How to paint clouds the wet on wet way

[scatsmfc1]

the wet on wet and wet in wet confusion comes from the search engine youtube uses ( searchs for videos containing the wrd wet ) not the artist,give the man a break ! he's sharing his info and knowledge with you FFS

[scatsmfc1]

excellent and informative video for a newbie like myself,keep 'em coming

[TruthSeekingElf]

STUNNING! Thank you for all your effort and your generosity for sharing.

[timothy790110]

All you watercolourists whining about the description, its clear, he wrote wet ON wet, a term perfectly suited to describe oil/acrylic painting. Wet IN wet describes watercolours. Get back to painting and stop worrying so much about nomenclature., especially since you are erroneous.

[ots1967]

I agree with the wet on wet description for watercolor. I am a watercolorist and found this video looking for wet on wet technics. If you are an oil medium artist you have to keep with the oil technic. Oil pigments keep wet for a long time depending on the medium you use.

[SympliG0th]

The Wet on Wet method is a term used for watercolor and you're not using watercolors. This is very confusing for a new artist!

[PandawdyBob]

@SympliG0th "wet on wet" just means putting wet on top of wet paint, not allowing time for layers to dry. It can also be done with acrylics.

[lilywondertwin]

@SympliG0th he is not painting on watercolor paper that is your first clue

[grpjlj2009]

love the music behind atleast from here it sounds inspiring. u have a nice way of making it look real....is that santana? wow i love your clouds your sky is amazing their dude...

[boss102657]

Thanks. And no I didn't think it was water color. LOL I like your style.

[pegcage]

I suggest you identify this as oil. I think a lot of people (new watercolorists) may get the mistaken idea that in watercolors you can paint this way. Actually, you would have to use gesso or acrylic white on a blue sky in watercolor using this technique. This particularly technique good though for oils or acrylics.

[PandawdyBob]

I think Frank Clarke uses a white gouche to paint on top of other colors. It seems to work pretty well.

[disneyprincess1994]

What brush are you using at 2:20? I didn't quite catch it. Is it cheaper than Bob Ross' blender brush? Where did you find yours?

[PandawdyBob]

It's an Alexander 1 inch foliage brush. It's not cheaper than Ross brushes. About the same price. But it is a higher quality bristle.

[hanoitwin]

thank's:) also dig the song.

[silentbutterflii]

waw thats amazing

[robertsloan2]

Only one nitpick about this -- you're showing how to do clouds in oils with Bill Alexander's Magic Clear rather than how to do watercolor clouds.

[PandawdyBob]

I really don't do any work with watercolors.

[alexevanslver1123]

could this be done on a wall with the same outcome? lol

[PandawdyBob]

I suppose so. I think you'd still need to prep with gesso then apply the oil on top of it. It might act a little funny with the oil... a preped wall might not soak up the oil nearly as fast as canvas.

[alexevanslver1123]

where would i get gesso and oil from? any specific place you go to?

[PandawdyBob]

Try hobby lobby or michaels. When I said oil, i really meant a clear painting medium, such as Alexander Magic Clear (available from me) or an oil such as walnut oil. I'm sure there are other clear mediums that will be available at hobby lobby or michaels.

[Ambidextrous224]

What was the name of the brush you used so that you couldn't see the brush strokes?

[PandawdyBob]

It was a 1 inch foliage brush from Alexander Art.

[kdubya05]

I noticed that you use the filbert. Most use a Fan. For what reasons do you use the filbert over the fan?

[PandawdyBob]

I prefer the filbert over the fan brush because the filbert can be used for more rough work like scrubbing without fraying the bristles. Also, I have a little bit better control with the filbert. The filbert is a great brush for general use.

[imatube2]

I gave a little chuckle when the Gilmour came on. Good music to paint to, I must admit.

[hooboo77]

Yeah so did I haha

[54spiritedwill54]

Nice work, this is a great demonstration

[laxmivanitha]

Thanks...I learnt alot...I would like to oil paint on wood...I usually apply 3 coats of gesso...so would a thin layer of linseed oil help.

Thanks

[rodneykingstrikesbck]

I see you are having a conversation about linseed oil and Magic White below. I see in the video you explained that you used "Magic Clear." Which did you use? And are you saying that you coated the entire blank canvass with one or both of these and/or did you coat the blue with these?

