ok ok time out, disney took this out because it was to dark for the kids, ok, so in the lion king mufasa death and scar getting eaten alive by hyenas weren't dark, and in hunch back of notre dame, frollo's song hellfire, and him falling into a firey pit weren't dark, seriously disney sequels aren't as graphic violent or dark as the first one but some are good like this movie even though it can't really compete with the first one
My childhood is now in tatters... so why do I enjoy the concept more than the final version? There's something rather fitting about "Zira's Suicide" over "Zira's Death".
@x1akurei I personally always interpreted it as suicide, even when I was really young. Its still suicide in the regular movie when she refuses Kiara's help, that way is still suicide just more subtle.
Oh, bloody hell.... D: This version of Zira's death is absolutely chilling! :O Glad they cut the original end of this scene out--otherwise, I would have been scarred for life if I actually saw it... D-8
1. Trying to drag the person who was genuinely trying to help you down with you.
2. Laughing knowing that you're going to die.
3. Staring at the person right in the face refusing help and in the most darkest way, express that you'd rather choose death then to be helped by said person.
If this was in The Lion King 2, Zira would've been my 2nd all time fav villain. (next to Malificent) Not only that, it would've been the most epic Disney death.
Is this from the US bonus DVD of the special edition? I've never seen this before - on the german DVD there is only less bonus material. What else is on the bonus DVD of the US edition? I'm thinking about importing it perhaps...
They really need to make a lion king 3/4 and explain what the fuck happened to kopa (simbas son) fair enough we have an "official" story made by fans but there really should b a film about it
okay so what i don't understand is.. fair enough that this is very creepy but they put an almost suicide theme in the incredibles..soooo what difference does it make?
@DRAGOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN definitely not as creepy as this but it's right at the beginning when Mr Incredible is doing hero duties before his wedding and saves the citizen who throws himself off the building..then that's when the 'supers' get criticized because he never wanted to be saved.
@FallingvAwayvFromvMe Firstly, that's Pixar and this is Disney. Secondly, there's 6 years between them. Also where is there a almost suicide theme in the Incredibles
@joevictor53 Pixar is still owned by the Disney company and they certainly wouldn't let anything jeopardize their reputation..and it's right at the beginning when Mr Incredible is doing hero duties before his wedding and saves the citizen who throws himself off the building..that's when the 'supers' get criticized because he never wanted to be saved.
Zira pretty much died for nothing, i mean the hyenas were the true killers of scar i mean didn't she notice his carcass half eaten(if there was any left), and they didn't die they just ran away so she could of went after them, or teamed up with simba to get them or something, but then again disney villains aren't always the smartest, i just wish the hyenas were in this film, would of been more fun and entertaining
Also, the other ending is the kind of thing that would haunt Kiara. I hated that ending because Kiara could do nothing to help her, even if Zira changed her mind. I always thought the guilt Kiara would have from watching Zira die would be much like Simbas from the first movie. Since she couldn't win Zira over, or help her, she died. Instead of it being Zira's choice to die.
As a little kid I thought it was Kiara's fault Zira died.
I like this ending better, it shows the true hatred of the pridelanders that Zira harbors. She would rather die than accept help from 'their kind.'
Its a pretty powerful notion, and shows just how black her heart has become. While most would value life, and continue the feud at a later time; she was too prideful, too 'mad' to accept help, and under no circumstances would accept help from the very lioness that turned her pride against her.
I just kind of thought she swiped her paw away because she would rather die then have Kiara help her. Or she thought she could get out of the situation on her own.
it an interesting concept, die or be saved by the daughter of the one who is responsible for the death or her son and the one she loved, I think she just couldn't live with the shame
ohhh i have always wondered why she fell like that, cause if it was an accident she wouldn't have fell like she did in the movie, but this makes so much sense
I must admit, I'm glad this scene was cut. I've always loved Lion King 2, and this really creeps me out, the groaning as she slips and the "never".
I would like to see it, and Nuka's real last words scene, finished on the Blu-Ray release. So long as there's a version of the film without it on there as well.
