Dude! Man youve been suckered! Palistinians are fat off the worlds donations! Meanwhile real needy people are ignored like southern Sudan. Leftist loony lies will not make the world a better place.
Zionism is simply the Freemasonic British-Israelite movement of the ruling aristocrats, who belive (seriously) that Dianas bloodline, and hence prince Williams, is that of King David, Jesus and Mohammed. It's a nonsense, but still, ordinary Jews have fallen for this Protestant Zionist hoax. Check out the webstie JewsAgainstZionism to see what Torah-true Jews think of British Imperial Zionism, i.e Israel as a British puppet state.
I guess you havent seen how palestine likes to strap there children with bombs an blow them up in Israel now that is a war crime you moron you have no clue your just an IRA wanabee
Down South, do you think that the fact the palestinians have been under pretty brutal occupation for the last 60+ years may have anything to do with why palestinian militants commit acts of terror in Israel?
LOL is that a joke or what?They dug there own hole commiting one act of terror after another useing school an hosiptial grounds to use for mortor attacks so they can hide behind the woman an children...an there is no excuse for strapping bombs on children an blowing them up thats just fucking sick ass shit an for anybody like you to say its ok is fukcing sick you need to take your ass to palestine an blow yourself up
Nobody (surely not me) said anything about anyone's neck in a noose,, nor did I say anything about anyone being after you, Honetly, you do seem to like to insert yourself into things, don;t you?
And, guess what? NOBODY, least of all ME, cares,,, All i know of you is that you MAKE UP LIES, all of the time. Like, Twitter? I have never been on twitter, and have NO desire to go there, yet you dreamed that one up, too..
@HatedByZionists You know, I just saw this comment (I had yt set for a while to NOT send me follow up, as it was too much Zionmail every day).. And, I agree (you know I do). I was with them for almost fifty YEARS. Then came cast-lead-ops, and the NEWS all over online, and I could not stand with tham any longer. I also have a bit of a different (closer) background than you,that made it even HARDER for me to change. but, the zios HERE sure as hell set me straight-against THEM, the Piggies..
@HatedByZionists Friend; this is what I was talking about.. It seems to just be fury, again; who is truly NOT worty of your time (or mine). Why I bothered, even today, I don't know. because I got it worked out pretty quickly. It is ALWAYS the same with FUry; ignore the video, follow people around (stalker), going back a year or more to find ONE video she is not blocked from (funny, I don't have that problem). If she was not SUCH an ugly wench (and i mean her mouth), she'd have no problem
@annebeck58 What do you mean "worty?" I'm not a woman. Far from it. You guys continue to live like scared animals. I never laughed as hard as I did when I saw the video hatedbyzionists made from his living room. What a laugh. He's got to be close to my age (48) but looks ten years older and haggard as the day is long. He said I'm a "gutless keyboard warrior." No true. I'm still in prime fighting condition...you still never answered my question. What's a Zionist? Explain it to me...
@ravdov571 It's amusing...these guys have nothing else to do. I've never met one of them who really has the facts straight...they twist them to suit their own inadequacies. The zionismhatred guy simply needs a bullet in head. The guy in this video thinks he's Jesus Christ. You meet allot of morons on you tube...then again, we need blithering, haggard losers like zionist hatred to balance things out. By the way, I'm a Right-Wing Conservative.
@HatedByZionists Fat man...you're calling me a worm? I see you left a message on my channel. I don't need to block you, so keep on maggot. You're a tired, haggard, pedantic and extremely homely human being.Are you going to put a bounty on my head? You're a laughing stock...if anyone is a keyboard warrior that would be you. An old, fat, soft little pussy. The funny thing is literally all the comments made about the Jews by you are lies. Why am I not surprised?
@HatedByZionists at the end of the day people react to perceived threats, not actual ones. When you're scared it doesn't matter whether your life is actually at risk or not, you perceive that it is at risk so you react to the threat, real or imagined.
Israeli's believe they are cornered and lash out/defend their governments policies because they actually believe that they bring security to them. We may disagree with them on that point but that's the reality we are facing!
>>The sad thing is that Israel was supposed to do exactly that, for Jews. Humanise them..
'Humanise' them? That says much about you and what is at the root of your maundering guff. I don't think that you or your fellow travellers could ever conceive of Jews (sorry, 'Zionists') being human. Fruitcakes such as yourself of the anti-everything community are otherwise to be found either shouting at traffic or wearing their pants on their heads. The brighter ones can manage both simultaneously.
@HatedByZionists speak to Israeli's and you will find they disagree with you on point (2) particularly those who live in the southern city in Israel where the Hamas rockets fall. More Israelis die from peanut allergies than Hamas rockets, this is true, but thats not how it's spun by their media and government who they look to for security.
@RevolutionaryJam Finally, a place where I'm not blocked. One thing I've noticed about you douche bags...you're quick to leave a comment and then run like a scared dog. You're a liar and a fraud. You think I'm a "gut-less keyboard warrior?" Incorrect fat man...Anytime, anywhere. You're AIDS infected lover Mediterrmann4 has my info...drop me a line. I'll beat you like a puncking bag. Oh and please, keep on telling more lies...BTW, your office is very nice where you make the vids. Trailer Park?
@furmountain21 Perhaps you would consider WHY you're blocked everywhere? You're hateful so people don't want you around. BLOCKED from my channel? -many people post comments there, so get off of your insane ARSE and stop making crap up, EH? Maybe, if you weren't SO NASTY and did not make up lies, again and again, you would be more welcome? Of course, many people simply do not forgive that sort of NASTINESS, ya know? Stop being a bitch and you will stop being treated as A BITCH, craziness.
@annebeck58 Well, you sure told me. Bottom line, you have no idea what you're talking about and are a Conspiracy Theorist. Nasty? You bet your ass I'm nasty. I'm sick of you, and people like you blaming all the ills of the world on the Jews. It's old. It's an equal opportunity world. Then there's guys like the one on this video talking about Jews being paranoid...bottom line...I don't agree with everything the Jews do, particularly when it pertains to supporting liberals and Socialism...
@annebeck58 I'm blocked because most of these Neo-Nazi's, Aryan ass-wipes don't like people disrupting their little pity parades. I've been to Israel...we let our guard down and we disappear. Does that make me a Zionist..perhaps. What lies have I made up, specifically? The day I look for forgiveness on you tube is when hell freezes over..you follow. I'm not blocked on your page. You only let those with the same twisted idealogies post on your page. Like zionisthatred...
@furmountain21 No, you are not blocked.. if you would look, the white, ADD COMMENT box is available. and if you don't write nasty things, for no reason.. I know; big request, isn't it(??).. I would allow your comments. However, as certain folk had a field day there, not long ago, I had to make post-with-my-approval-only.
And, I think you are talking about my FRIEND, hatedBYzionists.. he isn't zioisthater, just hated BY them.. get it? Besides, he leaves ME lovely comments.. they do NOT.
Okay-- I suppose I am one of those Anti_zion campaigners... And, I only came to be such after almost fifty-years of supporting the bastard-child of the middle-east. I do agree with your analogy, though, as I have used it myself. However, there is a point when any child *good or "bad" does require a firm "hand".. IzraHell NEEDS that firm hand, from, in particular, the USA. We cannot afford to continue handing out their allowance without approving purchases!
@FGsltw2009 if the big man exists you do him a great disservice by suggesting that he has the blood of tens of thousands of innocent palestinians, men, women and children, targetted sometimes in atrocious conditions.
how do you know the Bible is the authority on what God is like rather than the Ko'Ran or Mahabaratta or any other holy scripture of any other religion? Why The Bible?
@FGsltw2009 Hmm. It seems to me that most governments including Israeli, are not spiritual. Israel, the state, and Israel the people are two separate entities... and, believe you me; were there a god, (s)he would not approve of ANY of your state's actions!
@FGsltw2009 Oh? SO, why do your heads of state keep coming to the US and begging and manipulating MY congress and MY president into giving more cash and more weapons (for free)? If you are SO fucking great, why is that??
ISraHell IS a welfare state, completely dependent on the US!
@annebeck58 Ann, take a breath lady. I am an American non atheist that has read the entire bible and I know what God says about Israel. You can have your opinion and your govt. could just say NO if they would, but they like giving my money away to anyone that will take it including terrorists. Israel, for better or worse is here to stay and it will be here after the usa has died. Time will tell who is right.
@annebeck58 Oh, it's annebeck58. Lot's of sheep following you around I see. Of course, no one can leave a message on your channel. Have you been to Israel? Do you know what daily life is like for these people? Israel is a welfare state? You know nothing about the Israeli economy. It's so interesting how people take up the cause against Israel...your a Liberal too I'm sure. Anyone with half a brain knows the real enemy are the Muslims, or the Muslim Extremists...they want the West destroyed.
In a civilized society when a child decides for a life of crime he's placed in a correctional facility (maybe even a padded cell) so he cannot harm others.
While there are serious flaws with your arguments - flaws of a similar nature to the ones I exhibited in my anti-Zionist days - at least you seem to be sincere and motivated by Humanitarianism.
Israel will not sign onto the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty either. Why? What is it doing that it wants to keep secret?
Israel will not agree to an extradition treaty with the US either. Why? What is it afraid of? Why does it want to provide a harbor to Jewish American crimianls.
Israel continues to spy on the US. Why? Why does Israel treat its one true friend so badly?
When you mention one-sided you should consider the one-sided relationship the US has with Israel.
>>>Israel continues to spy on the US. Why? Why does Israel treat its one true friend so badly?
All "peace" organizations in Israel supporting the PLO are CIA-Ford Foundation backed fifth columen organizations. The spy for the enemy giving information on residents of Judea and Samaria to Western governments.
These organizations are spies funed by the US.
Peace Now, Btselem, Seeds of Peace are funded by the MI6, the British Foreign office, the Ford Foundation, the CIA, i.e. they are spies.
There was no state of Israel at the end of WWII but there were Zionists seeking to steal the land of Palestine which at that time was controlled by the UK.
Zionists and Jews very much appreciated the war-crime trials held at Nuremburg.
