There is a type of gun being developed where the bullets are kept in the barrel and fired off electronically. Something similar could be adapted to the Gyrojet to replace the faulty mechanical hammer system. They could also use a quicker burning form of propellant or even use variations of propellant for different types of rounds.
This is a really good idea. With a bit of work i think it could have been made better. How bout loading one of these rounds into a conventional say 45 cal round or smaller. That way it has an initial velocity. Then from there it would be able to continue to increase velocity. That would be very interesting.
@2naruto1 technically yes because the powder creates it's own oxygen to burn and fire the weapon, but in space that would mean at the cost of control over yourself. Newton's 1st ( I think) law of motion is- for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, meaning if you fire a conventional weapon in space you're going flying the other way
The implementation is terrible, but the idea has promise, especially if you could fuse missile (standard small arms round) and rocket technology together and come up with a better mechanism to handle the projectile. It would be nice to have a round capable of silently cruising at subsonic speeds over far greater distances than can be offered by conventional silenced sniper rifles. It would be the invisible sniper round.
@GunsOfThePhoenix Thats true, but my point was the first m16s were so shitty my dad threw his away for the Korean's AK-47s. But now they are good given their mass production. As the top comment says, if they hadnt scrapped it, it could have been the future of weapons systems. Or atleast a usefull silent option
it would be good as a sniper rifle as a hybrid,a normal small charge to fire the bullet and a small rocket motor/modded tracer round to extend the range and maintain/increase velocity. it seems that the snipers want a smaller bullet to reduce recoil and also weight of gun.this would maintain the big bullet size,but reduce the gun weight.......
@mightyfinejonboy I agree. It'd probably need its own special casing, though, designed to produce two separate explosions timed within milliseconds of each other. One to propel the round and give it muzzle velocity, and the other to give it the speed and range.
@MEGA93M It's fairly obvious that you know absolutely nothing about explosives, so I might want to suggest that you never ever try to make a thermite rocket. Thermite does not explode, nor does it create gas pressure. It gets very very hot. It's just superfast rusting.
On the Gyrojet weapon: It seems that the first batches of shots were actually superior to the later ones, but that's irrelevant. Had the design been perfected, ie, a conventional+rocket...that would overcome many of the problems.
if its a long range then they shuld develop a sniper gun that uses the 13mm i mean a bullet that needs time with a pistol thats aim is wat u can see and shoot and if u shoot the 13mm from a sniper it wuld probably b only secs away from the 50% boost 2 bad it will b probably b hard 2 make a gun like that :\ o well a dude can dream
@ExcessEnergy cordite inside the bullet requires no oxygen gas because it contains oxygen compounds which supply oxygen to the fuel. i dont know the exact composition of cordite but gunpowder burns fast because it uses an oxidiser instead of oxygen gas in the air, KNO3 supplies Oxygen to the Carbon when heated sufficiently.
@DrDoom7117 there is in fact temperature in outer space, i think its about 3Kelvin or -270 Centigrade, in the solar system in direct sunlight ouside of earth's atmostphere it can reach up to 120 Centigrade, out of sunlight i think is -70-150oC
Well.. the invention of a rocket pistol is awesome only if it can go though somthing or kill someone it would work but like he said 1:53 "This a real hunk of junk".
combine the rocket with a cartridge so the bullet cartridge send it off like a typical bullet and the rocket part will have time to boot the bullet so the effective range is increased seam like someone couldve make a good gun if the wouldve keep at it
too bad this didnt got far it has potential if it became an automatic weapon since it dont need to eject cartridges , and it might be even possible to fit its rocket pistol moniker once they develop a working exploding round~
Not a hunk of junk for the job it did. That pistol could blast thru cement, steel, and dirt like nothing. Besides if you have to shoot an enemy at 3' in war, neither one of you is going to live anyway.
What about a weapon that uses a propellant to exit the barrel, but is still a rocket propelled projectile that ignites after it has left the barrel? I don't know if that's a needlessly complicated weapons system or not. I was just thinking about that for some kind of long range rifle.
I agree with everything the fat fellow says, except the "hunk of junk" comment. If they had undergone continued development for the past thirty years, they probably would have developed a quick-burning propellant by now that would accelerate the round to a lethal velocity at short ranges.
very true, but the reality is; the system we already had works well enough. I mean, we're 30+ years later and we're not exactly engaging in firefights underworld nor in space.
@zephyr40k Actually, they start at around 300 fps at a foot out of the barrel. recent testing in 2004 displayed this. i dont think it would not iflict a wound lol
@CameraBoy999 i have an airsoft pistol that shoots just under 300 fps, i (accidentally) shot myself in the leg from 2 inches away and it hardly left a welt...
