@Dawitness11 Yeah you and hundreds of others have made that claim. Where is your buddy. There are supposed to be two of you. I do not think the two are going to be any Old Testament figures from the past as commonly understood, they will be two people with the humility to let their lives speak for themselves. They will not be spouting off who they are until their lives speak and they won't have to..I hope you are joking and if not go talk to some walls Boasting is not very convincing.
@alternaterealities7 And I'm sure there has old man. But I have no staff or bread and not white as shown in hollywood. I just told you plainly and I told it to the whole church. Oh yea, says who about you claims of "they will not be etc"? you think I was boasting when I told you who I am? how is that?
@Dawitness11 LOL! If I have to explain it to you, you have already made my point.
We are called to have discernment and to be fruit inspectors and you are certainly speaking for yourself and staking your claim by attitude and speech to anyone with discernment.
@alternaterealities7 I am glad that u laughed because that was the point of my first and second sentence . And I hope that u did use discernment from the beginning of are convo.Because if you did you should have said I will test the spirit of this man. Not pre-judged and said within you heart "he is crazy". I see that you have made a video about the two, will here I am but you do not see it, so then it is God who doesn't want you to know. Continue to walk the walk this testimony is not for u.
@Dawitness11 The test was made when you called me "old man". Name calling is hardly good fruit to someone of a caliber you claim to be. Your immaturity to make a claim unsupported is nothing more than boasting. You can't even address what I did say about humility because you are the one that does not get it. You are right your message is not for me or anyone that follows Jesus. I hope you get your head and heart right before God and get out of this delusion you are in.
I remember watching this video last year just before July 4th. As much as I wanted to see this happen I figured it wouldn't. You just can't put a positive time on it.
I'm premillennial and I'm listening every second for the rapture. We are so close I can almost taste it, but you just cant set a date. If not today, maybe tomorrow?
@spraypainter1 This was done by a good friend of mine and tho he was wrong about this he has much to offer that isn't wrong. I leave this posted as subtle warning to others of this kind of folly in dating. Although the next thing i am waiting for is not any rapture. i am afraid you should remain open that you might be around for much more than you have been taught. I prefer the pan rapture theory. It will all pan out in the end. LOL Seriously though I lean toward the pre-wrath rapture. :o)
@yourmamac I believe that Rev 9 mentions them as part of the end time problem but not the most singular problem as this involves two other problem children also as the three frogs. Look at that series posted on my site also and the Locust invasion series. I remain flexible for anything that hasn't happened yet and do not get too dogmatic about specifics. That was the mistake the jews made in not understanding Jesus. Preconceived dogmas on prophecy can do the same for us if we aren't flexible.
Don"t Give up you just missed the part where Christ shortened the end time days to 5 Months or " Even The Very Elect Would Be Decieved ". In otherwords the 1260 days have been shortened to 5 Months. I think its Rev. chpt 9. Let me know if that helps or not. Thanks
@DonaldPrindle This video is not of my making but a friend and Author of Temple at the center of time by Dave Flynn. He has the Watcher web site and you can pass that on to him. Yes 5 months is mentioned in Revelation 9 about the Locust Invasion they will "sting" men without the seal of God for 5 months. This is the lifespan of the most destructive type of real locust also. Thank You
The Constellation Gemini probably has nothing to do with the two witnesses which the Bible never said are related to each other in any way. They are able to command the weather or preform other miracles just like the prophets of old. In a New Testament sense, they are doing this under the direction of God's Holy Spirit. Even today believers can and do perform miracles. Not like the phony TV evangelists but real miracles. To the shame of the Church, this should be a normal practice
but if the two twins r the gemini twins how r they killed and brought back by GOD and how do they have the power to shut the heavens and cause a drought? just askin.
JoshuaH688. I served in the US Army in 1969-70 defending this country. I have seen the price of freedom even in a bad political war. The rebukes coming home is a lasting disappointing experience. The last thing this old Patriotic veteran needs to hear is the ranting of some kid telling me I don't know what a real patriot is. Until you have actually paid a personal price yourself you need to shut up and learn from those who have and show some respect.