When Zira's expression changes to one of peace when she sees the tumbling logs... I can't help but think she wanted the same death as Nuka to make it up to him.
it makes sense I suppose, she didnt want to be punished by Simba again, so she saw this as an opportunity to evade swift judgement and be reunited with Scar and Nuka
My opinion..... they left in the attempted suicide in the Incredibles in because the audience had no emotional connection with the guy. With this, even though Zira was evil, people grow attached to her
@starlaasmith Very good point. My friends mom allows her 6 year old to watch Grown Ups, Friday the 13th, among others. My ex-friends mom took her daughter to see the Hang Over 2 and she isn't even 13.
i can understand cutting this (that just gave me chills! imagine what it would do to a 6 year old), but i really wish they hadn't cut nuka's final words. T^T so damn sad.
Woah... That was kinda disturbing, even though I'm 14 xD. That smile and laugh at the end is going to haunt me in my nightmares D: But this scene is fantastc, I wish they left it in.
"oh, wait, we can't have suicide in this movie, the children will see it, and get the false impression that people commit suicide in real life, and we can't have that"--Disney
Damn I wished they'd left this in. I've always loved Zira, and what I like about this version is that she WON, even if it meant her death. So kickass.
This ending would have suited Zira far more than the movie's ending. In the movie it's like she's realizing her big mistakes in her last moment. But she's a fanatic, she wouldn't have regreted anything! I love and ACCEPT only this ending!
This just makes so much fucking more sense for her o_o Zira's such a fantasticly batshit crazy char, this is just perfect for her. Going to play this in my head whenever I watch the movie now.
Woah....I never knew about this deleted scene...The way she says "No...Neveerrr..." is SO creepy, but it does add to her character. I can understand them deleting it though in order to not scar (no pun intended) kids, but...at the same time...kids are eventually going to learn about suicide, considering it's prevelance...Granted, again, it may be best to keep it from them for as long as possible.
Personally, I think it's still implied that she was chosing to die over joining the Pridelanders even in the movie as it is. Either that or it's leaving it open for another sequal.
What I find interesting is that in the finished product, when Zira is falling, you can still see her smile, even though they dubbed her scream over that part.
Wow that would've given LK 2 a darker turn. But yeah, since it was a kid's movie, suicide wouln't be the most appropriate thing to add. I like this though, it shows more of a kind of darker manic side to Zira. =3
That's the idea I got too. I thought she refused help the first time, but then she realized that she would really die and actually tried scraping her way back up to get to Kiara... but fell anyway. e__e It made me feel sad for her.
The problem is, is that this is later Disney work. When Disney was actually working on things and around, the movies were masterpieces. Times change, though, and parent's become stupidly overprotective of their children and that's why things like these are cut out in the sequels. That's why I don't like new Disney and I like Pixar; Pixar tells it how it is.
This is such a great scene. And while I respect that they decided to cut it out because they didn't think suicide is good for a kids movie, I am left wondering why the attempted suicide in the Incredibles was left in. Sure the guy didn't succeed, but isn't that a bit of a double standard?
@NightsEclipse44 It's because Pixar is badass like that. :) And they don't talk down to their audience... I think that as disturbing as this scene is, Mufasa's death wasn't a walk in the park, either...
I think the idea of Zira committing suicide would have been a much more likely option to her death, and technically Disney was going to make it canon, but they figured suicide would be too dark for the film and they changed it.
Technically speaking, Zira did indeed commit suicide, but the film just cut out some scenes to make it look like she simply fell.
These scenes are really interesting, thanks for posting them!
Just shows the potential animation has. Granted, i wouldn't want my 5 year old watching things like this, because it's a concept young kids usually don't understand. But if this has been a movie not aimed at children they could have kept this in.
But I got an odd sense of Deja Vu watching this. I remember THIS being how Zira died, not the final way Disney chose. And I never watched behind-the-scene extras.
Seeing this and nuka's death scene really makes me wish Disney did some not-G-rated-for-5-year-old movies... the animation, voice, and impact of these 2 scenes are better than the entire rest of the movie to me, it's terrible that they had to take it out...
oh my gosh....she's smiling as she is going down is real freaky. But even though they cut this part out, you can still see she's smiling in the final version if you look closely
Well Zira commiting suicidewould explain why she didn't take kiara's hand Because if I know Zira if she knew she wouldn't make she would have pulled Kiara down with her. Then it would be cool if Simba saved her at the last minute but Zira fell
@Shaqstheman000 or i could explain suicide at an older age when i have kids, douchebag. i find it funny you look for comments to bitch about.(my comment is a row or two from this one.)
Suicide mingles with death, it may be a bit more serious but it's in the same category. Disney shows so much, but when it comes to suicide they suddenly back out.
Personally, I wish they would have kept this scene in the movie. It would have really made Zira's character pop out more then it already does.