@SuperMoongazer@SuperMoongazer yes but ur airsoft gun does not shoot an armor piercing round does it? think about how much heavier a round it is when there is lead involved as opposed to pastic. airsoft round are sphearical , no penetrtion where regular rounds are meant to penetrate
@SuperMoongazer no but it would still do major damage man. . im going to calculate this for u how many more times powerfull the rifle is than ur airsoft to put it in perspective. whats the velocity of your gun, and whats the weight of your round?
@zephyr40k if it accelerates to high velocity before it leaves the barrel it would have the same recoil as a normal gun, i think they should use slow burning propellant until it exits the barrel then more powerful propellant
@zephyr40k Once you've 'developed' this concept for thirty years you'd realize the best design for a light infantry projectile weapon that needs a very wide effect range is actually very similar to today's guns.
You need your projectile to be lethal as soon as it leaves the barrel.So it must complete its acceleration within the barrel. Therefore there's no reason not to make use of the strength of the barrel to make you ammunition far cheaper and with a better weight distribution.
@zephyr40k That and with smaller motor technology you could put the hammer in the back of the gun to eliminate the need of the rocket to over come the tension.
@zephyr40k Well i m not a small arm expert, but if you can launch this projectile with closed chamber, it is commonsense that it will travel with a initial lethal speed as any other small arms bullet.
Plus, in future, with technological development scientist can produce guided bullets. They should think about it.
And if my idea is technically wrong then someone correct me on this.
@zephyr40k i could not agree more. my and my friends we build rocket fuel all the time for demo purposes and let me tell u the fuel in the rounds is weak compared to a batch of our stuff
@zephyr40k Or, they would use Wh40K-style Bolter rounds; instead of that *idiot* "hammer strikes the nose" design, use a caseless primary charge that fires it with a decent speed, while the gyrojet keeps the trajectory flat and the speed ever-increasing.
And, on that note, why design a pistol-type weapon when the whole advantage lies in range and accuracy? Amateur logic tells me the first thought should be "Sniper".
Except the rocket wasn't very accurate even in the handgun. Someone mentioned the handgun wasn't rifled, but there's too much that can go wrong with the rocket itself while it's traveling to the target.
And accuracy is an absolute must for this situation, would be a PR nightmare if the police sniper's gyrojet sniper rifle spiraled into the hostage rather than the bad guy that's holding them up.
No they wouldn't. There's no oxygen in space to supply the propellant with the resources it needs. All you'd get would be a hammer hitting a bullet and then it sits there. No bang, no bullet.
indeed! a gyrojet is simple to make, all you need is a rifle bullet and a centre lathe to make a combution chamber for a buller and a 9mm gun primer to make a simple rocket. or used a lathe and a piece of metal ...
@BenDover03271996 lol I would not toss that work around if you don't even understand the basic principle behind a fire. You do not need oxygen or oxyen as you put it you just need an oxidizer that is a compound that redily transfers oxygen atoms. The oxidizers saltpeter or niter have been in gunpowder for centuries. Back to highschool chemistry class for you!
@frother a normal gun wouldn't work in outer space, for the shire fact there is no oxygen for ignition...lol i think, im no rocket scientist, i do get pussy haha
@frother actually, regular guns wouldnt work in space, and fyi, they made em to work in space incase the vietnamese joined sides with darth vader.. duhhhh
@frother "normal guns would work in space anyway" Sure they do. And I bet we can breathe there too huh? Guns dont work in space you twit. The "gunpowder" In guns burns! (just really fast) and guess what you need to burn things: ding ding ding!! Oxygen! AIR!!!
you are so fucking stupid. Do you think there are fans blowing oxygen into the cartridge so the powder can burn? What about the powder surrounded only by powder and not air?
Smokeless powder has an oxidizer mixed in so that it can burn instantly. No external oxygen required.
@ataraxic89 In theory, but until you fire a gun in space, you don't know for certain it doesn't work. There COULD be just enough oxygen in a bullet casing to ignite, and fire the gun. Doubtful though.
@FlySpyGuy no, I temporarily forgot that it has an oxidizer in the gunpowder. So they should work. But who needs to fire handheld guns in space? I mean, no idiot is ever gonna risk puncturing the thing they are in with guns.
@ataraxic89 I was never sure. But what I said works both ways. You never know for certain until you try it. Theory is great, but no matter how sure you are, it's never 100% accurate, it's still theory. That was my point...