I drove 200+ miles that day in my pickup truck waving an American flag out of the back. My message then, and my message now is... LIBERTY SHALL NOT PERISH FROM THE EARTH! Real patriots and heroes have no time for silly predictions about the future. We must live honorably and build with the little time given a monument that will outlast our lives. I have a prophecy for you: We are all going to die. Think about it. It is true and we all know it, but some of us don't realize it.
Funny I have a hard time taking anyone serious that addresses me as Dude. As a professional that has to work and deal with the real world of proper protocol, it sounds like a burn out trying to address something seriously out of his element. But you are right I should take this off the post. It was my friends and I warned him not to play the dating game. He has a book also The Temple at the edge of Time. It is about 2012. Another probable non event.
No argument here , I totally agree with you. We will all be here for the unveiling and much more that others think we should be poofed out beforehand. Pre-wrath is what I see the scriptures telling us.
Science is obviously your Religion because it takes more faith to believe in evolution than it does God, I realize that much of this is all a matter of perception. God has a sense of humor when he created the Eugelena both a plant and an animal. Tell me how it evolved? Much of modern science is assumed and based on circular reasoning but presented as fact. The vested interest of Academics has caused them to cover theirs when threatened by the truths that could jeopardize their jobs
Ah, Jim, I apprieciate your candid approach to your truths of the spirit but carefull. Sit back for a sec. let him do what he does. My Prayer- You find the truth on all subject maters concerning prophecy. "Except for the elect we all fall"
Well you are right I didn't notice anyone come on the scene???
That is why I always take a wait and see attitude on prophetic events, especiallt when someone puts specific dates to them. Perhaps there may be a non descript back peddeling explaination but I do feel bad for Dave Flynn on this one.
I believe that these 2 witness will be Enoch and Elijah. I think they are the only 2 prophets not killed. Plus I think Enoch also because he was the original prophet who actually dealt with the watchers when they did this stuff before the great flood. I think the watchers may take great satisfaction in killing him at least. Elijah i think is important be cause he was the prophet during the most intense apostate period of Gods people. Just my thoughts Thans as always rev.
i agree with you as well.. the bible says that its appointed for a man to die once. and there is only two men that has not tasted of death. but in the book of rev. it tell of the two witnesses who are two lamp stands before god. and they come to give thier testimony. enoch and elijah. enoch is from the first generation, or the old world, and elijah is from this generation. or this present world.
The sack cloth and ashes is a symbolic representation of someone who comes fasting and prayer. I am not sure about any dating but again I do respect the work of Dave Flynn. I wonder if these dates are not for the false ones as they are derivived from gnostic litrature and not directly from the scriptures themselves. This is what i am thinking.
Your right about the two witnesses being here, I'm not sure about the July the 4. We must be here frist because after the world rejects are messege the tables are set an the mark of the beast can be proclaimed. You must understand that God allows the beast to rule and that God is also political in a heavenly sense. We are here and we have flesh and blood just like everyone else and eat drink go umber 1 & 2. Why do we where SACKCLOATH?
keep in mind the mayan calender thing is un-biblical, it has no backing to it. As far as the amount of days, anyone can come up with a date and add the days to it and come up with another date.
I am not saying all this to tick anyone off, I say this cause the Bible says no man knows the time or day, and the fact the mayan calender is here-say.
I do believe when Jesus said no one knew but the Father, He was speaking from his earthly perspective. Most certainly after the death and resurrection, he had full knowledge. You will note also Jesus warned to unbelievers he would come as a theif in the night. Paul addressing believers said that these days should not come upon you unaware. So there must be a balance in all of this. I do want to shy away from specific dateing, in thirty years I have seen too many get burnt by good intentions.
