likes of Michele Wie and Annika Sorenstam couldn't even make the cut into PGA events. What does that tell us?
Vithification 6 months ago
@Vithification
I completely agree with you. It is now well beyond speculation and is firmly rooted in studies in brain anatomy and physiology that there are significant differences in the male and female brain. The error that militant feminism makes is that it mistakes difference in ability for difference in worth, which is insane. The male brain is wired differently but that does not make it better. IMHO memory is an important cognitive process in chess play.
mylovelyman2 6 months ago
@mylovelyman2 I harp on about Fischer and Kasparov to a lesser extent, these giants had outstanding memories. It is well reported that Fischer could recount every game that he had played, that is an amazing feat. Ivanuchuck and Marozovich have equally impressive encyclopedic memories when it comes to opening theory. My point is that differences in gender memory are not significantly different A commentator earlier suggested why this is why the gap in blitz is less. I think he/ she is right.
mylovelyman2 6 months ago
@mylovelyman2 I recall an anecdote about Fischer one day meeting up with an old competitor-friend of his, Frederick Olafson. Fischer was able to remember a move Olafson had made in the middle game against some undistinguished player 20+ years previous. Olafson asked him how he could remember such a detail, and Fischer replied matter of factly that he had watched the game, so how could he forget?
Vithification 6 months ago
@mylovelyman2 In one sentence you've summed the matter up brilliantly:
"The error that militant feminism makes is that it mistakes difference in ability for difference in worth, which is insane."
Vithification 6 months ago
@Vithification I believe you might have taken superior and used it in the wrong context my friend. Males are by no means superior in athletics when compared to females, by the same measure that the Aryan race is not one bit higher on the totem pole then everyone else. Superior implys a fundamental difference in all abilitys that can not be overcome by anything short of evolution. This my friend, is pig headed of you to say in the above context. I hope that was not your intention.....
tcpwrap 5 months ago
@Vithification As oppossed to me. I would be 0-38 against Anand, 0-6 against Carlsen, 0-21 against Kramnik, 0-13 against Kasparov, 0-8 against Pnomariov and 0-31 against Topalez. So relative to me she is a great player. And as Einstein pointed out, relativity is everything.
MADMAC572 1 week ago
@mylovelyman2
you cant even type misogynist right and you're the sexist here, assuming most players she plays against are a bunch of "arrogant male minds". sounds like the delusional fabrication of a fanatical feminist more than something that is rooted in reality. when is the last time you heard a chess player spewing macho crap towards her? or shown no class to her at the board? yeah never you dumbass.
joyfulvulture 4 months ago 3
@joyfulvulture Hey Joyvulture, go get a life. Actually read something that you have not penned, you might, and I say might, just learn something. Secondly, making assumptions about anything you know very little about is likely to make an even bigger ass of you than it is me. I checked out your site, this is your thing, your party trick. You go round trolling, making inciteful, inane, misinformed and fallacious comments and you think it gains you some credibility. Grow up!
mylovelyman2 3 months ago
@mylovelyman2
"Secondly, making assumptions about anything you know very little about"
oh the irony... you dont know a single top chess player and assume a lot of them are "arrogant male minds", you dont know me and assume a boatload of negative stuff about me, yet im the one making blind assumptions here? lol project much idiot?
just accept you made a dumb comment and move on, your snobby little ego rants arent gonna change anything about it, only show you're an insecure fool.
joyfulvulture 3 months ago
@joyfulvulture :) Didn't think you would learn anything. Go well.
mylovelyman2 3 months ago
@joyfulvulture
No assumptions needed joyfulvulture just take a small selection from your comments page.
ClutchingintheMoment (1 week ago)
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AxMxF151 (1 month ago)
“ i hope you grow out of that "its cool and funny to talk shit over youtube" faze before you truely get your ass beat and waste TOO much of your life.”
But my personal favourite is
ritadiaz9000 (1 month ago)
"the only fucking retard here is you"
mylovelyman2 3 months ago
@mylovelyman2
so you say i'm a troll but then turn around and take some trolling victims' comments seriously. makes a lot of sense retard.
you're funny man, you think you're smart but you really are a fucking dumbass. you contradict yourself more than a 10 year old debater.
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mylovelyman2 3 months ago
@mylovelyman2 thats true. I came to known that polgar parallized Nigel Short.
mautand 3 months ago
@mylovelyman2 still out of 200 best chess players of all time, she is the only female.
goldewl 3 months ago
@mylovelyman2 If you like her so much, why don't you sleep with her?
FischerFan 1 month ago
@mylovelyman2 she most likely has a penis. shes like a 20x uglier and fatter hormione granger. :)
MaxDubz 2 weeks ago
@mylovelyman2 Well, she lost that game. I'm not denying she's a talented player, or good for the game, but "beautiful"? Well, physically that's a stretch. I don't want to be unkind or anything, but let's just say her strength lies in her intellect, vice her physical qualities.
MADMAC572 1 week ago
@MADMAC572
Hmmmm, not sure where to start with this, as I am not sure whether you are just out for an argument or whether you are genuinely interested. Beauty is a subjective judgment and it's perception varies. To further complicate the matter, what we find attractive in another person actually incorporates non physical attributes also. I stand by my comments. On a purely physical level, I think she is cute. This beauty is enriched by her personal demeanor and conduct.
mylovelyman2 1 week ago
@mylovelyman2 I agree with everything you said. I don't know her personally, so maybe she is quite charming. On a purely physical level, I do not find her attractive. I am sure some men do. I would guess, though, that the majority of men would not find her physically all that beautiful. But each man most certainly has his own criteria for judging beauty, and they are also most certainly not the same.
MADMAC572 5 days ago
Polgar is an awesome player but he she got pawned:)
Grallern1990 1 year ago
Polgar is a civilized person. Most chess playing men are not.
adrie7777 1 year ago
@adrie7777 I don't know if they are not civilized, but there is something slightly effete about them (not all, but most). They do not strike me as physically tough even a little bit. Mentally yes, but not physically. It's almost as though they are playing to a streotype.
MADMAC572 5 days ago
Nice chess pictures!
EYPYBIADHS 1 year ago
f2 instead of a2 and judit saves the game
kevlarunderwear22 1 year ago 24
@kevlarunderwear22 nice move.! i think you are right, but its blitz. Its always easy if you just watch
tassay 10 months ago
@kevlarunderwear22 No, a2 instead of f2 wasnt the mistake. Kc6 was, she could have done f2 instead of that and it would still have been drawn the same way.
MsJiggleman 7 months ago
@kevlarunderwear22 wins,not just saves the game!
pablogarciagate4 4 months ago
@kevlarunderwear22 sorry,i was wrong.it's a draw
pablogarciagate4 4 months ago
@kevlarunderwear22 She was pressed for time.
MADMAC572 1 week ago
@MADMAC572 no doubt, im not saying i would have found it, but ill bet judit finds it in that situation 85% of the time
kevlarunderwear22 1 week ago
judit is sexy. i dont think i could play her
kevlarunderwear22 1 year ago
The total number of men that practice chess is much greater than that of women therefore the elite master group is also greater so be careful with fast conclutions
osteilsi 2 years ago
women can't play on the same level as men. The only women who is in the top 100 players is judith polgar.Basically the one who played this game.
GoldeWC 2 years ago 2