About your newest question, who would fire guns in space...obviously Space Pirates...also, Space Hicks, and Space Red Necks.
they need something to stabilize and direct the flight of the projectile at low velocity. if you can think of something better than a barrel then i will be happy to hear it.
yes they are, but they do not intently spin fast enough to be stable. just like model rockets with the rod that directs the rocket up (instead of sideways) the mini giro jet rocket pistol uses the barrel to make sure it went in the correct direction.
this is a good prototype to just prove the concept but in a longer range weapon such as a sniper or marksman weapon this could be a very lethal device
Dafroft, giving it a longer barrel does not make it shoot farther, once the rocket leaves the barrel it's the rocket itself that determines it's range. If you want a longer range rocket, you simply need more fuel, so a bigger diameter or a longer length of rocket will get you farther range. You could, if manufactured to a high standard, make a pistol with the range of a sniper rifle. :)
well the longer barrel isnt really necessary but if u r aiming at a target far away it is a little more comfortable to be holding a rifle configuration then a pistol in my opinion, but i see wat ur saying
I never thought of that, you could have it set up like a bullpup sniper rifle with an adjustable stock and scope etc, except that the barrel would be really really short.
You could be looking at the weapon used to shoot Kennedy in Dallas. The gyrojet left a small puff of smoke (to build up thrust) and an odor along the line of its projectiles path. This explained the smoke seen along the wall of the grassy knoll of Dealy Plaza and why all the hunters in the motorcade remembered a smell like gunpowder. This could also explain why the weapon was eventually dropped as a potential weapon after having been developed well enough to assassinate a U.S. President.
these are great i want to make a fin stabilized rifle. with aluminium to make the fuel burn faster longer "rifle" sized cartridges to burn longer and electronically primed to avoid the problems with semi auto. in bullpup configuration with 20 rnd mags!
I have to disagree with the "specialist" because the Gyrojet is not a hunk of junk, the hammer system is crap but there is nothing wrong with the bullet itself.
The "bullets" themselves were part of the problem - instead forcing the projectile through a rifled barrel, its 4 "exhausts" were slightly angled. If the exhausts did not each generate the same amount of thrust (as was often the case with its low-quality ammunition, especially in humid wheather), it wouldn't spin correctly, and accuracy suffered.
Then there was the fact that the bullet needed to accelerate for several meters before being lethal, making it pretty much useless for home defense.
I absolutely agree with you and it is a real shame the military did not look to take this idea to its true and awesome potential. Instead we are left with the generally bad, standard propellant cartridges we have today.
this would be a great weapon, especially for an automatic weapon. The low recoul would allow you to get a lot a well aimed shots of at the target, with very little recoil
There is a type of gun being developed where the bullets are kept in the barrel and fired off electronically. Something similar could be adapted to the Gyrojet to replace the faulty mechanical hammer system. They could also use a quicker burning form of propellant or even use variations of propellant for different types of rounds.
STSWB5SG1FAN 1 week ago
Why does the top comment have no thumbs up?
G4homeonline 2 months ago
This is a really good idea. With a bit of work i think it could have been made better. How bout loading one of these rounds into a conventional say 45 cal round or smaller. That way it has an initial velocity. Then from there it would be able to continue to increase velocity. That would be very interesting.
kdoubleg 2 months ago
By the Emperor, it's a bolt pistol!
HitandRyan 3 months ago
This should have been in Black Ops.
TinyClocks 4 months ago
@TinyClocks this gun would barely work sometimes, so if you want it to jam in the game, that's your problem
firewurker 4 months ago
@firewurker It wouldn't have made Black Ops any worse than it already is.
TinyClocks 4 months ago
this sounds like the start to the technology of curving bullets
mattxXx13 4 months ago
@mattxXx13 grenades would be better than curving bullets >_>
Qwertype315 3 months ago
@Qwertype315 curving explosive bullets then
mattxXx13 3 months ago
but will it blend?
MrSamster911 4 months ago 2
The hammer design is retarded, as is the decision to make it a pistol (close range)
It would work very well as a Squad automatic weapon if the ignition system were improved.
Maybe make the rounds 15MM and incendiary/explosive, Now your talking!
dukenukemthreed 5 months ago
Dear Santa,
madarauchiha1218 6 months ago
so why not rocket sniper?
Xiammes 6 months ago
@Xiammes Rounds had a tendency to spin off target at longer distances.
crazy4sian 5 months ago 2
@crazy4sian
OK, that answers the question, why they didn't make gyro rocket snipers!
BK0125 2 months ago
@Xiammes They did actually make a Carbine and a Sniper Rifle variation. But, like the guy said. It was a piece of wood and plastic junk.
GunsOfThePhoenix 1 week ago
So... bolters huh?
Saiko47 6 months ago
Don't forget the space urbanites, space gangstas and space yanks
imloadedtoad 6 months ago
the most interesting aspect of the gun that they should have emphasized is that rockets dont undergo parabolic projectile motion
Shredderfrank 6 months ago
@Shredderfrank At least not while the rocket is burning.
FlySpyGuy 6 months ago
i like the smell of my wife`s diarrhea
kamrat40 6 months ago
@2naruto1 technically yes because the powder creates it's own oxygen to burn and fire the weapon, but in space that would mean at the cost of control over yourself. Newton's 1st ( I think) law of motion is- for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, meaning if you fire a conventional weapon in space you're going flying the other way
halopartyboy 7 months ago
The first bolt pistol.