Excellent point regarding... "I do believe when Jesus said no one knew but the Father, He was speaking from his earthly perspective. Most certainly after the death and resurrection, he had full knowledge."
There are many many people who all have different interpreations about the end times and they all believe they are right. Clearly it's impossible for them all to be right and it may very well be that none of them are. The Word says clearly that no man or angel knows when Jesus will return, even Jesus Himself does not know, but the Father does know. Mark 13:32 So if anyone says they do know, they are against scripture.
To JesusIsGod191, "If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee." Rev. 3:3
So watch and learn and stop claiming to know that the hour is unknowable.
@Paracelsus2012 Yet the hour is unknowable, Jesus himself said as much, Mt24:36 "Concerning that day and hour NOBODY knows, niether the angels of the heavens nor the son, ONLY the father knows."
Stop claiming to know the hour has ever been KNOWABLE because according to gods word it CLEARLY is not known to man or angel or Jesus.
@Paracelsus2012@Paracelsus2012 Yet the hour is unknowable, Jesus himself said as much, Mt24:36 "Concerning that day and hour NOBODY knows, niether the angels of the heavens nor the son, ONLY the father knows."
Stop claiming to know the hour has ever been KNOWABLE because according to gods word it CLEARLY is not known to man or angel or Jesus.
@OddeyeDL If you look at the other comments i totally agree with you. This video was made by a friend of mine Dave Flynn author of Cydonia the Secret Chronicles of Mars and Temple at the Center of Time. I kept the posting up because even though he was wrong, it does not negate the rest of his ministry and good research. But this does make for a good lesson in NOT dating or trying to date certain things like the rapture..
@Paracelsus2012 It is unknowable and will always be unknowable, we watch to see the storm clouds on the horizon. We watch when the storm is right over us, we can't predict when/where a tornado will touch down, but we can know it is eminent, date setters don't realize that's what scripture is telling us. I would concede if scripture didn't tell us over and over again we can't know and to be wary of date setters. You can't ignore those passages!
alternaterealities7 , hi , i really want to thank u from the bottom of my heart for all ur research and info from a christain point of view. Really thanks alot, hope to see more videos from u ; ) God bless u
I posted this from Dave because I believe in him as a fellow Christian, I know his heart and good intensions, I trust his standing with the Lord. I admitt I am not sure about the setting of dates and some of the eschatology I differ on, but it is worth presenting to all of you for your own prayerful consideration.
I like Dave, but I REALLY hope he's wrong. Even though I believe in a pre-Trib rapture, so many people are going to get hurt I'd rather the Tribulation happen many years away than he's predicting.
I AM THE WITNESS!
Dawitness11 1 year ago
@Dawitness11 Yeah you and hundreds of others have made that claim. Where is your buddy. There are supposed to be two of you. I do not think the two are going to be any Old Testament figures from the past as commonly understood, they will be two people with the humility to let their lives speak for themselves. They will not be spouting off who they are until their lives speak and they won't have to..I hope you are joking and if not go talk to some walls Boasting is not very convincing.
alternaterealities7 1 year ago
@alternaterealities7 And I'm sure there has old man. But I have no staff or bread and not white as shown in hollywood. I just told you plainly and I told it to the whole church. Oh yea, says who about you claims of "they will not be etc"? you think I was boasting when I told you who I am? how is that?
Dawitness11 1 year ago
@Dawitness11 LOL! If I have to explain it to you, you have already made my point.
We are called to have discernment and to be fruit inspectors and you are certainly speaking for yourself and staking your claim by attitude and speech to anyone with discernment.
alternaterealities7 1 year ago
@alternaterealities7 I am glad that u laughed because that was the point of my first and second sentence . And I hope that u did use discernment from the beginning of are convo.Because if you did you should have said I will test the spirit of this man. Not pre-judged and said within you heart "he is crazy". I see that you have made a video about the two, will here I am but you do not see it, so then it is God who doesn't want you to know. Continue to walk the walk this testimony is not for u.