You might say the trials were the precursor to the Intenational Court of Justice.
Isn't it curious that Israel will not joing recognise any international court?
If they aren't doing anything wrong then what are they afraid of?
At least you do not deny that the Jews in Palestine have carried out ethnic-cleansing.
You do not seem to justify the fact that Israel has murdered 2,000 children in the last ten years.
You seem to know something about Israel so you probably know that Israel has no constitution. You may also know that Israel is in no rush to write a constitution because it does not want to give rights and protection to minorities.
So you understand why Apartheid is legal in Israel.
You have totally different standards for Israel than the Palestinians or anyone else it seems. Under those standards you could convict any group or individual who's had to defend themselves against crazy zealots who want nothing less than to have them dead
The argument boils down very simply, despite all of the nonsense added in to attempt to vilify Israel, the simplistic tunnel visioned standards that no protector in the world can stand up to and be called justified
@omegahpla The argument boils down very simply, despite all of the nonsense added in to attempt to divert attention away from zionist crimes. The world is still waking up to Israel's barbaric actions. And btw just like the jews in that revolted in the Nazi ghettos: Palestinians who revolt in yours are Freedom fighters and hero's. Now reply me like a real zionist: Bla bla anti-semite, bla bla chose people, bla bla... and when you are done go suck Satans cock you godless tool.
@slickrickdarula It does boil down very simply when you look at all the facts involved. The Palestinians could have peace, they don't want it unless Israel is dead. You are propagandized, but I know you can't answer why, if Israel is so rotten they don't wipe the Palestinians out completely & be done with it? They could easily. And why do you tolerate the Palestinians calls for genocide without batting an eye?
It is all pretty simple, idiots are sucked in by lies & propaganda, truth tells it.
@omegahpla Yes the whole world despises Israel out of ignorance. Stick your head in the sand. Lie to the world, lie to yourself. But do not go crying when your precious state is wiped out from within or without from it's critical contradictions.
Your criminal racist state is facing world wide criticism and your answer... trying to lie your ass out of it. It will all backfire. I will thank the Lord on that day.
@slickrickdarula Is that truth to you, what you think the whole world believes? & I'm not Jewish you sheeple moron ; ) I just have a brain so I can check things myself without buying into lies popularized by a media with an ugly agenda & nasty people controlling it
You get all wound up by what others told you, then you're ready to condemn a group with indignance in your tone, when you are a tool of liars & you don't have the will or the brains to think for yourself. You're a group thinking fool
Ano ang kailangan mong hanapin, ay isang serbisyo upang isalin ang iyong mga puna sa isang bagay na katumbas ng halaga ng pagbabasa sa kahit anong wika!
You have absolutely no ground to question anyone on what they have read
Without the West bank, do you know how much ground stands between Israeli border and the Sea? That would be a security problem for any country
Iran is ranked above Israel in conventional power. Several countries in the region are aligned against Israel, and one or more of those are crazy ass religious zealot cultists who would destroy Israel
If you don't see that as a security problem, you shouldn't talk on the subject
You know... I like this video, one thing I would like to ask though is when referring to Trismegistus is your take on what is above and what is below... Qabala as it refers to the various modifications one may make of the tree, or the Qliphoth as below the metaphysical daleth as an hinge or more appropriately unhinge point leading to the inverse relationships. If this is a little too weird I will attempt to rephrase my question.
There are some exceptions to what I've laid out about the nature of Israelis vs Arabs. But on either side they are small ones lost in the others for practical purpose.
Many Iranians are really decent people, but they are put down and constantly persecuted if not murdered by the crazy cultist elements which have taken over their government.
Very simply, Israel is a tolerant state with no ill will to any others. They would live in Peace being good neighbors, if those neighbors would allow them to.
The Palestinians like the Arabs in the region are intolerant people on the nasty ragged far edge of civilization. They might appear to be well civilized and willing to live in the world at peace, but that is a show, while they spread hate, or support it. It's not their core as peace and tolerance is at Israel's core, their true nature.
To even respond to you is to roll in the mud with a pig, I have a weakness there ... but just to a point
One thing, you'll never see an Israeli kill their own child then run around looking for cameras to claim their enemies did it, then call the child a martyr. People who do that are not worthy of support
You say Israeli's are the simple propagandists? lol
Who sucked you in to such a brain dead absolutist position? They, are the propagandists
One who supports Israel is a Zionist. You support Israel therefore you are a Zionist.
That is just the standard definition of Zionists. Just like a criminal is a person who has committed a crime.
If you support Israel you condone the crimes that Israel has committed. The first crime was of land theft. The second was of ethnic-cleansing. The third crime is murder.
Lying is not a crime on its own but Zionism as it stands is held together with thousands of lies denying the major crime
If you can be proud of supporting Israeli criminal activity or if you feel you have some sort of intellectual arguement that justifies Israel's racist policies then let fly.
The whole idea of YouTube comments is that you and everyone has a chance to back up their opinions.
Go ahead explain how Israel is not racist and is not guilty of war crimes.
Please don't be ashamed of being a Zionist though.
If you want to call names and swear do that. It helps me prove my point.
If you take the time to read the real history of Israel you will learn that from the very beginning and in this case I am talking about 1880 not 1948 the plan on the part of the European Jews was to establish a ethnic Jewish colony in Palestine.
As the historians have documented based on letters and declarations the Zionists planned to cleanse the land of Palestinians.
It has been one war crime after another since then.
So, if some people in a race do crimes against others, then the race is forever a race of war criminals? Unless they are Palestinians?
Brilliant! lol
I can see you are not a racist, just by the way you don't magnify a few actions into a classification of an entire people, and you don't just totally disregard what others have done ...Oh wait, I have that exactly backwards
And you are going to seriously take the word of Brits, calling others terrorists? You totally missed their history as well?
Your arguments are absolutist and totally selective. You don't balance your weight of judgment at all. If you were taught all of this you are a mindless sheep for not considering anything but extremely biased selective ridiculous drivel to the point of silliness.
You have nothing to say about Palestinians, who decided to wipe out the Israeli's when they outnumbered them 2 to 1, and lost, and got mercy from Israel which they would have never imparted Israelis, had Palestinian aggression won out
Red Herrings don't even exist in nature, but I see you are a big fan. Semantics, Semitics, who gives a flock?
The fact is the Israeli's held a presence in the area for thousands of years. Palestinians are not even a race, and have no historical connection to the land, they were just interlopers who were rejected and treated like crap by the others in the area because they were basic low life bad news. The Jews treat them better than anyone else ever has, despite the ugly problem they have been.
Iran should not remain out of this discussion either, they back Hamas, arm them, and give them all kinds of support. This is not even in question, it's open and notorious.
its amazing that the same folks who cry about isreal being the proxy of the usa (which it certainly is, as well as jordan kuwait, saudi, arabia, qatar, egypt, turkey, etc etc ) ignore the fact that hamas and hezbollah are a persian proxy. both can be true all at once. bigger powers always pull the strings...amazing how folks fall for the microcosm.
Exactly, the selective reality is extremely convoluted thinking. Funny how some people see an argument presented one way, see others accepting it around them, and are convinced this is truth. That is no way to decipher truth.
Then, what is more comical, while profoundly sad, these idiot sheep expand upon the foundation of bullshit and seek to be seen as thoughtful/special w their peers, taking it into an even more illogical place, building on disinformation. Idiocy takes on a life of it's own.
More to your direct point, it's very true. Iran, Syria, and all of their war like activity carried out by those they fund and give orders is largely ignored by the delusional crowd of Palestinian apologist Israel haters
The US has been the champion of Muslims and Jews alike, opposing forces which would act in genocidal policy against them
US and Israel are ironically the best friends Palestinians have. They were treated like dogs by the Arabs who only side with them to side against Israel now
during the massacre last year Israel was not even targetting militants, it relentlessly bombed and killed civilian populations. This was admitted by people in the military who, when interviewed, said independently that they weren't fighting ANYONE
So some people in the military who may not have known the military objective gave an interview and that was enough to convince you beyond doubt that Israel was targeting civilians with no wider objective or that those civilians were hiding military assets of Hamas including weapons and fighters/leaders?
I'm sorry, but that really doesn't seem like a well thought out or fair position. It makes no sense. If Israel wanted to target civilian assets they could, it's not a war crime, yet they don't.
Iran backing Hamas is no less nefarious than America backing Israel with millions of dollars of military aid every year despite their heinous record of human rights abuses which are well catalogued, and yet which you plainly deny in the face of an unquestionable wealth of evidence.
Your "unquestionable wealth of evidence" is painfully selective. Israel is in a fight for existence AGAINST the worst type of people on the face of the planet, verified through action and their own words
Iran too, the crazies running the government of Iran, has genocide in mind. They use terrorists who deliberately target innocent civilians, but somehow it's ok with you while Israel's self defense against an aggressor who is vowed to wipe them out, that's much worse?
sorry all you do is put your fingers in your ears and go "la la la" when confronted with evidence, it is pointless debating with someone as ignorant while fixed in their belief system as you are. Logic does not exist in your world view.
See, what you have is a perspective problem, a group think problem. You talk about ignoring evidence, when you spout what is probably the popular view around you, and refuse to consider circumstances and won't apply the same standards to all involved. You are severely slanted in this, and you show symptoms of being a party to mass delusion, group think.
What the people around you consider truth, means nothing, and it's no way to judge such a question, let alone base a solution from.
You are right, I won't debate standing on your foundation of fermented bull shit. Bad premise begets bad premise, and if you stand on it long enough it begins to look normal, especially with the support of those around you ... but groups by and large, are idiots. People who use others, groups, to evaluate their judgments are by extension being idiots.
I'm not calling you an idiot, but we all have our moments. Our herding instincts can make fools of us all.
I also need to add this. Media is not a really good source of anything but the raw informaiton you can glean from around the objectives they represent, and it's gotten more corrupted as time has come to this point. It's a show, it shows certain points of view, certain facts supporting those desired perspectives, hide or grossly under represent others, and it is used to push your thinking. There is no free media, and there is no entertainment industry that's all about entertainment. It's selling.