Thanks.

[PandawdyBob]

You can use either one. Whichever one you use, it is applied to the canvas first, then the blue sky is painted.

Because the blue is transparent, you don't have opaque colors competing against each other. Titanium White is the most opaque, and will drown out the transparent blue.

[rodneykingstrikesbck]

Great, thanks. Beautiful painting by the way. Where do you sell and how can I check out your stuff?

[PandawdyBob]

Sell my paintings or instructional aids? check out my website (link is at the top right). Also have a gallery there. You see any paintings you like, msg me. More affordable than you think.

[PandawdyBob]

Guess I should have told you that a lot of the paintings on my gallery have been donated. But I do have instructional materials on the site as well.

[rodneykingstrikesbck]

I really like Autumn mountain but I see it has been sold.  Send me a message about Cool of the Day and Mountain Hideout if you could.

[lunitaa123]

thanks for the reply, you cleared a few things up for me..

[PandawdyBob]

Send me a private message if you need anymore help.

[lunitaa123]

thank you for your videos. I hjave a question...why the linseed oil? what does it do? would you put it on top of gesso? are a couple coats of white acryllic as good as gesso? should have said questions??? thanks

[PandawdyBob]

In wet on wet painting, we almost always start with a slick and tacky surface. In this case I used linseed oil to prepare the canvas, but other times I will use Alexander's Magic White. Magic White is better when a lot of color mixing is necessary. A white acrylic paint is pretty well the same as gesso, but it's better to buy a canvas that is already double primed with gesso.

[PandawdyBob]

The reason I used linseed oil in this painting is because I wanted very bright clouds. Titanium white and Magic White are both opaque colors, but pthalo blue, which I used to paint the sky, is a mostly transparent color. Unless of course, you preped your canvas with Magic White. Then the blue would mix with the white and become opaque. In this case, white clouds appear much, much brighter against a transparent color.

[thecow4545]

Thank you very much for this video- I do a lot of work with spray paint and have yet to find a good cloud technique. I think I might mix it up a little and try this out with some paintbrushes. Thank you again!

[Jdawg0492]

Nevermind, I found the official site for it, I'm an idiot.

[Jdawg0492]

Hey I'm new to painting and have a quistion, did you Gesso the painting or not? By the way nice painting.

[PandawdyBob]

The canvas is double primed with a white acrylic. But that's how it comes from the factory. The only thing I did to prepare the canvas was to put a very thin coat of linseed oil on it. Just enough to make the canvas appear barely damp. I scrubbed it in with a disposable foam brush. This eases the application of paint, and since I painted the sky with a semi transparent color, the very opaque titanium white clouds show up great.

[Jdawg0492]

Thank you, so I take it that the Linseed oil is similair to what Bob Ross uses to do Wet on wet.

[PandawdyBob]

Bob Ross's liquid white is directly inspired by Magic White, created by Bill Alexander. Linseed oil is clear and much thinner than Magic White or liquid white, but it does serve the same purpose. There are some Bob Ross paintings where the artist will paint the canvas black with gesso and then cover it with what the Bob Ross company calls liquid clear. Linseed oil can be used instead, is much cheaper and in my opinion works a bit better. (to be continued)...

[PandawdyBob]

The problem with liquid clear is that it will thicken and gum up with age. This will only cause problems for you. The whole trick to making a clear medium work is applying it AS THIN AS POSSIBLE. This is extremely difficult to do after liquid clear has thickened. Imagine trying to spread pancake syrup all over your canvas. There is one downside to linseed oil. There is a chance that it can yellow with age. However, I have heard that placing your painting in sunlight (to be continued)...

[PandawdyBob]

... will get rid of any yellowing. I have a friend out in California that has been using Walnut Alkyd Medium for some time now and he has no problems with yellowing. I have also had no problems with yellowing, but my oldest paintings are maybe 10 to 15 years old. So perhaps they haven't had time to yellow? In any case, pick up some linseed oil and try it out. :D

[Jdawg0492]

Thank You for the response I really apreciate it :), I have been wanting to try wet on wet, and do you know any good stores or online sites to where I can get Alexander Art products?