Dawitness11 1 year ago
@Dawitness11 The test was made when you called me "old man". Name calling is hardly good fruit to someone of a caliber you claim to be. Your immaturity to make a claim unsupported is nothing more than boasting. You can't even address what I did say about humility because you are the one that does not get it. You are right your message is not for me or anyone that follows Jesus. I hope you get your head and heart right before God and get out of this delusion you are in.
alternaterealities7 1 year ago
I remember watching this video last year just before July 4th. As much as I wanted to see this happen I figured it wouldn't. You just can't put a positive time on it.
I'm premillennial and I'm listening every second for the rapture. We are so close I can almost taste it, but you just cant set a date. If not today, maybe tomorrow?
spraypainter1 1 year ago
@spraypainter1 This was done by a good friend of mine and tho he was wrong about this he has much to offer that isn't wrong. I leave this posted as subtle warning to others of this kind of folly in dating. Although the next thing i am waiting for is not any rapture. i am afraid you should remain open that you might be around for much more than you have been taught. I prefer the pan rapture theory. It will all pan out in the end. LOL Seriously though I lean toward the pre-wrath rapture. :o)
alternaterealities7 1 year ago
Revalation 9 is about the muslims, look up 7Rojah7 for a more detailed explination
yourmamac 1 year ago
@yourmamac I believe that Rev 9 mentions them as part of the end time problem but not the most singular problem as this involves two other problem children also as the three frogs. Look at that series posted on my site also and the Locust invasion series. I remain flexible for anything that hasn't happened yet and do not get too dogmatic about specifics. That was the mistake the jews made in not understanding Jesus. Preconceived dogmas on prophecy can do the same for us if we aren't flexible.
alternaterealities7 1 year ago
Don"t Give up you just missed the part where Christ shortened the end time days to 5 Months or " Even The Very Elect Would Be Decieved ". In otherwords the 1260 days have been shortened to 5 Months. I think its Rev. chpt 9. Let me know if that helps or not. Thanks
DonaldPrindle 1 year ago
@DonaldPrindle This video is not of my making but a friend and Author of Temple at the center of time by Dave Flynn. He has the Watcher web site and you can pass that on to him. Yes 5 months is mentioned in Revelation 9 about the Locust Invasion they will "sting" men without the seal of God for 5 months. This is the lifespan of the most destructive type of real locust also. Thank You
alternaterealities7 1 year ago
siksky1
The Constellation Gemini probably has nothing to do with the two witnesses which the Bible never said are related to each other in any way. They are able to command the weather or preform other miracles just like the prophets of old. In a New Testament sense, they are doing this under the direction of God's Holy Spirit. Even today believers can and do perform miracles. Not like the phony TV evangelists but real miracles. To the shame of the Church, this should be a normal practice
alternaterealities7 1 year ago
Check out my video summarizing the amazing book Temple at the Center of Time.
watch?v=yvGJnZZjxKo
patriotsundergod 2 years ago
but if the two twins r the gemini twins how r they killed and brought back by GOD and how do they have the power to shut the heavens and cause a drought? just askin.
siksky1 2 years ago
tabernacleofjason ,
Very well done very thought provoking. I suggest everyone here check it out too!
alternaterealities7 2 years ago
you guys might be interested in the video on my channel - check it out. cheers, jason
tabernacleofjason 2 years ago
JoshuaH688. I served in the US Army in 1969-70 defending this country. I have seen the price of freedom even in a bad political war. The rebukes coming home is a lasting disappointing experience. The last thing this old Patriotic veteran needs to hear is the ranting of some kid telling me I don't know what a real patriot is. Until you have actually paid a personal price yourself you need to shut up and learn from those who have and show some respect.
alternaterealities7 2 years ago
I drove 200+ miles that day in my pickup truck waving an American flag out of the back. My message then, and my message now is... LIBERTY SHALL NOT PERISH FROM THE EARTH! Real patriots and heroes have no time for silly predictions about the future. We must live honorably and build with the little time given a monument that will outlast our lives. I have a prophecy for you: We are all going to die. Think about it. It is true and we all know it, but some of us don't realize it.