If you can trust any civilization to behave sanely, no other country has gone through so much and proven themselves so completely as Israel
Why is it the idiots in the world condemn a country like Israel, and defend a country like Russia with their record of attacking countries which actually do pose zero threat? China with their invasion of Tibet takes less crap from Palestinian extremist genocidal freaks apologists, than Israel does while showing remarkable restraint, that I think goes to far
because Israel consistently choose expansion over security, deliberately provoking the Palestinians to rise up against them violently by bulldoxzing their houses and building walls which seperate communities from their farming land. The evidence backs these statements entirely if you'd care to take a look at it.
Israel has full right to take what they won after attempts to wipe them off the face of the earth went badly for the genocidal freaks who initiated it. I don't see why they pussyfoot around. They should carve up Syria and put the Palestinians there, and keep the land they took in the wars. The kind of aggression they faced should have consequences. It should be extremely costly. That would serve as a deterrent, and a just payment for the actions of war against Israel who attacked in self defense
If the Palestinians would live in peace, the efforts to protect Israel from their attacks would have little if any support. Buffer zones are part of this, and Israel is nearly impossible to defend without them. These measures are well justified, vital.
The Palestinians (To general, I know, but as a group it's accurate as they tolerate and support the genocidal crazies which makes them responsible) don't wish to live in peace. They want Israel GONE, and nothing short of this is good enough.
Israel is one of the top countries in the world as far as humanitarian behavior. What do you think any Arab country would do to a group on their border committing atrocities that the Palestinians do?
Israel has every right to render the Palestinian threat neutralized. Every country has that right. If Hamas is hiding among civilians it's the fault of Hamas and those civilians that civilians are hit
Being the stronger power doesn't negate their right to protect themselves. Not in any sane world
You speak of Israel in question as to their ability to be a sane member of international society?
Look, a group of people vow to destroy them, pretty much all the people living in the continent they are on. 7 day war, they were attacked in mass. They have every right to keep the land they took, but they just took some
They have power to utterly destroy those who would do it to them, and they don't. In fact they are one of the best friends Palestinians have ever had. Arabs never helped them.
that is entirely not true and typically one sided. you continue to leave out facts that aren't conveniant. you simply ignored that arab nations that invaded israel a few years before amassed 100,000 troops on their border. that is what initiated the conflict.
it entirely IS true, Israel invaded their neighbors on that occasion, following a period of relative peace, leading to UN resolutions (which were largely unenforced) being brought against them
You will find what initiated the conflict was when one people handed the land of a second people to a third
a Jew born anywhere in the world may has the right to "return" to Israel whether or not they have links, while Palestinians who were forcefully ran from their homes cannot return to their own land
Paranoia? hello? Hamas still holds a policy of total annihilation of Israel. Do you think they are joking? Just a bunch of crazy kids who occasionally blow stuff up accidentally?
See themselves as the victim? Israel didn't attack, they were attacked in attempt to kill them all by Palestinians who outnumbered them better than 2 to 1. If they had lost they would be gone now, a memory.
Your comments are so convoluted & based on false premise one has to wonder if you even really thought it out.
One important ingredient in the US power balance is Christian Zionism.
This is movement particularly strong in the US and controls a lot of lobbying power. It works in conjunction with AIPAC, ADL et. al. to push the Zionist agenda of moving Jews into Palestine. They aid Israel for very different reasons to the the Zionist Jews though, believing that they can precipitate the day of judgement, when, they say, Jews amongst others will go to hell. Odd bedfellows.
there are a vast amount of americans, some atheistl ike me, who are disgusted by the entire situation. the way the usa and soviet union manipluated isreal for their own gain. the way the arabic nations tried to topple isreal when it was in its infancy. the way palestinians are treated in camps for generations in arabs nations. to not see how every party has acted in horridly unethical ways is to see things from one perspective.
Keep in mind that I am still looking to expand my knowledge and refine my opinion. The jews that died in the concentration camps were not the financial elite. They were ordinary jews that one could buy a sausage from on the street. Gasing them would make about as much sense as gasing the American public for the sins of George Bush. P.S. If you cut your hair more like George W you might look less like a psychopath.lol
can, this is the jews hold all the blame comment board, have'nt you noticed? hamas and hezbollah who kill folks because they don't follow sharia law are perfectly moral to these people, and jews are bad because their government protects itself. its pretty typical racism masked as leftist, but their is nothing leftist about the support of ultra right muslim political parties.
this is complete misinformation. lol. hezbollah, by their own tenets, are advocates of sharia law. More broadly, current leader Sheikh Nasserallah has described Hizb'allah's ideology as having "two main axis: firstly, a belief in the rule by the just jurisconsult and adherence to Khomeini's leadership; and secondly, the continued need to struggle against the Israeli enemy. are you saying khomeini doesnt advocate sharia law?
Israel should be treated like a state that stands accused of war crimes.
Its leaders should be tried and if found guilty of war crimes and/or crimes against humanity should face whatever pubishment is deemed appropriate by the International Courts of Justice and Israel should pay whatever compensation and forfeits are ordered by that court.
Then everyone should get on with living in peace and serving the one true, and peaceful, God that they claim to believe in.
take the leaders out of Israel and try them for war crimes without first having the Israeli people themselves understand what their government has been doign will only lead to those who are demagogues making claims that they are being victimised and hard done by and will make the Israeli people turn to the right and become more authoritarian
plus, theres not a snowballs chance in hell of those war criminals being brought to justice until America is dealt with
In general I will not go so far as to condone any act of violence, however, I think under the circumstances acts of violent resistance are not only inevitable but also provoked by the Israeli government but I need to break your question down further:
1a) Against military targets that are attacking Palestinians
1b) Against military targets that are not attacking Palestinians
2a) Against civilian targets in the occupied territories
In circumstance (1a) violent resistance is certainly justified
In circumstances 1b, 2a and 2b, violent resistance may sometimes be justified (in increasing order of rarity) but will almost envitably serve to give the Israeli government an excuse to commit worse acts of violence and atrocities.
The international court is a silly biased kangaroo court in the first place. They apply no standard but their own political appetites, and the were basically pulled out of the asses of ego maniacal control freaks attempting to bring some importance and thus power to themselves, by just stating they had it. They don't, and the threats they have made approach acts of war in their own right.
If you could prosecute Israeli leaders for what they have done, most others in war meet that standard.
That is the most profound statement I have ever heard regarding the State of Israel..I think you are onto something extreemly useful. Thanks for sharing that and keep up the good work. It reminds me of the teenager at home that rules the rest of the family...I want it, I want it, I want it...oh fine...have it. You get tired after a while. and just give in until it becomes habitual. Another interesting approach is that of describing the collective psyche of a nation in simpler terms...Leo!
dude revolutionaryjam, if you just cut your long hair and make it shorter, you just have made one of my Christmas wishes came true. and show your cut hair next time you post a vid.
name one law introduced in either country that even remotely declares this. one. this is a complete lie. revolutionaryjam, why is it you never correct ANYONE that is antiisrael but always correct those who come down on hamas or hezbollah (in fact you have provided misinformation to seem like hezbollah aren't advocates of sharia law in a defense of them)?
I don't think there is any chance that the US will offer Israeli Jews the opportunity to re-locate to the US and the US will certainly not relocate them by force.
"We" have to let the Israelis know that their ideas about the Apartheid Wall and who has what rights in Palestine are wrong.
Israelis do not get to re-write the history of Palestine to suit an image they want to project.
Boycotting Israeli products is a peaceful way to send Israel a clear message.
when you say Israelis you should realise that it is only a select few that do this mindfully
infact the mass of them have believed in the re-written history that you talk about x
to be honest I'm not sure the boycott will be effective since it will probably make them think everyone is against them, which is of course, is what makes the people let the government act the way they are acting
(NB. over 70% of Israelis believe settlement building should stop in the West Bank)
I agree with you that one crime does not justify another... would it not be a crime to uproot the population of Israel who were born in that country, by force, to move them to America? That would be kidnapping, duress, worse!
I would like to see a solution which serves the interests of all. You have to understand the Israeli mind set, they are programmed to beleive things like the wall serve their "Security" ...when infact the complete opposite is true! It is brutish, AND makes them less safe
Before 1948 the US government prohibitted arms sales to the Jews in Palestine but American Jewish organized crime made sure that the Jews got American made weapons and supplies.
Today Israel is a world center of organized crime. The illegal organ trade was in the news but the XTC trade is not while Israelis / Jews control that business.
Israel is a center of human trafficing and illegal arms sales.
You have to read more about Israel to see how rotten it really is.
The real godfather of American organized crime poured millions of dollars into Israel.
He fled there to avoid US prosecution but for once Israel gave a Jewish criminal back to the American authorities - not until they got a pile of money from him.
Read his story and the control he had in Las Vegas and Cuba.
Jews own Las Vegas gambling now and they always did.
It is a huge source of funds destined for Israel.
Jewish American and Jewish Canadian criminals have played a huge role in the creation of Israel and in preserving it.
It is an historical fact that the Canadian Bronfman family made their fortune, which exists to this day, by illegally trading alcohol back and forth across the US / Canadian border.
They have given tens of millions of dollars to Israel and did so when a million dollars made a huge difference to a struggling nation.
Somehow a generation or two seems to wash money clean.
If you want to describe Israel as something other than a criminal enterprise consider my follow-on comments first.
If you look into the history of organized crime in the Unitied States and Canada in detail you will be shocked to find out that it has been a Jewish undertaking virtually from the start.
The Jewish directors in Hollywood have done a great job of hiding that fact and making a totally different ethinic group look like the main driving force behind organized crime.
Look, it doesn't matter whether you play nice or make a strong stand, it doesn't matter about morality or logic or international law. That's all irrelevant. The truth is, like you said, israel has all the guns, and so they're going to do what they want with palestinians, and laugh themselves to sleep afterwards, until such time as the power balance changes. Those who support israel will do so no matter what, and have no concern about arabs, other than the fact that they're not dead yet.
that all suspected Israeli war criminals be brought to trial an if guilty convicted.