CrudusViscus 7 months ago
@CrudusViscus That's funny! I was looking this up just to see what it'd look like! WH40k is awesome.
FlySpyGuy 6 months ago
you can fire any gun in space
2naruto1 7 months ago
This a hunkajunk.
phgHunter 7 months ago
The implementation is terrible, but the idea has promise, especially if you could fuse missile (standard small arms round) and rocket technology together and come up with a better mechanism to handle the projectile. It would be nice to have a round capable of silently cruising at subsonic speeds over far greater distances than can be offered by conventional silenced sniper rifles. It would be the invisible sniper round.
tommy9922 8 months ago
I wanna shoot something like a bear with that..... 13mm bullet + rocket propulsion = ???
PanKaikz 11 months ago
Hmm, seems like I heard of something else america made in 60s that was a "hunk of junk" Hmm, OH YEAH! The m16 and look where it is now!
ataraxic89 1 year ago
@ataraxic89 Even the modern upgraded M16/M4/CAR-15 still has problems, not as bad as the first generation ones but still.
GunsOfThePhoenix 7 months ago
@GunsOfThePhoenix Thats true, but my point was the first m16s were so shitty my dad threw his away for the Korean's AK-47s. But now they are good given their mass production. As the top comment says, if they hadnt scrapped it, it could have been the future of weapons systems. Or atleast a usefull silent option
ataraxic89 7 months ago
@ataraxic89 I personally would have just stuck with the M14 in Vietnam, or the M1 Grande since it was still being used in limited numbers.
GunsOfThePhoenix 7 months ago
it would be good as a sniper rifle as a hybrid,a normal small charge to fire the bullet and a small rocket motor/modded tracer round to extend the range and maintain/increase velocity. it seems that the snipers want a smaller bullet to reduce recoil and also weight of gun.this would maintain the big bullet size,but reduce the gun weight.......
mightyfinejonboy 1 year ago 2
@mightyfinejonboy I agree. It'd probably need its own special casing, though, designed to produce two separate explosions timed within milliseconds of each other. One to propel the round and give it muzzle velocity, and the other to give it the speed and range.
crazy4sian 10 months ago
Classic example of somebody trying to fix something that ain't broke.
SAGEBOT500 1 year ago
@MEGA93M It's fairly obvious that you know absolutely nothing about explosives, so I might want to suggest that you never ever try to make a thermite rocket. Thermite does not explode, nor does it create gas pressure. It gets very very hot. It's just superfast rusting.
On the Gyrojet weapon: It seems that the first batches of shots were actually superior to the later ones, but that's irrelevant. Had the design been perfected, ie, a conventional+rocket...that would overcome many of the problems.
G0ldbl4e 1 year ago
I really wish they had finished work on these guns.
I want me a sploodin rocket launcherpistol.
SHOOPDABLAARGH 1 year ago
How much does it weight?
Segador128 1 year ago
might work on a sniper. shut up fools who says that takes care of no scopers.
MrFerretlover 1 year ago
i would use thermite as the prapelent its burns faster and hotter you could shoot someone an inch away it would kill them
MEGA93M 1 year ago
@MEGA93M I thought thermite burned fairly slow
baby2kent 1 year ago
@baby2kent no it burns fast like gun powder
MEGA93M 1 year ago
if its a long range then they shuld develop a sniper gun that uses the 13mm i mean a bullet that needs time with a pistol thats aim is wat u can see and shoot and if u shoot the 13mm from a sniper it wuld probably b only secs away from the 50% boost 2 bad it will b probably b hard 2 make a gun like that :\ o well a dude can dream
leonricardo20 1 year ago
hmm, 13mm
Remarkably powerful for small size
Reminds me of Halo's "magnum", that was implausibly powerful even at extreme ranges. Maybe it was using rocket bullets.
Ah, who cares, it's a video game the programmers can make any gun as over-powered as they like.
Treblaine 1 year ago
normal guns wouldn't work in space; no oxygen to ignite the powder = no propulsion = you're pulling a trigger for no reason.
ExcessEnergy 1 year ago
@ExcessEnergy cordite inside the bullet requires no oxygen gas because it contains oxygen compounds which supply oxygen to the fuel. i dont know the exact composition of cordite but gunpowder burns fast because it uses an oxidiser instead of oxygen gas in the air, KNO3 supplies Oxygen to the Carbon when heated sufficiently.
ConnorXV 1 year ago
@slifer8910. It wouldn't freeze in space because there is no temperature in space
DrDoom7117 1 year ago
@DrDoom7117 there is in fact temperature in outer space, i think its about 3Kelvin or -270 Centigrade, in the solar system in direct sunlight ouside of earth's atmostphere it can reach up to 120 Centigrade, out of sunlight i think is -70-150oC
ConnorXV 1 year ago
@ConnorXV Well, my bad, but I do know that that shit ain't going to freeze.