Eh, Zira is bad, but I really like her more and more everytime, I`m impressed with her character in general, for a villain, she is great. A psycho mother, obsessed with Scar, ignores Nuka all the time, suicide and all...Her character is just, woah.
I see why she did it, dayum. Her husband is dead, her oldest son is dead, her youngest has been run off/overthrown...she's probably going to be torn apart by Pridelanders anyway so why not take the quicker route?
@clone273 It did happen in the original version... but she never says "No, never." Which I guess implies that she was willing to die. Not that it made much difference. She still refused the offer of help and died anyway.
I remember show this to my sister, and she asked "Why did they cut it?" I told the reason and she yelled "Are you kidding me? That wasnt correct! If you look at the news now, you see some teens commiting suicide for a thousand of reasons, and yet still noy showing THIS?"
@Fargosis16 There won't be a next 'Lion King' movie and there is no information source in your commeny. Apparently you have read too many fan fictions.
I love it!!! they should have released a special version with all of this and all the other scenes actually in it!!! I would sooo pay for it. I love the conflict and the drama!! Lion king FTW!
What's all the fuss? It's not that scary
MyDogDoesNotLie 10 hours ago
Late mate? Thought Zira was Scar's daughter, she looks a lot like him.
Velox415 5 days ago
I'd rather have my kid watch this than Hannah Montana.
deadpool93x 1 week ago 4
man. this was so creepy.
InuyashaBAAKA 1 week ago
ok ok time out, disney took this out because it was to dark for the kids, ok, so in the lion king mufasa death and scar getting eaten alive by hyenas weren't dark, and in hunch back of notre dame, frollo's song hellfire, and him falling into a firey pit weren't dark, seriously disney sequels aren't as graphic violent or dark as the first one but some are good like this movie even though it can't really compete with the first one
dragondudeification 1 week ago 2
Now I got nightmares... Zira scared me, realy and I'm 15!
PrimevalFave 2 weeks ago
My childhood is now in tatters... so why do I enjoy the concept more than the final version? There's something rather fitting about "Zira's Suicide" over "Zira's Death".
x1akurei 2 weeks ago 2
@x1akurei I personally always interpreted it as suicide, even when I was really young. Its still suicide in the regular movie when she refuses Kiara's help, that way is still suicide just more subtle.
bandie1909 2 weeks ago
Oh, bloody hell.... D: This version of Zira's death is absolutely chilling! :O Glad they cut the original end of this scene out--otherwise, I would have been scarred for life if I actually saw it... D-8
TheMouseAvenger 3 weeks ago
1. Trying to drag the person who was genuinely trying to help you down with you.
2. Laughing knowing that you're going to die.
3. Staring at the person right in the face refusing help and in the most darkest way, express that you'd rather choose death then to be helped by said person.
If this was in The Lion King 2, Zira would've been my 2nd all time fav villain. (next to Malificent) Not only that, it would've been the most epic Disney death.
comicshaun07 3 weeks ago 2
Hearing Zira's voice here gives me goose bumps..
MsJelay483 1 month ago
You know for Kids! :)
MRfirewolf5 1 month ago 2
I always wondered why she was smiling as she fell lol
comprimiser 1 month ago
aaawwwww man that woulda been so much cooler if they put that in! i can see why they didnt tho D:
kasumimoon1961 1 month ago
Ookkay...
I'm not going to sleep anytime soon. o3o
FwakuKuun 1 month ago
Is this from the US bonus DVD of the special edition? I've never seen this before - on the german DVD there is only less bonus material. What else is on the bonus DVD of the US edition? I'm thinking about importing it perhaps...
Ragehead100 1 month ago
This scene is flipping creepy!!! No wonder they didn't put it in!
ScaredProductions1 1 month ago
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that scene is so dark. thank goodness they didnt put that in the movie. im 15 and i think imma have nightmares -.-
SparksMega 2 months ago
I remember watching the DVD and something about Zira's death just didn't sit right. Why was she smiling when she fell? NOWWW I get it!!
mojododo85 2 months ago
actually she was also supposed to laugh as she fell
raptorhunter104 2 months ago
They really need to make a lion king 3/4 and explain what the fuck happened to kopa (simbas son) fair enough we have an "official" story made by fans but there really should b a film about it
Fadedinink 2 months ago
okay so what i don't understand is.. fair enough that this is very creepy but they put an almost suicide theme in the incredibles..soooo what difference does it make?