I am not a great fan of punishment. I would much rather see compensation. Guilty Israelis should be in work camps and work for the rest of their lives if their crime was serious enough to pay back what they owe for the damage they have done.
At this moment virtually every Palestinian is being punished while Israelis are being rewarded with my tax dollars.
People who claim to be Jews went to the ME and took virtually all the land away froma group who have lived there forever. Now they are treating the people they did not kill or drive away like dogs.
I know loads of Israelis and they are racist toward other Israelis let along Arabs.
The country is built on hate and racism.
I do understand that.
All refugees have to be allowed back into Israel / Palestine. Apartheid laws have to be changed.
Neko I am interested in one thing and one thing alone, that is which course of action will serve to create a lasting, durable and above all Just peace for all concerned,
You quite clearly have an axe to grind and judging from the fact that you dodged answering my qustion it's safe to say that you quite frankly think that jews+israelis just plain deserve to suffer, whether or not that will serve to help the Palestinian people or hinder them. Punishment is ineffective tho, even in child-rearing.
Of course those guilty or war crimes should be brought to trial but without creating understanding the mass of the Israeli population will feel that they have been misjudged will they not? They need to be made to understand the history of their state.
When a psychiatrist treats madmen he does not become mad. Sometimes the patient may become angry with him or call hhim names but the doctor is sober and simply treats him.
The "psychiatrist" analogy would be fine if we just had a troubled teen on our hands.
In this case though, 1.5 million Gaza Palestinians live in appalling conditions because the majority of them were forced out of their homes in what is now Israel.
Thousands of Palestinians and Lebanese have been murdered.
Israel is a criminal enterprise not a mixed up kid.
This is a job for the police not a psychiatrist.
An economic boycott worked on South Africa it will work on Israel.
I used to believe that the full on BDS boycott on Israel would work, however, the situations that face Israel and faced South Africa are quite different. SA was completely dependant on Black labour, while Israel is not on Arab. We give too much credit to the international boycott in SA forgetting that it was in coordination with Black refusal to serve the regime.
White SA also did not rest on a nihilistic "we win or we die" ideology, which I will elaborate on.
Frankly, it doesnt matter whethor or not BDS on Israel is morally just or not. it will not recieve positive effects. Indeed, it would fall right into the laps of the fear-mongering Israeli Right who would say the international community is basically saying "Kauft nicht bei Juden! (dont buy from Jews). This would in all likelyhood be an extremely useful propaganda tool for the worst of the worst of the Israeli right. moral justification is useless next to realistic results.
I think we do need to take a firm stance on Israel, but one that doesnt serve to threaten and radicalize its society and its politics. Good intentions often can have opposite results.
In the end, only Israel can end the conflict in the near future, and the only way to make them do this is for them to see that the other option entails the occupation ending Israel in the more distant future.
The door for the 2 state solution is slamming shut. if Israel doesnt act, it will slam on their thumbs.
I disagree with calling Israel a "criminal enterprise". Such terms only muddle and simplify the conflict. Israel, as any other state, society, what have you, is complex and multifaceted. Something as large as a state should never be put on the same page as the Mafia, no matter what crimes the state has commited (this goes for Nazi Germany, the USSR, North Korea as well) because they operate on an entirely different level. Pragmatism, not idealism, is the only avenue to peace and justice IMO
I think I have already said this but the first thing that must be done is that Israel must allow all the Palestinians from anywhere in the world to return to Israel / Palestine.
If they want to come to Israel proper then they can. If they want to live in the WB or Gaza then they can.
Israel has to compensate all Palestinians for all destroyed property and for making them homeless for 62 years.
Israel vacates all settlements in the WB. Israel withdraws from Sheba and the Golan.
Dude! Man youve been suckered! Palistinians are fat off the worlds donations! Meanwhile real needy people are ignored like southern Sudan. Leftist loony lies will not make the world a better place.
freedrum 8 months ago
Zionism is simply the Freemasonic British-Israelite movement of the ruling aristocrats, who belive (seriously) that Dianas bloodline, and hence prince Williams, is that of King David, Jesus and Mohammed. It's a nonsense, but still, ordinary Jews have fallen for this Protestant Zionist hoax. Check out the webstie JewsAgainstZionism to see what Torah-true Jews think of British Imperial Zionism, i.e Israel as a British puppet state.
528hertz 11 months ago
I guess you havent seen how palestine likes to strap there children with bombs an blow them up in Israel now that is a war crime you moron you have no clue your just an IRA wanabee
XDownSouthX 1 year ago
Down South, do you think that the fact the palestinians have been under pretty brutal occupation for the last 60+ years may have anything to do with why palestinian militants commit acts of terror in Israel?
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam "brutal occupation"
LOL is that a joke or what?They dug there own hole commiting one act of terror after another useing school an hosiptial grounds to use for mortor attacks so they can hide behind the woman an children...an there is no excuse for strapping bombs on children an blowing them up thats just fucking sick ass shit an for anybody like you to say its ok is fukcing sick you need to take your ass to palestine an blow yourself up
XDownSouthX 1 year ago
@ravdov571 I think you are dreaming all of this.
Nobody (surely not me) said anything about anyone's neck in a noose,, nor did I say anything about anyone being after you, Honetly, you do seem to like to insert yourself into things, don;t you?
And, guess what? NOBODY, least of all ME, cares,,, All i know of you is that you MAKE UP LIES, all of the time. Like, Twitter? I have never been on twitter, and have NO desire to go there, yet you dreamed that one up, too..
YOU are crazy!
annebeck58 1 year ago
@HatedByZionists You know, I just saw this comment (I had yt set for a while to NOT send me follow up, as it was too much Zionmail every day).. And, I agree (you know I do). I was with them for almost fifty YEARS. Then came cast-lead-ops, and the NEWS all over online, and I could not stand with tham any longer. I also have a bit of a different (closer) background than you,that made it even HARDER for me to change. but, the zios HERE sure as hell set me straight-against THEM, the Piggies..
annebeck58 1 year ago
@HatedByZionists Friend; this is what I was talking about.. It seems to just be fury, again; who is truly NOT worty of your time (or mine). Why I bothered, even today, I don't know. because I got it worked out pretty quickly. It is ALWAYS the same with FUry; ignore the video, follow people around (stalker), going back a year or more to find ONE video she is not blocked from (funny, I don't have that problem). If she was not SUCH an ugly wench (and i mean her mouth), she'd have no problem
annebeck58 1 year ago
@annebeck58 What do you mean "worty?" I'm not a woman. Far from it. You guys continue to live like scared animals. I never laughed as hard as I did when I saw the video hatedbyzionists made from his living room. What a laugh. He's got to be close to my age (48) but looks ten years older and haggard as the day is long. He said I'm a "gutless keyboard warrior." No true. I'm still in prime fighting condition...you still never answered my question. What's a Zionist? Explain it to me...
furmountain21 1 year ago
@ravdov571 he's emaciated...
furmountain21 1 year ago
@ravdov571 It's amusing...these guys have nothing else to do. I've never met one of them who really has the facts straight...they twist them to suit their own inadequacies. The zionismhatred guy simply needs a bullet in head. The guy in this video thinks he's Jesus Christ. You meet allot of morons on you tube...then again, we need blithering, haggard losers like zionist hatred to balance things out. By the way, I'm a Right-Wing Conservative.
furmountain21 1 year ago
@HatedByZionists Fat man...you're calling me a worm? I see you left a message on my channel. I don't need to block you, so keep on maggot. You're a tired, haggard, pedantic and extremely homely human being.Are you going to put a bounty on my head? You're a laughing stock...if anyone is a keyboard warrior that would be you. An old, fat, soft little pussy. The funny thing is literally all the comments made about the Jews by you are lies. Why am I not surprised?
furmountain21 1 year ago
@HatedByZionists Are you going to have my legs broken? I'd like that fat man.
furmountain21 1 year ago
@HatedByZionists at the end of the day people react to perceived threats, not actual ones. When you're scared it doesn't matter whether your life is actually at risk or not, you perceive that it is at risk so you react to the threat, real or imagined.
Israeli's believe they are cornered and lash out/defend their governments policies because they actually believe that they bring security to them. We may disagree with them on that point but that's the reality we are facing!
best wishes
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@HatedByZionists You're a coward...if I were you I'd get some sleep...haggard looking bastard.
furmountain21 1 year ago
RE: "the history of the creation of the state of Israel was violent and bloody"
True enough.
Just as the creation of the UK (Norman conquest, battle of hastings...) was bloody.
Just as the creation of Algeria (guerilla/urban warfare, battle of Algiers) was bloody.
Just as the creation of the US (hijacking British ships in Boston harbor) was bloody.
Just like the creation of the Palestinian Authority (decades of PLO attacks) has been exceptionally bloody.
No double standards, please.
TheTollundWoman 1 year ago
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deansaddigh 1 year ago
>>The sad thing is that Israel was supposed to do exactly that, for Jews. Humanise them..
'Humanise' them? That says much about you and what is at the root of your maundering guff. I don't think that you or your fellow travellers could ever conceive of Jews (sorry, 'Zionists') being human. Fruitcakes such as yourself of the anti-everything community are otherwise to be found either shouting at traffic or wearing their pants on their heads. The brighter ones can manage both simultaneously.
pierstheoneandonly 1 year ago
@HatedByZionists speak to Israeli's and you will find they disagree with you on point (2) particularly those who live in the southern city in Israel where the Hamas rockets fall. More Israelis die from peanut allergies than Hamas rockets, this is true, but thats not how it's spun by their media and government who they look to for security.
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam Finally, a place where I'm not blocked. One thing I've noticed about you douche bags...you're quick to leave a comment and then run like a scared dog. You're a liar and a fraud. You think I'm a "gut-less keyboard warrior?" Incorrect fat man...Anytime, anywhere. You're AIDS infected lover Mediterrmann4 has my info...drop me a line. I'll beat you like a puncking bag. Oh and please, keep on telling more lies...BTW, your office is very nice where you make the vids. Trailer Park?
furmountain21 1 year ago
@furmountain21 thanks for cheering me up with your hilarious comment! I have no idea who you are but I enjoyed reading it!