DrDoom7117 1 year ago
HUNKAJUNK
Katsujosh 1 year ago
Actually, i really admire the thinking process behind this gun! Great job to the designers.
mrcannotfindaname 1 year ago
its a great idea for a navy sniper if u can use underwater and works better at long ranges
benpie12 1 year ago
THI THI THIS IS A REAL HUNK OF JUNK
jlc2100 1 year ago
This is from modern marvels episode "failed inventions".
J0HNNYREB1 1 year ago
Well.. the invention of a rocket pistol is awesome only if it can go though somthing or kill someone it would work but like he said 1:53 "This a real hunk of junk".
BoltBullet21 1 year ago
What episode was this from?
girrrrrrr2 1 year ago
make a .50 cal version of that bullet and you've got yourself an anti-satellite sniper.
iChayce 1 year ago 2
@iChayce That rocket is .30mm larger than a 50 cal, Wow!
The30calboy 1 year ago
what enpesido of modern mavels was it
mw2ownerrocks 1 year ago
I don't care if they were ineffective. I think they're cool as hell.
WolksVagon449 1 year ago
combine the rocket with a cartridge so the bullet cartridge send it off like a typical bullet and the rocket part will have time to boot the bullet so the effective range is increased seam like someone couldve make a good gun if the wouldve keep at it
MrBigtower 1 year ago
in Games Workshop's warhammer40k universe the bolter is based on the gyrojet principle...on steroids of course:P
spartan585 1 year ago
i want one lol
floryanovich 1 year ago
too bad this didnt got far it has potential if it became an automatic weapon since it dont need to eject cartridges , and it might be even possible to fit its rocket pistol moniker once they develop a working exploding round~
boomstix 1 year ago
Not a hunk of junk for the job it did. That pistol could blast thru cement, steel, and dirt like nothing. Besides if you have to shoot an enemy at 3' in war, neither one of you is going to live anyway.
StormRisingOriginal 1 year ago
super rate of fire!! no ejection
mrfrankincense 1 year ago
lol
"this is a real hunka junk"
lol
merctp45 1 year ago
Coilgun + GyroJet =Works
super00su 1 year ago
real life bolter pistol
dwarfy122 1 year ago
i only know one type of weapon other than this that was an epic failure and it was the nuclear rifle.
CoolDJKool 1 year ago
I like it !
it is interesting ^^
7Gkar7 1 year ago
I wonder how much ammo costs
lexmark136 1 year ago
lex the ammo for the gyrojet costs 100 dollars per round to make so about 150 200 dollars
solarflaredragon45 1 year ago
@solarflaredragon45 not 100 to make....100 retail price. A lot less to make. Supply and demand though.
lavid2006 1 year ago
This a real hunka junk...
Halo1138 1 year ago 2
this is one of the most memorable and need to be rebuild like the AA-12
11251309 2 years ago
Yeah !
A Warhammer 40K Bolter !!
KuBi4K 2 years ago
THIS 'A REAL HUNK-A JUNK
JohnnyMidnight1 2 years ago
collectors item
pudd750 2 years ago
this is a real hunk of junk lmao
bigphil190 2 years ago
@bigphil190 But So Interesting! xD
gun4877 2 years ago
What about a weapon that uses a propellant to exit the barrel, but is still a rocket propelled projectile that ignites after it has left the barrel? I don't know if that's a needlessly complicated weapons system or not. I was just thinking about that for some kind of long range rifle.
kasrkinmullet 2 years ago
I agree with everything the fat fellow says, except the "hunk of junk" comment. If they had undergone continued development for the past thirty years, they probably would have developed a quick-burning propellant by now that would accelerate the round to a lethal velocity at short ranges.
zephyr40k 2 years ago 26
very true, but the reality is; the system we already had works well enough. I mean, we're 30+ years later and we're not exactly engaging in firefights underworld nor in space.
JamRunner 2 years ago
@zephyr40k Actually, they start at around 300 fps at a foot out of the barrel. recent testing in 2004 displayed this. i dont think it would not iflict a wound lol
CameraBoy999 1 year ago
@CameraBoy999 i have an airsoft pistol that shoots just under 300 fps, i (accidentally) shot myself in the leg from 2 inches away and it hardly left a welt...
SuperMoongazer 1 year ago
@SuperMoongazer yes but ur airsoft gun does not shoot an armor piercing round does it?
CameraBoy999 1 year ago
@SuperMoongazer @SuperMoongazer yes but ur airsoft gun does not shoot an armor piercing round does it? think about how much heavier a round it is when there is lead involved as opposed to pastic. airsoft round are sphearical , no penetrtion where regular rounds are meant to penetrate
CameraBoy999 1 year ago
@CameraBoy999 well, dos an armor piercing round traveling at 300 fps pierce much armor? nope...