[PandawdyBob]

I will send you a message with some good information.

[xilovefrogsx]

the ending picture was absolutely amazing

you are so talented

im so jealous!

but that helped a lot

thank you

[saifrizwan]

Thanks a lot for this demonstration! It was extremely helpful.

[Godl1keNL]

did you first let the blue dry up or just went right over it?

[PandawdyBob]

With wet on wet, you don't have to wait for layers to dry. In this video, I used Alexander's Magic Clear medium to prep sky area of the canvas. Then I painted in the sky. The only thing the clear medium is really good for is easing the application of paint. Otherwise you'd be struggling to blend and move colors on the canvas. Note that beginners always have problems with painting clouds. So don't be surprised if you have to practice a bit before you get it right.

[artisttrev]

Nice work, thanks for sharing,

Artistrev

[dinasaur2]

This is a great demonstration -

[paulgad]

Nice Painting. I thought I recognized the music in the packround as from Silence of the lambs. I am right I guess because I saw your messages. You are good at this and have a relaxing way about you that Bob Ross had. Good Teacher too.

[PandawdyBob]

Thanks for the compliments. I never trained in Bob Ross's method but I did train in Bill Alexander's method, which is very similar.

[vincero2006]

there is no bob ross method.

he learned from bill alexander.

the real Master.

[PandawdyBob]

It is true that Bill Alexander is the founder of the modern day wet on wet techniques that so many of todays artists use. Myself included.

[jkerrigan1990]

Very nice. You have David Gilmour playing in the background! Brilliant choice of music!

[eggboy1]

Is that a haunted brush? I can't see a hand.

[PandawdyBob]

Many of the small brushes like the badger filbert that I was using in the video, and the floral brushes that Alexander Art sells have very long handles. It makes the brushes easier to handle.

[wcbombers21]

lolz love that your listing to goodbye horses! dident really get your demo, i thought wet into wet was that you have to keep adding water almost like water color painting...or was the under painting still wet?? i need help!

[PandawdyBob]

There may be methods that are known as "wet on wet" that are used with watercolors, but the method I'm using is with a specific brand of oil paints. The whole canvas is prepared with a medium and painting is completed in a matter of hours (sometimes minutes). Check the link in the description of the video.

[allisonprior]

Do you think they would make nice waves in the ocean.

[PandawdyBob]

The technique for creating foam on waves is somewhat similar to this.

[bullerwell]

this is very cool, awsome job.

[ChaoticChrist]

Goodbye Horses, I also listen to this while I paint. Although my style of painting is extreamly different. Nice clouds!

[PandawdyBob]

It's certainly different. I am a fan of the Hannibal Lector series of movies, so I listen to songs from Manhunter (Strong As I Am), Silence Of The Lambs, and Hannibal. I didn't care too much for Red Dragon. Manhunter was better.

[retta2587]

Awesome, what colors did you use to paint the sky? Were the clouds titanium white? I love your work and refer to your tutorials a lot...they really help an art student! THANKS!

[PandawdyBob]

The sky is just pthalo blue. You'll notice the color "beads" a little when you use clear medium. So I use this method when I'm going to cover a lot of the sky with clouds. The clouds are titanium white with a touch of warm color such as permanent red, permanent rose or aliziran crimson.

[AretyRocks]

Nice work Chad.this will help many people

 Jack

[PandawdyBob]

Thanks Jack.

[PandawdyBob]

Actually if you don't have Alexander or Bob Ross clear medium, you can use walnut or linseed oil. The trick is to apply it very, very thin. I don't recommend applying i with a brush unless you are 100% certian the brush contains no left overs from cleaning (thinner, baby oil or whatever you clean with). Then paint the sky as usual. Your clouds will appear much brighter than if you used a white medium.

[bobross95]

Thanks for showing a new way of painting clouds Chad. I've not tried with a filbert brush yet!

Is that Mr Gilmour I can hear in the background?

[PandawdyBob]

Try the clean medium sometime. You can use Bob Ross clear medium if that's what you have. You'll be suprised by the results.

[PandawdyBob]

Wow.. sorry about the lightness of the video towards the end.