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam I was referring to hatedbyzionists...
furmountain21 1 year ago
@furmountain21 Perhaps you would consider WHY you're blocked everywhere? You're hateful so people don't want you around. BLOCKED from my channel? -many people post comments there, so get off of your insane ARSE and stop making crap up, EH? Maybe, if you weren't SO NASTY and did not make up lies, again and again, you would be more welcome? Of course, many people simply do not forgive that sort of NASTINESS, ya know? Stop being a bitch and you will stop being treated as A BITCH, craziness.
annebeck58 1 year ago
@annebeck58 Well, you sure told me. Bottom line, you have no idea what you're talking about and are a Conspiracy Theorist. Nasty? You bet your ass I'm nasty. I'm sick of you, and people like you blaming all the ills of the world on the Jews. It's old. It's an equal opportunity world. Then there's guys like the one on this video talking about Jews being paranoid...bottom line...I don't agree with everything the Jews do, particularly when it pertains to supporting liberals and Socialism...
furmountain21 1 year ago
@annebeck58 I'm blocked because most of these Neo-Nazi's, Aryan ass-wipes don't like people disrupting their little pity parades. I've been to Israel...we let our guard down and we disappear. Does that make me a Zionist..perhaps. What lies have I made up, specifically? The day I look for forgiveness on you tube is when hell freezes over..you follow. I'm not blocked on your page. You only let those with the same twisted idealogies post on your page. Like zionisthatred...
furmountain21 1 year ago
@furmountain21 No, you are not blocked.. if you would look, the white, ADD COMMENT box is available. and if you don't write nasty things, for no reason.. I know; big request, isn't it(??).. I would allow your comments. However, as certain folk had a field day there, not long ago, I had to make post-with-my-approval-only.
And, I think you are talking about my FRIEND, hatedBYzionists.. he isn't zioisthater, just hated BY them.. get it? Besides, he leaves ME lovely comments.. they do NOT.
annebeck58 1 year ago
@annebeck58 So what your looking for is "lovely comments?" Take a hike..you're a Nazi.
furmountain21 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam Incorrect....
furmountain21 1 year ago
great video.
bm897 1 year ago
@bm897 thanks
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
Yawn!
msmcis 1 year ago
Okay-- I suppose I am one of those Anti_zion campaigners... And, I only came to be such after almost fifty-years of supporting the bastard-child of the middle-east. I do agree with your analogy, though, as I have used it myself. However, there is a point when any child *good or "bad" does require a firm "hand".. IzraHell NEEDS that firm hand, from, in particular, the USA. We cannot afford to continue handing out their allowance without approving purchases!
annebeck58 1 year ago
Smack the brat.
Is what what I'd recommmend.?
PaulMcCoch 1 year ago
When all countries and peoples are destroyed or in 3rd world status, Israel will still be here and thriving. You cannot fight against God and win.
FGsltw2009 1 year ago
@FGsltw2009 if the big man exists you do him a great disservice by suggesting that he has the blood of tens of thousands of innocent palestinians, men, women and children, targetted sometimes in atrocious conditions.
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@You are obviously ignorant of the Bible. God is a Spirit, not a big man. He has wiped
out complete nations before. Look what
he did to the Egyptians. He does not play
when it comes to the minority of the earth.
FGsltw2009 1 year ago
how do you know the Bible is the authority on what God is like rather than the Ko'Ran or Mahabaratta or any other holy scripture of any other religion? Why The Bible?
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam
The Bible is the only book handed down
through numerous centuries that tells man
where he came from, and where he is going.
It lays down the rules for life and death. God
gives man a choice and does not force his
will on us. We can choose to believe or not.
So far the accurancy has been right on. Soon,
we will enter into what the Bible calls the tribulation
period.
FGsltw2009 1 year ago
@FGsltw2009 Hmm. It seems to me that most governments including Israeli, are not spiritual. Israel, the state, and Israel the people are two separate entities... and, believe you me; were there a god, (s)he would not approve of ANY of your state's actions!
annebeck58 1 year ago
@FGsltw2009 Oh? SO, why do your heads of state keep coming to the US and begging and manipulating MY congress and MY president into giving more cash and more weapons (for free)? If you are SO fucking great, why is that??
ISraHell IS a welfare state, completely dependent on the US!
annebeck58 1 year ago
@annebeck58 Ann, take a breath lady. I am an American non atheist that has read the entire bible and I know what God says about Israel. You can have your opinion and your govt. could just say NO if they would, but they like giving my money away to anyone that will take it including terrorists. Israel, for better or worse is here to stay and it will be here after the usa has died. Time will tell who is right.
FGsltw2009 1 year ago
@annebeck58 Oh, it's annebeck58. Lot's of sheep following you around I see. Of course, no one can leave a message on your channel. Have you been to Israel? Do you know what daily life is like for these people? Israel is a welfare state? You know nothing about the Israeli economy. It's so interesting how people take up the cause against Israel...your a Liberal too I'm sure. Anyone with half a brain knows the real enemy are the Muslims, or the Muslim Extremists...they want the West destroyed.
furmountain21 1 year ago
Israel has nuclear weapons......ISRAEL, HAS NUCLEAR WEAPONS !!!!!
God, tells them to do what they do...so who's gonna stop them?
The chosen people of God, have nuclear weapons!! Does any body see the maddness in this? If God wants his people to have nuclear weapons then
does that mean that God is not going to protect them?
kellythesinger 1 year ago
In a civilized society when a child decides for a life of crime he's placed in a correctional facility (maybe even a padded cell) so he cannot harm others.
1aninterpreter1 1 year ago
PURE HOTNESS! KING JESUS BABY
King7Jesus 1 year ago
erm... thanks I guess
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
shalom + salam = love
humanumgenus 1 year ago
@humanumgenus Beautiful <3
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
While there are serious flaws with your arguments - flaws of a similar nature to the ones I exhibited in my anti-Zionist days - at least you seem to be sincere and motivated by Humanitarianism.
This may be worth a video response....
Changeling9au 2 years ago
Sure, naturally your input would be appreciated :-)
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
Muzze TUFF~
OnThatPowder 2 years ago
Israel will not sign onto the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty either. Why? What is it doing that it wants to keep secret?
Israel will not agree to an extradition treaty with the US either. Why? What is it afraid of? Why does it want to provide a harbor to Jewish American crimianls.
Israel continues to spy on the US. Why? Why does Israel treat its one true friend so badly?
When you mention one-sided you should consider the one-sided relationship the US has with Israel.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
>>>Israel continues to spy on the US. Why? Why does Israel treat its one true friend so badly?
All "peace" organizations in Israel supporting the PLO are CIA-Ford Foundation backed fifth columen organizations. The spy for the enemy giving information on residents of Judea and Samaria to Western governments.
These organizations are spies funed by the US.
Peace Now, Btselem, Seeds of Peace are funded by the MI6, the British Foreign office, the Ford Foundation, the CIA, i.e. they are spies.
ScuzzylilAmeriWhore 2 years ago
There was no state of Israel at the end of WWII but there were Zionists seeking to steal the land of Palestine which at that time was controlled by the UK.
Zionists and Jews very much appreciated the war-crime trials held at Nuremburg.
You might say the trials were the precursor to the Intenational Court of Justice.
Isn't it curious that Israel will not joing recognise any international court?
If they aren't doing anything wrong then what are they afraid of?
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
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happiness6589746 2 years ago
omegahpla:
At least you do not deny that the Jews in Palestine have carried out ethnic-cleansing.
You do not seem to justify the fact that Israel has murdered 2,000 children in the last ten years.
You seem to know something about Israel so you probably know that Israel has no constitution. You may also know that Israel is in no rush to write a constitution because it does not want to give rights and protection to minorities.
So you understand why Apartheid is legal in Israel.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
You have totally different standards for Israel than the Palestinians or anyone else it seems. Under those standards you could convict any group or individual who's had to defend themselves against crazy zealots who want nothing less than to have them dead
The argument boils down very simply, despite all of the nonsense added in to attempt to vilify Israel, the simplistic tunnel visioned standards that no protector in the world can stand up to and be called justified
It's just utter non-sense
omegahpla 2 years ago 4
@omegahpla The argument boils down very simply, despite all of the nonsense added in to attempt to divert attention away from zionist crimes. The world is still waking up to Israel's barbaric actions. And btw just like the jews in that revolted in the Nazi ghettos: Palestinians who revolt in yours are Freedom fighters and hero's. Now reply me like a real zionist: Bla bla anti-semite, bla bla chose people, bla bla... and when you are done go suck Satans cock you godless tool.
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@slickrickdarula It does boil down very simply when you look at all the facts involved. The Palestinians could have peace, they don't want it unless Israel is dead. You are propagandized, but I know you can't answer why, if Israel is so rotten they don't wipe the Palestinians out completely & be done with it? They could easily. And why do you tolerate the Palestinians calls for genocide without batting an eye?
It is all pretty simple, idiots are sucked in by lies & propaganda, truth tells it.
omegahpla 1 year ago
@omegahpla Yes the whole world despises Israel out of ignorance. Stick your head in the sand. Lie to the world, lie to yourself. But do not go crying when your precious state is wiped out from within or without from it's critical contradictions.
Your criminal racist state is facing world wide criticism and your answer... trying to lie your ass out of it. It will all backfire. I will thank the Lord on that day.
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@slickrickdarula Is that truth to you, what you think the whole world believes? & I'm not Jewish you sheeple moron ; ) I just have a brain so I can check things myself without buying into lies popularized by a media with an ugly agenda & nasty people controlling it
You get all wound up by what others told you, then you're ready to condemn a group with indignance in your tone, when you are a tool of liars & you don't have the will or the brains to think for yourself. You're a group thinking fool
omegahpla 1 year ago
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happiness6589746 2 years ago
@happiness6589746
Ano ang kailangan mong hanapin, ay isang serbisyo upang isalin ang iyong mga puna sa isang bagay na katumbas ng halaga ng pagbabasa sa kahit anong wika!
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
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happiness6589746 2 years ago
@happiness6589746:
Sigurado ka maipagmamalaki ng pagiging hindi makasulat sa dalawang wika?