JoshuaH688 2 years ago
Vortexghost
Funny I have a hard time taking anyone serious that addresses me as Dude. As a professional that has to work and deal with the real world of proper protocol, it sounds like a burn out trying to address something seriously out of his element. But you are right I should take this off the post. It was my friends and I warned him not to play the dating game. He has a book also The Temple at the edge of Time. It is about 2012. Another probable non event.
alternaterealities7 2 years ago
uh dude............ cancel this lame idea the dates Nov.21,2009...... I think they would of made CNN by now...
Vortexghost 2 years ago
Colwell30 ,
No argument here , I totally agree with you. We will all be here for the unveiling and much more that others think we should be poofed out beforehand. Pre-wrath is what I see the scriptures telling us.
alternaterealities7 2 years ago
OMGimRev,
Science is obviously your Religion because it takes more faith to believe in evolution than it does God, I realize that much of this is all a matter of perception. God has a sense of humor when he created the Eugelena both a plant and an animal. Tell me how it evolved? Much of modern science is assumed and based on circular reasoning but presented as fact. The vested interest of Academics has caused them to cover theirs when threatened by the truths that could jeopardize their jobs
alternaterealities7 2 years ago
Ah, Jim, I apprieciate your candid approach to your truths of the spirit but carefull. Sit back for a sec. let him do what he does. My Prayer- You find the truth on all subject maters concerning prophecy. "Except for the elect we all fall"
krib15king 2 years ago
HEY, the bible said adam and eve made people.
Because, Evolution is wrong, right?
And none of this has Happend...?
OMGimReV 2 years ago
Marsxpander,
Well you are right I didn't notice anyone come on the scene???
That is why I always take a wait and see attitude on prophetic events, especiallt when someone puts specific dates to them. Perhaps there may be a non descript back peddeling explaination but I do feel bad for Dave Flynn on this one.
alternaterealities7 2 years ago
The Anti-Christ shows up first.Everybody will be here.The Good,The Bad.We will see these things happen.
Colwell30 2 years ago
Well, today is the 15th of july. Guess they didn't show up.
marsxpander 2 years ago
I believe that these 2 witness will be Enoch and Elijah. I think they are the only 2 prophets not killed. Plus I think Enoch also because he was the original prophet who actually dealt with the watchers when they did this stuff before the great flood. I think the watchers may take great satisfaction in killing him at least. Elijah i think is important be cause he was the prophet during the most intense apostate period of Gods people. Just my thoughts Thans as always rev.
behathorn 2 years ago 4
i agree with you as well.. the bible says that its appointed for a man to die once. and there is only two men that has not tasted of death. but in the book of rev. it tell of the two witnesses who are two lamp stands before god. and they come to give thier testimony. enoch and elijah. enoch is from the first generation, or the old world, and elijah is from this generation. or this present world.
rodawnwaun 2 years ago
@behathorn Very good thoughts indeed. The bible says there will be a great falling away so its another apostate time for Elijah.
ThePersecuted1 7 months ago
Dawitness11,
The sack cloth and ashes is a symbolic representation of someone who comes fasting and prayer. I am not sure about any dating but again I do respect the work of Dave Flynn. I wonder if these dates are not for the false ones as they are derivived from gnostic litrature and not directly from the scriptures themselves. This is what i am thinking.
alternaterealities7 2 years ago
Your right about the two witnesses being here, I'm not sure about the July the 4. We must be here frist because after the world rejects are messege the tables are set an the mark of the beast can be proclaimed. You must understand that God allows the beast to rule and that God is also political in a heavenly sense. We are here and we have flesh and blood just like everyone else and eat drink go umber 1 & 2. Why do we where SACKCLOATH?
Dawitness11 2 years ago
keep in mind the mayan calender thing is un-biblical, it has no backing to it. As far as the amount of days, anyone can come up with a date and add the days to it and come up with another date.