FallingvAwayvFromvMe 2 months ago
@FallingvAwayvFromvMe The Incredibles was Pixar, they don't tend to shy away from slightly edgier content.
SailorTaurus 2 months ago
@SailorTaurus still owned by the Disney company but yes I see where you're coming from (:
FallingvAwayvFromvMe 1 month ago
@FallingvAwayvFromvMe I dont remember that scene, mind refresh my memory please?
DRAGOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN 2 months ago
@DRAGOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN definitely not as creepy as this but it's right at the beginning when Mr Incredible is doing hero duties before his wedding and saves the citizen who throws himself off the building..then that's when the 'supers' get criticized because he never wanted to be saved.
FallingvAwayvFromvMe 1 month ago
@FallingvAwayvFromvMe Ah yes I remember now
god if I was Mr Incredible I surely grant his wish for what he did
DRAGOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN 1 month ago
@FallingvAwayvFromvMe Firstly, that's Pixar and this is Disney. Secondly, there's 6 years between them. Also where is there a almost suicide theme in the Incredibles
joevictor53 1 month ago
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@joevictor53 Pixar is still owned by the Disney company and they certainly wouldn't let anything jeopardize their reputation..and it's right at the beginning when Mr Incredible is doing hero duties before his wedding and saves the citizen who throws himself off the building..that's when the 'supers' get criticized because he never wanted to be saved.
FallingvAwayvFromvMe 1 month ago
"Não... Nunca!" haha eu aqui falando portugues rsrs
Rafaelatifa2565 2 months ago
I actually remember watching this scene in the original release
yetiboy713 2 months ago
@yetiboy713 I had the VHS tape, and I clearly remember this. Sadly, all the tapes got ruined one day after they got wet. I guess shit happens.
GreatUknown 1 month ago
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Executive meddling at its finest, folks.
ronthecyborg 2 months ago
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Maaaaan I just wish I see scar and zira together in the movie.i wonder what there romance be like
Lanative89 2 months ago
Maaaaan I just wish I see scar and zira together in the movie.i wonder what there romance be like
Lanative89 2 months ago
woa. o.o
sKRAPtheRIpPER 2 months ago
Zira pretty much died for nothing, i mean the hyenas were the true killers of scar i mean didn't she notice his carcass half eaten(if there was any left), and they didn't die they just ran away so she could of went after them, or teamed up with simba to get them or something, but then again disney villains aren't always the smartest, i just wish the hyenas were in this film, would of been more fun and entertaining
dragondudeification 3 months ago
Disney always keeps awesomeness to themselves.
TheBestKindOfFailure 3 months ago 4
That is fucking scary, excuse my language, but man I'm glad they cut that out in the actual movie, that would of scarred children for life.
invadermarkb 3 months ago
Also, the other ending is the kind of thing that would haunt Kiara. I hated that ending because Kiara could do nothing to help her, even if Zira changed her mind. I always thought the guilt Kiara would have from watching Zira die would be much like Simbas from the first movie. Since she couldn't win Zira over, or help her, she died. Instead of it being Zira's choice to die.
As a little kid I thought it was Kiara's fault Zira died.
SaberWingDragon 3 months ago
I like this ending better, it shows the true hatred of the pridelanders that Zira harbors. She would rather die than accept help from 'their kind.'
Its a pretty powerful notion, and shows just how black her heart has become. While most would value life, and continue the feud at a later time; she was too prideful, too 'mad' to accept help, and under no circumstances would accept help from the very lioness that turned her pride against her.
Much better than just 'oops, sorry, I slipped'.
SaberWingDragon 3 months ago 8
She thought she was gonna land in the wood...
hilfloram1 4 months ago
I KNEW IT!! this is why it looked like she was smiling when she died on the movie afterwards... AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED THIS? O>O
TheColdless 4 months ago 2
@TheColdless No I noticed that to but I figured my eyes were just seeing things or something. Cool I'm not the only one :)
Rainshadow9000 3 months ago
O.O damn nature, you scary!
TheEpona92 4 months ago
I just kind of thought she swiped her paw away because she would rather die then have Kiara help her. Or she thought she could get out of the situation on her own.