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
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happiness6589746 2 years ago
Pagbabanta ang mga tao ay bastos at hindi tama para sa.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
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happiness6589746 2 years ago
You know the answer.
Every society has its elites and one elite is the small group who feel they have the right to rule us.
In some countries they rule by force in others they rule by trickery and in others they rule by allowing people to have most of the things they want.
The US, UK, Japan and many "advanced" countries have this sort of government.
Maybe you live in a country where they just shoot people or beat them up. Either way we have no power as common people.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
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happiness6589746 2 years ago
I wonder how many individuals who refer to Machiavelli have ever actually read the book "The Prince."
If you think that Israel even has a "security problem" then phone the Israeli Ministry of Propaganda and tell them they have done their job.
A nation with the third largest air force, armor force and nuclear arsenal is threatened by bottle rockets from Gaza, is it?
A nation with nuke armed missiles that can hit Paris is threatened by young men with Ak's north of Sheba Farms, is it?
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
You have absolutely no ground to question anyone on what they have read
Without the West bank, do you know how much ground stands between Israeli border and the Sea? That would be a security problem for any country
Iran is ranked above Israel in conventional power. Several countries in the region are aligned against Israel, and one or more of those are crazy ass religious zealot cultists who would destroy Israel
If you don't see that as a security problem, you shouldn't talk on the subject
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happiness6589746 2 years ago
You know... I like this video, one thing I would like to ask though is when referring to Trismegistus is your take on what is above and what is below... Qabala as it refers to the various modifications one may make of the tree, or the Qliphoth as below the metaphysical daleth as an hinge or more appropriately unhinge point leading to the inverse relationships. If this is a little too weird I will attempt to rephrase my question.
AhvousdiraijeMaman 2 years ago
There are some exceptions to what I've laid out about the nature of Israelis vs Arabs. But on either side they are small ones lost in the others for practical purpose.
Many Iranians are really decent people, but they are put down and constantly persecuted if not murdered by the crazy cultist elements which have taken over their government.
omegahpla 2 years ago
Very simply, Israel is a tolerant state with no ill will to any others. They would live in Peace being good neighbors, if those neighbors would allow them to.
The Palestinians like the Arabs in the region are intolerant people on the nasty ragged far edge of civilization. They might appear to be well civilized and willing to live in the world at peace, but that is a show, while they spread hate, or support it. It's not their core as peace and tolerance is at Israel's core, their true nature.
omegahpla 2 years ago
omegahpla:
Jews have tried to give us the impression that they are smarter on average than any other group on the planet.
Yet, their propaganda is so simplistic that it falls to bits on the first application of pressure.
The Israel Mossad's motto is something to the effect of By way of deception we shall do war"
This is really the technique of all Zionist supporters - the thing is, we are on to the fact you lie all the time and it no longer works
Zionism is racism - that is a fact
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
I am Agnostic, and you, are an absolutist idiot
To even respond to you is to roll in the mud with a pig, I have a weakness there ... but just to a point
One thing, you'll never see an Israeli kill their own child then run around looking for cameras to claim their enemies did it, then call the child a martyr. People who do that are not worthy of support
You say Israeli's are the simple propagandists? lol
Who sucked you in to such a brain dead absolutist position? They, are the propagandists
omegahpla 2 years ago
omegahpla:
You lose this arguement because you are so emotional.
This is part of the Zionist brainwashing. Israelis are taught that they whole world hates them for being Jews.
That is the primary lie of Zionism.
Most of the world knew nothing about Jews and cared even less.
Now, because of Israel's blatant racism and documented war crimes people hate Israel for what it has done not for who the people are.
This is a reality you have face. Well, actually it is too late.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
NEKO2BOT: The surest tell of a sheep is mindless unqualified absolutism.
You can't win or lose this argument, because you don't even make your own argument.
Your participation is simply a bad joke / noise / intellectual pollution.
You can't conceive that anyone defending Israel is anything but Zionist. You are obviously programed.
Israel has a very obvious case to be made for them by anyone objectively assessing the situation.
I'm no Zionist, it is YOU who argue from irrational ideology.
omegahpla 2 years ago
One who supports Israel is a Zionist. You support Israel therefore you are a Zionist.
That is just the standard definition of Zionists. Just like a criminal is a person who has committed a crime.
If you support Israel you condone the crimes that Israel has committed. The first crime was of land theft. The second was of ethnic-cleansing. The third crime is murder.
Lying is not a crime on its own but Zionism as it stands is held together with thousands of lies denying the major crime
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
If you can be proud of supporting Israeli criminal activity or if you feel you have some sort of intellectual arguement that justifies Israel's racist policies then let fly.
The whole idea of YouTube comments is that you and everyone has a chance to back up their opinions.
Go ahead explain how Israel is not racist and is not guilty of war crimes.
Please don't be ashamed of being a Zionist though.
If you want to call names and swear do that. It helps me prove my point.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
I am going to explain to you? an irrational zealot? lol
You can read what I've written here, much more than enough, facts obviously do not matter to you
A Zionist is one who believes as Christians or Jews do, I don't. By your rational, or irrational, you are Palestinian
Palestinians are guilty of gross war crimes under the Geneva conventions
What is your measure of a war crime? That it wasn't a nice thing to do if you just forget that it was done in self defense? to Genocidal aggressors?
omegahpla 2 years ago
If you take the time to read the real history of Israel you will learn that from the very beginning and in this case I am talking about 1880 not 1948 the plan on the part of the European Jews was to establish a ethnic Jewish colony in Palestine.
As the historians have documented based on letters and declarations the Zionists planned to cleanse the land of Palestinians.
It has been one war crime after another since then.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
I am not sure where you are coming from in trying to justify Jewish / Zionist / Israeli war crimes.
I add all three terms there because at various times it has been correct to use each of those terms for the criminals involved.
The British government officially declared the Jewish gangs who killed British soldiers and civilians - terrorists in the 1940's.
It seems you are new to this subject but if you follow along you will start to understand the reality of the racist state of Israel
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
So, if some people in a race do crimes against others, then the race is forever a race of war criminals? Unless they are Palestinians?
Brilliant! lol
I can see you are not a racist, just by the way you don't magnify a few actions into a classification of an entire people, and you don't just totally disregard what others have done ...Oh wait, I have that exactly backwards
And you are going to seriously take the word of Brits, calling others terrorists? You totally missed their history as well?
omegahpla 2 years ago
Your arguments are absolutist and totally selective. You don't balance your weight of judgment at all. If you were taught all of this you are a mindless sheep for not considering anything but extremely biased selective ridiculous drivel to the point of silliness.
You have nothing to say about Palestinians, who decided to wipe out the Israeli's when they outnumbered them 2 to 1, and lost, and got mercy from Israel which they would have never imparted Israelis, had Palestinian aggression won out
omegahpla 2 years ago
The people who call themselves Jews today are not a race. The historic people we know of as Jews were never a race by any description.
The science of genetics does not have a definition for race. Race is a social construct not a scientific construct.
I can say Zionists are racist yet not recognize Jews who call themselves a race as a race.
"Whites" are not a race either but a "white" percon can be a racist if he or she thinks that races exist and they feel one race is inferior.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
Red Herrings don't even exist in nature, but I see you are a big fan. Semantics, Semitics, who gives a flock?
The fact is the Israeli's held a presence in the area for thousands of years. Palestinians are not even a race, and have no historical connection to the land, they were just interlopers who were rejected and treated like crap by the others in the area because they were basic low life bad news. The Jews treat them better than anyone else ever has, despite the ugly problem they have been.
omegahpla 2 years ago
Iran should not remain out of this discussion either, they back Hamas, arm them, and give them all kinds of support. This is not even in question, it's open and notorious.
omegahpla 2 years ago
its amazing that the same folks who cry about isreal being the proxy of the usa (which it certainly is, as well as jordan kuwait, saudi, arabia, qatar, egypt, turkey, etc etc ) ignore the fact that hamas and hezbollah are a persian proxy. both can be true all at once. bigger powers always pull the strings...amazing how folks fall for the microcosm.
battim 2 years ago
Exactly, the selective reality is extremely convoluted thinking. Funny how some people see an argument presented one way, see others accepting it around them, and are convinced this is truth. That is no way to decipher truth.
Then, what is more comical, while profoundly sad, these idiot sheep expand upon the foundation of bullshit and seek to be seen as thoughtful/special w their peers, taking it into an even more illogical place, building on disinformation. Idiocy takes on a life of it's own.
omegahpla 2 years ago
More to your direct point, it's very true. Iran, Syria, and all of their war like activity carried out by those they fund and give orders is largely ignored by the delusional crowd of Palestinian apologist Israel haters
The US has been the champion of Muslims and Jews alike, opposing forces which would act in genocidal policy against them
US and Israel are ironically the best friends Palestinians have. They were treated like dogs by the Arabs who only side with them to side against Israel now
omegahpla 2 years ago
during the massacre last year Israel was not even targetting militants, it relentlessly bombed and killed civilian populations. This was admitted by people in the military who, when interviewed, said independently that they weren't fighting ANYONE
some best friend,.
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
So some people in the military who may not have known the military objective gave an interview and that was enough to convince you beyond doubt that Israel was targeting civilians with no wider objective or that those civilians were hiding military assets of Hamas including weapons and fighters/leaders?
I'm sorry, but that really doesn't seem like a well thought out or fair position. It makes no sense. If Israel wanted to target civilian assets they could, it's not a war crime, yet they don't.
omegahpla 2 years ago
Iran backing Hamas is no less nefarious than America backing Israel with millions of dollars of military aid every year despite their heinous record of human rights abuses which are well catalogued, and yet which you plainly deny in the face of an unquestionable wealth of evidence.
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
Your "unquestionable wealth of evidence" is painfully selective. Israel is in a fight for existence AGAINST the worst type of people on the face of the planet, verified through action and their own words
Iran too, the crazies running the government of Iran, has genocide in mind. They use terrorists who deliberately target innocent civilians, but somehow it's ok with you while Israel's self defense against an aggressor who is vowed to wipe them out, that's much worse?