SuperMoongazer 1 year ago
@SuperMoongazer no but it would still do major damage man. . im going to calculate this for u how many more times powerfull the rifle is than ur airsoft to put it in perspective. whats the velocity of your gun, and whats the weight of your round?
CameraBoy999 1 year ago
@zephyr40k if it accelerates to high velocity before it leaves the barrel it would have the same recoil as a normal gun, i think they should use slow burning propellant until it exits the barrel then more powerful propellant
mrfrankincense 1 year ago
@zephyr40k Once you've 'developed' this concept for thirty years you'd realize the best design for a light infantry projectile weapon that needs a very wide effect range is actually very similar to today's guns.
You need your projectile to be lethal as soon as it leaves the barrel.So it must complete its acceleration within the barrel. Therefore there's no reason not to make use of the strength of the barrel to make you ammunition far cheaper and with a better weight distribution.
Ergo - HoJ.
Idiotsmakemesad 1 year ago
@zephyr40k That and with smaller motor technology you could put the hammer in the back of the gun to eliminate the need of the rocket to over come the tension.
TheMohawkNinja 1 year ago
@zephyr40k Well i m not a small arm expert, but if you can launch this projectile with closed chamber, it is commonsense that it will travel with a initial lethal speed as any other small arms bullet.
Plus, in future, with technological development scientist can produce guided bullets. They should think about it.
And if my idea is technically wrong then someone correct me on this.
a11457exp 1 year ago
@zephyr40k i could not agree more. my and my friends we build rocket fuel all the time for demo purposes and let me tell u the fuel in the rounds is weak compared to a batch of our stuff
rev6112 1 year ago
@zephyr40k Or, they would use Wh40K-style Bolter rounds; instead of that *idiot* "hammer strikes the nose" design, use a caseless primary charge that fires it with a decent speed, while the gyrojet keeps the trajectory flat and the speed ever-increasing.
And, on that note, why design a pistol-type weapon when the whole advantage lies in range and accuracy? Amateur logic tells me the first thought should be "Sniper".
LordSia13 7 months ago
I wonder if the rocket was so powerful, that they could use it in a sniper rifle instead of a close range handgun.
GunsOfThePhoenix 2 years ago 9
Yeah why the hell would they use a rocket in a pistol anyway. A rifle is from a more logical stand point of reasoning.
jmk0309 2 years ago
Except the rocket wasn't very accurate even in the handgun. Someone mentioned the handgun wasn't rifled, but there's too much that can go wrong with the rocket itself while it's traveling to the target.
And accuracy is an absolute must for this situation, would be a PR nightmare if the police sniper's gyrojet sniper rifle spiraled into the hostage rather than the bad guy that's holding them up.
JamRunner 2 years ago
"..wasn't very accurate..." is clear understatement for a spread around 3m at 100m distance. This sounds more like extremely inacurate. 8D
SwineNahNah 1 year ago
@GunsOfThePhoenix
I was just thinking the same thing.
TotesMagotes 7 months ago
I think its a good concept that if developed more could become a very effective weapon.
Royalfork1 2 years ago
THIS IS A REAL HUNK OF JUNK
SolarianN2 2 years ago
Lol that's silly
imagorilla3 2 years ago
It's a bummer...this concept could have been great.
ShroudedKiller 2 years ago
Who is the fat, bald guy talking? I've seen him on the History Channel more than once.
Thagomizor 2 years ago
yeah, me too. I call him bullet head cuz his head is so pointy
smellsliketeens 2 years ago 2
If i remember correctly, he's ex-marine and vietnam vet.
MokomaSusi 2 years ago
That's all well and good, but I still don't know his name. Lol
Thagomizor 2 years ago
the fat bald dude's name is william atwater. I see him all the time on the military channel
4everhabs 2 years ago
Thanks a bunch.
Thagomizor 2 years ago
I'm sure outer space combat was a major priority during the Vietnam war
normal guns would work in space anyway, although recoilless guns like this would be easier to handle
frother 2 years ago 26
"normal guns would work in space anyway"
No they wouldn't. There's no oxygen in space to supply the propellant with the resources it needs. All you'd get would be a hammer hitting a bullet and then it sits there. No bang, no bullet.
futuredirector1138 2 years ago
Yes they would, gun powder is made with its own oxidizers to initiate the explosion and propel the bullet.
redlion7277 2 years ago 3
Oops. My bad, you're right. I looked it up on Google.
futuredirector1138 2 years ago 2
do you know that gunpowder has an oxidizer inside it like all explosives so it would fire in space!
mrfrankincense 2 years ago
indeed! a gyrojet is simple to make, all you need is a rifle bullet and a centre lathe to make a combution chamber for a buller and a 9mm gun primer to make a simple rocket. or used a lathe and a piece of metal ...
hybridpyrotech 2 years ago
@frother normal guns wouldn't work in space because fire needs oxyen. retard
BenDover03271996 1 year ago
@BenDover03271996 .....gunpowder doesnt need oxygen to burn. How else do you think rockets in space are run?
ddmo2 1 year ago
@BenDover03271996
You can in fact use a gun in space.