TouchMyPaopu 4 months ago
anyone noticed that they use the stampede music instead of zira's death music? i do
Sillypuppy99 4 months ago
I Think she let go because she wanted to Scar again
AleuisBlue 4 months ago
The way she says "Never" will give me nightmares. I'm almost 20.
megers67 4 months ago 40
Now i see why she killed herself. Not only that i bet she wanted to join Scar the badly in death.
thegr8estone 4 months ago
That awkward moment when Zira misses the log and falls into the water. :/
Marauders4EVR 5 months ago 6
yeah that would've messed up my childhood.
jaleesawa 5 months ago
0:32 that face makes me want to throw the computer and run.
hank9399 5 months ago 8
i like dark disney so much better, its more emotional
envysdaughter 5 months ago 4
Aw, finally found this, thank you so much. Dang, the emotional impact here is through the roof. Here's to hoping for an uncute version.
VoidedFilms 5 months ago
If I was Kiara, I'd probably have nightmares for the rest of my life.
ZeeDeeDee96 5 months ago 10
Wow Zira is hardcore! ride or die type cat lol
Natsukashii3 5 months ago 2
é uma cena interessante nao sei pq cortaram :( muita gente fica pensando que a Zira caiu sem querer
RAFINHA201078 5 months ago
it an interesting concept, die or be saved by the daughter of the one who is responsible for the death or her son and the one she loved, I think she just couldn't live with the shame
WoWaholic97 5 months ago
ohhh i have always wondered why she fell like that, cause if it was an accident she wouldn't have fell like she did in the movie, but this makes so much sense
ItsSoDomVoice 6 months ago
I must admit, I'm glad this scene was cut. I've always loved Lion King 2, and this really creeps me out, the groaning as she slips and the "never".
I would like to see it, and Nuka's real last words scene, finished on the Blu-Ray release. So long as there's a version of the film without it on there as well.
TikiTackPrincess 6 months ago
When Zira's expression changes to one of peace when she sees the tumbling logs... I can't help but think she wanted the same death as Nuka to make it up to him.
forevergamergirl 6 months ago 3
Ooook.... that totally scarred me for life :D
TheKirama203 6 months ago 37
it makes sense I suppose, she didnt want to be punished by Simba again, so she saw this as an opportunity to evade swift judgement and be reunited with Scar and Nuka
dragonOllie15 6 months ago
I wonder if these scenes will be in the Blu Ray release
CrimsonNineTail 6 months ago
I never knew Disney could be so dark!
RainpeltTCWarrior 6 months ago
this is both creepy and epic... i have goosebumps
FlyToRememberGrace97 6 months ago in playlist Rough Animation Sketeches
didnt know disney coud make such a terrific idea.
xxxCrystalxxPinkxx 6 months ago in playlist Rough Animation Sketeches
wow the dark side of lion king 2
xxxCrystalxxPinkxx 6 months ago in playlist Rough Animation Sketeches
I thought Scar was out of his mind, but Zira's just insane!
Joshuah128 6 months ago 9
@Joshuah128 She puts the madness into evil, this is just crazy =O
Marina88000 6 months ago
My opinion..... they left in the attempted suicide in the Incredibles in because the audience had no emotional connection with the guy. With this, even though Zira was evil, people grow attached to her
Otterwhisker1 6 months ago
I can see why this was cut, but in a way, it is no more disturbing than Mufasa is murderd, still, this is dark.
I have also seen comments saying there should be a lion king duluxe edition!
I totally agree!! Best move EVA! -3
spottyzebra2011 6 months ago
Zira. The most badass character in existence.
LeoieChan 7 months ago
nnnnnnnnnnnevvvveeerrrr...
Cajek2 7 months ago
wow i never knew zira would just kill herself like that
Mewtwofangirl 7 months ago
Wow. I got chills when she said never. Glad they cut that. LOL
lauraandjamesjo4 7 months ago
@lauraandjamesjo4 I wish they kept it....
starlaasmith 6 months ago
@starlaasmith Haha. It would have been okay for maybe...older kids? Not four or five year olds like my bro and cousins. :)
lauraandjamesjo4 6 months ago
@lauraandjamesjo4 BUT KIDS TODAY WATCH HORROR MOVIES!SO....YUPPERS.
starlaasmith 6 months ago
@starlaasmith Very good point. My friends mom allows her 6 year old to watch Grown Ups, Friday the 13th, among others. My ex-friends mom took her daughter to see the Hang Over 2 and she isn't even 13.
lauraandjamesjo4 6 months ago
@starlaasmith Exactly!So whenever Disney releases this again,I think they should do the uncut
starlaasmith 6 months ago
weird thing is I've always thought that it was indeed a suicide,i mean,she just let go anyway...