That's a height of illogic
omegahpla 2 years ago
sorry all you do is put your fingers in your ears and go "la la la" when confronted with evidence, it is pointless debating with someone as ignorant while fixed in their belief system as you are. Logic does not exist in your world view.
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
See, what you have is a perspective problem, a group think problem. You talk about ignoring evidence, when you spout what is probably the popular view around you, and refuse to consider circumstances and won't apply the same standards to all involved. You are severely slanted in this, and you show symptoms of being a party to mass delusion, group think.
What the people around you consider truth, means nothing, and it's no way to judge such a question, let alone base a solution from.
Grow up
omegahpla 2 years ago
You are right, I won't debate standing on your foundation of fermented bull shit. Bad premise begets bad premise, and if you stand on it long enough it begins to look normal, especially with the support of those around you ... but groups by and large, are idiots. People who use others, groups, to evaluate their judgments are by extension being idiots.
I'm not calling you an idiot, but we all have our moments. Our herding instincts can make fools of us all.
Step away, think your own thoughts
omegahpla 2 years ago
I also need to add this. Media is not a really good source of anything but the raw informaiton you can glean from around the objectives they represent, and it's gotten more corrupted as time has come to this point. It's a show, it shows certain points of view, certain facts supporting those desired perspectives, hide or grossly under represent others, and it is used to push your thinking. There is no free media, and there is no entertainment industry that's all about entertainment. It's selling.
omegahpla 2 years ago
If you can trust any civilization to behave sanely, no other country has gone through so much and proven themselves so completely as Israel
Why is it the idiots in the world condemn a country like Israel, and defend a country like Russia with their record of attacking countries which actually do pose zero threat? China with their invasion of Tibet takes less crap from Palestinian extremist genocidal freaks apologists, than Israel does while showing remarkable restraint, that I think goes to far
omegahpla 2 years ago
because Israel consistently choose expansion over security, deliberately provoking the Palestinians to rise up against them violently by bulldoxzing their houses and building walls which seperate communities from their farming land. The evidence backs these statements entirely if you'd care to take a look at it.
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
Israel has full right to take what they won after attempts to wipe them off the face of the earth went badly for the genocidal freaks who initiated it. I don't see why they pussyfoot around. They should carve up Syria and put the Palestinians there, and keep the land they took in the wars. The kind of aggression they faced should have consequences. It should be extremely costly. That would serve as a deterrent, and a just payment for the actions of war against Israel who attacked in self defense
omegahpla 2 years ago
If the Palestinians would live in peace, the efforts to protect Israel from their attacks would have little if any support. Buffer zones are part of this, and Israel is nearly impossible to defend without them. These measures are well justified, vital.
The Palestinians (To general, I know, but as a group it's accurate as they tolerate and support the genocidal crazies which makes them responsible) don't wish to live in peace. They want Israel GONE, and nothing short of this is good enough.
omegahpla 2 years ago
Israel is one of the top countries in the world as far as humanitarian behavior. What do you think any Arab country would do to a group on their border committing atrocities that the Palestinians do?
Israel has every right to render the Palestinian threat neutralized. Every country has that right. If Hamas is hiding among civilians it's the fault of Hamas and those civilians that civilians are hit
Being the stronger power doesn't negate their right to protect themselves. Not in any sane world
omegahpla 2 years ago
You speak of Israel in question as to their ability to be a sane member of international society?
Look, a group of people vow to destroy them, pretty much all the people living in the continent they are on. 7 day war, they were attacked in mass. They have every right to keep the land they took, but they just took some
They have power to utterly destroy those who would do it to them, and they don't. In fact they are one of the best friends Palestinians have ever had. Arabs never helped them.
omegahpla 2 years ago
Israel initiated the 6-day war.
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
that is entirely not true and typically one sided. you continue to leave out facts that aren't conveniant. you simply ignored that arab nations that invaded israel a few years before amassed 100,000 troops on their border. that is what initiated the conflict.
battim 1 year ago
it entirely IS true, Israel invaded their neighbors on that occasion, following a period of relative peace, leading to UN resolutions (which were largely unenforced) being brought against them
You will find what initiated the conflict was when one people handed the land of a second people to a third
a Jew born anywhere in the world may has the right to "return" to Israel whether or not they have links, while Palestinians who were forcefully ran from their homes cannot return to their own land
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
Paranoia? hello? Hamas still holds a policy of total annihilation of Israel. Do you think they are joking? Just a bunch of crazy kids who occasionally blow stuff up accidentally?
See themselves as the victim? Israel didn't attack, they were attacked in attempt to kill them all by Palestinians who outnumbered them better than 2 to 1. If they had lost they would be gone now, a memory.
Your comments are so convoluted & based on false premise one has to wonder if you even really thought it out.
omegahpla 2 years ago
One important ingredient in the US power balance is Christian Zionism.
This is movement particularly strong in the US and controls a lot of lobbying power. It works in conjunction with AIPAC, ADL et. al. to push the Zionist agenda of moving Jews into Palestine. They aid Israel for very different reasons to the the Zionist Jews though, believing that they can precipitate the day of judgement, when, they say, Jews amongst others will go to hell. Odd bedfellows.
mtthwbrnd 2 years ago
there are a vast amount of americans, some atheistl ike me, who are disgusted by the entire situation. the way the usa and soviet union manipluated isreal for their own gain. the way the arabic nations tried to topple isreal when it was in its infancy. the way palestinians are treated in camps for generations in arabs nations. to not see how every party has acted in horridly unethical ways is to see things from one perspective.
battim 2 years ago
Keep in mind that I am still looking to expand my knowledge and refine my opinion. The jews that died in the concentration camps were not the financial elite. They were ordinary jews that one could buy a sausage from on the street. Gasing them would make about as much sense as gasing the American public for the sins of George Bush. P.S. If you cut your hair more like George W you might look less like a psychopath.lol
caninechezmo 2 years ago
it's always noble to seek to expand ones own knowledge.
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
can, this is the jews hold all the blame comment board, have'nt you noticed? hamas and hezbollah who kill folks because they don't follow sharia law are perfectly moral to these people, and jews are bad because their government protects itself. its pretty typical racism masked as leftist, but their is nothing leftist about the support of ultra right muslim political parties.
battim 2 years ago
Hizbollah are not advocates of Sharia Law
I am unaware of Hamas stance on it
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
this is complete misinformation. lol. hezbollah, by their own tenets, are advocates of sharia law. More broadly, current leader Sheikh Nasserallah has described Hizb'allah's ideology as having "two main axis: firstly, a belief in the rule by the just jurisconsult and adherence to Khomeini's leadership; and secondly, the continued need to struggle against the Israeli enemy. are you saying khomeini doesnt advocate sharia law?
battim 2 years ago
No.
Israel should be treated like a state that stands accused of war crimes.
Its leaders should be tried and if found guilty of war crimes and/or crimes against humanity should face whatever pubishment is deemed appropriate by the International Courts of Justice and Israel should pay whatever compensation and forfeits are ordered by that court.
Then everyone should get on with living in peace and serving the one true, and peaceful, God that they claim to believe in.
mtthwbrnd 2 years ago
only in your wildest dreams will that serve a durable peace.
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
How so?
mtthwbrnd 2 years ago
take the leaders out of Israel and try them for war crimes without first having the Israeli people themselves understand what their government has been doign will only lead to those who are demagogues making claims that they are being victimised and hard done by and will make the Israeli people turn to the right and become more authoritarian
plus, theres not a snowballs chance in hell of those war criminals being brought to justice until America is dealt with
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
Where do you stand on violent resistance of the occupation?
i) Against military targets;
ii) Against civilian targets.
mtthwbrnd 2 years ago
In general I will not go so far as to condone any act of violence, however, I think under the circumstances acts of violent resistance are not only inevitable but also provoked by the Israeli government but I need to break your question down further:
1a) Against military targets that are attacking Palestinians
1b) Against military targets that are not attacking Palestinians
2a) Against civilian targets in the occupied territories
2b) Against other civilian targets
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
In circumstance (1a) violent resistance is certainly justified
In circumstances 1b, 2a and 2b, violent resistance may sometimes be justified (in increasing order of rarity) but will almost envitably serve to give the Israeli government an excuse to commit worse acts of violence and atrocities.
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
The international court is a silly biased kangaroo court in the first place. They apply no standard but their own political appetites, and the were basically pulled out of the asses of ego maniacal control freaks attempting to bring some importance and thus power to themselves, by just stating they had it. They don't, and the threats they have made approach acts of war in their own right.
If you could prosecute Israeli leaders for what they have done, most others in war meet that standard.
omegahpla 2 years ago
That is the most profound statement I have ever heard regarding the State of Israel..I think you are onto something extreemly useful. Thanks for sharing that and keep up the good work. It reminds me of the teenager at home that rules the rest of the family...I want it, I want it, I want it...oh fine...have it. You get tired after a while. and just give in until it becomes habitual. Another interesting approach is that of describing the collective psyche of a nation in simpler terms...Leo!
caninechezmo 2 years ago
and by cut hair i mean new haircut
happiness6589746 2 years ago
dude revolutionaryjam, if you just cut your long hair and make it shorter, you just have made one of my Christmas wishes came true. and show your cut hair next time you post a vid.
happiness6589746 2 years ago
lol no bro, actually it's just my conditioner makes it look and feel more manageable :-P sorry
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
what country are you from, im guessing england am i right?
happiness6589746 2 years ago
i like the long hair
battim 2 years ago
thanks
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
The Zionist lobby in the US and Canada are trying to make it a hate crime to condemn Zionism.
As you know the same sort of people try to equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism and squash debate in the process.
You have to conclude that if Israel had a fair record of past deeds then there would be no reason to make commenting on it illegal.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
name one law introduced in either country that even remotely declares this. one. this is a complete lie. revolutionaryjam, why is it you never correct ANYONE that is antiisrael but always correct those who come down on hamas or hezbollah (in fact you have provided misinformation to seem like hezbollah aren't advocates of sharia law in a defense of them)?
battim 1 year ago
You are just feeling bad because you and the other Zionists have ruined your own future.