If you learned physics, you would no.
Besides a spark and an explosion is all is needed to propel the bullet in space.
malcolmsaint 1 year ago
@BenDover03271996 there is oxygen in the powder
mrfrankincense 1 year ago
@BenDover03271996 lol I would not toss that work around if you don't even understand the basic principle behind a fire. You do not need oxygen or oxyen as you put it you just need an oxidizer that is a compound that redily transfers oxygen atoms. The oxidizers saltpeter or niter have been in gunpowder for centuries. Back to highschool chemistry class for you!
wormbaby79 1 year ago
@frother a normal gun wouldn't work in outer space, for the shire fact there is no oxygen for ignition...lol i think, im no rocket scientist, i do get pussy haha
mikeymike3232 1 year ago
@mikeymike3232
the smokeless propellants used in bullets have oxygen as part of their chemical makeup so they can burn instantaneously.
frother 1 year ago
@frother actually, regular guns wouldnt work in space, and fyi, they made em to work in space incase the vietnamese joined sides with darth vader.. duhhhh
Kawasakiforlife7 1 year ago
@frother *no air in space + Bullet won't ignite. = Won't work in space.
CptCommonSense 1 year ago
@CptCommonSense
fucking look 2 comments down. The propellent has an oxidizer mixed in.
frother 1 year ago
@frother guns need oxygen to fire, this had a self contained gas supply in each gyrojet
illlite 1 year ago
@frother no the mechanisms would freeze in space
slifer8910 1 year ago
@slifer8910
oh, hm. you may be right if the mechanism depends on atmospheric pressure to cock again. I dont know how those things work
frother 1 year ago
@frother "normal guns would work in space anyway" Sure they do. And I bet we can breathe there too huh? Guns dont work in space you twit. The "gunpowder" In guns burns! (just really fast) and guess what you need to burn things: ding ding ding!! Oxygen! AIR!!!
ataraxic89 1 year ago 2
@ataraxic89
you are so fucking stupid. Do you think there are fans blowing oxygen into the cartridge so the powder can burn? What about the powder surrounded only by powder and not air?
Smokeless powder has an oxidizer mixed in so that it can burn instantly. No external oxygen required.
frother 11 months ago
@frother lol Yeah, I remembered that about 30 secs after posting. But oh well. Everyone makes mistakes ;-)
ataraxic89 11 months ago
@ataraxic89 you just broke internet flaming rule number 8, never admit your mistakes!
jrmyscttwds 10 months ago
@jrmyscttwds youre right! lol IT CANT MAKE ITS OWN MAGIC OXYGEN! :D
ataraxic89 10 months ago
@ataraxic89 In theory, but until you fire a gun in space, you don't know for certain it doesn't work. There COULD be just enough oxygen in a bullet casing to ignite, and fire the gun. Doubtful though.
FlySpyGuy 6 months ago
@FlySpyGuy no, I temporarily forgot that it has an oxidizer in the gunpowder. So they should work. But who needs to fire handheld guns in space? I mean, no idiot is ever gonna risk puncturing the thing they are in with guns.
ataraxic89 6 months ago
@ataraxic89 I was never sure. But what I said works both ways. You never know for certain until you try it. Theory is great, but no matter how sure you are, it's never 100% accurate, it's still theory. That was my point...
About your newest question, who would fire guns in space...obviously Space Pirates...also, Space Hicks, and Space Red Necks.
FlySpyGuy 6 months ago
@FlySpyGuy rofl, very good reply.
ataraxic89 6 months ago
@FlySpyGuy @imloadedtoad And Space Marines. Duh
Robalose 6 months ago
@Robalose True dat, yo.
FlySpyGuy 6 months ago
hunk of junk maybe but innovative and creative
reaperflynn3 2 years ago
Why not use both systems in one?
First an explosion in the gun to earn some speed, then the rocketmotor takes over?!
Could be a nice long range projectile.
oxking0815 2 years ago
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Gyro rocket?
ok, people, there is no gun that shoots rockets, or missiles that I know of, they are propelled grenades.
and its called a gyrojet
yellowmadness54 2 years ago
i dont think having holes all along the barrel helped it going any fasterr <:o
deptofmisc 2 years ago
Gyrojets don't need barrels. :p
SeverEnergia 2 years ago
they need something to stabilize and direct the flight of the projectile at low velocity. if you can think of something better than a barrel then i will be happy to hear it.
sirivedya 2 years ago
They're spin stabilized. :p Rockets can spin themselves up, unlike bullets.