TehNemoz 7 months ago
i can understand cutting this (that just gave me chills! imagine what it would do to a 6 year old), but i really wish they hadn't cut nuka's final words. T^T so damn sad.
crazitaco 7 months ago
That was actually pretty creepy.....
Otterwhisker1 7 months ago
Woah... That was kinda disturbing, even though I'm 14 xD. That smile and laugh at the end is going to haunt me in my nightmares D: But this scene is fantastc, I wish they left it in.
Sparkycc123 8 months ago 6
"oh, wait, we can't have suicide in this movie, the children will see it, and get the false impression that people commit suicide in real life, and we can't have that"--Disney
DemonHunter7609 8 months ago 5
Damn I wished they'd left this in. I've always loved Zira, and what I like about this version is that she WON, even if it meant her death. So kickass.
999marwell999 8 months ago 6
suicide is bad but mufasa getting trampled is a-okay?
3fatkid 8 months ago
This ending would have suited Zira far more than the movie's ending. In the movie it's like she's realizing her big mistakes in her last moment. But she's a fanatic, she wouldn't have regreted anything! I love and ACCEPT only this ending!
Sullabib 8 months ago 5
This just makes so much fucking more sense for her o_o Zira's such a fantasticly batshit crazy char, this is just perfect for her. Going to play this in my head whenever I watch the movie now.
Velasa 9 months ago 4
I consider this the true ending lol.
Even when I was little I though it was strange how Zira reached out for Kiara when it was clear that she was the stubborn, hateful type. :/
NightGazeReborn 9 months ago
I laugh so hard...
I think it's good that they don't take this scene...a little bit to...crazy
xVayliex 9 months ago
wow..i think zira was a little too faithful to scar!
crimsonrose013 9 months ago
...Not to get off subject but isn't this music from the First Lion King? xD
lovepuppy513 9 months ago
@lovepuppy513 Yes it is the music from Mufasa's death scene =D
WinterWonder99 6 months ago
this one is better than what really happend
Sneezepaw 9 months ago
Woah....I never knew about this deleted scene...The way she says "No...Neveerrr..." is SO creepy, but it does add to her character. I can understand them deleting it though in order to not scar (no pun intended) kids, but...at the same time...kids are eventually going to learn about suicide, considering it's prevelance...Granted, again, it may be best to keep it from them for as long as possible.
VioletWhirlwind 10 months ago
@VioletWhirlwind Character limit didn't let me finish.
Personally, I think it's still implied that she was chosing to die over joining the Pridelanders even in the movie as it is. Either that or it's leaving it open for another sequal.
VioletWhirlwind 10 months ago
What I find interesting is that in the finished product, when Zira is falling, you can still see her smile, even though they dubbed her scream over that part.
Danthepest1 10 months ago
so she did it the hard way huh? harsh
MrMisterman1 10 months ago
So much better. But, I can see why they cut that out.
LongFingered 10 months ago
Wow that would've given LK 2 a darker turn. But yeah, since it was a kid's movie, suicide wouln't be the most appropriate thing to add. I like this though, it shows more of a kind of darker manic side to Zira. =3
SweetSuicune790 10 months ago
This should have been a finished alternate ending (Kind of like how "I Am Legend" did...) instead of just a deleted scene.
tisvana18 10 months ago
The movie would have been in theatres if this scene was included.
tranquelmischief 11 months ago
noooo
sophiesim14 11 months ago
I got more creeped out by the look in her eyes and the orchestration when she fell than anything
GORSKIED 11 months ago
i thout she just fell because she couldnt hold on.
Skunk90210 11 months ago
@Skunk90210
That's the idea I got too. I thought she refused help the first time, but then she realized that she would really die and actually tried scraping her way back up to get to Kiara... but fell anyway. e__e It made me feel sad for her.
Slipsnob 11 months ago
thats scary
Ruby142 1 year ago
if it was scar on zira place he would take her paw get out and push her of the cliff :] but zira if to blined with revange
roXy3tiger 1 year ago
Disney lessons 101: its okay to have a semi-rape sceen in Hunchback of Notre Dame, and the all most setting a human on fire part.
but its not okay to have suicide, much less a giant cat letting go off a clif. nope not at all.