You pushed and pushed and pushed. The more land you stole from the Plaestinians the more you wanted.
The turning point was when Israel brutally attacked Lebanon and this time it was on TV and world saw the Israeli racism and hate in action.
You lost the public relations war right at that moment and it is just a matter of time until enough Americans learn the truth and we drop Israel.
NEKO2BOT 1 year ago
sweet jesus. that's the most fucking bullshit I've heard for a quite a while.
hardtofault 2 years ago
yup that doesn't surprise me,
something compassionate goes in your ear
filters through your belief system
and by the time it reaches your consciousness
all you hear is bullshit :-)
IndustrialLeper 2 years ago 2
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This is great. I like the way you put it.
RulaMakeupJordan 2 years ago
thankyou I'm trying to bring a compassionate approach to each side
IndustrialLeper 2 years ago
I don't think there is any chance that the US will offer Israeli Jews the opportunity to re-locate to the US and the US will certainly not relocate them by force.
"We" have to let the Israelis know that their ideas about the Apartheid Wall and who has what rights in Palestine are wrong.
Israelis do not get to re-write the history of Palestine to suit an image they want to project.
Boycotting Israeli products is a peaceful way to send Israel a clear message.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
when you say Israelis you should realise that it is only a select few that do this mindfully
infact the mass of them have believed in the re-written history that you talk about x
to be honest I'm not sure the boycott will be effective since it will probably make them think everyone is against them, which is of course, is what makes the people let the government act the way they are acting
(NB. over 70% of Israelis believe settlement building should stop in the West Bank)
IndustrialLeper 2 years ago
You make an important point. Most Israelis are not rewriting history, they are just going along with what the politicians claim is true.
We know one thing, the boycott of Cuba works. I think the boycott of Cuba is totally wrong, BTW.
A boycott of Israel by regular people will not do anything economically but it might force Israelis to examine their racist policies.
It might backfire and make then dig in as you say. That is possible.
All WB settlements have to go, though.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
Neko thanks for the conversation and debate it's been most stimulating
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
Being a victim of a crime in one time and place does in no way justify carrying out another crime in another time and place - then lying about it.
What we must overcome is the Zionist propaganda that says the Jews came to an empty Palestine buitl a home n Arabs invaded from the outside.
That is not true and easily proven untrure.
Current Zionist policy is built on that false premise.
Many Zionists think it is true but it is not and it is justifying an ongoing crime.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
I agree with you that one crime does not justify another... would it not be a crime to uproot the population of Israel who were born in that country, by force, to move them to America? That would be kidnapping, duress, worse!
I would like to see a solution which serves the interests of all. You have to understand the Israeli mind set, they are programmed to beleive things like the wall serve their "Security" ...when infact the complete opposite is true! It is brutish, AND makes them less safe
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
Andrew Fastow, Jewish American criminal, big supporter of Israel.
Jack Abramoff, Jewish American criminal, big supporter of Israel.
Michael Milken, Jewish American criminal, big supporter of Israel.
Bernie Madoff, Jewish American criminal, big supporter of Israel.
Marc Rich, Jewish American criminal, big supporter of Israel.
Ivan Boesky Jewish American criminal, big supporter of Israel.
There are many, many more.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago 2
Before 1948 the US government prohibitted arms sales to the Jews in Palestine but American Jewish organized crime made sure that the Jews got American made weapons and supplies.
Today Israel is a world center of organized crime. The illegal organ trade was in the news but the XTC trade is not while Israelis / Jews control that business.
Israel is a center of human trafficing and illegal arms sales.
You have to read more about Israel to see how rotten it really is.
It is a fraud.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
Meyer "The Brain" Lansky
The real godfather of American organized crime poured millions of dollars into Israel.
He fled there to avoid US prosecution but for once Israel gave a Jewish criminal back to the American authorities - not until they got a pile of money from him.
Read his story and the control he had in Las Vegas and Cuba.
Jews own Las Vegas gambling now and they always did.
It is a huge source of funds destined for Israel.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
Jewish American and Jewish Canadian criminals have played a huge role in the creation of Israel and in preserving it.
It is an historical fact that the Canadian Bronfman family made their fortune, which exists to this day, by illegally trading alcohol back and forth across the US / Canadian border.
They have given tens of millions of dollars to Israel and did so when a million dollars made a huge difference to a struggling nation.
Somehow a generation or two seems to wash money clean.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
Bakuninite:
If you want to describe Israel as something other than a criminal enterprise consider my follow-on comments first.
If you look into the history of organized crime in the Unitied States and Canada in detail you will be shocked to find out that it has been a Jewish undertaking virtually from the start.
The Jewish directors in Hollywood have done a great job of hiding that fact and making a totally different ethinic group look like the main driving force behind organized crime.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
Look, it doesn't matter whether you play nice or make a strong stand, it doesn't matter about morality or logic or international law. That's all irrelevant. The truth is, like you said, israel has all the guns, and so they're going to do what they want with palestinians, and laugh themselves to sleep afterwards, until such time as the power balance changes. Those who support israel will do so no matter what, and have no concern about arabs, other than the fact that they're not dead yet.
n8glenn 2 years ago
The real problem is the US.
If minute the US stopped backing Israel, Israel would have to stop its policy of Apartheid and ethnic-cleansing.
No only does the US not object to Israel policy it funds it.
The majority of Americans don't want that but the elite in Washington have been seduced byt the Israeli lobby and that is a fact.
If enough Americans insist on a change in policy toward Israel the politians will follow.
Youtube is great because it allows access to the truth about Is
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
youtube can also be a blunt tool though. people make videos instead of organising practical action.
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
that all suspected Israeli war criminals be brought to trial an if guilty convicted.
I am not a great fan of punishment. I would much rather see compensation. Guilty Israelis should be in work camps and work for the rest of their lives if their crime was serious enough to pay back what they owe for the damage they have done.
At this moment virtually every Palestinian is being punished while Israelis are being rewarded with my tax dollars.
Does that answer your question?
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
very important situation. We could say everything about this one. thanks
riccardino23 2 years ago
You know Jam, you don't really get this.
People who claim to be Jews went to the ME and took virtually all the land away froma group who have lived there forever. Now they are treating the people they did not kill or drive away like dogs.
I know loads of Israelis and they are racist toward other Israelis let along Arabs.
The country is built on hate and racism.
I do understand that.
All refugees have to be allowed back into Israel / Palestine. Apartheid laws have to be changed.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
what conditions created the hatred and racism?
how does one reverse the tide of hatred and racism rather than create more?
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
Neko I am interested in one thing and one thing alone, that is which course of action will serve to create a lasting, durable and above all Just peace for all concerned,
You quite clearly have an axe to grind and judging from the fact that you dodged answering my qustion it's safe to say that you quite frankly think that jews+israelis just plain deserve to suffer, whether or not that will serve to help the Palestinian people or hinder them. Punishment is ineffective tho, even in child-rearing.
NoIntelligentLife 2 years ago
Punishment is you term not mine.
I don't really think we could swing moving every Jew in Israel to the US but if we could that would not be a punishment - would it?
Millions of people are risking their lives to live in the US.
All of the thousands of Israelis who have committed war crimes or have been complicit in their support for war crimes should be punished.
Israel and Jews have hunted down every for consentration camp guard so it is quite fitting that the guilty Israelis...
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
it would be perceived as a punishment,
Of course those guilty or war crimes should be brought to trial but without creating understanding the mass of the Israeli population will feel that they have been misjudged will they not? They need to be made to understand the history of their state.
When a psychiatrist treats madmen he does not become mad. Sometimes the patient may become angry with him or call hhim names but the doctor is sober and simply treats him.
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
The "psychiatrist" analogy would be fine if we just had a troubled teen on our hands.
In this case though, 1.5 million Gaza Palestinians live in appalling conditions because the majority of them were forced out of their homes in what is now Israel.
Thousands of Palestinians and Lebanese have been murdered.
Israel is a criminal enterprise not a mixed up kid.
This is a job for the police not a psychiatrist.
An economic boycott worked on South Africa it will work on Israel.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
I used to believe that the full on BDS boycott on Israel would work, however, the situations that face Israel and faced South Africa are quite different. SA was completely dependant on Black labour, while Israel is not on Arab. We give too much credit to the international boycott in SA forgetting that it was in coordination with Black refusal to serve the regime.
White SA also did not rest on a nihilistic "we win or we die" ideology, which I will elaborate on.
Bakuninite 2 years ago
Frankly, it doesnt matter whethor or not BDS on Israel is morally just or not. it will not recieve positive effects. Indeed, it would fall right into the laps of the fear-mongering Israeli Right who would say the international community is basically saying "Kauft nicht bei Juden! (dont buy from Jews). This would in all likelyhood be an extremely useful propaganda tool for the worst of the worst of the Israeli right. moral justification is useless next to realistic results.
Bakuninite 2 years ago
I think we do need to take a firm stance on Israel, but one that doesnt serve to threaten and radicalize its society and its politics. Good intentions often can have opposite results.
In the end, only Israel can end the conflict in the near future, and the only way to make them do this is for them to see that the other option entails the occupation ending Israel in the more distant future.
The door for the 2 state solution is slamming shut. if Israel doesnt act, it will slam on their thumbs.
Bakuninite 2 years ago
I disagree with calling Israel a "criminal enterprise". Such terms only muddle and simplify the conflict. Israel, as any other state, society, what have you, is complex and multifaceted. Something as large as a state should never be put on the same page as the Mafia, no matter what crimes the state has commited (this goes for Nazi Germany, the USSR, North Korea as well) because they operate on an entirely different level. Pragmatism, not idealism, is the only avenue to peace and justice IMO
Bakuninite 2 years ago
I think I have already said this but the first thing that must be done is that Israel must allow all the Palestinians from anywhere in the world to return to Israel / Palestine.
If they want to come to Israel proper then they can. If they want to live in the WB or Gaza then they can.
Israel has to compensate all Palestinians for all destroyed property and for making them homeless for 62 years.
Israel vacates all settlements in the WB. Israel withdraws from Sheba and the Golan.
NEKO2BOT 2 years ago
peace ...would love to see peace over there most of all...
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