FFVII - LLNMNI Challenge - Demon's Gate

[sharkmaster99]

FF4 Demon Wall was tougher... XD

[Warriorkiller666]

How do you get lvl2+ limits without leveling?

[Kainmaster]

@Warriorkiller666 He didn't; he fought Monodrives back in Midgar and gained a couple of levels that way. With 3 per battle, it took him 105 battles to finish obtaining all the limits he needed.

[ftw99rangestr]

wow your awesome :/

[Tyrai]

Hardest boss in the game... For me it was

[Darkmage1293]

@Tyrai I hated CARRY ARMOR more. This guy wasn't this bad on my first runthrough in ages; I just forgot to switch my party to the backrow. AFTER I did that, I shredded him.

Carry Armor is going to require some extra levels, to make sure I get my rounds in before he does.

[chaosxmk777777]

In a LL run, can't you only fight bosses?

[Uratnik]

7:15

He's signaling for the end folks xD

[applekidjosh]

because that would require using an item, of course!

[EvilShinGouki]

i know sadness makes ur limit fill slower, but what else does it do cuz in ur descrip it says having sadness helps or somethin

[GarlandTheGreat]

It reduces damage taken by 30%. In other words, VERY useful in a challenge like this.

[grimtimper]

what sword does cloud have on

[LionHeartGriever21]

Yoshiyuki.

[grimtimper]

thank you lionheart

[roxasfruit]

cool, with sadness i might actually be able to kill RAPPS WITHOUT using mindblow on him

[bongchoof]

Ugh I don't get how dice damage works... What gives the highest damage; 2 1s or 2 6s?

[bubba106]

It adds the two numbers together and does that amount of damage in hundreds, unless the two numbers are the same then it doubles.

E.g. 2+4=6 so 600, 3+3=6 but there's 2 threes so it's 1200 coz it's doubled.

I think that's right anyway, I never use em if i'm honest :P

[TheMoogleKing93]

6 + 6 even.

[TheMoogleKing93]

6 x 6 x 100 x 2 for a pair I think.

[TrujaSanguinaria]

2400 I bet

[Ech0Sh0t]

And btw Garland, What is the music from 00:00 to 00:43ish.

Is it Symphony X - Accolade I?

[GarlandTheGreat]

That is simply the intro to the song. The first Accolade is a different song (but similar in style) called The Accolade.

[Ech0Sh0t]

You have such epic music Garland in your videos.

[maslada]

Good bye Aerith :(

[Chamele7n]

Awesomeness.

[duckpoo123]

that is awesome! keep it up man, but 1 of ur characters will have to be over lvl 28 1 day :p coz of jenova synthesis, it shud giv u a choice whether u wnt the xp lol

[lolo262626]

First off Garland upped the level limit (which is usually 28 in LL) to 29 for this.

And second, it IS possible to receveive 0 EXP from Jenova*Sysnthesis, if you don't kill her before the countdown runs out, you won't get any EXP (you might get some if you killed the arms, but else you'll get 0 if she gets to cast Ultima).

[duckpoo123]

oooooooooooooooooh ok :) thanks

[Negima48]

Wow, once Aeris is gone, I dont know how your gonna do it

[Kainmaster]

Yuffie will be his sole way of healing (Clear Tranquil) but he'll lose the ability to revive characters unless he goes to an Inn.

[Negima48]

Yeah, its gonna be alot tougher here on out

[Kainmaster]

Agreed.

Clear Tranquil only heals 50% of your max HP and don't ressurect so it'll be a pain for him to heal. He can use accessories and armors to absorb/half/nullify some attacks from bosses but not many.

[Negima48]

Yeah thats true, He'll have to get real lucky in most of the upcoming battles, Especially the final one lol, Im lookin forward to that

[Kainmaster]

Yeah, same here.

[Negima48]

You ever beaten any challenges in this game?

[Kainmaster]

Cloud Solo

Cloud & Tifa only

No Items

No Materia

I think I also did a Magic Only challange but I forgot.

[Negima48]

Ah, sweet, I did No materia and LL challenge before, Im currently trying to figure out others I can cry

[Negima48]

try*

[Kainmaster]

I'm not really into LL challanges (I like watching them, I just suck at doing them XD)

Eh, I suggest NOT trying a No Items challange 'cause it's near impossible as you'll only be able to heal with Magic and at Inns (which makes Restore an obvious Materia to bring all the time).

By the end of my NI challange, I had those Materias masterd:

Restorex3

Allx3 (for Restore)

HP+x8

MP+x8

Fire, Ice and Lightning x2

Steal x1

I think I also had 1x ChocoMog masterd.

[Negima48]

lol Ill remember that If I try a NI challenge XD

[Kainmaster]

Yeah, it might be usefull XD Otherwise, you'll have to send a PM/leave a comment asking and see if I remember... XD

[Negima48]

lol XD I will if I forget :P

[Kainmaster]

Lmao XD

[GarlandTheGreat]

Actually, NI challenges are usually easier than NM challenges. Mostly because of the Enemy Skill Materia and the fact that you can use HP Plus.

[Negima48]

Really? So should I even try NI if I already did NM?

[GarlandTheGreat]

Just NI can hardly be considered a challenge. If you add LL, you get a pretty good one. Or if you're badass, you could do LLNIIENA. It's easier than LLNMIENA overall, but it has some of the worst Demon's Gate and Hojo battles you can imagine.

[DeathFlea]

What does LLNIENA and LLNMIENA stands for?

[dpc4891]

LL = Low Level

NI = No Items

NM = No Materia

IE = Initial Equipment

NA = No Accessories

[TMM098]

LL-low level

NM-no materia

NI-no items

IE-inital equipment

NA-no accessories

[Negima48]

Hmm Sounds pretty challenging, And I love a challenge, Ill try those challenges out after I complete the LL one Im currently on

[CaRC1n0g3n]

I wish I was badass enough to do LLNIIENA. =[

[stemc1000]

Amazing fight as usual, Demon' gate is always the benchmark of a VII challenge; usually if you can beat this guy, the others arn't too tough after. (notable exception being Carry Armor of course...)

Anyway, loving the vids showing this nigh-impossible task can actually be achieved! Impressive as always.

Just out of curiosity in fact, how WILL you deal with Carry Armor?

[lolo262626]

The Carry Armor battle has to be the most spectacular in the entire challenge; I do remember the strategy he used the first time he did this challenge, but I still really want to see it ^^

One thing is certain, it will be a very hard battle :P

[ryancouture]

lol IMO this is your best vid yet

the way the music faded out the whole thing was perfectly executed

[ryancouture]

garland what is the toughest FF7 challenge you know of?

is this it?

or is a no armor no weapon type harder

[werboweckjybahamut]

Initial weapon and no armour is not really a challenge as you can use coin and items...

[GarlandTheGreat]

It's really hard to define how tough a challenge is. Some challenges have really tough battles, but don't really require much planning. In other words, you can just play up to the next boss and figure out what to do when you get there.

Challenges like this one don't have that many difficult battles, but it requires much more planning. If you just play up to the next boss and try figuring out what to do when you get there, you won't even get out of Midgar in this one.