CandyXdaXnekoX13 1 year ago 2
The problem is, is that this is later Disney work. When Disney was actually working on things and around, the movies were masterpieces. Times change, though, and parent's become stupidly overprotective of their children and that's why things like these are cut out in the sequels. That's why I don't like new Disney and I like Pixar; Pixar tells it how it is.
emlanczy 1 year ago
anyone even cared?
Maybe Zira wanted to die there cause Thats the place where Nuka Died and maybe the place where Scar Died!
XionVinco 1 year ago
This is such a great scene. And while I respect that they decided to cut it out because they didn't think suicide is good for a kids movie, I am left wondering why the attempted suicide in the Incredibles was left in. Sure the guy didn't succeed, but isn't that a bit of a double standard?
NightsEclipse44 1 year ago 70
@NightsEclipse44 It's because Pixar is badass like that. :) And they don't talk down to their audience... I think that as disturbing as this scene is, Mufasa's death wasn't a walk in the park, either...
idioticlisa 1 year ago 78
@NightsEclipse44 Murdering your brother, leaving a child an orphan, and attempting to murder him as well isn't good for a kids movie anyway.
Lion King did it anyway.
Lest we also go into the disturbing rape context of one of Disney's later films, Hunchback of Notre Dame.
RoyalGuard503 1 year ago
@NightsEclipse44 who committed suicide in the Incredibles
SidCalibur 10 months ago
@NightsEclipse44 Well, he got saved, and as a kid I didn't i=understand what was going on...I thought it was a stunt or something.
PyroGothNerd 5 months ago
This cutscene makes me love Zira even more. :)
job489 1 year ago
I think the idea of Zira committing suicide would have been a much more likely option to her death, and technically Disney was going to make it canon, but they figured suicide would be too dark for the film and they changed it.
Technically speaking, Zira did indeed commit suicide, but the film just cut out some scenes to make it look like she simply fell.
These scenes are really interesting, thanks for posting them!
FidoFangz 1 year ago
Clicked the link, saw the title, knew what was gonna happen, still shocked by how haunting this is.
Very well done scene, I'd say.
KeybladeXMage 1 year ago 4
Haha, even in sketchy, pencil form that is unbelievably creepy, more than I was expecting it to be. She sounds like Gollum.
ACompanyofSwans 1 year ago 6
@ACompanyofSwans lmao, I said the same exact thing in a comment a few years ago XD
Sallyallie89 1 year ago
@Sallyallie89 Haha, clearly great minds think alike :)
ACompanyofSwans 1 year ago
crazy bitch
Dragonlegend987 1 year ago
i like this ending now, but if I was a kid it probably would've creeped me out just a little bit.
cookiegurl777 1 year ago
Wow.. that.. puts a whole new spin on this...
lost2darkness 1 year ago
Just shows the potential animation has. Granted, i wouldn't want my 5 year old watching things like this, because it's a concept young kids usually don't understand. But if this has been a movie not aimed at children they could have kept this in.
mercyharding 1 year ago
I love Zira. I really do.
But I got an odd sense of Deja Vu watching this. I remember THIS being how Zira died, not the final way Disney chose. And I never watched behind-the-scene extras.
Azuragosa 1 year ago 3
I do not like it! Too scary!
Evaspie 1 year ago
@Evaspie You think this was scary? watch Watership down or even Felidae!
blackhole73 1 year ago
@blackhole73 oh gosh! Felidae D: uuuuuhhhhh most horrible thing i have ever seen! Plague Dogs is bad too.... that's why they aren't kid movies!
Evaspie 1 year ago
Seeing this and nuka's death scene really makes me wish Disney did some not-G-rated-for-5-year-old movies... the animation, voice, and impact of these 2 scenes are better than the entire rest of the movie to me, it's terrible that they had to take it out...
crazyrainee 1 year ago
oh my gosh....she's smiling as she is going down is real freaky. But even though they cut this part out, you can still see she's smiling in the final version if you look closely
fivefamly 1 year ago
holy crap. Well we all know Zira needed a one way ticket to the nut house any way....
fivefamly 1 year ago
Well Zira commiting suicidewould explain why she didn't take kiara's hand Because if I know Zira if she knew she wouldn't make she would have pulled Kiara down with her. Then it would be cool if Simba saved her at the last minute but Zira fell
simbaaddict 1 year ago
@Shaqstheman000 or i could explain suicide at an older age when i have kids, douchebag. i find it funny you look for comments to bitch about.(my comment is a row or two from this one.)
robertreturns 1 year ago
Suicide mingles with death, it may be a bit more serious but it's in the same category. Disney shows so much, but when it comes to suicide they suddenly back out.