SeverEnergia 2 years ago
yes they are, but they do not intently spin fast enough to be stable. just like model rockets with the rod that directs the rocket up (instead of sideways) the mini giro jet rocket pistol uses the barrel to make sure it went in the correct direction.
sirivedya 2 years ago
the nozzle of the rocket is angled so it spins
Dafroft 2 years ago
this is a good prototype to just prove the concept but in a longer range weapon such as a sniper or marksman weapon this could be a very lethal device
Dafroft 2 years ago
Dafroft, giving it a longer barrel does not make it shoot farther, once the rocket leaves the barrel it's the rocket itself that determines it's range. If you want a longer range rocket, you simply need more fuel, so a bigger diameter or a longer length of rocket will get you farther range. You could, if manufactured to a high standard, make a pistol with the range of a sniper rifle. :)
MrAlexZander 2 years ago
well the longer barrel isnt really necessary but if u r aiming at a target far away it is a little more comfortable to be holding a rifle configuration then a pistol in my opinion, but i see wat ur saying
Dafroft 2 years ago
I never thought of that, you could have it set up like a bullpup sniper rifle with an adjustable stock and scope etc, except that the barrel would be really really short.
MrAlexZander 2 years ago
lol i want to be shot at short range now :L
Ozinco 2 years ago
"It may just bounce of of em" xD
shozonu 2 years ago
You could be looking at the weapon used to shoot Kennedy in Dallas. The gyrojet left a small puff of smoke (to build up thrust) and an odor along the line of its projectiles path. This explained the smoke seen along the wall of the grassy knoll of Dealy Plaza and why all the hunters in the motorcade remembered a smell like gunpowder. This could also explain why the weapon was eventually dropped as a potential weapon after having been developed well enough to assassinate a U.S. President.
RompingWillyBilly 2 years ago
I lol'd, Romping. I lol'd.
MrFlylice 2 years ago
cool now all the rocket needs is a cute little warhead that wont blow up when the hammer strikes it
busyhands94 2 years ago 2
these are great i want to make a fin stabilized rifle. with aluminium to make the fuel burn faster longer "rifle" sized cartridges to burn longer and electronically primed to avoid the problems with semi auto. in bullpup configuration with 20 rnd mags!
mrfrankincense 2 years ago
well if it needs to gain speed why dont they just make a sniper rifle version
daranged5 2 years ago
make a sniper gyro rifle! own all! lol that would be awesome;)
TheCleanCleaner 2 years ago
I looked it up. This actually was the gun that they used in the James Bond movie, "You Can Only Live
Twice".
omgI15m 2 years ago 2
That thing would be excellent for target pistol. No recoil at all.
KillFrenzie 2 years ago
not no recoil
mrfrankincense 2 years ago
Less then a .22 short.
KillFrenzie 2 years ago
yes probably
mrfrankincense 2 years ago
What show is this?
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Chamiyajom 2 years ago
lmao at the end ..
douche2012 2 years ago
Can somebody please tell me where I can get more info and details on the weapon?
It is difficult to find information concerning the Gyrojet so any help would be greatly appreciated.
dawnninjawolf 2 years ago
I have to disagree with the "specialist" because the Gyrojet is not a hunk of junk, the hammer system is crap but there is nothing wrong with the bullet itself.
dawnninjawolf 2 years ago
The "bullets" themselves were part of the problem - instead forcing the projectile through a rifled barrel, its 4 "exhausts" were slightly angled. If the exhausts did not each generate the same amount of thrust (as was often the case with its low-quality ammunition, especially in humid wheather), it wouldn't spin correctly, and accuracy suffered.
Then there was the fact that the bullet needed to accelerate for several meters before being lethal, making it pretty much useless for home defense.
KingHodor 2 years ago
I still think it has a lot of potential for use in a minigun.
dawnninjawolf 2 years ago
It's the same problem as with many other technologies: the supporting tech wasn't there.
The angled thrust bullets worked fine... unless there was a problem in manufacturing that blocked one port. Today higher standards could be met.
The cruddy hammer system could now be replaced with electronic ignition.
The low initial velocity could be fixed by either using a regular charge to start it out fast (hybrid bullet) or by using higher-thrust propellant.
And so on. This idea should be retried.
SailorBarsoom 2 years ago
I absolutely agree with you and it is a real shame the military did not look to take this idea to its true and awesome potential. Instead we are left with the generally bad, standard propellant cartridges we have today.
wargod2009 2 years ago
this would be a great weapon, especially for an automatic weapon. The low recoul would allow you to get a lot a well aimed shots of at the target, with very little recoil
ddmo2 2 years ago
but only from a distance
superultramegaman5 2 years ago