I am not saying all this to tick anyone off, I say this cause the Bible says no man knows the time or day, and the fact the mayan calender is here-say.
klegster 2 years ago
From What Prophecy Says I To Believe It Will Be This Year !
MARANATHA, LORD, MARANATHA !
IN JESUS NAME.......AMEN !
Eyosef 3 years ago
I do believe when Jesus said no one knew but the Father, He was speaking from his earthly perspective. Most certainly after the death and resurrection, he had full knowledge. You will note also Jesus warned to unbelievers he would come as a theif in the night. Paul addressing believers said that these days should not come upon you unaware. So there must be a balance in all of this. I do want to shy away from specific dateing, in thirty years I have seen too many get burnt by good intentions.
alternaterealities7 3 years ago
Excellent point regarding... "I do believe when Jesus said no one knew but the Father, He was speaking from his earthly perspective. Most certainly after the death and resurrection, he had full knowledge."
ArmageddonThruToYou 2 years ago
There are many many people who all have different interpreations about the end times and they all believe they are right. Clearly it's impossible for them all to be right and it may very well be that none of them are. The Word says clearly that no man or angel knows when Jesus will return, even Jesus Himself does not know, but the Father does know. Mark 13:32 So if anyone says they do know, they are against scripture.
JesusIsGod191 3 years ago
To JesusIsGod191, "If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee." Rev. 3:3
So watch and learn and stop claiming to know that the hour is unknowable.
Paracelsus2012 3 years ago 2
@Paracelsus2012 Yet the hour is unknowable, Jesus himself said as much, Mt24:36 "Concerning that day and hour NOBODY knows, niether the angels of the heavens nor the son, ONLY the father knows."
Stop claiming to know the hour has ever been KNOWABLE because according to gods word it CLEARLY is not known to man or angel or Jesus.
OddeyeDL 1 year ago
@Paracelsus2012 @Paracelsus2012 Yet the hour is unknowable, Jesus himself said as much, Mt24:36 "Concerning that day and hour NOBODY knows, niether the angels of the heavens nor the son, ONLY the father knows."
Stop claiming to know the hour has ever been KNOWABLE because according to gods word it CLEARLY is not known to man or angel or Jesus.
OddeyeDL 1 year ago
@OddeyeDL If you look at the other comments i totally agree with you. This video was made by a friend of mine Dave Flynn author of Cydonia the Secret Chronicles of Mars and Temple at the Center of Time. I kept the posting up because even though he was wrong, it does not negate the rest of his ministry and good research. But this does make for a good lesson in NOT dating or trying to date certain things like the rapture..
alternaterealities7 1 year ago
@Paracelsus2012 It is unknowable and will always be unknowable, we watch to see the storm clouds on the horizon. We watch when the storm is right over us, we can't predict when/where a tornado will touch down, but we can know it is eminent, date setters don't realize that's what scripture is telling us. I would concede if scripture didn't tell us over and over again we can't know and to be wary of date setters. You can't ignore those passages!
gammafreak 10 months ago
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alternaterealities7 , hi , i really want to thank u from the bottom of my heart for all ur research and info from a christain point of view. Really thanks alot, hope to see more videos from u ; ) God bless u
fuelmyflame 3 years ago
I posted this from Dave because I believe in him as a fellow Christian, I know his heart and good intensions, I trust his standing with the Lord. I admitt I am not sure about the setting of dates and some of the eschatology I differ on, but it is worth presenting to all of you for your own prayerful consideration.
alternaterealities7 3 years ago
interesting
jburkhammer 3 years ago
nice video
ABOSOLUTEKNOWLEDGE 3 years ago
I like Dave, but I REALLY hope he's wrong. Even though I believe in a pre-Trib rapture, so many people are going to get hurt I'd rather the Tribulation happen many years away than he's predicting.
OmegaIsNear 3 years ago