Personally, I wish they would have kept this scene in the movie. It would have really made Zira's character pop out more then it already does.
Joyberries 1 year ago
Keeping this scene and Nuka's deleted death scene would've bumped this movie from a 6 to a 7.5 for me.
Shaqstheman000 1 year ago
DUUUUUUUUUUDE 8D why the heck dident they keep that?
sprnXtheTiger 1 year ago
Hmm... they should have kept it. I mean yes, suicide shouldn't be in a kids move, let alone a Disney one... But it's ten times better
XNewsiesX 1 year ago
I'm not suprised
simbaaddict 1 year ago
Eh, Zira is bad, but I really like her more and more everytime, I`m impressed with her character in general, for a villain, she is great. A psycho mother, obsessed with Scar, ignores Nuka all the time, suicide and all...Her character is just, woah.
TemMiku 1 year ago
Wow. D8
neofeliss 1 year ago
holy crap...that WAS scarey!!!!!!!
shakinbakecookies 1 year ago
this was scary o_O
finlant 1 year ago
The only difference is in the finished version Zira doesn't say anything. She still chooses death over joining the pridelanders.
bedazzledcandybar 1 year ago
@bedazzledcandybar
She fell. It made it seem like she was trying to get back up, but couldn't.
In this one she smiles, and clearly falls on her own will.
TheEscapedBalloon 1 year ago
Zira sounds like Gollum from Lord of the Rings when she says "Neeeeveerrrr..."
sjsaberfan 1 year ago
Wow, creepy.... O.O
I can see why they wanted to take this scene out for little kids xD
sjsaberfan 1 year ago
neeevvverrrr.
bamfhamster 1 year ago
freeking creepy!
KITTYclaws10 1 year ago
Zira has a creepy voice in de end D:
xIcePanther 1 year ago
There are rumors of a Lion King 4 involving Zira surviving the fall. Had they kept this line, there'd be no need for a possible Lion King 4.
phantomisle 1 year ago
I see why she did it, dayum. Her husband is dead, her oldest son is dead, her youngest has been run off/overthrown...she's probably going to be torn apart by Pridelanders anyway so why not take the quicker route?
PiecesofEternity 1 year ago 6
wow i never knew disney was a bit scared to put this in the movie XD she sounds like cuckey the weird live doll o.O when she jumps off
bigkingdomheartsfan2 1 year ago
It was cut?
I had the video long ago and this scene was there, in full colour and all that.
maybe it was only the uk version or something.
clone273 1 year ago
@clone273 It did happen in the original version... but she never says "No, never." Which I guess implies that she was willing to die. Not that it made much difference. She still refused the offer of help and died anyway.
IBiteThings 1 year ago
she looked so insane when she said never....
xXDarkness101Xx 1 year ago 5
I noticed when she fell she was smiling too 0-0 lazy disney XD
Opalca 1 year ago
I remember show this to my sister, and she asked "Why did they cut it?" I told the reason and she yelled "Are you kidding me? That wasnt correct! If you look at the news now, you see some teens commiting suicide for a thousand of reasons, and yet still noy showing THIS?"
o_O!
Uru19861 1 year ago
wow, this is very eerie. i had the chills!
impressive.
eleven1five 1 year ago
This one of my fav deleted scenes from TLK2, and I just realized the background music is from the first movie O_o
TheCamoWulf 1 year ago
NO U GOT IT ALL WRONG THIS VERTSION WASNT SUICIDE ZIRA WAS GOING TO SURVIVE FOR THE NEXT MOVIE
Fargosis16 1 year ago
@Fargosis16 There won't be a next 'Lion King' movie and there is no information source in your commeny. Apparently you have read too many fan fictions.
MistressX09 1 year ago
@MistressX09 yes there wont be one but when they created this scene they had the idea of a 3rd er 4th in mind
Fargosis16 1 year ago
@Fargosis16 Really? Could you send me a link where that is stated please?
MistressX09 1 year ago
@MistressX09 yep i remember seeing it somehere it will just take a few minutes
Fargosis16 1 year ago
I love it!!! they should have released a special version with all of this and all the other scenes actually in it!!! I would sooo pay for it. I love the conflict and the drama!! Lion king FTW!
ytfjordan 1 year ago
now i see why they cut it. it was just too horrific like the way she smiled and said "never"
Naruhinaluver15 1 year ago